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Title: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on June 20, 2016, 05:18:30 AM
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In TN today, browsing craigslist ... didn't bite, but stumbled on this. It's a hand-made stainless steel cook grate for the 22. As you can see it's not a flip grate. But, it's made from 1/4" 304 SS. Made in TN, $67 Just Google the name if interested, it's a little under the radar (partly because of the name? but on Etsy/FB/Nashville CL ... there's a company web site but it's not listed there.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/06/20/killagrillagrate.jpg)

So I'm interested, because I don't use my flip grates, anyway (to add charcoal during a long cook.)

And that kicked in my neurosis ... why am I not "needing" to cook longer/add charcoal during cooking? Dammit, I have the feature, why not use it, right?

Do I need to make new friends and cook all day long, adding fuel throughout the day creating a never-ending stream of burgers and dogs for all humanity?
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: mhiszem on June 20, 2016, 05:50:42 AM
Lol, that is a good looking grate. Definitely would be curious to try it. Is this cheaper then the stainless weber sells now? I don't really use flip grates either. When I smoke I use the snake and never need it long enough to have to refill.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/274497870/215-round-bbq-stainless-grill-cooking?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=stainless%20grill%20grate&ref=sr_gallery_1 (https://www.etsy.com/listing/274497870/215-round-bbq-stainless-grill-cooking?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=stainless%20grill%20grate&ref=sr_gallery_1)

https://www.etsy.com/shop/KillaGrilla?ref=l2-shop-info-name (https://www.etsy.com/shop/KillaGrilla?ref=l2-shop-info-name)
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 20, 2016, 06:00:15 AM

As Sheldon on the Big Bang would say, "Sarcasm"? I take it you do not cook whole turkeys or large roasts @addicted-to-smoke ?  I usually can get away cooking a whole chicken without adding briquettes but anything that requires a cook time longer than 1 hour 20 minutes requires adding additional briquettes.  If you have never done a whole turkey on the Weber with a little apple wood, you are really missing out.  Once I did my first one, have not had an oven cooked turkey since at Thanksgiving.

@mhiszem - The SS grate from Weber (part #80728) is $72 delivered. Bought one a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on June 20, 2016, 06:06:02 AM
No I haven't done many longer cooks. But I have a rotisserie for it, does that count if I need to add coals for a turkey? Assuming you could rotisserie a turkey ...

As it is, I already fight surface rust on my normal grate. If I got something like this and used the GBS even less, it would be worse. Decisions, decisions ...
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 20, 2016, 06:28:40 AM
No I haven't done many longer cooks. But I have a rotisserie for it, does that count if I need to add coals for a turkey? Assuming you could rotisserie a turkey ...

As it is, I already fight surface rust on my normal grate. If I got something like this and used the GBS even less, it would be worse. Decisions, decisions ...

I have not used a rotisserie yet either. I just acquired a free one a week ago on CL though and will use it shortly. I have always cooked the turkey on the grate.  When cooking indirect, Weber recommends adding 8 briquettes per side, per hour. The cook time for a turkey is roughly 11 minutes per pound. I would think the same rules would apply to a rotisserie done turkey.  What say you members that have cooked a turkey on a rotisserie?
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5&quot; SS cooking grate
Post by: Travis on June 20, 2016, 06:34:02 AM
Having a ss grate would be nice, but I would like the flip grate also. I don't use them often, but invariably forget to add a drip pan or want to move a basket somewhere else. They do come in handy.

That being said, trying to juggle a grate off to the side to add coals with a rack of ribs and a thermometer wire feeding in there somewhere is a bitch.


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Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5&quot; SS cooking grate
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 20, 2016, 06:52:11 AM
Having a ss grate would be nice, but I would like the flip grate also. I don't use them often, but invariably forget to add a drip pan or want to move a basket somewhere else. They do come in handy.

That being said, trying to juggle a grate off to the side to add coals with a rack of ribs and a thermometer wire feeding in there somewhere is a bitch.


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The Weber SS grate has the flip up panels @Travis. Here is a link with a photo comparisons to the gourmet grate:

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/ss-cooking-grate-for-the-22'/msg222038/#msg222038

Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Jon on June 20, 2016, 07:23:06 AM
 Grates wouldn't normally enter a discussion of rotisserie. Except maybe: "Remove cooking grate before adding rotisserie ring."
Title: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Travis on June 20, 2016, 09:01:53 AM
@Cellar2ful. I e seen those from weber and priced them. Sounds like it's heavy duty stuff.

Jim, you'll love that rotisserie. I can't tell you about the times for a turkey, but a 5 lb chicken is generally 1 1/2 hour at a medium high heat (375-400).

What I can say is there is no need to brine or anything. The moisture is through the roof with the self basting it does, and make sure to use a drip pan. It will make a mess if you don't. Looking forward to see yours in action, brother! Thanks for the link as well.
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: ABCbarbecue on June 20, 2016, 10:58:54 AM
This is a nice SS option.  It's pretty much identical to Weber's hinged grate but is made of 304 SS.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F6FEXNS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: argentflame on June 21, 2016, 12:50:19 AM
@ABCbarbecue ordered one. Thanks. My sister is going to buy it for me.
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: soobaerodude on June 21, 2016, 08:59:33 AM
This is a nice SS option.  It's pretty much identical to Weber's hinged grate but is made of 304 SS.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F6FEXNS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nice, a more reasonable alternative to the Weber 80728 SS grate.  On a side note, the supposedly-stainless-steel Grill Care 17436 has disappeared from Amazon.  Searching for that part points to the regular Weber 7436 plated grate
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: jaynik on June 21, 2016, 03:59:50 PM
Interesting.  That's much cheaper.  Can someone who understands ore products explain whether 304 ss is better or crappier than what Weber uses?
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5&quot; SS cooking grate
Post by: mhiszem on June 21, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
I was not able to find what grade of stainless weber uses on their grates. Chances are if they don't directly call out the grade it is a cheaper grade. Are the weber ss grates magnetic? That would be a give away that they are a cheaper grade.

This article has a decent description of ss in the grill world.
http://amazingribs.com/BBQ_buyers_guide/understand_stainless_steel.html (http://amazingribs.com/BBQ_buyers_guide/understand_stainless_steel.html)
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5&quot; SS cooking grate
Post by: Joetee on April 19, 2017, 06:05:57 AM
I sent him a msg that I want the ss grate. How long does it take to get a response?

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Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 19, 2017, 06:12:22 AM

@Joetee- Did you email him? (bellexinc@msn.com)  The owner, Mark, is real good in responding. I would expect you will receive a response before the end of today. I have 2 of the Killa Grilla SS grates.  Big Fan. Here is my review of the Killa Grilla grate.

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/product-reviews/killagrilla-heavy-duty-flip-up-grates-(304-ss)/msg269510/#msg269510
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: 56MPG on April 19, 2017, 06:23:16 AM
FYI - I sent him a note to ask about a 26.75 size to use with the Slow 'N Sear XL. Basically a non-hinged grate with a wide opening on one side. I'm thinking it could still do double duty by rotating the grate, but for those long cooks when you're not planning to sear, why not have it wide open and accessible? I'll report back when I hear from him.
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: JEBIV on April 19, 2017, 06:50:37 AM
FYI - I sent him a note to ask about a 26.75 size to use with the Slow 'N Sear XL. Basically a non-hinged grate with a wide opening on one side. I'm thinking it could still do double duty by rotating the grate, but for those long cooks when you're not planning to sear, why not have it wide open and accessible? I'll report back when I hear from him.
That is a grate idea I would to have something like that
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 19, 2017, 06:56:37 AM

@56MPG- He makes a grate like you describe for use with a Slow'N Sear in 22" size. Here is the one I have. I don't see them listed on his website. I know he had plans to make grates for 26". @JEBIV- Send Mark an email. Pretty sure if he has several people asking for a product he will produce it.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/19/DSC03373.md.jpg)

Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5&quot; SS cooking grate
Post by: Joetee on April 19, 2017, 07:05:55 AM
I left him a note in the commits section of his web page. I give him some time. It's not like I need it tomorrow. LOL

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Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: 56MPG on April 19, 2017, 11:24:56 AM
No dice. He got back and said thanks, but they don't make one like that. I need one for the 26er, but good to know he makes one like it (or did) for the 22.5.
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: toolhead on April 19, 2017, 02:16:28 PM
67 cheaper tha  weber ss grates?  They currently run 65 thru weber...+ shipping etc....

When someone orders this TN can you report back with digital caliper measurement...

Ill .easure my weber oem ss grates soon and post back on current thickness....

I use my flipup grates too often to go without the flipup option.
Title: Re: Kills Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: toolhead on April 19, 2017, 04:09:33 PM
This is a nice SS option.  It's pretty much identical to Weber's hinged grate but is made of 304 SS.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F6FEXNS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nice, a more reasonable alternative to the Weber 80728 SS grate.  On a side note, the supposedly-stainless-steel Grill Care 17436 has disappeared from Amazon.  Searching for that part points to the regular Weber 7436 plated grate


there is another mnu ss grate selling on amazon.. a little more expensive.. think its around 40 bucks.. pretty sure it had the flip up grates.. i think that this new manu on amazon is marketing 304 grade ss

304 grade is the rated as commercially the most non corrosive ss in mass production.. of course there are specialty ss which is more non corrosive.. but then you are working with metal which would not be available for grill grates..

400 series ss is also very very good.. i wouldn't be concerned with using 400 series ss grade..

either would probably outlast all of us...
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5&quot; SS cooking grate
Post by: Joetee on April 20, 2017, 08:21:53 AM
Ok... Looks like a real nice grill but for $75? Is it a little over kill? Or am I gonna kick myself later on for not buying it now?

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Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 20, 2017, 09:58:11 AM


@Joetee- I have no regrets on purchasing the Killa Grilla SS grate. I love the heavy sear marks they produce as opposed to standard or gourmet grates. I can tell you that a couple of other WKC members have seen my grate in person and said they plan on purchasing one for themselves. The pictures do not do them justice.  Weber installs the thicker 9 mm SS grates on their most expensive Summit series grills for a reason.
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: Meat_smoke_repeat on April 20, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
Wish he would make 26" grates...
Title: Re: Killa Grilla 22.5" SS cooking grate
Post by: toolhead on April 20, 2017, 04:41:33 PM
grates are like fuel.. either you have a taste for the more expensive ones or dont...

but the 1 diff with ss grates is longevity.. going the cheaper route, we all know the zinc coated lasted 2/ 3 years.. maybe longer if you really care for them..but they will zinc out and rust.. or if you keep them heavily seasoned with black grease coating..they can last longer if you are okay with that coating.

i personally have a taste for ss everything.. longevity and not having to clean/ or rebuy grates is a big value for me.

i dont have these grates, but do have the weber oem ss grates and paid a pretty nickel for them.. but they will pay themselves back in due time, with not having to replace the zinc coated one..

im currently in the market for craycorts this season as well.

i currently have all the grills im looking to keep/ keep as cookers and having taken a break on grill buying, now ive been buying playing with accessories.

if you want ss grates but dont want to be in the $70 range. which weber oem ss models or the one being discussed here..

check amazon for that $40 option..its marketed as 304 staineless steel and has the flip sides.. in case you continually move your bins, like i do. for indirect/ direct cook methods.