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Grill Talk => Weber Mods, Tables and Customs => Topic started by: Troy on August 11, 2017, 09:33:50 AM
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I've long been a fan of the Cajun Bandit probe grommets, but the Thermoworks SMOKE probes don't fit...
I'm looking for options, and I'd like to document all of the options along the way.
I'd love to come up with a "best" option and support it with alternatives
What are the options?
@fedex - can you share your big red capped grommet info?
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I've long been a fan of the Cajun Bandit probe grommets, but the Thermoworks SMOKE probes don't fit...
I'm looking for options, and I'd like to document all of the options along the way.
I'd love to come up with a "best" option and support it with alternatives
What are the options?
@fedex - can you share your big red capped grommet info?
Yes, when I m done at the f ing HUMAN ZOO (DMV)
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I like the Weber grommet. I will say that if you're installing it on a kettle or WSM that didn't originally have it, it can be a bit daunting drilling a hole that large.
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I like the Weber grommet. I will say that if you're installing it on a kettle or WSM that didn't originally have it, it can be a bit daunting drilling a hole that large.
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Do they sell them? I liked the look/feel of the ones on the newer WSMs - that's the one right?
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I like the Weber grommet. I will say that if you're installing it on a kettle or WSM that didn't originally have it, it can be a bit daunting drilling a hole that large.
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Do they sell them? I liked the look/feel of the ones on the newer WSMs - that's the one right?
Yep.
https://www.amazon.com/Weber-Replacement-Grommet-Mountain-Cookers/dp/B0131L1P8A
I think you can get them at ereplacements, grillparts.com, and maybe Weber...? as well.
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Not a fan of the slot?
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They are available from e-replacements:
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/grommet-gray-smc-p-2127046.html (http://www.ereplacementparts.com/grommet-gray-smc-p-2127046.html)
Whit
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Not a fan of the slot?
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What? Not a fan of the slot! Choose your words wisely around here LOL
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has anyone ever put the weber gromet on a kettle?
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Troy heres an old pic, the only way to go(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/1b631f4173f5c1da86b724f53bcc3593.jpg)
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Not a fan of the slot?
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What? Not a fan of the slot! Choose your words wisely around here LOL
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Lol I AM a fan of the slot... but i guess nobody else around here is... lots of things i could say about a small slot vs. a big hole but now it would seem much too graphic (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/cf10534f19de21fe4eadac5de4cf29ff.jpg)
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To be clear, this thread is dual spirited.
I'm looking for multiple grommet solutions for myself.
But I plan to fully document every option for the good of the club.
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I am also really interested I have a smoke and love it. I almost always use it on my 26. It would be nice to have a usable slot for the probes. I will keep myself in tune to this one
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Here are some picts I posted on an earlier post today but apply here as well. Very simple on my newer MT kettle but I am not sure if this is the best way to go on a WSM. I also do not have a Smoke so not sure about those probes with this mod.
It is very easy after you get over the fear/pain of drilling into your Weber. I stole this from some BBQ forum and I am sure it is not unfamiliar to some of you. Best is these parts were inexpensive and all available at Menards last year. I wish I had thought to document part #'s and the process with some picts.
Lamp tube and nuts were part of a lighting repair kit. Maybe a kit with various tube lengths and then another with the nuts. The cap is galvanized and from the plumbing dept and matched the threads. I added a second to the ash bowl frame as a storage spot after I misplaced the cap a couple times. Pilot hole and step bit to cut the holes.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/fa363a8d4840e037451febcd358c02e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/31cdc72e5ae38ba0136b61cdfbc043a4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/cde9373ff2973442e9615371d6609df2.jpg)
After using this set up with my Maverick and iGrill I have had no problems fitting 3 probes through but the iGrill need to go first as the bend is a tight fit. Maybe a little shorter on the tube. Also I would recommend maybe a little higher and closer to the handle or behind the handle. I use a SNS set to the left side of the grill to keep the probes on the indirect side to the right. The threads on the inside are minimal so as not to cause clearance issues with the grate.
Love to hear what others do.
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I ordered a couple of these after seeing a you tube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqVqZZSnos&lc=z22sdxr4zqrktrxbn04t1aokgm4wqewnh0yovbwmj12ark0h00410.1501965847799092
I ordered here though, much cheaper than the you tube link.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G3R7NDU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This was the other option I kicked around. Is there a nylon bushing or insert that needs to be removed?
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I ordered a couple of these after seeing a you tube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqVqZZSnos&lc=z22sdxr4zqrktrxbn04t1aokgm4wqewnh0yovbwmj12ark0h00410.1501965847799092
I ordered here though, much cheaper than the you tube link.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G3R7NDU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks! I like the looks of those. Wouldn't the nylon inside melt?
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@Troy I installed the St Louis BBQ Probe Port on my Performer. There are 3 pieces and if you place the Smoke probe through the top rounded "cap" nut prior to screwing it on it will fit. The port costs $14.95 but you need to be able to drill a 27/32" hole. I used a 7/8" "step up" bit. I located the area I wanted the port cleaned it and put blue painters tape on the outside. First drilled a 1/4" started hole, then finished with the step up bit. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/68c874a3cb5bf5295685c36c96608f0b.jpg)
I unscrewed and raised the bowl, with a piece of wood, to make it easier to drill. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/0c9096c1a57f6085d54ce3cd219a73a3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/ae8f90625e1c6c2ad1825f52e6ee890f.jpg)
Then when cool remove the "cap" nut, pull out the Smoke probe(s) and replace.
It will easily accommodate 2 Smoke probes or 4 iGrill probes.
Hardest part was deciding where to place the port. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/212a399572bcc19d0f781f2ccca2c2cf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/593faccc6aa7b080f789ca395220f736.jpg)
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It's always better when you're cooking on a Weber!
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Thanks @Larry !!
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I would like to try putting my probe in the rear.
You know, so it doesn't show.
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I would like to try putting my probe in the rear.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/18/phrasing.png) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/Wie)
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Just be respectful and ask her first.
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Those types of grills are usually cookers not lookers. [emoji3]
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For me the best gromlet is ProQ Probe Eyelet:
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https://youtu.be/44G-mzT3Sk8
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I really don't want to drill holes, but those rubber those gromlets may be the solution for my Thermoworks Smoke/WSM.
The Guru Eyelets weren't even close!
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Where can you get those grommet here in the states?
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Bumping this thread as there is a lot of interest in probes lately. I don't use probes often but when I do, it would be nice to have a probe port. I considered the weber grommet for a kettle but not sure if it could take high heat cooks when grilling?
Maybe the pipe nipple is the way to go?
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Here is my solution...
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/27/IMG_54421.md.jpg)
On the left is the Climax 3/8 in. Bore Zinc-Plated Mild Steel Set Screw Collar. This I had to order from Home Depot. Cost is $1.01 with free shipping and store pick up.
On the right is a JMF 1/2in Compression Insert Part number 41291. This you can get at ACE Hardware. Cost $1.29. Even through it is listed as 1/2" the actual size is 3/8".
I installed this on my Cajun Bandit Stacker. I drilled a 3/8" hole with some great titanium non-walking drill bits made by Dewalt.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/27/IMG_54431.md.jpg)
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Sorry the one pic is fuzzy but you get the idea. Just be careful tightening the collar on the insert. If it is too tight is will crush the insert. I can get both probes in as long as they go in one at a time. I use a Maverick.
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Cool that's a good option .but looking for the barbecue Pro eyelets but can't get them in the states I can't find ?
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Just a bit anecdotal information here as I have just posted this at another forum so mostly cut/paste:
During the design phase, we tried a few different thermometer placements and types. No one could decide on what to put where, where to put the ports for probes, etc and all that. Then they started in about "Well we need it one size fit all and what if someone sticks a finger in there and gets burned?" Finally I gave up because, well.. There's a saying, "We don't all need to agree and we don't all need to have a vote, We just need a decision to be made." And those that were in that position, couldn't decide. The best I could do was the range on the bi-metal thermometer. Those are generally +/- 10% and certainly well enough for cooking. That final position (unless it's been moved) was where I drilled into the lid on my deck one afternoon.
Back then I used to have all kinds of thermometers and probes going in and out and monitoring temps. In testing we had hundred thermocouples glued to the WSM like a made scientist feeding into a DAQ (data acquisition) and spitting out temps over time into an Excel file.... A lot of it was information. Not entirely useful or helpful per se, but it was information.
I did an 18 hour shoulder on this past labor day. I started it at midnight, poured mop sauce on it for the first 2 hours or so but then went to bed. The temps dropped off about.. well I don't know when! I was asleep! But at 7:30am or so I stoked the coals and just let it sit around 200-250ish for the rest of the day, even going to the public pool with the family for a few hours. No temp monitoring of anything beyond the basic lid thermometer as I walked past it as I was doing other things.
Around 6pm I opened it up, got my $5 instant read Taylor which read 197.. Whelp, it's done.
Someone at the other forum asked about opening the lid and looking and the temps dropping. It's really not that big of deal. In the dead of winter when it's -9 and I open the door to take out the dog, my entire house doesn't drop in temp. The objects don't freeze -even those right next to the door. So certainly the internal temp of whatever you're cooking won't drop if you're checking things out for a moment.
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Here is my solution...
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Just be careful tightening the collar on the insert. If it is too tight is will crush the insert. I can get both probes in as long as they go in one at a time. I use a Maverick.
To avoid crushing the insert, put the appropriate size drill bit inside it before tightening the set screw.
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I use ProQ Gromlet for thrometer probes...cheaper and Easy to install
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The slot on the WSM works really good for me. It’s very easy and quick to take the probes in and out when foiling food or messing with the lower shelf. The only problem with the slot is it’s not air tight. Not a big deal for me except when shutting down the bbq. If you could take the Weber grommet material and redesign it where it can slide into the slot and make a straight slit into it where the probe wires can just lift in and out with a tight fit, I think that would be the best way to use probes on the WSM. It’ll look nice and keep the slot air tight like the weber grommet does. Just need someone to manufacture the grommet slot thing for the slot. It could also work on any size Kettle. I’ll buy one if anyone makes it.
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... If you could take the Weber grommet material and redesign it where it can slide into the slot and make a straight slit into it where the probe wires can just lift in and out with a tight fit...
Google some phrase like "slot silicone gasket" and you'll find door and window gaskets. Some may even be silicone. An Xacto knife might cut one down to do what you want.
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The proq eyelets are crap, I used them I. My stacker and they busted too easily with my maverick hybrid probes
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I've never had a problem just running the cord over the bowl edge than just sitting the lid on carefully. My thermo is 5 yrs old and still no issues.
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Another question: Will the Thermoworks Smoke probe fit into the WSM grommet? If so, what is the size of the hole drilled into the smoker/grill?
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I have no problems getting both Smoke probes through the WSM grommet.
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Thanks tmartin, good to know they will fit. Now to purchase some grommets.
Just to clarify my earlier reply. I have three older WSMs which do not have the newer grommet set up. I want to put the new grommets on the older smokers; what size hole do I drill into the smoker wall?
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just ordered a wsm grommet. wanted a factory looking part on my performer.
seems like best place to install is in the back? ideas?
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Hey randybill,
I've also gotten the grommet but undecided where I'd want install it. Would you post pics of your finish mod? I'm not keen on the "preformer" models and have a premium. It seems the table takes up one side and the Lid bale take up the other side of the bowl. And I guess one would want to install the grommet opposite the fire, idk.
Thanks!
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Trying to decide between the cable gland and weber grommet. I'm using my kettle with a stacker and charcoal basket so I'm curious if either of these can survive high temps. I plan to place one on the lid and one on the base of the kettle which will be near the charcoal basket.
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Silicone is typically safe up to about 500 degrees, never a realistic danger for a WSM's or stacker's central section.
Anything kettle-related and I'd be more inclined to use a metal "grommet"/hole.
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Silicone is typically safe up to about 500 degrees, never a realistic danger for a WSM's or stacker's central section.
Anything kettle-related and I'd be more inclined to use a metal "grommet"/hole.
I agree. Go metal if this on a kettle.
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Will the extra air be enough to affect temperature control? Could probably stuff a small ball of aluminum foil to help mitigate it.
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Do you mean because of leaking air? Just shut down the intake more. Or squeeze the lid vent some.
When not using a thermometer, I'd use a cap of some kind if the ferrule or whatever passes through the wall allows it.
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just for anyone's inquiry:
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did 3 cooks with the Weber grommet mod with the highest pit temp @ 350degrees, so far it's holding up.
I would try to install this as high as one can of the bowl's outer rim lip to clear the grate, it's a tad above the grate for me and I try to keep the grate away from touching it. I'd try not to keep the charcoal bin under it and situate it far away from the grommet as possible.
I don't need to get pizza type of temps although I need to try my small vortex in this 22" to see if that produces more heat that could destroy the grommet. lol, don' know how high of a temp the vortex produces soo... . It'll do okay with the Weber bins and the sns as long as I place either one somewhere away from the grommet.