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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: csorvala on October 06, 2014, 01:31:48 PM
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Went to pick up a 2-tone red and when I got there the wife told him to get rid of the roti in the basement too. He also trew in two wood tables, one on the grill and one new in box..... $40 for the grill, $20 for the roti and free wood tables that sell for %$75 on ebay..... FYI, I don't just buy webers when I see them, I also buy many other items that I ship to the rest of the world too.
Here is my google folder link for this pick up.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bys74G2IL7uUakNrdTBlby1OWHM&usp=sharing
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Was that the one in the Madison, WI CL? It did look very nice from the CL pictures.
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Nice score!
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What are your plans for these? Collecting? Very nice grab
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a two tone red MT is a rare thing?
mine just says "O".
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lol....Are you one of the stalkers I get on craigslist?.... I didn't even post it yet.
no clayton, i'm greg. i emailed you on craigslist. we made a deal for the metal handle red and i didn't get butthurt when you sold it on the bay for more. i was happy for you.
i'm sorry but don't want your red MT, i haven't even gotten around to cleaning mine up yet. i'm too busy experimenting with handles and flipping performers to WKC members for ridiculously good deals.
i just cleaned her O face, not too shabby. :)
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and just for the record, calling someone a stalker implies that you don't want the attention. i'm not being aggressive just pointing out the error in your insult. because people that don't want attention rarely make threads. :o
pics or it didn't happen by the way. :P
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What are your plans for these? Collecting? Very nice grab
Not collecting. I am not a collector. I cook, so I traded a couple other grills away for a black 26" and a q200 gas. I've always loved to grill, smoke and campfire cook, I just never did it on a weber before. Now I do.
I originally came to this website because I found the infamous "1969 The Custom" aka the meat grill and was looking for info on it (You can see it in the wkc grill gallery. I hunt, buy and sell many different types items. Weber grills just became another item. I usually list items on craigslist to see if there are any takers, but usually end up listing things on ebay. Almost Everybody here is very skilled in finding people selling them cheap on craigslist, so I don't post for-sale items here because too many people get mad.... Heck, I even get wkc moderators and members stalking my ebay and craigslist ads and harassing me over price.... Unfortunately, they are experienced find them cheap (Same as I do) and i am experienced at selling publicly...fyi, many other members resell grills here to, not just me...i digress
But my 4 biggest finds, and i mean largest monetary value, didn't even come from craigslist, they came from estate sales, rummage sales and flea markets. I might spend 100-300 a week on collectible items, but only 5-60 on a grill every 3rd week.
so these will probably be sold locally or craigslist or maybe ebay.
It wasn't a moderator, it was me - the owner.
"Harassment" is a stretch - Confrontation, sure. But it was more about questioning your intent, or at least, being concerned over your reputation.
Several members had already reached out to me about it.
One day there's a red mbh for $10. Two days later there's a red mbh for $200.
I think its pretty shitty, but that's just my personal opinion.
Plenty of members also flip, but they also pull favors for members, give back to the community and don't expect maximum and margins.
Their #1 priority is NOT profit.
You see, I do all this out of passion. This community is united by passion. It's a hobby. We love grills. We collect grills. We use grills.
Or at least, we enjoy the presence of other like minded individuals.
When people take advantage of that passion, it offends me. It offends me A LOT.
I put a lot of time and money into making this site. I've argued with my wife and have made, and continue to make countless financial sacrifices to maintain it.
I do it because it brings people together. Seeing all of the friendships created makes it all worth it.
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lol....Are you one of the stalkers I get on craigslist?.... I didn't even post it yet.
no clayton, i'm greg. i emailed you on craigslist. we made a deal for the metal handle red and i didn't get butthurt when you sold it on the bay for more. i was happy for you.
He made a deal with you, and then sold it on ebay for more anyway?
Deja vu, I heard the same shitty story on the meat grill. :(
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and these opinions, they're mine.
They're not a WKC ruling or anything.
This is me, and my opinion.
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You go Greg. That cleanup looks beauty. My reds just have letters too.
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I added this then deleted it cause maybe it is not my place I thought. Wrong. Now I put it back:
Csorvala - Do you seek to rub people the wrong way? If so you are doing a good job of it, if not then maybe you should leave.
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The reason I asked is depending on the prices If you are selling them (The grill, a shelf, and the roti) I would be at least interested in hearing a price. While I like to find things cheap, All three of those items I am looking to add to my cooking stable. I am only a mild collector, but I am looking for a red OTG or MT as well as a shelf and roti. All of the roti I have seen on ebay are hitting retail. No reason to pay that much since they still are available. The shelves are a little harder to come by. They have a certain amount of cool factor for me, but not huge to pay what they are fetching on ebay.
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lol....Are you one of the stalkers I get on craigslist?.... I didn't even post it yet.
no clayton, i'm greg. i emailed you on craigslist. we made a deal for the metal handle red and i didn't get butthurt when you sold it on the bay for more. i was happy for you.
He made a deal with you, and then sold it on ebay for more anyway?
Deja vu, I heard the same shitty story on the meat grill. :(
He made an offer, I didn't accept or decline, but within hours it sold on ebay where it was already listed.
There was no deal for the meat grill. It was a cash offer that they didn't want to bid on ebay and keep it private. I NEVER did accept it. I choose to take my meat grill because i thought it was worth more. Turns out I got a lot more for it....
I didn't take advantage of anyone????
cool.
not the same story I heard - but I'm no judge and I don't care enough to investigate :)
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If you want to see what this site should be about and is for a vast majority of us follow what lightning Boldt is doing on an almost daily basis. A true wkcer!! He's given more than he's taken for a long time.
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You can reinforce your philosophies all you want.
Making money doesn't make you good or evil. It just makes it look like you don't fit in here.
EBay feedback doesn't prove good character, it just proves that you don't have a clue about what this place is about.
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There is no profit from forum ad's here - they merely help partially repay what Troy goes out of pocket on to keep the site up and running. ::)
I think a lot of the frustration with your tactics is that you openly admit you're not that interested in collecting Weber's yet you come back whenever you find something new - ask for everyone's help, expertise and knowledge for the sole purpose of making max buck on eBay or via private sale. Yes, you absolutely have the "right" to do that - it's just not how the vast majority of members on this site operate and I think most see it as you simply using the forum and its members to make a quick buck.
Reputation is something earned - the fact that you have a thousand feedback on eBay really doesn't mean anything beyond the fact that you deliver the products as described. So far all we've seen here are a few questionable sales and a new post saying "Hey look how much I'm going to make THIS TIME". Essentially any involvement you've had with this site so far all leads back to a financial transaction or gain somehow on your part. Am I wrong?
It's all about perspective - and the view from this side of the glass isn't so hot if you know what I mean.
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WKC profit isnt part of the equation.
But for the sake of transparency...
Last time my wife reminded me of the math, I'm still several hundred in the red.
There are months where advertising 'profit' pays for the hosting though. The excess money usually goes into making some cool handles and stickers to GIVE AWAY to people who make the site better.
Friends profiting? That old chestnut.
Plenty of people here have earned some profits, and every one of them that I know of have committed far more than they've earned.
I'm glad you helped a member with a fireplace. Kudos for that. I'll take your word for it and silently hope that you continue to help people.
Cheers!
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Troy, again thanks for this site, that is out of your personal passion.
All I see is someone trying to profit from us, that do this as a hobby. The growth here is huge, thus how some have found this site, not always in the best interest, but personal gain. This all is IMPO. It is a Red MT, to some it is a personal want in there collecting. Don't tease it and then put it on Ebay or possibly make empty promises. Put it in the section designated to members for trade or sale with a price. It is evident, this item is not for a personal a collection, as noted, not a collector posting this.
Draw attention he has done... But remember, there are more of these and Roti's... Happy that you have the passion, just not for the same reasons a I.
I wish you well on your sale csorvala.
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I can see both sides and normally don't comment but I've had a few and thought why not😊
This community is still growing and learning the different eccentricities of different members and when someone new comes along with a different approach it takes a while for members to sus each other out. After all where on a forum and it's hard to appreciate where different folks are coming from.
I gotta say I'm surprised to see you back after the custom sale but am glad you are as it takes all types to make the world go round.
I remember when Harris first signed up and a few got their panties in a twist because he is like some sort of kettle magnet and seems to come up with these amazing finds that leave the rest of us thinking 'How the hell does he do it?'. But after a while everyone got use to his amazing knack of acquiring epic grills and learned to appreciate his time, effort and techniques of procuring kettles
As an international guest to this site I hope you hang around csorvala and continue to show your finds.
In saying that Red kettles are fairly common in OZ so what you do with yours doesn't affect me.
I'd also like to thank Troy who let's healthy debate continue on different matters without feeling the need to lock down or edit topics due to content like so many other forums
At the end of the day we're all here because of the humble Weber Kettle. I know I've benefitted from the friendships formed, advice given and general persona that is WKC.
BTW did I tell you all, I get to cook another 40lb lamb on the Ranch this week 8)
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This website is a labor of different people coming together to talk about a passion. I am a newbie here. I dont post much, but that doesnt mean I dont have the passion. I try to use my webers as often as I can, experimenting with new rubs, techniques, etc. This website gives me inspiration to try new things. People have helped me in the past get parts, look for kettles (reds), etc and I am grateful. I now have a red, I picked it up for free locally. I love hearing stories of people finding the awesome score or someone getting an ultra rare grill for a realistic price. I dont like hearing about people trolling pulling deals right from underneath someone. Not cool. Reputations are built on how you treat people here. Not saying you did anything wrong/right, but in the end people will judge based on how they are treated or how you treat people. Its human nature.
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1 - Greg, I was half joking and making fun of the other people who said the exact same thing via text message today. I knew you were not the same person cause I didn't even post it yet. I probably wrote it all wrong, I'm sure.
2 - I didn't recognize that you were the one I talked to before, so I wrote my opinion as explanation cause I wasn't sure if you were serious or sarcastic or what. I actually rewrote is because it came off even more crude before....
3 - Your what hurts? Why the O face?
4 - the pic link is in my first post. goes to my google pic... I don't photobucket yet, so this is the easiest way for me.... sorry if you don't google
1 - maybe, but there are three parts to communication with the last being the most important.
2 - so what? i was droll in my sarcasm. it's my favorite personal defect. internet banter is fun.
3 - the "o" face is my 2 tone red mt. nothing hurts but thanks for asking.
4 - i google, i just prefer to see the image as opposed to click on something. i don't tweet or facebook though, too many stalkers. ???
He made an offer, I didn't accept or decline, but within hours it sold on ebay where it was already listed.
holy on, this is true.
going from memory you didn't accept my last offer but had accepted a prior offer, then i had my kids for the weekend and couldn't make it up there, then something else. either way, i'm glad you got more for it. i ended up with a couple three wheelers in trades so again, no harm no foul.
whatever you did in the past certainly caused a stir. i have no dog in that hunt.
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Making money doesn't make you good or evil. It just makes it look like you don't fit in here.
As a brand noob here, I can tell you from my perspective that the quote above is spot on. I came her to learn about Weber (coming from pellets & stick burners) and I think of the site as one where a collector or noob can go to talk about and gain insight to Weber past and present. The "look at me" & "I'm only here to pick the experts minds, so I can turn a better profit" attitude of csorvala is a complete turn off and has no place on these forums, IMHO.
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csorvala, the problem I have with you posting things like you did initially in this thread is that it comes across, to me anyway, simply as a brag of 'look how much I'm about to profit from this find'.
When most people post their finds, its for personal use or to share with another member somehow.
I'm fairly certain that if you shared your finds with that intent, you would find a warmer reception. The simple fact that you're making a profit on these things is not an issue in and of itself. We all make a living in our own ways. But this board is ruled by hobbyists at the moment.
The average user here simply doesn't care what you're finds are if you're just going to flip them.
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Let the truth be told... Not to stir up the pot, just wondering what is going on. I appreciate that you do this to support your family.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/for/4704230842.html
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/for/4701728467.html
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Aside from the seqlouia of those examples at at or below retail, the red 18.5 for 182 was still brand new. All of those other listings I would consider to be fair prices. Especially the last a decent 22.5 Red with roti and other accessories for $100.00 That is a steal there. Those compared to a 95 MT and a sidekick which is about a 1980 vintage for $350? I am not seeing the logic there.
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Went to pick up a 2-tone red and when I got there the wife told him to get rid of the roti in the basement too. He also trew in two wood tables, one on the grill and one new in box..... $40 for the grill, $20 for the roti and free wood tables that sell for %$75 on ebay..... FYI, I don't just buy webers when I see them, I also buy many other items that I ship to the rest of the world too.
Here is my google folder link for this pick up.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bys74G2IL7uUakNrdTBlby1OWHM&usp=sharing
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Well considering you are selling a 2290 for $130, where as the one with the grill and other stuff is only $100, I consider that the winner all that for $100.00 and an MBH at that
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Let's cool it on the pricing.
Prices will always be subjective.
Most of us would never pay that for a red because we've gotten them for free or well under the $50 range. That doesn't mean some other person is willing to drop that coin.
My initial concerns aren't specifically about price, it's about the intent of being here.
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Hmmm... I would like to see your post to the below link... I will find my post from way back, as to why I joined the WKC...Second thought, your obviously good at research, as noted above. Find my story, you may understand why this site is important to me. I may come off as brash to you, I just don't get your means. Call me STUPID.
Search word: spike
To other WKC members, I apologize for my actions, but stuff like this hits me hard. I could sit back, but I don't let my emotions sit on my shirt sleeves.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/what-the-wkc-means-to-me!/
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I think its time for this topic to pass.
@csorvala clearly buys old grills for cheap and sells them to people willing to pay. whatever it takes to feed his family.
It's not a crime, it's just not the WKC way.
My concerns are public.
If he's here solely for his own personal gain, he'll be removed.
If he can fit in and find ways to not disrupt the community, he can remain.
Time will tell.
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I can sum this up in a nutshell...
Clayton messaged me a couple weeks ago saying he had found a very old and rare "peg leg" SJ. Apparently word has gotten out that I'm NUTZ about SJs. Yes, they are my thing, and I like to add new (old) things to my collection. He was looking for more information on the one he had just purchased. We exchanged a couple of messages, and then I concluded by telling him that I would love to add that grill to my collection and asked him to give me a price to consider purchasing it.
Rather than just be upfront and shoot me a price, he told me it would be going on eBay (highest bidder) to which I replied "send me the link when you get it posted to eBay". I wasn't pleased at that, but it's his grill, and thankfully we live in a free country. Ebay is a great place to sell something when you don't know it's value. His next reply floored me... (I'm going off memory here, but it was something to this effect) "The grill has been sold. Someone offered me a WHOLE BUNCH of money for it"
A week later Harris posted pictures of it in his back yard.
REALLY CLAYTON??? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT TO YOU?? ?? ??
While I'm glad that a WKC member got to add it to their collection, I do have to admit that it leaves a really SOUR TASTE when he comes looking for information, then still just gravitates to the TOP DOLLAR. I get the part about trying to support kids. Many of us here have kids too. There is gas to put in the car, and house payments to make. A fact of life for all of us.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but this all seems out of context with the spirit of the forum and the collectors who contribute here.
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Since day one this guy has been a jerk, and after reading more and more of his posts I have never thought any different. I'm sure he is the same clown asking $300 for a red MT in Racine right now. I can't believe someone would offer that much but hey people are welcome to spend what they want. He loves the sound of his own voice, he posts and attacks and posts and attacks. Why he comes here is only to drive up prices. He is a jerk. As far as Harris showing up here and being attacked, he wasn't at fault for that, it was multiple people screwing over Harris' reputation, and the truth came out. I don't believe that is the case with this guy. He's just a junk seller looking to maximize profit which is great and what America is all about, but it really doesn't fit in here. Clearly he's offering things up to pit one member against another to drive up prices. When did we decide to put up with that? He's using our membership roster to further his personal gains. Nobody want's this kind of crap here, he's just using us to get the word out to let people know what he has so the prices go up, nothing else. Just take your stuff to Ebay and leave us alone already. Go use someone else's site, go see if Chris will put up with your nonsense at the virtual site? Your like a bad smell you just won't go away.....The more you post the bigger the jerk you sound like. You don't get it, you won't get it and you never will, and it's okay. No harm in that, I personally don't get other stuff, I don't get burning man, I don't get Prince or Frank Zappa, and it's okay. But I'm not going to go on their web sites and stir the pot. I leave it alone....I suggest you do the same.