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Title: Newb chimney question..
Post by: EricD on May 19, 2015, 09:15:36 AM
What do you guys use to start your charcoal.   I've been using a chimney stuffed with a couple pages of newspaper.  It works well, but.....I get a ton of smoke pouring out of it.  I assume it's the newspaper.  It's not that bad, I'm just wondering if you guys have another method that works well.
Thanks, Eric
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Jeep on May 19, 2015, 09:23:25 AM
Weber starter cubes... $3-4 bucks for a 24 pack.  Pop it under your chimney.

http://www.amazon.com/Weber-7417-FireStarters-Lighter-Cubes/dp/B001AN7RGG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1432056361&sr=8-1&keywords=weber+cubes

Easy as PI.

-Jeep
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on May 19, 2015, 09:26:07 AM
I like the Weber 7417 starter cubes too. Directions say to use two but many times you only need one. Available lots of places, and leaves pretty much nothing behind afterwards. They stay lit long enough to get the job done. Don't confuse them with crayons or candle wax, which only melt.

http://www.amazon.com/Weber-7417-FireStarters-Lighter-Cubes/dp/B001AN7RGG

Some other (gas) options for using with your chimney:
Weber Performer
a gas grill's side burner
a turkey fryer's base unit (in other words a standalone, larger burner ...)
a weed burner/LP tank with the chimney propped up on cinder blocks

You'll see these pictured here if you run a search.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: pbe gummi bear on May 19, 2015, 09:44:01 AM
I have good results with the weber firestarter wax cubes. My only gripe about them is that the packaging is cheesy. They are in a thermoformed tray with a foil backing that you pop the cube out off. The foil is super flimsy and breaks apart after minor handling. I usually cut the tray into 4 3x2 packs and place them into a ziploc to make handling them easier/cleaner.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: MINIgrillin on May 19, 2015, 10:04:23 AM
Pubic cubes.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Troy on May 19, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
I make my own starters with dryer lint, empty egg cartons, and paraffin wax.

If i'm all out I'll use a paper towel with a bit of canola oil.

Newspaper makes smoke and leaves weird floaty ash.

The smoke may be coming from the charcoal too... Kingsford makes lots of nasty white smoke while its starting to ignite.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Josh G on May 19, 2015, 10:48:45 AM
I never need more than one cube.  I hate using the newspaper.  Apparently Doritos work well but no one on here has any to spare.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: pbe gummi bear on May 19, 2015, 10:52:40 AM

If i'm all out I'll use a paper towel with a bit of canola oil.


This works very well at the slight drawback of oil drippings being a little messier. One of these days I'll get our of those food service squirt bottles to use strictly for supplying the oil to the paper towel.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: heart of coal on May 19, 2015, 11:30:31 AM
i like newspaper.  it's free for the most part.  i spray a streak of oil on it as a "candle".  the smoke doesnt bother me.  it's like an announcement to the neighbors to get their noses ready for some good smells.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: WNC on May 19, 2015, 03:20:54 PM
I used to just use the charcoal bag as I went, but I've been using coshell and the bag seems less like natural paper so I've switched to three crumpled up paper towels drizzled with oil, works great.

I'm with others on the weird ash newspaper leaves, so I don't use that anymore.

Also, thinking about using Troy's method of the homemade firestarter
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Jason on May 19, 2015, 03:54:59 PM
I have used the brown paper grocery bags with great success. I tear them in half, then tear three equal pieces out of that, crumple them up and stuff under the chimney. I have never needed any oil to git er done. I only use HALF of a bag per chimney, so get two starts out of one bag. "Slightly" less ash chaos, compared to newspaper!

Now I pretty much only use the gas assist on my Performer... ;D
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: EricD on May 19, 2015, 05:52:46 PM
Thank you all. I think Im gonna get some Weber Firestarter cubes and work on Troy's homemade ones too.
@Troy, Do you have a pic or 'recipe'? how much do you fill the egg carton?
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: toolhead on May 19, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
Used to use newspaper...same issues..lots of smoke..nownuse gas assist...no mess and another toy to play with.

If i didnt have gas assist..being cheap..would go back to any paper lying around including newspaper or charcoal bags
Title: Newb chimney question..
Post by: blksabbath on May 19, 2015, 06:07:41 PM
Two pieces of newspaper. Not one nor three.  Avoid the colors, stay black and white.  One other little thing, only do half the chimney then top up...that worked for me.

Now its all gas assist on my performer and i love it.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: mrbill on May 19, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
when using the performer, I take advantage of the gas assist and use that to start the chimney. when not using the performer, 1 weber cube under the chimney does the trick unless the wind is blowing too much. when there is too much wind for just the cube- I give the coals a very short squirt of lighter fluid over the coals(in the chimney). by very short I mean super quick squeeze on the bottle(just enough for a mist to hit the coals). let it soak in for about 2minutes and then fire up a cube underneath. once the chimney is going, let the fire go until there is no more petroleum smell to the fire and the coals are not producing any discernible smoke. once that happens, empty the chimney and carry on.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: MINIgrillin on July 15, 2015, 11:46:52 AM
I ran out of cubes and was looking for a substitute. I had rubbing alcohol and cotton balls on hand. Placed the cotton on top of a piece of lump and soaked em. Worked great..no odd taste or funky smells.

Been using this for a while. Haven't seen the need to buy starter cubes.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Matt_T on July 15, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
Weber Cubes - Brown paper bag pieces with a touch of oil - paper towel with a touch of oil

@Troy can you make 24+ for less than $3? If so start talking...I'll listen
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Red Kettle Rich on July 15, 2015, 03:58:30 PM
Way back wwhen, before I had "real" chimney and used a modded 3 pound coffee can, I would fill a baby food jar with kerosene and put in one briquet to soak.  When I wanted charcoal I would put the soaked briq below the grid in the "chimney" - by the time the coals in the an were lit, all the kerosene and petro smell had burnt off.

now I use weber cubes or a MAPP torch 8)
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: stubblebum on July 15, 2015, 04:56:26 PM
I usually use the gas assist on my performer but used to use newspaper or the charcoal bag. I didn't like the ash that floated around when using newspaper. Lately I have been using 3-4 briquettes of Matchlight on the bottom of chimney. I got a couple small bags of it free with craigslist kettle acquisitions and am trying to use it up. I still use the gas assist for a very short time. I have been thinking I should try to see if the 3-4 briquettes would light stat lit  with just a match or lighter.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: 1buckie on July 15, 2015, 06:40:34 PM
I ran out of cubes and was looking for a substitute. I had rubbing alcohol and cotton balls on hand. Placed the cotton on top of a piece of lump and soaked em. Worked great..no odd taste or funky smells.

Been using this for a while. Haven't seen the need to buy starter cubes.

198 Proof.....no waiting....

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Veg%20cook%207-10-2011/VegQ7-10-2011001.jpg)
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Metal Mike on July 16, 2015, 12:53:35 PM
I try match-light coals in my chimney.

Melted the cheap base rivets...
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: stubblebum on July 16, 2015, 02:22:33 PM
I try match-light coals in my chimney.

Melted the cheap base rivets...

Metal Mike

I only use 3 briquettes to start and sustain the fire. The rest of the chimney is Royal Oak, Stubbs, or Kingsford briquettes, or lump charcoal, depending on what I have and what I am cooking. As I said, it was free and using it as starter "cubes" is my way of getting rid of it.

Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: CCP Performer on July 16, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
I use the performer gas assist now that it's fully functional. When it wasn't or when I was using the SJ, I would use a simple propane torch, the kind that attaches to a disposable 1lb tank. I'd burn the bottom coals for about 30-45 seconds then hit 2 sides opposite each other through one of the vent holes about 30 seconds each. It works pretty well to get them going enough and that torch finds many other uses around the house.  I should add that I have a chest high concrete paver patio light tower to sit the chimney on which made it easier since I didn't have to hold it in the air to light it, I could just let part of the chimney overhang the paver brick. After those couple minutes I would just place on the charcoal grate and it was ready in about 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Bob R on July 18, 2015, 09:57:08 PM
I love the Weber Cubes. I have never used more than one. I place 1 Cube in a Tuna Fish can, and light it with a match. Set the Chimney over it, and off it goes.
I store my cubes in a plastic storage box abovt the size of a tennis shoe box, with a box of matchs.
The price is cheap, between $3.29 and $4.99 depending on where you buy them, for a 24 pack.

Bob
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: Jacmac422 on July 20, 2015, 05:40:30 PM
I really love the weber fire starters.  Has anyone tried the Stok chimney?  It has a battery powered fan to stoke the coals.
Title: Re: Newb chimney question..
Post by: hoss8640 on July 21, 2015, 06:13:50 PM
I'm gonna have to find some of the cubes and try those. I keep using newspaper but everyone is raving about the cubes


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