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Title: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: MrHoss on September 09, 2014, 04:51:58 AM
I spotted this while looking for ash catcher assemblies for a couple project kettles:

http://www.amazon.com/Weber-65143-Catcher-Touch-Grills/dp/B00MMIKZWQ/ref=sr_1_9?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1410215516&sr=1-9&keywords=weber+ash+catcher

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81FTl9rpx9L._SL1500_.jpg)

To my novice eyes there are a number of changes here.  Not sure what I think of it.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: SixZeroFour on September 09, 2014, 10:06:21 AM
Crazy! Circles swapped for oval cutouts, and I'd love to see how it locks into place as those hanger tabs are pretty small. Rain lip on the bottom edge? Looks nicely made!
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: 1911Ron on September 09, 2014, 10:12:17 AM
Crazy! Circles swapped for oval cutouts, and I'd love to see how it locks into place as those hanger tabs are pretty small. Rain lip on the bottom edge? Looks nicely made!
I noticed the small lock tabs my self, now i'll have to look at the one i just received.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: SixZeroFour on September 09, 2014, 10:30:11 AM
The ash bucket itself seems to have more rounded edges to it as well.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Craig on September 09, 2014, 11:20:59 AM
It's the new "rolled edge" ring. now the old/current ones are "straight edge" rings and "flat cans"
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Craig on September 09, 2014, 11:22:33 AM
I do wonder how long it will be before the open ash pan era ends end all kettles go "gold". Wouldn't surprise me if this takes place before the end of the decade. Eventually trickling down to the SJ too.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: SixZeroFour on September 09, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
I'm hoping they wont get rid of it, mainly for the iconic brand recognition! I have a feeling it's more to do with having a budget entry level grill (less hardware) and then also offering the OTG as an upsell.

Long live the pan!

 ;)
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: coldkettle on September 09, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
From a cost perspective I don't think they will get rid of ash pan models.  To have a lost cost grill it's much lower priced to have a stamped pan and some clips vs a multiple part ash catcher assembly.

I think it's safe..😊


I love the smell of a evening cook...

Title: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Craig on September 09, 2014, 03:14:55 PM
For the record, I'm not advocating it's demise. I'm still mad they went away from twist on pans. I'm just saying with all the "safety this and safety that" mentality these days, it makes sense. I could be wrong..
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: 1buckie on September 09, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
For the record, I'm not advocating it's demise. I'm still mad they went away from twist on pans. I'm just saying with all the "safety this and safety that" mentality these days, it makes sense. I could be wrong..

really?

I'm still pissed about the "U" slots and the twist hooks........that was the best !!!!

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Cookers%202012/new%20cookers%202013/Winzs%20Meetup/West%20Coast%20Meetup/Black6.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: coldkettle on September 09, 2014, 03:51:04 PM
I think safety has a bunch to do with their products.  I'm sure they have a center of gravity/ tip over spec they have to meet also.  Maybe that's why you don't see many more hanging accessories or accessories adding weight above the cooking grate.  Condiment tray, corntater ring, etc....my 2$

I love the smell of a evening cook...

Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Johnpv on September 10, 2014, 12:54:20 PM
Interesting changes, I wonder if these new pans are easier to get on and off.  Not that the current ones are hard but I do find SOMETIMES I have to fiddle a little bit to get it to find it's home.  I think I liked the rolled bottom on the pan itself. 


As far as them ever doing away with the open ash pan model, I highly doubt it.  Just going on what I see in the apartment complex I live in (which is a sample size of 1,000 - 1,300 apartments) I'd say EASILY three quarters of all the Webers I see here are the open ash pan ones.  The other 25% is almost entirely Golds, I think I've seen maybe 1 performer.   
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Hofy on September 11, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
It also looks like this is not a twist on bowl but a slide in and the handle locks into place.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Heyjude on September 11, 2014, 08:15:39 AM
Pretty sure its a twist on.. Or a lift and twist..How would it slide on?  8)
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Hofy on September 12, 2014, 08:40:31 AM
Pretty sure its a twist on.. Or a lift and twist..How would it slide on?  8)

Take a look at this shot from Amazon.   The two end pieces of the handle look as if they slide into the ring, then the handle is raised into position and clips into the ring.  I think the handle will have to be squeezed to engage or disengage the bowl.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: JerseyBarry on November 02, 2014, 06:04:45 PM
I'm not that dazzled by the ash pan, I want to know if the 45 degree angle lid bale (larger style) is compatible wilt later model performers. I want my lid to sit straight up, like my 26'er.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: Red Kettle Rich on November 02, 2014, 06:32:50 PM
In the pics I saw, it looks like if/when you squeeze the two wires of the handle will be closer together and so the handle ends attached to the bowl will be narrow enough to go thru the slot..
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: MrHoss on November 02, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
In the pics I saw, it looks like if/when you squeeze the two wires of the handle will be closer together and so the handle ends attached to the bowl will be narrow enough to go thru the slot..

I have a few of the new ash catchers and that is how they work.
Title: Re: New Ash Catcher Assembly For 2015
Post by: GregS on November 03, 2014, 04:44:38 AM
I have a few of the new ash catchers and that is how they work.
what is your take on them?  do you like them better than the twist style?