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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: Rub on November 06, 2017, 10:05:12 AM
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Looking for opinions...
When I first saw a picture of this kettle I fell in love. I know it's not "authentic" but I don't care. I love my country and would love to have a similar red, white, and blue kettle for myself.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/06/IMG_4313.jpg)
I have a friend in the powdercoat business who will do it for me. I likely won't cook on it for fear of discoloration, until we come up with an insulation fix for the bowl. He says the lid should be fine. It will primarily be a showpiece. So I found an opened but still boxed H/1986 One Touch and I bought it. I was thinking it would be a perfect grill for the project: wood handles, no taco, no dings, perfect triangle, legs, and wheels. Is there any reason why I shouldn't use it for this project? The year is not special to me, nor is the box. But it might be to someone? I'd hate to sacrifice something that is special in it's own right. Opinions on using this H code? Thanks.
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I was a little confused on the questioning, No means use the kettle, Yes means don't do it. Right?
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Correct.
Should the kettle be kept as a NIB black kettle?
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I'm confused also. Are you looking for someone to justify doing the flag design? Or justify doing it on that particular kettle? Either way its your choice!
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That looks awesome
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Go for it, That will be cool looking
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I'm confused also. Are you looking for someone to justify doing the flag design? Or justify doing it on that particular kettle? Either way its your choice!
on the NIB kettle
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OK I reworded some of it, hopefully it helps.
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Go for it @Rub the way I see it it's not really doing the NIB kettle any disservice. Can't wait to see the end result.
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It’s your kettle dude...you don’t need our permission ;)
Cool project...can’t wait to see how it turns out.
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Personally, I wouldn’t use it as the base for this project. The porcelain, which is non-conductive, needs to be stripped for powder to “stick”. If your gonna do the ash bucket set-up, you’d be better off with a 2000’s kettle. Wouldn’t need to modify leg sockets, or ash assembly ring. Would just pop into place. There’d be no feelings of guilt if you used a good used kettle with porcelain issues. If the triangle is rusty, you could even go red, white, & blue on that as well.
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Personally, I wouldn’t use it as the base for this project. The porcelain, which is non-conductive, needs to be stripped for powder to “stick”. If your gonna do the ash bucket set-up, you’d be better off with a 2000’s kettle. Wouldn’t need to modify leg sockets, or ash assembly ring. Would just pop into place. There’d be no feelings of guilt if you used a good used kettle with porcelain issues. If the triangle is rusty, you could even go red, white, & blue on that as well.
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My buddy has researched it and says it can go on top of the porcelain.
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My buddy has researched it and says it can go on top of the porcelain.
[emoji848] Assume he’ll have to get to bare metal in one spot to add polarity to parts & really crank up the juice to get powder to adhere. Might not be a bad idea to get him a junk kettle for a trial run. At least then you can see how much heat/accidental pressure it takes before paint damage occurs. It should turn out pretty sweet, regardless of whether you can cook on it, or not.
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I was just checking out Coleman lantern sites and saw a post about some members getting enamel coatings re-done to restore a lamp...lamps come in colors.. I think I would look into that before powder coat. I mean .. if your going to put that much work into it you better do it good.
Also.. if it was me I would try to find a NOS late model grill to start with or even build it to a MT clone. You could even put some custom wood handles on it. Just my thought :-)
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I've been working on this for a while.
It does not appear powder coating will take the temps generated in a cooker.
NIB kettles would not be to difficult but I believe you need to remove the porcelain prior to adding new multi colored porcelain and placing in a kiln.
One issue with old kettles is the potential for grease to drip off and start a fire in the kiln.
I realize powder coaters typically pre bake parts prior to powdering to eliminate oil contamination so this may help but you don't want to pre bake in a kiln.
There is a porcelain refinisher who does Coleman lantern vents. Currently people have been waiting since early 2017 for him to complete their work. Coleman vents are tiny compared to a kettle.
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I had a 18” WSM powder coated at a former plant I worked at. All I did was clean all the crud out of it. No porcelain stripping. Paint still looks good, I’ve never cooked on it after powder coating though.
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Personally, I wouldn’t use it as the base for this project. The porcelain, which is non-conductive, needs to be stripped for powder to “stick”. If your gonna do the ash bucket set-up, you’d be better off with a 2000’s kettle. Wouldn’t need to modify leg sockets, or ash assembly ring. Would just pop into place. There’d be no feelings of guilt if you used a good used kettle with porcelain issues. If the triangle is rusty, you could even go red, white, & blue on that as well.
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My buddy has researched it and says it can go on top of the porcelain.
Your buddy is correct. Powder coating can't be directly applied to porcelain but he sand blast it. I had a 14" WSM done.
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That may be the smoothest, glossiest, powder coated piece of metal I have ever seen.
If your associate can do that have at it.
My guess is that if you used a charcoal basket(s) and kept the coals off the sides you could cook on a kettle that was high temp powder coated with decent longevity.
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The powder coat on my rotisserie ring is rated for 500 degrees.
Why not consider cerakote?
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The powder coat on my rotisserie ring is rated for 500 degrees.
Why not consider cerakote?
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Not sure it comes in red, white and blue.
@bigredmf I think that one is just regular paint.
I've been working on this for a while.
It does not appear powder coating will take the temps generated in a cooker.
NIB kettles would not be to difficult but I believe you need to remove the porcelain prior to adding new multi colored porcelain and placing in a kiln.
One issue with old kettles is the potential for grease to drip off and start a fire in the kiln.
I realize powder coaters typically pre bake parts prior to powdering to eliminate oil contamination so this may help but you don't want to pre bake in a kiln.
There is a porcelain refinisher who does Coleman lantern vents. Currently people have been waiting since early 2017 for him to complete their work. Coleman vents are tiny compared to a kettle.
Red
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He powder coats his drum smokers that he sells. He says it's good up to 500. He has already tested powder coating on top of porcelain.
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Don't cook on it; heat will almost certainly tar the finish. Why not contact a sign or vehicle wrapper, and have it wrapped?
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The powder coat on my rotisserie ring is rated for 500 degrees.
Why not consider cerakote?
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Not sure it comes in red, white and blue.
@bigredmf I think that one is just regular paint.
I've been working on this for a while.
It does not appear powder coating will take the temps generated in a cooker.
NIB kettles would not be to difficult but I believe you need to remove the porcelain prior to adding new multi colored porcelain and placing in a kiln.
One issue with old kettles is the potential for grease to drip off and start a fire in the kiln.
I realize powder coaters typically pre bake parts prior to powdering to eliminate oil contamination so this may help but you don't want to pre bake in a kiln.
There is a porcelain refinisher who does Coleman lantern vents. Currently people have been waiting since early 2017 for him to complete their work. Coleman vents are tiny compared to a kettle.
Red
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He powder coats his drum smokers that he sells. He says it's good up to 500. He has already tested powder coating on top of porcelain.
Rub,
The high temp does come in Red, White, and Blue and appears it can be adjusted for a variety of shades as well.
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