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Cooking & Food Talk => Charcoal Grilling & BBQ => Topic started by: Harleysmoker on December 30, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
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My wife bought me the 5 pc. Lodge set. It was pre seasoned, but before I used them, I lightly washed with soap and water, and I did 3 seasonings in the oven with Crisco. Then I fried bacon in them all, and many other things, made chili in the dutch oven on the Weber kettle, fried eggs, onions, peppers etc. in the skillet.
I read that tomatoe and acidic based foods shouldn't be used but my chili had no ill effect on it.
I am thinking of doing pork and sauerkraut in the Dutch Oven for several hours tomorrow.
Will the Sauerkraut hurt the seasoning or leave a metallic taste in the food?
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If the dutch oven is seasoned, then the kraut won't be touching metal, just the carbon on the seasoning. You should be ok.
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i've heard it both ways that high acid foods will/won't leach some of the iron out and into your food. erring on the side of caution, I have an inexpensive cast iron dutch oven that I use for high acid foods. if it tastes okay and you don't do it often, i'd think you're probably okay even if you get some extra iron in the sauce. of course, those disposable aluminum pans are pretty cheap too if you don't want to risk it and don't have other tools to use.
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Cheap aluminum would be even worse. If there is really a worry about low pH, then use stainless steel or anodized aluminum or something enameled. Or even non-stick if it is all low temp.
Is this diluted at all? Or straight pork and kraut? I've thinking along the lines of drained sauerkraut and pork with maybe a beer added?
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I use my CI dutch oven for tomato sauces all of the time. These CI oldies were made for cooking just like our kettles. I never taste metal in my sauce, but a little iron in the diet is probably a good thing. However, I don't wash with soap ... sometimes I do use a chain-mail scrubber. SJ
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If it's properly seasoned tomato sauce (chili) or sauerkraut shouldn't hurt it. Lodge is good stuff.
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@Harleysmoker This I can help with... I use Cast Iron all the time. Have alot of it. I do soup, stews, stuffed green peppers "that uses tomato on it and in it", and many other foods in cast iron. the only thing I've noticed is when I use a lot of garlic it will leave a rancid smell afterwards. I found that using lemon or lime to wipe it down after cleaning eliminates the smell coming from the cast iron. You did the right thing washing the first time use soap and do a seasoning afterwards. Never and I mean Never let air dry after hand drying put the Cast Iron in a hot oven, or back on the hot grill to dry. Good luck and have fun! :)
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Thanks for the replies,,,,
I was afraid the sauerkraut might eat up my newly seasoned pot cooking for 3 hours, so I am using a couple glass dishes. I didn't want to take a chance of the food tasting metallic or have to start over seasoning. Maybe when the pot gets some age to it and seasoning gets built up a little more I will try it.
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Lodge recommends building up the seasoning before cooking acid foods.
https://www.lodgemfg.com/use-and-care/seasoned-cast-iron-use-and-care.asp
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I agree never use soap after the first cleaning..I clean with salt, water and a foil ball then dry with heat. I never had a problem. I make chilli in mine all the time camping and never have a problem with it. They make a paper liner for them at walmart that you may want to try if you are afraid.
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@Harleysmoker Thought you may like this... as well as other WKC members that use Cast Iron
http://www.castironcollector.com/unmarked.php
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@Harleysmoker Thought you may like this... as well as other WKC members that use Cast Iron
http://www.castironcollector.com/unmarked.php
Cool site just looked my skillet up. Was made in the 60s..in Ohio
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@Shoestringshop thanks for the link, lots of good information there!
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I recommend Crisco, pork or beef fat for seasoning. Coat the pan with a very thin layer. Wipe off as much excess as possible, turn the pan upside down and bake in the oven at 450-500 for an hour, turn off the oven and leave the pan in there and let it cool down in the oven. Repeat 4-5 times until you get a good solid seasoning.
If you research it online you will probably stumble into a very authoritative sounding article that insists flaxseed oil is the best seasoning oil. I tried it on one of our skillets. Was a complete waste of time. Seasoning comes off with every cook. Animal based fats have been the most consistent performer for me.
Lodge also makes a seasoning oil if you want to order that online. It's a seed oil base, and I have never used it, but I have heard good things about it from DO cooks.
We have an old Wagner skillet and several Lodge DOs that we cook with all the time.
In fact the camp DO my wife got me for my birthday last year is what rekindled my interest in charcoal cooking.
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I heard about the flaxseed method, intrigued, but couldn't justify the cost and it isn't stable (requires refrigeration & air tight)
YMMV, brands too, but I've used Louana coconut oil exclusively with excellent result. Warm/soften first (it cools/sets solid like butter)
Also you don't have to worry about it going rancid like other fats/oils. Despite it has higher smoke point than most oils; 350-400 is my preferred seasoning temp.
And store your CI with sheets of newspaper (or cardboard cuts) below & between them.
Good opinion:
http://wellnessmama.com/36721/season-cast-iron-pans/ (http://wellnessmama.com/36721/season-cast-iron-pans/)
Enjoy
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Also, anytime you "change" the seasoning type, in order to actually get whatever the benefit or characteristic of the different oil, you have to remove all of the existing seasoning ... highest heat and take everything off, right down to the light gray metal and then immediately coat with oil and begin seasoning before too much air gets to it.
So when you buy a new Lodge for example, it doesn't really matter what oil you use; you're still bound by what Lodge seasoned it with unless it becomes rusty. Everything else will either come off or give various lubrication results and still not stay on as well as it might otherwise, if it were the only oil on the metal.
Yes about flaxseed oil insofar as the refrigerated kind is what to use (NOT the stuff sitting out on the shelf sold at the health food store). Unfiltered, high lignon ... but a waste of time and money in some cases. I have some bought at Whole Foods, their "365" brand, best used by Aug 2015 but still fine. Although it has a flip-top, it's actually sealed, kinda like some of the newer ketchups that have a membrane in the lid. So you squeeze it out through the membrane's slit, not pour.
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Excellent point about "change" I've always Hot Soapy scrub when I acquired CI & before started my seasoning
(perhaps that has been enough.)
Thanks, I checked a couple places but never thought about Whole Food$ having the "practical for cast iron" type of FSO,
I may re-season a couple pieces soon & will give that Flax a try.
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@Metal Mike @Harleysmoker - My Great-Great Aunt crochets and I asked her to crochet a circle with yarn to fit inside the Cast Iron. It works great!!! Keeps the pans separated and any moisture will be absorbed into the crocheted circle.
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q628/dan96/crochet%20circle%20with%20yarn%2001_zpsr6ycpeyd.jpg) (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/dan96/media/crochet%20circle%20with%20yarn%2001_zpsr6ycpeyd.jpg.html)
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q628/dan96/crochet%20circle%20with%20yarn%2002_zps9che0irm.jpg) (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/dan96/media/crochet%20circle%20with%20yarn%2002_zps9che0irm.jpg.html)
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@Shoestringshop Those are a nice compliment to Any collection, will make a Sweet Heirloom & admirable how clean too.
Admittedly I don't thoroughly wipe all the char from the underside after each use & would have to stick with the folded newspaper(s) between...
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@Shoestringshop nice idea, I have been putting a kitchen towel in between my pans. Is your Aunt Colombian?
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@Harleysmoker nope German... didn't think of that :). The Colombia Flag ;)
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@Shoestringshop my wife is Colombian is why I asked,,,all good
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Wow sa!! tons of info - thanks for all the replies and insight. I am just getting into the CI realm - planning on doing more while traveling in motor-home. I will digest all that is here - thanks to all!!