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Title: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2017, 07:21:40 PM
I'm starting this thread to document what will be a fun project I'll be working on little by little over time.
I found this battered and beat kettle earlier this spring and I'm gonna start getting into it this offseason.
Stay tuned for updates and specific details about the condition as the rehab moves along to get this one back into the lineup.

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: jkolantern on November 17, 2017, 07:27:48 PM
Whoa, another one!  Awesome!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: varekai on November 17, 2017, 07:53:17 PM
WHY, for the love of god, would anyone paint a black grill yellow??  We all know it wont stick.....LOL  Cant wait to see the final product!!!  Gonna be a beaut!!! a sunny beaut!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Troy on November 17, 2017, 09:36:47 PM
Looks like they did a good job of curing the paint this time too, have fun!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: greenweb on November 17, 2017, 10:18:05 PM
It will be a nice project. Good luck with it.

Wondering if paint thinner with 000 steel wool pad will work on hard to reach areas to get the paint off.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: hawgheaven on November 18, 2017, 02:30:31 AM
Now THERE is a project! Good luck and keep us posted!!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: WNC on November 18, 2017, 04:36:51 AM
Awesome!
Hopefully it's most of the porcelain is intact under all that paint!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Craig on November 18, 2017, 04:48:47 AM
Awesome find, Jeff! This tells me that there has to be dozens more of these yellows hiding under black paint. You have to wonder, was it embarrassing to own a yellow grill at one time?


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Title: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Travis on November 18, 2017, 06:37:33 AM
Always wondered why someone would paint it black. Even if you are not a Weber but like the rest of us, why black?

Looking forward to seeing your progress, Jeff.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Larry on November 18, 2017, 08:16:25 AM
Grate find! If that grill is yellow underneath all that paint, that would be awesome.
I also look forward to see your progress.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: MacEggs on November 18, 2017, 08:36:24 AM

Cool find, Jeff!  Look forward to your "offseason" progress …  ;)

You may recall the painted yellow from member, @tattooedant ??  Looks like his pics are not showing up …  >:( :-\

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/yellow-painted-green-restore-part-4-final/


Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: CatskillSmoker on November 18, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
Grate find. Congratulations.
I think someone else on here found a yellow just like this.
Good luck with it and take your time.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Mike in Roseville on November 18, 2017, 09:24:25 AM

Always wondered why someone would paint it black. Even if you are not a Weber but like the rest of us, why black?



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Because a can of black BBQ paint is cheaper than a new grill. And the only high temp color that used to be available from a rattle can was black.



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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 18, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
So a few more details to show before I get started.
As you can see, the lid has a pretty good sized chip in the lid.
Next, all the bottom vent dampers are gone, so what the former owners did was drill a hole in the bottom of the bowl, install the hardware for a One Touch sweeper system (without the sweeps), place the original ash pan inside the base of the bowl, drill a hole in the center to pass the One Touch hardware through to secure the pan, and lastly...drill holes through the pan - through the original vent holes to allow it to breath.  Genius!  Now there is a hole in the base of the bowl, and holes in the original ash pan.
I've also notice some chipping and crazing in areas of the bowl.  Lastly, the former owner sprayed the legs black to match the kettle...naturally!! 
Half of the top handle remains...but that's not a big deal of course.
My goal is to get this kettle to a grill fella, and back into the cooking fleet.

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Title: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Craig on November 18, 2017, 01:40:19 PM
Whoa! That’s a new one for me! One touch installed to secure the ashpan..... makes for one interesting Weber Grill System! As John Picker says “that’s what we gets! Yup Yup!! WHAAAAAT!??”

Looking forward to this coming back to life, Jeff!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Darko on November 18, 2017, 01:43:47 PM
Gotta admit; that is creative!!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: MacEggs on November 18, 2017, 02:20:37 PM
the former owners did was drill a hole in the bottom of the bowl, install the hardware for a One Touch sweeper system (without the sweeps), place the original ash pan inside the base of the bowl, drill a hole in the center to pass the One Touch hardware through to secure the pan, and lastly...drill holes through the pan - through the original vent holes to allow it to breath.  Genius!

Gotta admit …. Mod Month material!!

Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 18, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
Ok, so put a little time in today.  This black paint is on pretty good.  Steel wool was painfully slow, paint thinner didn't cut it, but I was slow and very careful with a razor.  Followed that up with steel wool and Dawn to finish small spots and shine it.  Not too bad so far...but there are bad areas missing porcelain coming on the other half.  Too be continued...

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: kettlebb on November 18, 2017, 02:54:55 PM
Document the hours on this please. Would love to know how much time goes into this one. That lid looks like it’s a good shape!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 18, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
I've spent an hour on it to this point.  I'll document my time into it from here on out.
@kettlebb.  Notice the big chip on the other side of the lid that will be coming to light soon.  Sad.  It looks OK aside from that.

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 18, 2017, 06:41:01 PM
This is gonna be the poster child for Rescues.

Ya'll might consider it a front page feature when done.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: WNC on November 19, 2017, 04:45:32 AM
Oh my god! That vent/ash pan system is genius!
I've been trying to figure out a system for converting three wheelers to one touch for a while, this is great.
It doesn't seem like it would handle the ash, which is really the biggest glory of the one touch system, but damn, the original owner was really on to something.
This is gonna be a great thread!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 19, 2017, 06:11:36 AM
That one touch ash pan idea is very creative.  Yellow looks nice so far. Are you going to use yellow paint on the large chip?


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 19, 2017, 06:22:46 AM
@hoosierkettle.  I don't think I'm going to do anything with the chips.   Clean them up best I can, maybe hit me with be some high temp black.   We'll see.  If I painted it with yellow, it wouldn't hold up to the heat over time, and the yellow touched areas wouldn't match with the color change either.  The chipped areas will be for the grill's new owner to decide!  :)

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: greenweb on November 19, 2017, 07:03:50 AM
Great job so far! cleaned up nicely. Looking forward to the total transformation.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hofy on November 19, 2017, 01:18:19 PM
As they say, "That will buff right out"!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: RottiGuy on November 19, 2017, 01:50:48 PM
Lookin good!!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Darko on November 19, 2017, 04:16:02 PM
Looking good so far.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 19, 2017, 06:19:14 PM
Whoa! That’s a new one for me! One touch installed to secure the ashpan..... makes for one interesting Weber Grill System! As John Picker says “that’s what we gets! Yup Yup!! WHAAAAAT!??”

Looking forward to this coming back to life, Jeff!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on November 19, 2017, 06:45:12 PM
Sweet... looks to be a rewarding challenge. Looking forward to watching the restore on this.

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Rub on November 19, 2017, 07:56:07 PM
Cool project bud. I know you’re the man for the job.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: charred on November 20, 2017, 05:20:55 PM
The beauty revealed...who the eff would paint a yellow black? Lol.

(The same idiot who installed the ash pan.)
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on November 21, 2017, 08:21:41 AM
Im looking forward to seeing you cooking on it.

Its gota be alot of work scraping all that paint off.

Have you considered using paint stripper or lacquer thinner to soften it, but not necessarily remove the paint?
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2017, 08:29:28 AM
Tried paint thinner...that didn't do much.  Is lacquer thinner more effective?  Paint stripper can be sloppy...I'm patient to take my time with other methods if need be.  Gonna be putting a little time into it the next couple days
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on November 21, 2017, 08:52:00 AM
Lacquer thinner is very stong...gloves, glasses and lots of fresh air strong.

Try wetting a rag with it and let it sit on the paint for a few. If it evaporates too quick cover the rag with plastic wrap.

 
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: PotsieWeber on November 21, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
@Jeff
I'll take a look in my basement.  I think I still have some stuff I used to easily strip off some spray paint from where someone painted over one of those old porcelain black on yellow Chicago street signs.

It came in a trigger spray bottle for easy application and the paint came off VERY easily & didn't have nasty fumes.  It might work for your high heat paint on porcelain .  If I don't still have a bottle, I'm pretty certain I have a bottle of something else by the same manufacturer, so I can figure it out.  I think I got it at Menards, but have seen it elsewhere too.  In a worse case scenario, I'll peruse Menard's website and can probably figure it out from there. 

When I sprayed it on, I basically put a cloth or maybe paper towels over it & let that get damp too to hold the dampness onto the paint for a bit.  It basically bubbled up & I used a plastic scraper to get it off very easily. 


Tried paint thinner...that didn't do much.  Is lacquer thinner more effective?  Paint stripper can be sloppy...I'm patient to take my time with other methods if need be.  Gonna be putting a little time into it the next couple days
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: PotsieWeber on November 21, 2017, 10:02:04 AM
@Jeff,

I just looked online and it was Motsenbockers Lift Off Graffiti Paint Remover. 
See https://www.menards.com/main/paint-stain-cleaners/paint-preparation-cleaners/motsenbockers-reg-lift-off-reg-graffiti-paint-remover-22-oz/p-1444444131720-c-19344.htm?tid=-4377318510962617164&ipos=4

I'm pretty certain I've seen it at either Lowes or Home Depot too. 

It also comes in a smaller container for less than $5 at Menards. 

As I said, I don't know if it works as good for high heat paint, but it stripped off spray paint over porcelain VERY, VERY, VERY easily and wasn't nasty smelling like some other things. 

I might also have a suggestion to EASILY clean the aluminum legs (some stuff I bought at NAPA, also in a spray bottle) after trying to figure out how to clean a nasty looking 10 ft aluminum ladder I got for a song.  (Let me know if you want the name of the stuff.  I'll probably try it out on an aluminum leg I have here & then post the results in another thread). 

Good luck. 
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2017, 10:05:12 AM
Thanks "Hal"  @PotsieWeber I'll look into it
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: PotsieWeber on November 21, 2017, 10:12:08 AM
If you try it & it works on the high heat paint, let us know. 

For what it is worth, it didn't harm the nice shiny finish on the porcelain 1950's street sign that I used it on.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 29, 2017, 04:51:23 PM
So I took a little time off working on this kettle for the Thanksgiving weekend.   I got back into it tonight for a little bit. 
@potsieweber.  Hey Hal, tried that graffiti remover.  It didn't do as well as I hoped.  This black paint is really stubborn and has many layers.  Someone really hated the yellow!!  It helped to take off each layer of black paint, but not the immediate one underneath.  As I got down into the last layers of black, the orange peel texture was another issue.  All the black paint wanted to stay in the "low spots".  This is when I used the graffiti remover, along with steel wool to remove the final remnants of the black.
 
@hellfiregrill.  I think I'm gonna give your idea of lacquer thinner a try on the bowl.  The lid took longer than I wanted.
I put another hour into the second half of the lid for a total of 2 hours.  It's too bad about the  large porcelain chip in the lid, but overall it's not too bad.  There will be a different handle in this lids future. 
Also removed was the ridiculous One Touch contraption along with the ruined original ash pan inside the bowl that was drilled out so the kettle could breathe.  I ordered some replacement bowl dampers to replace all 3 that were missing.  Cost of dampers...14.00.

Here are some photos of the updated progress

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: mhiszem on November 29, 2017, 05:06:34 PM
Wow that cleaned up really well! Can’t wait to see the finished product. Great job!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: weldboy on November 29, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
Great job, cleaning up well


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: kettlebb on November 29, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
That lid looks sweet Jeff!  You mention that porcelain chip but it’s not bad at all. Great effort so far!  True RRR going on here.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Firemunkee on November 29, 2017, 07:22:18 PM
What an amazing journey! Can't wait to see the finished product

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 29, 2017, 07:22:32 PM
That lid looks sweet Jeff!  You mention that porcelain chip but it’s not bad at all. Great effort so far!  True RRR going on here.


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Oh it's pretty bad! Lol.  But this will be a fun cooker when it's all done!

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Grillagin on November 29, 2017, 08:20:03 PM
The lid looks better than I thought it would.  Nice job, so far!  It looks like the bowl will reveal some issues.  Interesting project.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Scott Zee on November 30, 2017, 04:13:37 AM
Really looking good Jeff. Can't wait to see the finished product.  It'll be cool to see her fired up and blushing again.

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: tmartin on November 30, 2017, 04:18:22 AM
That's amazing.  Even with the large chip it shows how strong the porcelain really is.  Never would have guessed it would look as good as it does under all that paint.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 30, 2017, 04:21:49 AM
It looks like the bowl will reveal some issues. 

Yeah...it will.  That's unfortunate.  But it will be back on its feet and in a cooking fleet.  :)
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on November 30, 2017, 05:19:37 AM
Lookin good Jeff!

Personally I like the Rust, Rot & Retrofit but that paints gotta go....

Im anxious to see whats under the paint around the sockets and in the crazy zone.

That ash pan will make a good wall hanger in your garage.

Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on November 30, 2017, 05:53:10 AM
 Wow Jeff, that thing is looking amazing.  I'm not totally surprised, but I would like to know what paint the previous owner used to make it black.  We all tell people "DO NOT PAINT YOUR KETTLE, IT WILL NOT LAST", but it looks like someone out there figured it out!  I can't wait to see what it looks like when it's done!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on November 30, 2017, 05:59:39 AM
Wow Jeff, that thing is looking amazing.  I'm not totally surprised, but I would like to know what paint the previous owner used to make it black.  We all tell people "DO NOT PAINT YOUR KETTLE, IT WILL NOT LAST", but it looks like someone out there figured it out!  I can't wait to see what it looks like when it's done!
Don't know what paint it was. It's a flat black with many layers.  If you look at the original photo before I started l, it was thin in spots around the top of the lid. Also, the orange peel texture is holding the paint pretty good too.  It's not completely smooth
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Neil_VT00 on November 30, 2017, 09:49:41 AM
Great job so far Jeff.

I wonder if the paint is Stove Paint.  It's usually flat black. My dad painted some rust spots on my old redhead a long time ago and that stuff was a PITA to get off.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Bubblehead on November 30, 2017, 11:28:54 AM
That's looking pretty swell! 
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: KevinP on December 01, 2017, 01:44:13 PM
Looking great so far Jeff.  A real labor of love!!  Good luck with the rest


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Lowbrass on December 01, 2017, 03:08:44 PM
Great job!  My yellow (my first colored grill and the one that started it all for me) was found at the curb on trash night - painted black.  I initially grabbed it because of the 3 daisy wheels on the bowl - my only other experience with Webers at the time was my WSM.  I knew if I could control temps with the three wheels on the WSM, I could do the same on a kettle.  I noticed a little yellow underneath the black but didn’t know what I had until probably a year later when @Bob BQ saw it and tried trading me a couple of grills for it.  That’s when I joined the club and it is history from there!  Here is my restore: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/yellow-kettle-restore-newbie-problems-(pic-heavy)/


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 01, 2017, 06:46:27 PM
Great job!  My yellow (my first colored grill and the one that started it all for me) was found at the curb on trash night - painted black.  I initially grabbed it because of the 3 daisy wheels on the bowl - my only other experience with Webers at the time was my WSM.  I knew if I could control temps with the three wheels on the WSM, I could do the same on a kettle.  I noticed a little yellow underneath the black but didn’t know what I had until probably a year later when @Bob BQ saw it and tried trading me a couple of grills for it.  That’s when I joined the club and it is history from there!  Here is my restore: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/yellow-kettle-restore-newbie-problems-(pic-heavy)/


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Thanks for posting this @lowbrass.  Yours was in much better shape the one I found.

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: PotsieWeber on December 02, 2017, 08:06:36 PM
Sorry to hear the graffiti remover didn't work out as well as we both hoped, but it is nice to see you reviving this.  It's looking nice. 
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 20, 2017, 05:48:53 PM
 Been a little while since I updated this and had time to work on it.
So after spending about an hour and a half on the bowl, I uncovered what I knew what be some fairly significant heat damage.   It was more than I could see under the black paint. This bowl is probably one of the more extreme examples of overheating and overall abuse.  One of the main positive things is that the leg sockets are very strong. 
I did try lacquer thinner...and it was helpful with removing the paint, but the fumes were too strong and in my garage and with a natural gas heater in there, I didn't want to risk any type of ignition.  With all the chips and crazing, the cleanup is extremely challenging.  Here are some pics of today's progress.
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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: kettlebb on December 20, 2017, 05:57:47 PM
That pattern does look kind of cool.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on December 20, 2017, 06:51:20 PM
GEEEEEZZZZZZ Thats pretty CRAZY!

 
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 20, 2017, 07:19:50 PM
Cleaned legs and wheels.  Hope this isn't gonna be like putting lipstick on a pig!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/8b782c783d593ba67a8da4d4f1937008.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/857a74b34dc0d9ac74d7e73d5d894572.jpg)

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: mhiszem on December 21, 2017, 04:19:50 AM
Not a chance! Every yellow has its own character. Great job and patience cleaning it.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: jeffrackmo on December 21, 2017, 04:36:26 AM
Character I say... Character!!!

Revival is coming!!!  Can't wait to see her all put back together and blushing!!!

Nice work @Jeff!! 

Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Travis on December 21, 2017, 06:35:46 AM
Looking good bud. Major props for the time, effort and patience with the restore.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Neil_VT00 on December 21, 2017, 06:38:03 AM
That's coming along great. Are you keeping track of the hours you have in it?

Wonder if the wheels are original... they're in way too nice shape compared to the grill.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 21, 2017, 12:13:14 PM
Total hours into the grill are 3.5.  Wheels appear to be original.  This is mostly likely one of the last years of the yellow kettles produced with this style wheel. 
They white walls were fairly dirty, but after clean-up, turned out like new.  Very little dry rot if any on the white walls

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 21, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Quick update.  2 more hours on the bowl.
Total 5.5.
Advisory...for those that are squeemish or easily horrified, please turn away and do not scroll down.
For the rest of you...don't worry.  I haven't "detailed" the bowl yet.  It'll all buff out...

More to come soon

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: johnny 2 shack on December 21, 2017, 04:03:30 PM
that's going to be one cool kettle when done !
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 21, 2017, 04:05:49 PM
I promise,  this grill will be a nice cooker.

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Rub on December 21, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Man you've got more patience than I do. That's a true RRR.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 27, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
Hey guys,  another update.  Another 1.5 hours into it.  Cleaned the inside of the bowl, along with some additional hardcore cleaning on the rust on the bowl exterior.  I'm starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.  I've showing some before and after pics...hopefully you can see a little difference on the exterior.
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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 27, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
I'm at 7 total hours invested

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: jkolantern on December 27, 2017, 03:55:26 PM
Looking good!  You can definitely see progress in those shots. Lots of patience evident as well.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: 56MPG on December 27, 2017, 04:05:27 PM
Nice work Jeff. A guy like me might have thrown in the towel by this point. It's guys like you that show us all what RESPECT really means.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Rub on December 27, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
Yeah buddy! Reminds me of the old saying, "...a face only a mother could love." You're giving it another lease on life, good onya!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Darko on December 27, 2017, 05:55:48 PM
That will be a great cooker Jeff. You've inspired me to get my '57 custom "cooking ready"
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jon on December 27, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
Jeff, that kettle is going to be a beauty, at least to those that appreciate kettles.

Darko, If you haven't cooked on that custom, it becomes the same as your Mom's Hummels.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: jcnaz on December 28, 2017, 04:11:33 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Craig on December 28, 2017, 07:50:51 AM
That’s coming along nicely! Jeff was it you that mentioned sometime back to use Ceramabrite to reduce/eliminate the rust/craze marks on the bowl? I did that with my lime 22 and it cleaned up the craze marks beautifully. Looking forward to the finished product.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on December 28, 2017, 07:53:17 AM
Yes, that's what I used in those last before n after pics.  Ceramabryte and steel wool

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: PotsieWeber on December 28, 2017, 09:05:20 AM
I think it was worth the effort.  But, I was only watching the thread.  That said, seeing how it looks in the end (compared to the beginning) is part of the fun, so the effort isn't wasted. 

What are you looking to trade for her?  :D
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Rub on December 28, 2017, 10:48:50 AM
Yes, that's what I used in those last before n after pics.  Ceramabryte and steel wool

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Alright just ordered Cerama Bryte, thanks  8)
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 03:31:59 PM
ok guys...time for an update.  Been about 2 weeks since the last.

When I left off...I had finished cleaning up the rust stains as good as I could by using Cerama Bryte and steel wool.  I did make the bowl appear cleaner.
So here is where I was at then.  I wanted to make this grill visually better, but not do a complete touchup with yellow paint.  My goals isn't to make this grill something it really isn't.  Let's face it.  This grill was "beat'.  What I wanted to was make the chips on the bowl less horrifying...but still protect the bare areas from getting worse.  I chose to spray all the chipped areas with a 2000 degree header primer.   Sort of a gray color.  I think the result is visually...easier to look at, and less eye catching than the black chips against the yellow finish, and hopefully protected.

Next...plug the hole from the homemade, home drilled OT hardware addition.  I used some stainless hardware and washers, along with a stainless acorn nut.  Fancy?  No, but functional and problem solved.
Next...add 3 daisy wheels from my parts stash.  Looking better yet. 
Add polished legs, power washed original wheels, and economy triangle (more parts stash).  The original triangle was too far gone and rusted to justify the time and effort for what the end result would be.  For those of you that have really got into a bad triangle...you know all about this.
2 more hours time invested for a total of 9.0
 
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 03:37:03 PM
More pics(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/26994f59a74d9c3f3346d82581cc495a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/8d7935f2d7926150eb0daa0bc208e92f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/e36ef36fbfa2987c8fb48debaccb726d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/1425c0ce2e69f8e2510921add2044680.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/704b2b4d034af14bc82b72606e137ff5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/50379270f1b8b5812410172632d2eab8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 03:56:09 PM
Last one guys.
First...full disclosure.  The grill had some rim rash that was typical of a grill that had been abused.  I hit the chips with the same 2000 degree primer.  I followed that up with a high temp yellow.  The match was pretty good. As I said, I didn't want to hide what this grill really is, so the rim is the only "touched up" area with yellow.  I figured the worst that can happen is eventually the original chips start to show back up.  But time will tell.
Finished by cleaning up the top vent, and adding one of Brian's awesome handles.  I think the grill has come a along way, and turned out a little better than I thought.
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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: 56MPG on January 08, 2018, 03:57:42 PM
This needs to be a front page story when you have time @Jeff  I applaud your vision, patience and elbow grease. Not sure I've seen a more thorough description of a Restore than this. Not all museum pieces are NIB. This beauty belongs in the same lineup as any of the amazing kettles in your collection.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 04:05:56 PM
Before and after(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/86698b91f7fc47924d4f033225e531d1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/236ecc01baa2cb1058930db34b7dba1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/c408dc1dff2bcd20ead334e7f2d11814.jpg)

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: mhiszem on January 08, 2018, 04:15:22 PM

This needs to be a front page story when you have time @Jeff  I applaud your vision, patience and elbow grease. Not sure I've seen a more thorough description of a Restore than this. Not all museum pieces are NIB. This beauty belongs in the same lineup as any of the amazing kettles in your collection.

I agree. That is an amazing restore!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: cumminfourya on January 08, 2018, 04:17:28 PM
Hell of a nice job. Great work!!!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Shoestringshop on January 08, 2018, 04:24:08 PM
Great job! Jeff it a very nice grill. Great job again.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
And the next one on deck...could it be in worse condition?  Quite possibly...to be continued.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/08239ebbf41d77ded65c2fc64b91bc34.jpg)

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: WNC on January 08, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
Bravo good sir, bravo! [emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122]
This has been fun to watch, real deal RRR right here!
What's next? Cooker, looker?


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 08, 2018, 04:36:27 PM
Bravo good sir, bravo! [emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122]
This has been fun to watch, real deal RRR right here!
What's next? Cooker, looker?


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See above @WNC

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: kettlebb on January 08, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
Very inspiring Jeff. Thanks for sharing all that went into this RRR.

Proof. Even if you find something beat to hell it can still stand and cook in all its glory.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: WNC on January 08, 2018, 06:22:02 PM

Bravo good sir, bravo! [emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122]
This has been fun to watch, real deal RRR right here!
What's next? Cooker, looker?


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See above @WNC

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Ahhh, It'd been a while since I'd read the beginning of the thread [emoji3]


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Darko on January 08, 2018, 07:07:13 PM
I Can't wait to see the next one.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Firemunkee on January 08, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Wow, what a journey. Such reward!!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Rub on January 08, 2018, 07:53:38 PM
Fantastic save and restore Jeff. Your hard work paid off.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on January 08, 2018, 08:14:53 PM
Yes, that's what I used in those last before n after pics.  Ceramabryte and steel wool

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Alright just ordered Cerama Bryte, thanks  8)
Same

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hansiurpils on January 08, 2018, 08:26:01 PM
Wow, what a great restore and an awesome work... Congrats..


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hofy on January 08, 2018, 09:23:34 PM
You have been well rewarded for your RRR effort.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Lowbrass on January 08, 2018, 10:05:01 PM

Last one guys.
First...full disclosure.  The grill had some rim rash that was typical of a grill that had been abused.  I hit the chips with the same 2000 degree primer.  I followed that up with a high temp yellow.  The match was pretty good.

Jeff what brand of high heat spray paint did you use?


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Bertl on January 08, 2018, 10:57:28 PM
What have you done? The Gourmet turned into a princess, awesome job Jeff!
Looking forward to the Wood Dale project...

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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jan M. on January 09, 2018, 06:34:13 AM
What an amazing story!
Good job!
Impressive recovery of a beauty!


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: hawgheaven on January 09, 2018, 09:01:44 AM
I am totally impressed! What a recovery!
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Neil_VT00 on January 09, 2018, 11:04:12 AM
Amazing work Jeff! I'm not sure that I would have to patients to take on such a task.

Be careful with  leaving it in primer. I'm far from a painter, but my understanding is that primer will absorb moister (hence making paint adhere) and could cause additional rust.  If it's going to live inside you're probable fine, but it might be problematic for an outdoor grill.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Jeff on January 09, 2018, 11:10:23 AM
Amazing work Jeff! I'm not sure that I would have to patients to take on such a task.

Be careful with  leaving it in primer. I'm far from a painter, but my understanding is that primer will absorb moister (hence making paint adhere) and could cause additional rust.  If it's going to live inside you're probable fine, but it might be problematic for an outdoor grill.

Now that you mention it, I've heard that before.  Giving me ideas, maybe it needs to have a high temp yellow to maintain the bowl long term.  Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Travis on January 09, 2018, 11:14:38 AM
Awesome job man. True meaning of rrr. And love the follow along story with it.


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Title: Re: Hidden Beauty
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on January 09, 2018, 07:16:24 PM
  Giving me ideas, maybe it needs to have a high temp yellow to maintain the bowl long term.  Thanks for the tip.

I thought it looked pretty sharp yellow & crazy black.

Are the bones sticking out of your fingers yet?