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Title: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on March 24, 2013, 01:46:34 PM
One of my SS Performers (green) has the tab that holds the grates, inside the kettle) partly broken. The tab is misplaced just enough that the grate wont sit on it. Every time I try to flip something on that part of the grate it moves.

I want to fix it but havent been able to think of a way to do it without drilling a hole in the kettle and putting a SS bolt in it. I thought about doing the same thing to both tabs on that side just to make it look like it was supposed to be like that.


Got any ideas for another way I can fix it?
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: reillyranch on March 25, 2013, 02:59:44 PM
Did you try to call Weber, they are pretty good about sending free replacement parts.  If it is miswelded they might just put a new one in the mail to you.  Its worth a shot, call 800-446-1071, they are there till 1 am central time.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on March 25, 2013, 07:06:59 PM
Worth a try I guess although its an older SS version.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Heyjude on March 25, 2013, 08:15:21 PM
I think they have a 10 yr warranty, so the date code needs to be no older than 2003. DT or 2004 DH
They stopped making the SS in 2005.  There goona want the serila number if you have it.
Good Luck!  8)
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Bob BQ on March 28, 2013, 09:01:16 PM
Hellfire, did you have any luck with Weber CS on this?  I've got a a '91 SS Redhead Performer that has two of the of brackets that hold the charcoal grate snapped off.  It works alright without them, but I'd love to find a solution...  Anyone else have this happen, or have a solution?
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: reillyranch on March 29, 2013, 11:19:12 PM
Bob B Q, I might be wrong but I am pretty sure Weber would not have any red kettle bowls still around.   I have never fixed a broken/bad weld so my knowledge is very limited on the repair issue.   I would still call them to see what can be done.  Good luck and post some pictures of your redhead when you can..
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: 1buckie on March 30, 2013, 07:00:25 AM


   I went looking to see if they showed the welding of this part on "Modern Marvels"......

Some factory shots & George's son with an original kettle, but no dice on this specific piece.....

It's somehow welded into the inside, without a mark on the outside, that I can tell, even on the old, old ones I have........


The video is  linked on a different thread........
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on March 30, 2013, 07:34:26 AM
The Green SS Performer is a DD so its unlikely they'll warranty it, although I still havent called. Im thinking I'll just use SS hardware to bolt it back together and be done with it. Ill use distorted thread locknuts so I can leave them loose enough that the porcelain enamel finish dont chip when tightening.
 
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: HankB on March 30, 2013, 10:55:53 AM
   I went looking to see if they showed the welding of this part on "Modern Marvels"......
I'm certain that they weld them before applying the porcelain finish.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: 1buckie on March 30, 2013, 11:59:52 AM
   I went looking to see if they showed the welding of this part on "Modern Marvels"......
I'm certain that they weld them before applying the porcelain finish.

Yeah, I'm sure they do, I was just flipping thru the video to see if they showed exactly how they did it to maybe think up a fix.........
It's undetectable on the outside, even on ones that are beat up in that area.....I'm at least a minor expert at beat up ones ~~~>  8)
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hogsy on March 30, 2013, 02:08:34 PM
So if they weld them first there shouldn't be any paint underneath the tab?
I pulled one off the other week and it seemed to have paint behind the tab
Also would this make a weak point in the kettle? Somewhere that rust could start
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: HankB on March 30, 2013, 05:12:05 PM
I would think they would spot weld those on. That would probably weld a 3-4mm spot and the porcelain could fill the rest of the gap. Is that what you saw?
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hogsy on March 30, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
Not sure
It seemed like it was painted then spot welded as the back of the tab and bowl all had a full coat of paint
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: HankB on March 31, 2013, 04:50:43 PM
Not sure
It seemed like it was painted then spot welded as the back of the tab and bowl all had a full coat of paint
Any kind of welding requires metal to metal contact. Any impurities such as porcelain enamel would compromise the weld. Spot welding in particular requires passing current through the two pieces of metal and that requires a conductive path between them.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: zavod44 on March 31, 2013, 05:05:26 PM
Just drill a hole and put a stainless L bracket.  It is the easiest fix.  If you keep it covered it won't rust.  You don't need a giant one it can be a relatively small nut and bolt.  Your grill will be back in the fight in no time....
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on March 31, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
Oh I still use it.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: zavod44 on March 31, 2013, 05:21:24 PM
Oh I figured you did, but you got to get that bad boy back to 100%....
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hogsy on March 31, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Not sure
It seemed like it was painted then spot welded as the back of the tab and bowl all had a full coat of paint
Any kind of welding requires metal to metal contact. Any impurities such as porcelain enamel would compromise the weld. Spot welding in particular requires passing current through the two pieces of metal and that requires a conductive path between them.
Yeah that makes sense Hank
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Heyjude on March 31, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
Just to clarify, they stamp out all the parts, electrically weld all the brackets, clean them, then they apply porcelain coating , which is heated to 1400 degrees. No paint!  That's why they last. Its my blelief that they chip at he welded points first. Likely because the metal wan't cleaned real well before the application.  8)
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on April 01, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
I finally got this project done today, as much as I hate to drill holes in a nearly perfect kettle. On the bright side the grate stays where its supposed to now. Cost less than $3 but took 2 years to get done.

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/americanwest/kettle/PerformerFix002_zps205cfb22.jpg) (http://s175.photobucket.com/user/americanwest/media/kettle/PerformerFix002_zps205cfb22.jpg.html)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/americanwest/kettle/PerformerFix003_zps10d5b98d.jpg) (http://s175.photobucket.com/user/americanwest/media/kettle/PerformerFix003_zps10d5b98d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Heyjude on April 01, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
Looks Stock to me! 8)
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on April 01, 2013, 04:55:22 PM
Thanks!

I think I'll replace the rusty bolts that attach the kettle to the frame with some SS next.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: glrasmussen on April 01, 2013, 07:49:56 PM
Thanks!

I think I'll replace the rusty bolts that attach the kettle to the frame with some SS next.

I'm sure in less than two years. :) No problem with that fix, look great.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: zavod44 on April 02, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Great job, no one in the world would ever look twice....maybe the nerds here but nevermind them anyhow!
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: HankB on April 02, 2013, 05:26:55 PM
Looks like a good fix. I like Brian's suggestion. Of course he derailed our long drawn out conversation about how they were installed in the first place.  :o  ;)

Now you need to cook something greasy in there to rustproof the fix.  ;D
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on April 02, 2013, 07:31:10 PM
Great job, no one in the world would ever look twice....maybe the nerds here but nevermind them anyhow!

HEY!! I resemble that remark. At around 20 kettles.
Title: Re: Broken grate holder tab inside kettle
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on April 02, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
Looks like a good fix. I like Brian's suggestion. Of course he derailed our long drawn out conversation about how they were installed in the first place.  :o  ;)

Now you need to cook something greasy in there to rustproof the fix.  ;D

Cooked some chicken the same day. Thanks!