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Cooking & Food Talk => Charcoal Grilling & BBQ => Topic started by: WMT on June 01, 2017, 07:39:21 PM
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I love how the vortex idea cooks chicken, its so easy, user freindly, and you can pack alot of meat on that outer ring on the mastertouch grill. Just wondering if it could be used for low and slow for something like ribs. Just load it with unlit birquets and drop a few lit ones on top and adjust the dampers to keep the heat down. Thats the exact same thing I do with my ugly drum smoker and and I've had it cruise along for 17 hours at 225-250ish. Might have to experiment.
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Well, you can do that. Turn the Vortex big end up, fill it, pull a few out to light and put back for startup. That does work, but I had problems with ash - you might have better luck. With the Vortex small end up, using the same technique I had issues with runaway temperatures every time. With the small end up the thing is a chimney, designed to move a lotta air over the coals.
Why not just build a snake? A snake for five hour ribs leaves plenty of space for food. And is a very stable method.
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yeah makes sence about the chimey thing. I want to try the snake method for my cext long cook.
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I love how the vortex idea cooks chicken, its so easy, user freindly, and you can pack alot of meat on that outer ring on the mastertouch grill. Just wondering if it could be used for low and slow for something like ribs. Just load it with unlit birquets and drop a few lit ones on top and adjust the dampers to keep the heat down. Thats the exact same thing I do with my ugly drum smoker and and I've had it cruise along for 17 hours at 225-250ish. Might have to experiment.
I also have a Weber Mastertouch Grill which I purchased last year which I use mainly for direct grilling, i.e., steaks, pork chops, hot dogs, etc. Last year I did purchase a SlowNSear in order to do some long-cooks on the Mastertouch but I have yet to use it. For my long-cooks I turn to my trusted WSM 18.5" "Classic" which I bought new the the year 2008. I just placed a order for a "GateWay Drum Hanger Kit" in order to cook-up some tasty ribs via "hook and drop" method on my WSM "Classic".
Last month I did purchase a medium-size Vortex and hope to give it a trial-run in cooking-up some "hot wings" in the next few weeks.
Also, last year I purchased a Weber Smoky Joe with the custom "Grill Grates" for very small cooks.
So, my moral-of-the-story is it is nice to have a variety of Weber Cookers in order to select the one that best suits one needs for a particular BBQ/Grilling outing.
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Keep in mind that the "V" doesn't have to be in the middle of the grill...Moving it to one side can give a much larger indirect area...
But if ya want low and slow place the wide side up and make a snake around the outside...
This works well with butts and roasts but may not work well with ribs...
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I did some side by side cooks using the vortex indirect, but couldn't tell a damn bit of difference
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Keep in mind that the "V" doesn't have to be in the middle of the grill...Moving it to one side can give a much larger indirect area...
But if ya want low and slow place the wide side up and make a snake around the outside...
This works well with butts and roasts but may not work well with ribs...
Yup. does work well wide side up and off to the side. Never tried cooking ribs with it tho... I think I feel an experiment coming on... 8)
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I forgot about the wide side up thing. That would work
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I love how the vortex idea cooks chicken, its so easy, user freindly, and you can pack alot of meat on that outer ring on the mastertouch grill. Just wondering if it could be used for low and slow for something like ribs. Just load it with unlit birquets and drop a few lit ones on top and adjust the dampers to keep the heat down. Thats the exact same thing I do with my ugly drum smoker and and I've had it cruise along for 17 hours at 225-250ish. Might have to experiment.
I also have a Weber Mastertouch Grill which I purchased last year which I use mainly for direct grilling, i.e., steaks, pork chops, hot dogs, etc. Last year I did purchase a SlowNSear in order to do some long-cooks on the Mastertouch but I have yet to use it. For my long-cooks I turn to my trusted WSM 18.5" "Classic" which I bought new the the year 2008. I just placed a order for a "GateWay Drum Hanger Kit" in order to cook-up some tasty ribs via "hook and drop" method on my WSM "Classic".
Last month I did purchase a medium-size Vortex and hope to give it a trial-run in cooking-up some "hot wings" in the next few weeks.
Also, last year I purchased a Weber Smoky Joe with the custom "Grill Grates" for very small cooks.
So, my moral-of-the-story is it is nice to have a variety of Weber Cookers in order to select the one that best suits one needs for a particular BBQ/Grilling outing.
What custom grates do you have for the smokey joe. Is it the 14" or the 18"
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What custom grates do you have for the smokey joe. Is it the 14" or the 18"
One HaPPY purchase of the Custom Grill Grates for the Weber Smoky Joe 14".
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The main benefit of using the V when using the snake method is that a roast like a pork butt has no direct heat hitting it. You can get similar results from putting a half pan in the center but it does not reach to the cooking grate. This angle pushes the direct heat away from center. If ya have it, try it. It's basically a deflector while using the snake method
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The main benefit of using the V when using the snake method is that a roast like a pork butt has no direct heat hitting it. You can get similar results from putting a half pan in the center but it does not reach to the cooking grate. This angle pushes the direct heat away from center. If ya have it, try it. It's basically a deflector while using the snake method
I have done the same thing except I put either parchment paper or aluminum foil down under the small end of the vortex
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The main benefit of using the V when using the snake method is that a roast like a pork butt has no direct heat hitting it. You can get similar results from putting a half pan in the center but it does not reach to the cooking grate. This angle pushes the direct heat away from center. If ya have it, try it. It's basically a deflector while using the snake method
Yup. Listen to this guy. He invented it. 8)
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@WMT Like @SMOKE FREAK said " keep in mind it doesn't have to be in the center of the grill." I asked the same question a while back and experimented. http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/grilling-bbqing/vortex-question-20941/msg213765/#msg213765 While I don't use this method all the time, it does open up a ton of room on the grill. Especially on the 18's I cook on most often.
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The main benefit of using the V when using the snake method is that a roast like a pork butt has no direct heat hitting it. You can get similar results from putting a half pan in the center but it does not reach to the cooking grate. This angle pushes the direct heat away from center. If ya have it, try it. It's basically a deflector while using the snake method
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Good to know, thanks
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The main benefit of using the V when using the snake method is that a roast like a pork butt has no direct heat hitting it. You can get similar results from putting a half pan in the center but it does not reach to the cooking grate. This angle pushes the direct heat away from center. If ya have it, try it. It's basically a deflector while using the snake method
I have done the same thing except I put either parchment paper or aluminum foil down under the small end of the vortex
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This is a GREAT plan...Covering the lower grate with foil to direct the air flow in the right direction is a great tip...When I'm using it wide side up and the fire is around the "V" I place an aluminum pin pan inside the "V"...A great fit and does a great job of directing the air to the fire...
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The main benefit of using the V when using the snake method is that a roast like a pork butt has no direct heat hitting it. You can get similar results from putting a half pan in the center but it does not reach to the cooking grate. This angle pushes the direct heat away from center. If ya have it, try it. It's basically a deflector while using the snake method
I have done the same thing except I put either parchment paper or aluminum foil down under the small end of the vortex
Sent From My Weber Seeking Samsung
This is a GREAT plan...Covering the lower grate with foil to direct the air flow in the right direction is a great tip...When I'm using it wide side up and the fire is around the "V" I place an aluminum pin pan inside the "V"...A great fit and does a great job of directing the air to the fire...
When I do the wide side up, I use the pie pan method also. Works grate!
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Unless I'm running a snake I cook using the Vortex method. 1/8 cents open top and bottom run about 325 for a few hours. Works good for me and allows all different techniques. A fire is a fire in a kettle, just use your vents (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170704/70e36c53ee4195aa08133e37a6c37a76.jpg)
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I followed the directions from the website and made some pulled pork, worked like a charm.
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