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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: dwnthehatch on May 04, 2015, 02:33:39 PM
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Since the other thread is about a SS performer, I thought I would make a thread about the 2015 Lid Bale on my 13 Performer Platinum.
I went to True Value during my lunch break to take some measurements of the bowl holes before buying the parts from Weber.
While I was there an older gentleman was purchasing a black performer premium to compliment his BGE. He mentioned he wished they came in green. As luck would have it, I had a like new spare green bowl and lid that I just cleaned and pulled off of my performer. I asked if he was willing to trade. He thought about it and said yes, as long as I put his performer together for him. I was smiling ear to ear. I mentioned that the Lid Bale on the new performers are different than the one on my green kettle and don't open as wide. He was fine with it. I took the rest of the day off and assembled his grill.
Once I got home I assembled the Lid Bale on my 13 platinum.
Pic of the 2013 Lid Bale
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3261_zps4zstrbud.jpg)
Pic of the 2015 Lid Bale
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3263_zps7bppj8ql.jpg)
Lid Bale comparison
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3264_zpslyuqdl7v.jpg)
Lid Bale comparison
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3265_zpsvgdvxt09.jpg)
The new rollers are longer
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3266_zpsnsqlefqk.jpg)
Done
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3268_zps3fuymhwk.jpg)
Proper installation of Lid Bale
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3274_zpsttcjhnbo.jpg)
Note that the Lid Bale wire is not perfectly horizontal anymore.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3270_zpsjnntjufx.jpg)
While I was at it, I installed the metal table I bought a few weeks ago.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3271_zpsfn1h6xlq.jpg)
New(extremely thin) cover.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3272_zpslrgoorww.jpg)
Comparison
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3260_zpsmjs7mkhj.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/dwnthehatch/WKC/IMG_3268_zps3fuymhwk.jpg)
I'm happy with the results. Thank you to @ClubChapin for letting us know it fits.
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Nice looking performer. I really need to find a color other than black.
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How do you like the lid hook, is it a pain to make sure you land on it? Any possible scratching? Thanks.
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Super write up. I am sold on the new bail I guess, but I am not sure I like the lid hook. Seems like it will be a danger to the rim.
Also: http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/
I think I remember reading here the bail vs. bale discussion. I think it is "bail" in this regard even though I typically go with "bale".
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Deleted content. Corrected installation.
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Your lid bale is is installed differently than the instructions call for. It will work differently with the hook in a different orientation. Initially, I installed it the same way.
See here:
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/Assembly-Instructions/English/Weber_Performer_Deluxe_Charcoal_Grill.pdf (http://www.crateandbarrel.com/Assembly-Instructions/English/Weber_Performer_Deluxe_Charcoal_Grill.pdf)
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Your lid bail is is installed differently than the instructions call for. It will work differently with the hook in a different orientation. Initially, I installed it the same way.
See here:
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/Assembly-Instructions/English/Weber_Performer_Deluxe_Charcoal_Grill.pdf (http://www.crateandbarrel.com/Assembly-Instructions/English/Weber_Performer_Deluxe_Charcoal_Grill.pdf)
Thanks. I initially installed it like that and the handle hit the rim due to the old style handle orientation so I flipped it. I should have read the instructions but didn't want to lose 50 man points.
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Edited to show proper orientation of the Lid Bale support. After I fully tightened the Lid Bale support completely there is about 1/4" gap between the handle lid holder wire. No more contact.
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I'm confused. Where is the potential scraping? On lid rim or bowl rim, and where/when?
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Thanks. I initially installed it like that and the handle hit the rim due to the old style handle orientation so I flipped it. I should have read the instructions but didn't want to lose 50 man points.
The funny thing is that the instructions included with my 2015 Bale were for the older Bales and not applicable to this particular part.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/2015-05-04%2019.22.27%20Medium_zpspe5lmzod.jpg) (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/Chapin_Place/media/Weber/2015-05-04%2019.22.27%20Medium_zpspe5lmzod.jpg.html)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/2015-05-04%2019.22.35%20Medium_zpsrrbvazvz.jpg) (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/Chapin_Place/media/Weber/2015-05-04%2019.22.35%20Medium_zpsrrbvazvz.jpg.html)
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Also: http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/ (http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/)
I think I remember reading here the bail vs. bale discussion. I think it is "bail" in this regard even though I typically go with "bale".
I'm sticking with "Bale".
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/Bale_zps6j0xmeuv.jpg) (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/Chapin_Place/media/Weber/Bale_zps6j0xmeuv.jpg.html)
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Also: http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/ (http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/)
I think I remember reading here the bail vs. bale discussion. I think it is "bail" in this regard even though I typically go with "bale".
I'm sticking with "Bale".
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/Bale_zps6j0xmeuv.jpg) (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/Chapin_Place/media/Weber/Bale_zps6j0xmeuv.jpg.html)
Good idea. I am going to bail on the topic!
I call it a bale and weber calls it a bale and you call it a bale and everyone here calls it a bale but it still might be a bail.
bail
noun
1 a :a supporting half hoop
b :a hinged bar for holding paper against the platen of a typewriter
2 :a usually arched handle (as of a kettle or pail)
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Also: http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/ (http://grammarist.com/spelling/bail-bale/)
I think I remember reading here the bail vs. bale discussion. I think it is "bail" in this regard even though I typically go with "bale".
I'm sticking with "Bale".
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/Bale_zps6j0xmeuv.jpg) (http://s1123.photobucket.com/user/Chapin_Place/media/Weber/Bale_zps6j0xmeuv.jpg.html)
Good idea. I am going to bail on the topic!
I call it a bale and weber calls it a bale and you call it a bale and everyone here calls it a bale but it still might be a bail.
bail
noun
1 a :a supporting half hoop
b :a hinged bar for holding paper against the platen of a typewriter
2 :a usually arched handle (as of a kettle or pail)
Wait a minute @G$ "a usually arched handle (as of a kettle)"?
You, of all people should know a handle is not a bale.....
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/i-gotta-vent-but-i-can-handle-it/msg73584/#msg73584
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I'm confused. Where is the potential scraping? On lid rim or bowl rim, and where/when?
No potential of scraping if installed correctly.
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nice bayle!
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Got it now. Could baley understand before.
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Wow, you've really got me thinking/dreaming, @dwnthehatch ! So much so that I'm seriously considering making my own cover for my SS. With that in mind, could you take a measurement of the gap between your bowl and the apex of the new bale and let me know?
Also, does anyone have the part number for the 2015 bale? I seem to remember it showing up in this forum, but my search skilz are weak.
EDIT: Sorry to rattle your cage, Hatch. I just found the thread, which included the new part number (#65188) and the measurement of the new bale ( +2 inches).
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/2015-lid-bale-on-ss-perf/
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EDIT: Sorry to rattle your cage, Hatch. I just found the thread, which included the new part number (#65188) and the measurement of the new bale ( +2 inches)
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I think it may be an additional 2". I'm away,but can measure next week.
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@mike.stavlund Sorry for the delay. I was just about to measure it but it looks like you found what you needed.
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Yes I did, and I will also have my very own 65188 in a few days to make my own comparisons. ;-)
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I am SO happy with this upgrade (though it'll take me about a year to get over that reflexive freakout when the lid tips past where I'm expecting it to rest).
One of the things that I don't think the designers of the SS Performers anticipated was the chimney starter, which rests right underneath the open lid. I've seen a few SSes with heat damage right there, so this is a great improvement. Plus it's a lot easier to get grates and food on and off.
The difference in the gap is just under two inches, but that's plenty of room to make all the difference. Now to sew my own custom cover to keep this all out of the weather. Wish me luck...
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/934d111863d68b779cb6eff198acbb95.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/81a53961f427e892edef952b116c9f68.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/8a7faad15d19d984a6277e3475b4d944.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/4d849373da28e2585369d74822c35d3e.jpg)
PS. I was in such a hurry that I put those rollers on backwards... I'll fix that as soon as the grill cools down.
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noob question: where did you get your 2015 metal table and how much was it?
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Here's the goods from Gunner.....
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/metal-performer-table-upgrade/msg139491/#msg139491
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Argh! I called Weber and asked to buy the new bale. I was told it was not compatible with my grill, and they could not sell it to me!
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Argh! I called Weber and asked to buy the new bale. I was told it was not compatible with my grill, and they could not sell it to me!
@mfridman
They're just like the IRS......call back at a different time of day, a few days later & quite possibly get a better answer.... 8)
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Don't ask to order the new lid bale. Just order by part #.