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Title: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: firedude5015 on March 08, 2017, 01:26:22 PM
Picked this up today...cleaned a little, thinking it was burgundy, but the more I look, them more I wanna say Plum
EI code Mt
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It's rough, but it'll make a decent cooker either way.
The pictures don't show the purpleish hue I see.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: MaxBobcat on March 08, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
not a plum!  i'd say thats the burgundy color.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on March 08, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
Looks exactly like the EO Burgundy MT I recently grabbed. Awesome find!!!  Does look like Plum in fluorescent light.


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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on March 08, 2017, 01:37:21 PM
Plum was only a 2000/2001 color(?)


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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: firedude5015 on March 08, 2017, 01:45:32 PM
Thanks Guys...Burgundy it is....stay tuned for....modifications

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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Craig on March 08, 2017, 02:55:37 PM
Yeah those don't come up often. The color I believe IS burgundy. They offered them in 1997 but it sure about before or after. Jeff K has one too. I love this color MT.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: kettlebb on March 08, 2017, 03:38:45 PM
Not to hijack the thread but this makes me wonder if my MT is red or Burgundy. It's a P code, what colors were offered in '93?


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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: firedude5015 on March 08, 2017, 07:01:33 PM
Not to hijack the thread but this makes me wonder if my MT is red or Burgundy. It's a P code, what colors were offered in '93?


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Hijack away. ..post a pic
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: greenweb on March 08, 2017, 07:25:21 PM
Nice score! Burgundy color is lot different than Red or Red mist MT.

This pic is  from The Weber Master Touch History.  Red on the left and the burgundy between blue and green.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/03/08/MT5-trio.jpg)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: 1ROW on March 08, 2017, 07:46:54 PM
I thought burgundy and plum were the same, plum being a nickname like brownie for copper mist or lime for, well, lime.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Vwbuggin64 on March 08, 2017, 08:50:32 PM
Well shit...now there is another color I'm after. My goal is to have my backyard look like a bag of skittles with all the colors


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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: pbe gummi bear on March 08, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
I thought burgundy and plum were the same, plum being a nickname like brownie for copper mist or lime for, well, lime.

No, there is a distinct difference:

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1026105_984287338128_158978166_o.jpg?oh=f90c5336e8f9a8cf473e92edf854c677&oe=592D7E26) @Jeff's grills as I don't know what we decided the names of them are.

Brick Red and Crimson are easier to differentiate in pictures.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SmokenJoe on March 08, 2017, 09:40:36 PM
@pbe gummi bear;  Help !!!

From our Performer History pages; "... the SS performer had an integrated, removable  thermometer located in the lid handle.  Colors offered in Gen 1 include Black, Red, Red Mist, Dark Green, Dark Blue, Plum, and Grey.  "
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/03/08/1995PlumGen1Performer.jpg)

From our Master Touch History pages;  "In addition to green, blue, and black, the Master Touch was also offered in red, red mist, copper mist, grey and burgundy. The model was only offered in the 22.5” size. Weber produced the Gen 1 Master Touch in the US from 1992 until 1999, at which time both the BAR-B-KETTLE and the Master Touch were discontinued."
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/03/08/1997BurgundyMT.jpg)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: pbe gummi bear on March 08, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
@pbe gummi bear;  Help !!!

From our Performer History pages; "... the SS performer had an integrated, removable  thermometer located in the lid handle.  Colors offered in Gen 1 include Black, Red, Red Mist, Dark Green, Dark Blue, Plum, and Grey.  "
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/03/08/1995PlumGen1Performer.jpg)

From our Master Touch History pages;  "In addition to green, blue, and black, the Master Touch was also offered in red, red mist, copper mist, grey and burgundy. The model was only offered in the 22.5” size. Weber produced the Gen 1 Master Touch in the US from 1992 until 1999, at which time both the BAR-B-KETTLE and the Master Touch were discontinued."
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/03/08/1997BurgundyMT.jpg)

Uh, I'm not the best person to ask for this because I never had the patience to track the nuances of when these colors where available when and for what model. It's the source of much debate! I definitely have seen a Plum SS performer and a burgundy Master Touch but I don't recall seeing the vice versa. Plum IS available for regular OT 18's and 22's. I believe the grill in the first post is a burgundy/maroon and NOT the plum/purple/aubergine/eggplant color.

Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SmokenJoe on March 08, 2017, 11:11:03 PM
Uh, I'm not the best person to ask for this because I never had the patience to track the nuances of when these colors where available when and for what model. It's the source of much debate! I definitely have seen a Plum SS performer and a burgundy Master Touch but I don't recall seeing the vice versa. Plum IS available for regular OT 18's and 22's. I believe the grill in the first post is a burgundy/maroon and NOT the plum/purple/aubergine/eggplant color.

@pbe gummi bear  I hear you.  I now believe that either our documentation needs a review or Weber played fast and loose with their nomenclature.  My SSP is called plum in our doc's, but it looks like the light burgundy of the later MT.  Of course, the fruit plum comes in both burgundy and purple based on variety :) .  In any case, that's all of the conjecture I can handle this late at night.

SJ
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: pbe gummi bear on March 08, 2017, 11:22:33 PM
Uh, I'm not the best person to ask for this because I never had the patience to track the nuances of when these colors where available when and for what model. It's the source of much debate! I definitely have seen a Plum SS performer and a burgundy Master Touch but I don't recall seeing the vice versa. Plum IS available for regular OT 18's and 22's. I believe the grill in the first post is a burgundy/maroon and NOT the plum/purple/aubergine/eggplant color.

@pbe gummi bear  I hear you.  I now believe that either our documentation needs a review or Weber played fast and loose with their nomenclature.  My SSP is called plum in our doc's, but it looks like the light burgundy of the later MT.  Of course, the fruit plum comes in both burgundy and purple based on variety :) .  In any case, that's all of the conjecture I can handle this late at night.

SJ

word. We'll let the peanut gallery decide.

Set the scene:

I get an e-mail from @SmokenJoe  on the Friday of Memorial Day weekend with a link for a $60 Red SS Performer. I'm loaded up to help my teammate cook for a Baseball Tournament Fundraiser Saturday morning and there is no way I'm going to be able to get to it. The craigslist post stated it was a one day sale from 9-4 with "no early birds". Kind of a downer!

Wake up Saturday and my buddy Mark texts me and is already setup and smoking (nervous energy!), so I find out the address is on my way to the Tournament and I swing by @ 8:15AM and I can see the Performer from the road with a couple guys huddled around it (DAMN Early Birds!). It is a junkyard lot with a couple storage buildings on the property and a few 1-800-GOT-JUNK trucks parked outside.

I get up to the grill and it turns out the guys around it were looking at bicycles, and I just bulldoze my way through and drag it near my SUV. The lady in charge of the sale came up and I shot her a lowball, but she had a list of items from the CL ad and stuck firm. I load it up and off I go to to the ball fields.

Didn't think much of it, it sat in the car overnight, rainy overcast weekend, but it looked darker than my Redheads, and it sat next to my comp trailer (Maroon BTW) until Monday, and I'm really not getting the picture - its not a Redhead!!

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/IMG_1834.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/IMG_1838.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/IMG_1845.jpg)

Fast forward Friday -  4th of July weekend:

Larry makes the trip North to visit the family-we hook up and @SmokenJoe is in possession of his next Weber project!!

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/swamprb/IMG_1914.jpg)

@Craig has "every kettle has a story" in his signature - Larry can finish the rest of this story!
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: RottiGuy on March 09, 2017, 12:46:33 AM
Nice pick up, looks great!
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: kettlebb on March 09, 2017, 01:19:30 AM
MT next to my RED patent pending.

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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: hawgheaven on March 09, 2017, 03:04:25 AM
All I can say is, if I had the room, I'd have every color...
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: firedude5015 on March 09, 2017, 04:51:05 AM
It's certainly an interesting color.
I have plans to make a slight mod to this one...maybe

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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: firedude5015 on March 09, 2017, 11:45:26 AM
Maybe they did make a Burgundy SSP....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170309/d2de730b014e428ac17c44644342abac.jpg)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on December 09, 2017, 12:25:05 PM
So is plum actually a Weber colour ? Has anyone seen a box with the colour plum on it?
Could it just be that there were slight changes in the paint over different years of production but both colours are still Burgundy? @Craig
Here's a pic of a Burgundy GA box. Fact!
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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SmokenJoe on December 09, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
@Hogsy   Now THAT's a PLUM   ...   or is it a Burgundy :)   Beautiful GA ...

SJ
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 09, 2017, 05:37:59 PM
1) Yes there was a burgundy SSP. In addition to the ones shown in this thread, my brother-in-law has one purchased from a member here.

2) "Plum" is not a nickname for burgundy. It's another rare color only offered a couple of years around that 2000/2001 timeframe. It simply looks dark-purplish, more so than the burgundy.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on December 09, 2017, 09:24:26 PM
So Plum, Burgundy and Brick Red were all offered by weber at the same time?
Seems weird they would sell pretty much 3 of the same colour at the one time
Has anyone seen a box or have a catalogue that names Plum as a colour?
I can’t rest till I have proof 🙄
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 10, 2017, 08:21:38 AM
Same years? I never considered that. But yes, I'd agree with same "timeframe". Burgundy a little earlier (late '90s) Plum after that, Brick Red whenever Kraft wanted them (sorry, best I got on that.)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SmokenJoe on December 10, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
My "Burgundy" (aka Weber "Plum"???) was on my SSP when I picked her up from Brian.  Vent code  ...  EO --> '95.  See comparison picture (red vs. Burgundum) above.

SJ
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Martin75 on December 10, 2017, 10:47:54 PM
not a plum!  i'd say thats the burgundy color.
Looks like the new type of Weber Mater Touch - we call it "brick red" by us , see pictures  http://www.grilykrby.cz/products/gril-weber-master-touch-gbs-57-cm-cihlove-cerveny/ (http://www.grilykrby.cz/products/gril-weber-master-touch-gbs-57-cm-cihlove-cerveny/)
(http://www.grilykrby.cz/2506-thickbox_default/2506-gril-weber-master-touch-gbs-57-cm-cihlove-cerveny.jpg)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: bear on December 11, 2017, 02:09:02 AM


1) Yes there was a burgundy SSP. In addition to the ones shown in this thread, my brother-in-law has one purchased from a member here.

2) "Plum" is not a nickname for burgundy. It's another rare color only offered a couple of years around that 2000/2001 timeframe. It simply looks dark-purplish, more so than the burgundy.

I have owned 4 kettles as described in pt 2 of this post, over the years. All 4 were the darker "purple" looking colour described as plum by most.

None of them were with an original box so I don't know what the official Weber colour was called. However, what I do know is the date codes on each.

DD 2000 - OTS 22
DA 2001 - OTS 18
DU 2002 - OTG 22
DT 2003 - OTP 22
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: DrewZ on December 11, 2017, 07:42:52 AM
"My" DD plum OTP.  Looks more purply.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YTvoXdw-jFIVa2Zb4Kw3EFo0SCJEGznhccPNg3_5G23XPv-gfdKA7qKw1X9l4tXUo3rxr1vw8_m5WdtlUc2V4OM6wg_tSQBaoQfqMkNzQpBxI6xIAsTIU1hwkCyDWEi1YV8qun8JVQ)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SmokenJoe on December 11, 2017, 10:18:02 AM
Yes, in that light w/ that color rendition, definitely PLUM looking.  At least THREE distinct colors: Burgundy, Plum, & Brick Red.  ???  ???  ???

SJ
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 11, 2017, 06:51:45 PM
Looks like the new type of Weber Msater Touch - we call it "brick red" by us , see pictures ...

That link called it cihlově červený = terra cotta in English?
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 11, 2017, 06:53:48 PM
At least THREE distinct colors: Burgundy, Plum, & Brick Red.  ???  ???  ???

Crimson isn't too far off in shade.

[Red and Red Mist and Limited Edition Red]

I still maintain that the Plum is altogether dark purple in a way the burgundy and brick red are not.
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on December 12, 2017, 10:18:21 AM
Does anyone have the the 99,00,01,02 catalogues that might show colours available for those years?
@reillyranch
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SmokenJoe on December 12, 2017, 01:18:43 PM
Does anyone have the '95 catalog that should resolve the plum/burgundy issue w/ the SSP that I have?
@reillyranch

SJ
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Scott Zee on December 12, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Both the Redmist MT and Burgundy OT+ are "EO" code.
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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 12, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
LOL ya'll blowin' up Ed's mailbox.

The truth is out there ...
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: 1buckie on December 13, 2017, 07:12:45 AM
2087 views.....37 replies & only swamp came close....."What A Maroon !!!"
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on December 15, 2017, 11:07:26 AM
Been doing some research with RR, here's some info from catalogues dated 1994-2002. No mention of Plum or brick red and only maroon is in the gas BBQ range. Interesting brown is called brown and not chocolate
1996 not listed
1995 not listed
1994 Brown
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1998 Maroon
1997 Maroon
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1999  not listed
2000  burgundy
2001  burgundy
2002 not listed
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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: bear on March 13, 2018, 11:12:50 AM
Suprised this hasn't made it here yet. This was recently found in Australia by a WKC Aussie(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180313/3eca781604daad5d2351ccb60fe61e50.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180313/c1af82f34a3c72f31a59556791cc09a7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180313/d86a378fb1f013394a5d54b3d7ffff7c.jpg)
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: JEBIV on March 13, 2018, 11:13:53 AM
WOW that's a beauty @bear
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: bear on March 13, 2018, 11:15:29 AM
Yeah, pity not mine
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: JEBIV on March 13, 2018, 11:24:07 AM
or mine
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on March 13, 2018, 12:17:58 PM
@pbe gummi bear
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on March 13, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
And now this.... Burgundy ‘P’



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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: Hogsy on March 13, 2018, 12:22:24 PM
Ain’t she a beaut


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Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: 56MPG on March 13, 2018, 12:23:19 PM
Added Burgundy to the list:

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/colors-semi-official-thread-of-names-for-weber-kettle-colors/
Title: Re: Burgundy. ..Plum...Idk
Post by: SixZeroFour on March 13, 2018, 01:55:03 PM
That’s a sexy looking MT! Very nice!