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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: LightningBoldtz on February 18, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
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I found this on Facebook
Looks very cool
http://www.ardentgoods.com/ (http://www.ardentgoods.com/)
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and stinkin' expensive...... :)
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Looks well constructed. Rediculous pricy tho. I wonder if he would consider selling the plans.
Hmm...no place to put lid.
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I like @Marty s Smokey Joe table better, but it is good to see new aftermarket options out there
Winz
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Those are very nice but those prices are nuts.
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I can't tell but it looks like a combination of cedar wood and composite decking wood.
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Hi all, I'm Carl, one of the owners of Ardent Goods. First, thank you @LightningBoldtz for sharing our post here. To answer a few questions: The Line Cook and Executive Chef units are both made from Meranti Mahogany and Western Red Cedar (top/floor and frame/sides, respectively). The Short Order Cook is Meranti Mahogany and Douglas Fir. At this point, we aren't selling the plans. We have focused on the design, engineering and tooling with the goal being a business selling furniture. But, the business is always evolving, so you never know. For lid storage, the Executive Chef has a tool rack that the lid can hang on, the Line Cook works well with a hinge from www.unknownbbq.com but doesn't have its own hanging option (yet), and the Short Order Cook allows the lid to be propped on the handle of the cart.
We are avid grillers, and we started this venture because 10 years ago I built a similar grill station after being frustrated with the lack of work area and storage around my three legged friend (which is now 30 years old!). That original unit is still going strong but our new designs take it to the next level. And the Short Order Cook has been a game changer - my Smokey Joe is now in active use and great for smaller cooks.
If you have any more questions, hit me up.
Carl
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@cscholz Very high quality, you do excellent work. Good luck on your business.
I saw on facebook that you are looking to do a setup for WSM too, we have a few WSM guys here who have done some work with recycles performer setups.
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That explains the price. Quality woods there sir!
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Hi all, I'm Carl, one of the owners of Ardent Goods. First, thank you @LightningBoldtz for sharing our post here. To answer a few questions: The Line Cook and Executive Chef units are both made from Meranti Mahogany and Western Red Cedar (top/floor and frame/sides, respectively). The Short Order Cook is Meranti Mahogany and Douglas Fir. At this point, we aren't selling the plans. We have focused on the design, engineering and tooling with the goal being a business selling furniture. But, the business is always evolving, so you never know. For lid storage, the Executive Chef has a tool rack that the lid can hang on, the Line Cook works well with a hinge from www.unknownbbq.com but doesn't have its own hanging option (yet), and the Short Order Cook allows the lid to be propped on the handle of the cart.
We are avid grillers, and we started this venture because 10 years ago I built a similar grill station after being frustrated with the lack of work area and storage around my three legged friend (which is now 30 years old!). That original unit is still going strong but our new designs take it to the next level. And the Short Order Cook has been a game changer - my Smokey Joe is now in active use and great for smaller cooks.
If you have any more questions, hit me up.
Carl
Avid griller, eh! Stick around and hang out.
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Tables look great.... ;D
Anybody that does this:
"This Week’s Food Story
Atomic Buffalo Turds (ABTs)"
.............is OK by me !!!!
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Looks like they're really high quality, but that price tag, holy crap. You could buy a performer for half that price. I understand its kind of different markets but daaayyyyuuummmm
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I want to know how the kettles are attached to those things? do you have to drill the kettles?
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I want to know how the kettles are attached to those things? do you have to drill the kettles?
Looking at some of the pics I don't think you have to drill, it looks like it is some sort of L hook that goes under the lip of the lower bowl.
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I want to know how the kettles are attached to those things? do you have to drill the kettles?
Looking at some of the pics I don't think you have to drill, it looks like it is some sort of L hook that goes under the lip of the lower bowl.
Actually they are here, some of the pics show the L clips.
http://www.ardentgoods.com/product/line-cook-kit/
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The kettles are held in place primarily with L clips that I sourced. For the larger models holding 22.5", the L clips are backed by aluminum bar stock as a support. The combination holds the kettle very securely with no movement and the brackets are adjustable so you can fit your (slightly out of round) kettle in.
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Looks like they're really high quality, but that price tag, holy crap.
Agreed, and you still need to buy the kettle on top of the cart price :o
Quality looks top notch but for the price of the master chef cart and a kettle you can buy 3 brand new performers at full retail.
Again, great looking product but it almost goes against the whole philosophy behind cooking on a Weber kettle IMO.
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And you can buy 3 Cadillacs for the price of a Ferrari. It is what it is and some folks can afford it. I personally feel a stab in the heart when I pay retail for anything, but folks pay out the nose for custom outdoor kitchens and this dude looks like he has his eye on that market.
I applaud you sir for taking your grillfella ingenuity and going for it. I sincerely hope you sell a crap load of em. If you have one that gets damaged in shipping please PM me...I'll take it...on a discount.
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Perhaps, but a Ferrari can do a lot of things that a Cadillac can't. ;)
I'm not hating at all, just offering my humble opinion. The product itself looks excellent.
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@SixZeroFour Can I quote that comparison to a Ferrari in our literature?? :D Any press is good press ... Thanks.
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Any chance you will be making one for the 26.75" kettles?
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Any chance you will be making one for the 26.75" kettles?
I saw one from facebook that he was making for WSM but yes a 26 would be amazing esp considering how man have wanted a 26 performer for some time.
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I know people that would just have to have something like this.
I am not one of them, but I know that there is a market. cscholz, I hope that you reach your customer base, your product is beautiful.
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Those look incredible! Very nice. I've got performers but would've liked one for my kamodo. For wsm is a great idea too.
Are the doors on one or both sides? It would be nice to have doors on both sides, allowing either RH or LH operation.
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I think Chuck is on to something. All of the product for outdoor kitchens is for gassers. Had I known about this company a few months ago before I took the plunge and built my own (see my post history for pics), I would have seriously considered buying one. The price is not cheap but in line with what you would pay on an outdoor kitchen build, though seems not a lot more surface area than a standard performer until you get up into the top of the line model. They use quality wood and there is something to be said for a pre-engineered solution, a lot of folks overlook the time that takes and the investment in the tooling required.
One thing that would be good to offer with this would be a cover; I was surprised how much I ended up paying for a custom cover but there may be economies of scale in a manufacturing situation.
I look forward to following this product line.
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And you can buy 3 Cadillacs for the price of a Ferrari.
But a Ferrari also gives you performance improvements, and modern tech/materials over a Cadillac. The cost equation of a Ferarri vs a Cadillac makes sense. I don't think its a fair analogy.
Listen I totally give it to these guys that these look wonderfully made, and seem to be using high quality wood. At their price point though I'm stuck wondering what about it is worth more than double that of the best performer.
I totally understand that engineering time went into it, and the quality of the materials is really high, but that price point still makes me go daaayyyyyuuummmmm.
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@jmbaute Thanks for the thoughtful post - we've had many of the same thoughts as we formed the company. A cover is something we're considering once the volume picks up more. At this point, my grill stations stay outside uncovered year round including being covered in the 5-6 feet of snow we've gotten this winter! There have been no ill affects - the wood just weathers naturally.
A version of the Line Cook or the Executive Chef for the 26.75" is an interesting idea. We didn't start there because there are so many more 22.5"ers in the market already. But the fact that there's no Performer for the 26.75" might make it a nice gap filler for the enthusiasts. Is there more interest in a smaller, open unit like the Line Cook or one with sides and doors?
The doors are only on one side but I like the idea of accommodating either LH or RH operation. Doors on both sides would add a bit more in cost. But, another option might be to just ask the buyer when they are ordering if they want a version for the grill on the left or on the right. Assembly for us would not differ much.
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PIC`S OF THE 26.75 DOUBLE PERFORMER ARE COMING (WAITING ON SOME SPECIAL ZAV`S HANDLES )
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I love the Smokey Joe table
It keeps calling me