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Title: Another head shaker...
Post by: jhagestad on November 14, 2019, 06:57:10 AM
I don't know if anyone has seen this YouTube video before, but it came up in my feed last night. Basically, it's a guy comparing the Weber MT Kettle to a Sam's Club Member's Mark kettle, and he makes a number of statements/actions that were mystifying, to say the least.  While I'm solidly in the Weber camp, I'm not above listening to someone's legitimate criticism of a product I use and think is good. But it's super irritating watching someone who doesn't know what they're doing make these kinds of comparison videos. In addition, I'm shocked at how the MM blatantly ripped off Weber in nearly every facet of its design. How is that legal? I guess that's why I'm not an attorney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnkuR9g8cw
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: WeberKell11 on November 14, 2019, 07:23:04 AM
I could only make it through 3 minutes... What a joke

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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: michaelmilitello on November 14, 2019, 07:25:10 AM
The guy is a complete dumb ass.  Horrible review. 


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Title: Another head shaker...
Post by: rc on November 14, 2019, 07:29:35 AM
Seen this video about a week ago. Don't know about you guys, but the only thing his video proved to me was that he doesn't know how to grill lol.


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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: ReanimatedRobot on November 14, 2019, 07:42:08 AM
Attorney says:

Well our design is completely different.  See.. it has FOUR legs.  HUGE innovation. 

I mean comparing them to other products is just fine.  However I think if you are buying a standard kettle charcoal grill it would be silly to go with anything else unless you just demand it to be a new product and are on a very tight budget. 

Weber's design in that type of grill is just too solid and there is tons of 3rd party support for grill products on the 22.5 kettle. 

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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: jhagestad on November 14, 2019, 07:52:16 AM
What kills me is this guy has 430K subscribers so he's got some influence, and this kind of bad information only serves to reward inferior products.

There were two parts that just had me wanting to throw a shoe: 1) when he was unable to take the Weber ash catcher bucket off with one hand and 2) when he claimed he fussed with the vents but could never get the temp back up on the Weber after taking the lid off.  There were other eye roll moments, but these stuck out to me the most for being truly egregious.

I don't particularly enjoy calling people out as it can diverge into personal attacks in a hurry (which isn't cool), but this required an exception.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: Raindog on November 14, 2019, 08:25:18 AM
I watched until he kicked the kettles to show stability and decided that was enough.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: crowderjd on November 14, 2019, 09:41:57 AM
I completely agree that it is a garbage review, however, I will agree that the new style ash catchers with the squeeze handles are a MAJOR pain to take off.  More than the "taco" handle, that is my biggest gripe about the new style Webers. 
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: FuriousHobbit on November 14, 2019, 10:02:18 AM
I remember seeing that video. When I just went to check it out, I had already disliked it lol. I watched it when I first started getting interested in getting a Weber and remember not liking much about the review.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: jhagestad on November 14, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: Raindog on November 14, 2019, 08:25:18 AM
I watched until he kicked the kettles to show stability and decided that was enough.

Yes, that would rank as #3 on my list!
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: jdorn on November 14, 2019, 10:44:29 AM
That video made me cry a little inside...

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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: cookingjnj on November 14, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
Ok, I was reading all the replies and thought, having two kettles, and no where near being an expert, I have to watch this video.  And I will watch with an open mind.  Well 1:22 into the video, even I realize the dude might not know what is going on when he points down to Weber's second shelf and says "it looks like a little cooling rack"!  Jack, you lost me at 1:22, and not in a good way!
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: 1spacemanspiff on November 14, 2019, 08:56:04 PM
At 1:19 the bottom vents are closed (you can see the silver ash sweeps thru the bottom vents.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: jhagestad on November 15, 2019, 05:30:18 AM
When there are so many great videos out there doing the lord's work on all things grilling, it's stunning to come across one of these clunkers. I'm still dumbfounded on how this guy has 430K subscribers.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: FuriousHobbit on November 15, 2019, 05:40:10 AM
Maybe he bought them all. Not sure how that works but I have heard that people can buy subs.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: RRRanger99 on November 15, 2019, 05:49:49 AM
For all we know, this guy's family tree is a straight line!
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on November 15, 2019, 05:57:50 AM
Heres what I seen, pertaining to the lack of heat.

In the beginning of the video, like sidney pointed out, the bottom vents are closed.

At 8:28 We can see the OT blade covering the vent under the lit charcoal. That makes a 100$ difference.

Then at 8:50-8:52 he cooks food and we all can clearly see the vent handle in the closed position.

At 12:18 when the review is wrapping down the bottom vent is finally open and the weber is all fired up and smoking like it should have been the whole time.

Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: jhagestad on November 15, 2019, 06:01:34 AM
Quote from: FuriousHobbit on November 15, 2019, 05:40:10 AM
Maybe he bought them all. Not sure how that works but I have heard that people can buy subs.

I never considered that, but definitely a possibility. I mean... the guy kicked the grills to test for "sturdiness". Normally, this is where the right side of my brain would explain to the left side of my brain why that might be okay, but in this instance, both side were like "oh come on!"
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: FuriousHobbit on November 15, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
Quote from: jhagestad on November 15, 2019, 06:01:34 AM
Quote from: FuriousHobbit on November 15, 2019, 05:40:10 AM
Maybe he bought them all. Not sure how that works but I have heard that people can buy subs.

I never considered that, but definitely a possibility. I mean... the guy kicked the grills to test for "sturdiness". Normally, this is where the right side of my brain would explain to the left side of my brain why that might be okay, but in this instance, both side were like "oh come on!"
Went back and looked at his channel. Looks like he's a regular cooking channel rather than grilling or bbq. He's just not an outdoor cooker I presume.

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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: RRRanger99 on November 15, 2019, 06:15:03 AM
I bet this guy would shave the hair off his back, if Sam's Club offered the Member's Skid Mark kettle in new Master Touch colors!
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: jhagestad on November 15, 2019, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: FuriousHobbit on November 15, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
Quote from: jhagestad on November 15, 2019, 06:01:34 AM
Quote from: FuriousHobbit on November 15, 2019, 05:40:10 AM
Maybe he bought them all. Not sure how that works but I have heard that people can buy subs.

I never considered that, but definitely a possibility. I mean... the guy kicked the grills to test for "sturdiness". Normally, this is where the right side of my brain would explain to the left side of my brain why that might be okay, but in this instance, both side were like "oh come on!"
Went back and looked at his channel. Looks like he's a regular cooking channel rather than grilling or bbq. He's just not an outdoor cooker I presume.

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Agreed. He should compare kitchen equipment, not grills.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: View to a Grill on November 15, 2019, 08:09:31 AM
I'll have to check this out later.  @work right now.


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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: LiquidOcelot on November 15, 2019, 08:57:06 AM
Lol completely honest , i watched this review when i was trying to decide what kinda grill to get. obviously im still here after his review.

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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: View to a Grill on November 15, 2019, 01:06:30 PM
Such a bad video... I don't know where to begin. 

I already had this planned as my next video before I saw this but...This weekend I am shooting a 7 or 10 tip video for beginners at charcoal grilling... my first tip... 1. Buy a Weber Kettle. 




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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 16, 2019, 03:33:05 AM
Yeah, this video was discussed in the past, this person who does this video is a complete sellout to anyone who will give him free stuff.  He's a clown and knows nothing about cooking on a kettle grill.
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: KettleMaster on November 16, 2019, 04:21:49 PM
CLOWN

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Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: DaveG74 on November 17, 2019, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: KettleMaster on November 16, 2019, 04:21:49 PM
CLOWN

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yep
Title: Re: Another head shaker...
Post by: ReanimatedRobot on November 17, 2019, 05:03:20 PM
I actually watched this video today and It really had my head shaking. Absolutely embarrassing.  This guy can't even cook regular burgers and dogs.  All you have to do is leave the vents open and use direct heat. 



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