Thank you to the agent "Midnight Rider" for picking this up for me on his latest excursion. I will repaint the cart with a coat of black paint and clean up the grill. The grill has an "A" stamp and does not have leg sockets.
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Sweet!
How many carts other than the Seville, Sequoia and now this, were made by Weber over the years?
interesting.
the cart isn't detailed like the known sevilles
the bowl doesn't have leg sockets, but it still sits on its handles instead of L clips
my theory is this cart (and the others like it) were sold by sears roebuck and/or montgomery ward (maybe other catalog sales companies too).
Possibly made BY weber, but sold exclusively by another.
maybe its time to start trying to dig up old sears and montgomery ward catalogs from the 60s and 70s.
Whether its real or not, its still interesting looking. Maybe a Weber prototype? I wonder if the bowl was meant to be turned 90 degrees so the bowl handles aren't over the "mesh area". This would allow for more work space. But then the handles might stick out past the side rails?
definitely interesting and collectible.
i just bought a bunch of montgomery ward catalogs from 77, 78, and 79 off ebay. i'll let you know what i find :)
someone should get the sears catalogs and see if they can find info (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1980+montgomery+ward&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.X1979+sears+catalog&_nkw=1979+sears+catalog&_sacat=0)
Nice pick up! Tell the Midnight Rider hello for me. ;)
The carts were sold exclusively by others. I don't know whether Weber manufactured them though. This setup does have a name. They are called "Woodwards".
Quote from: harris92 on October 10, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
The carts were sold exclusively by others. I don't know whether Weber manufactured them though. This setup does have a name. They are called "Woodwards".
Awesome info. Have a source to cite for the exclusivity?
The wheels are strikingly similar, which makes me wonder about manufacturers.
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Wow that is awesome looking. I just saw setups like that to while I was at my dealer. They had a 50 year Weber poster that shows a ton of their kettles and carts.
Another amazing pick up Harris 8)
Well done
Can't wait for more info to be dug up on this
And of course the resto pics :P
Looks like Jeff is right it needs to be spun around
This looks similar to on posted on CL a while ago
IIRC they wanted $400
Golly, The one you are thinking about is the really nice Avocado in Los Angeles. This one was for sale for $400.00. Here is a thread on this setup.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/18'-seville/msg63476/#msg63476
Here is a pic from one appearing in an episode of the Rockford Files. This pic was taken from another thread.
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alright, so after some digging...
WoodWard is the manufacturer of the cart.
They made, and still make patio furniture.
WOOOOO we figured things out!
Alright, who has a woodward cart?
Where does it say woodward at?
hmmmm
after a bit more digging, i wouldn't be surprised if WoodWard actually made ALL the iron carts (even the Weber branded Sevilles)
it would explain the wheels matching...
plus Weber likely didn't have the manufacturing equipment to handle wrought iron.
search for "woodard wrought iron furniture vintage" and a lot of the furniture is VERY similar in style and character and ornateness to the white Weber Seville.
Quote from: Troy on October 10, 2013, 03:39:17 PM
hmmmm
after a bit more digging, i wouldn't be surprised if WoodWard actually made ALL the iron carts (even the Weber branded Sevilles)
it would explain the wheels matching...
plus Weber likely didn't have the manufacturing equipment to handle wrought iron.
search for "woodard wrought iron furniture vintage" and a lot of the furniture is VERY similar in style and character and ornateness to the white Weber Seville.
check this one out:
(http://image0-rubylane.s3.amazonaws.com/shops/delmarclassique/E3474.5L.jpg?86)
Can we find a short round table and make a Flamenco?!?!?!
Nice find Harris! And nice research Troy! I'll bet they did the Flemenco too! :)
Quote from: Craig on October 10, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
Nice find Harris! And nice research Troy! I'll bet they did the Flemenco too! :)
I want a Flamenco. :( By the way Harris, I call him Obi Wan because I have learned so much from him. 8)
Also, I wish I hadn't ordered 60 bucks worth of old catalogues. Maybe there's still new info in them...
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Very nice Harris! Thanks Troy for the research, done so swiftly. There is so many grails...
Sorry Troy. I could have told you about the woodward connection or at least hypothesized about it. We had it when I was growing up. In fact my folks just sold the last of the old patio furniture about a year ago. All white basically identical to the original sevilles.
I dont know just how it was retailed in conjunction with Weber though on these 18 inch carts.
Shoot, I think you guys are trying to shame me into getting off my a$$ and restoring/repainting my big wheel cart (http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/rlanger0/sevillecart.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/rlanger0/media/sevillecart.jpg.html)
oh, it's Woodard, not woodward.
Woodard certainly made most, if not all of the wrought iron grill carts.
Now to figure out if the 'black sheep' carts should be called sevilles or not?
Yeah I've noticed all the similarities too on all the wrought iron carts...all makes sense now. I always thought that weber never made those carts themselves.
I wonder who made the sequoia carts? ???
I have one. It doesn't have any markings on it, as far as I can tell.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xHQT1mIrCxo/UDtp53FBILI/AAAAAAAABN0/yN1fEwrl0ms/w958-h719-no/12+-+1)