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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: Hogsy on June 15, 2015, 03:29:34 PM
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I found this pipe in someone's kerb side trash last week and thought it might make for a cheap vortex
I had to cut it down to fit between the two gates and grind the paint off
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/7DD0F3F7-7699-452B-A5CC-54E41A1B0E29_zpsonzex9dg.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/7DD0F3F7-7699-452B-A5CC-54E41A1B0E29_zpsonzex9dg.jpg.html)
I fired up a chimney and filled the pipe, it worked great and sent the needle off the chart
Being a clean freak I added some exp mesh so I can shake it out after use and not loose any charcoal
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/FBD5858E-8ED8-4478-A468-E6D16CE67250_zps0cuiy7ce.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/FBD5858E-8ED8-4478-A468-E6D16CE67250_zps0cuiy7ce.jpg.html)
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/5B7C296D-A435-49B5-97A6-38A9AF0FE66C_zpsg9ld96xg.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/5B7C296D-A435-49B5-97A6-38A9AF0FE66C_zpsg9ld96xg.jpg.html)
I've never used the vortex but would this give similar results? Is there any benefit in the cone shape of the vortex? How do you regulate the temp with the vortex... Vents or amount of lit charcoal?
I'll fire it up tonight and test it out with some food
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I would assume that the idea behind the vortex is to increase the temp or focus the heat and if you have increased the heat then you may be alright.
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I can't see the pics since my work blocks photobucket. But check out the vortex page on Facebook to see the different methods it can be used. Here's a link to the albums page: https://www.facebook.com/vortexchimney/photos_stream?tab=photos_albums
@Hogsy the shape is the key.
When wanting blazing hot sear-zone: Narrow end up, Fill up and sear directly over flame.
When wanting high-heat Indirect: Narrow end up, Fill up and place meat around perimeter (really awesome method for chicken/chicken wings)
When wanting low/slow Indirect: Wide end up, snake/minion coals around it. The shape of the cone then deflects heat away from centered meat
When wanting what I'm calling 'Infrared': Wide end up, place whole bird inside Vortex and place lit coals all around it. The Vortex protects the meat from burning while applying whatever your preferred heat-level is.
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Thanks for the explanation @THUNDERDOME , I guess I've just made a round charcoal basket then😃
Works well though, sits over the G.A nicely and is easy to move to the centre when the coals are ready
Cooked some wings last night
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/711A9224-B9BF-4E63-83ED-B17981254819_zpszf1lcvsc.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/711A9224-B9BF-4E63-83ED-B17981254819_zpszf1lcvsc.jpg.html)
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/D99D90BA-9F54-4A2A-8F26-4C4874294B34_zpsx2cqxzpk.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/D99D90BA-9F54-4A2A-8F26-4C4874294B34_zpsx2cqxzpk.jpg.html)
What do you use for drip trays when using the Vortex?
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I made a home made vortex using an old water pan that began to rust through. A few snips around the base and we have:
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a637/phillyc0wb0y/37F8D8C8-90F5-4C72-8CC2-27C48F410CFE_zpsdztjnfgt.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/phillyc0wb0y/media/37F8D8C8-90F5-4C72-8CC2-27C48F410CFE_zpsdztjnfgt.jpg.html)
direct sear these rib eyes in 2 min each side to get to 135
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a637/phillyc0wb0y/652E6E8E-72E8-4AB3-8614-CF2F48314816_zpsuxjmi1ao.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/phillyc0wb0y/media/652E6E8E-72E8-4AB3-8614-CF2F48314816_zpsuxjmi1ao.jpg.html)
indirect wings were very nicely crisped in about 45 min
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a637/phillyc0wb0y/1CC63FE9-7056-4DF7-AFFF-23B2D981F9E8_zpsytuk0na0.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/phillyc0wb0y/media/1CC63FE9-7056-4DF7-AFFF-23B2D981F9E8_zpsytuk0na0.jpg.html)
used both direct and indirect at the same time for surf & turf
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a637/phillyc0wb0y/42E3B5A0-787E-4405-B820-C9DF5555AABC_zpsfg4czm75.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/phillyc0wb0y/media/42E3B5A0-787E-4405-B820-C9DF5555AABC_zpsfg4czm75.jpg.html)
Inverted, I can even fit two birds in my homemade vortex while the smaller one can only fit one! I sat an 18" grate on top and moved the birds up a bit to crisp up the skin.
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a637/phillyc0wb0y/DD0D3908-82AF-4D6A-9C16-851650D1DE6E_zps4m393nq9.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/phillyc0wb0y/media/DD0D3908-82AF-4D6A-9C16-851650D1DE6E_zps4m393nq9.jpg.html)
All in all the vortex is a nice addition to your toys and a snap to make at home!!
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@phillyc0wb0y
Is that a pan from an ECB (El Cheapo Binkman)?
If so, I have a few that I've used for ash pans on various kettles that worked hard......one of them has a small hole in the bottom...... 8)
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@Hogsy that's awesome - that looks like a hunk of new water main. i've been thinking about talking to our water department for a scrap chunk when they have a short cut-off. it looks like it works great!
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Thanks @effinUker . I was surprised how hot it got and stayed that way for ages
I think that it will work well in the 26er and I'm hoping the ranch too
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that reminds me of something @1buckie shared with the bretheren back in march. i can't find the post, but i found my notes. hopefully he'll remember and chime in here.
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that reminds me of something @1buckie shared with the bretheren back in march. i can't find the post, but i found my notes. hopefully he'll remember and chime in here.
It might be this:
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Cookers%202012/IMG_6182.jpg)
(from Awning Guy of Smoke Ring, who is also the guy that coined the phrase: "Don't worry, you're still 4 or 5 kettles away from being "That creepy guy down the street with all the Webers....."')
it's in a post from @BBcue-Z the skewer master......
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/grilling-bbqing/cooking-with-the-chimney-inside/msg149800/#msg149800
most of the way down.....and there's a link to a post by @Cookingmama that has more pics.....
(tagging these people also, 'cause I miss them when they're not around !!!)
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@1buckie - yup, that's what i was thinking of. that looks like an indirect cooking beast. i bet once it you get it to your temp it'll ride all day!
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@phillyc0wb0y
Is that a pan from an ECB (El Cheapo Binkman)?
If so, I have a few that I've used for ash pans on various kettles that worked hard......one of them has a small hole in the bottom...... 8)
Yes it is @1buckie! Go for it! You won't be sorry!
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@phillyc0wb0y
Is that a pan from an ECB (El Cheapo Binkman)?
If so, I have a few that I've used for ash pans on various kettles that worked hard......one of them has a small hole in the bottom...... 8)
Yes it is @1buckie! Go for it! You won't be sorry!
Thanks man !!!!
These home made ones I imagine will work pretty good, but the angle of the manufactured one looks to me to be also pretty well thought out........maybe work a little more efficiently / effectively?
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seems like an effectively just a way to concentrate/deflect heat (+ added metal mass to hold temp?)
I've just stepped from the 18 to 22 & back for this effect, though I'm never opposed to more toys...
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Don't get me wrong, the ones that are on the market are solid products and I would actually have purchased one had I not stumbled onto this. I know a few guys that have purchased one and they love it.
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I have a medium vortex and just ordered a small, plus another medium for my dad. At $30 something bucks, it isn't cheap, but it's extremely high quality, heavy gauge stainless steel.
If you want to get one, I would recommend the small for use in the 18" and 22" - my medium is a little too big for the 18" kettle, but the small will work fine in the 22". I'm a really big fan - if you are on the fence, I think it's a worthwhile accessory.
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Me gusto,
Just a coffee can & tin snips...
vortex proof of concept
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K4qNVL0BvdGJbG1dyK1Pq7GfOIagLifQ5xu4ZATkOUc=w666-h923-no)
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Wondering if anyone has used the outside part of a two piece angel food cake pan as a vortex. I have a nonstick surface one that I never really use any more, and am thinking of lighting it up as a vortex.
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Wondering if anyone has used the outside part of a two piece angel food cake pan as a vortex. I have a nonstick surface one that I never really use any more, and am thinking of lighting it up as a vortex.
Umm, most on here including myself are a bunch of dudes and will have to google what a 2 piece angel food cake pan looks like. [emoji12]
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If it's non-stick I wouldn't use it as a charcoal holder.
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If it's non-stick I wouldn't use it as a charcoal holder.
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Why not, what will happen? Will the finish just burn off?
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I'm no metallurgist but I'd think you would introduce toxic gases in your cooking chamber. Safer bet would be to find one made of stainless steel.
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Wow, wasn't thinking about that.. I also have a plain uncoated one I could use. I think it is aluminum. Would that be ok?
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I wouldn't recommend it after reading this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer_fume_fever
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Thank you for that. Definitely won't be using that as a vortex. I will look for the stainless bowl and have my hubby cut the bottom off for me.