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Title: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: 56MPG on November 20, 2018, 08:52:19 AM
This comes up from  time to time, and I thought a devoted thread would be good. Lots of ways you can do damage to your home (or feet) using charcoal. here's a starter list:

1. Think the coals are cold? Think again! I always snuff out the coals after a cook by closing the vents, and I usually wait until the next day to toss them out. A while back I had done a pork shoulder on my 18WSM Thursday night into Friday - finishing around mid day. Closed off the vents and let it sit. The next day (Saturday) around Noon, I dumped the coals in a wooded area away from the house, and fired it up again for something I was doing that day. No big deal. Later that evening, someone asked why smoke was coming from that area. Lo and behold a small fire had kindled itself to life - probably 30 or so hours after I snuffed them out. Today I use a 30 gallon steel garbage can for spent coals.

2. Bare feet or sandals + charcoal grilling are a bad combo. Sooner or later you will know why.

3. Keep your chimney off the ground if you can. Murphy's Law is in effect here. If you dump the coals onto the grate and set the chimney down on the ground, you WILL forget and step on it. When you do, there will be one last white hot ember that will jump out and land on your foot. See #2.
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: JEBIV on November 20, 2018, 08:54:57 AM
Guilty your Honor, I have served my time and will never again make those mistakes. I have been rehabilitated !!!
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: YardBurner on November 20, 2018, 09:04:35 AM
Guilty as well.  To add to the list.

4. Never use your side burner or turkey fryer to light a chimney
unless you are on concrete or the ground.  Most will allow hot embers
to fall through to your prized wood or composite deck.

Didn't happen to me but I have seen the resulting damage first hand.
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: GrillGuyMosier on November 20, 2018, 10:12:59 AM
I'm guilty of #2.... But I will never grill with sandals on again.... Never ever. I'm sure I looked funny to anyone watching me jump around after that hot little piece landed right in between my toes and stuck there
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 20, 2018, 10:22:50 AM
Paid the price for #2 on the list.....more than once.

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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: dbhost on November 20, 2018, 10:50:23 AM
Once done with the cook, I OPEN the vents 100% and allow the coals to completely ash out.  The next morning, I transfer the ash, by hand (messy but insurance for sure!) into a plastic grocery bag, and then in turn to a galvanized trash can. I discovered LONG ago that throttling down and trying to snuff coals like you mention, just doesn't work. Yes I have had a flare up in a trash can because I didn't let them burn down to ash...

Often I grill with sport sandals. Been doing so for decades with no issues.

Chimney goes on the ground, a good way away from the grill, people, or anything flamable.
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: michaelmilitello on November 20, 2018, 12:10:15 PM
Lit chimneys will also do a number on concrete.  Good idea to use bricks on top of the concrete. 


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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: 56MPG on November 20, 2018, 12:24:54 PM
They do a number on plastic side tables too...
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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: lksdrinker on November 20, 2018, 12:27:57 PM
You aint kidding that coals dont always go out.  A couple years ago we had a block party in my neighborhood.  Next day I'm stumbling around my yard hungover trying to take stock of what needs to be cleaned, picked up etc.; and as I'm walking past my driveway I noticed that the neighbor across the street had their trash out at the curb and was fully engulfed in flames!  I'm talking 12 feet high and licking the power lines!  Took me a few seconds to really react, but I hollered over to my next door neighbor to grab a fire extinguisher as I go running for my garden hose....run across the street with the hose only to pull a three stooges move and find the hose is bout 4 feet to short to reach where I need to be!  Luckily the neighbor and I got it taken care of and eventually the neighbors who live at the house where the fire was happening came out and had no idea what was going on.  The lady who lives there says she tossed her entire charcoal bbq in the trash and just figured it had to no longer be lit since they cooked yesterday!
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: johnny 2 shack on November 20, 2018, 01:47:54 PM
also a victim of # 2 , once i stepped on a hot coal , it embedded in the sole , walked in the house and put a nice hole in my kitchen floor !
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: jiveturkey1 on November 20, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
Don't grill in the garage even with the door open. Charcoal produces carbon monoxide the whole time it's burning. Carbon monoxide is poison! ☠️☠️☠️


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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: ste6168 on November 21, 2018, 04:18:11 AM
I've got a cheap Smokey Joe that I use as my chimney holder and lighting spot. Works like a charm!


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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: nvandyke on November 21, 2018, 06:01:32 AM
#2!  Never again!  Had a small piece of hot coal jump out and hit the top of my foot.  Worth the extra few seconds to slide on a pair of shoes!
Title: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: Lowbrass on November 21, 2018, 08:09:56 AM
To add to the list:

#5 - Careful when pouring the chimney of lit coal into the grill that you aren't too close to the hot embers floating (flying) out of the bottom as you turn the chimney.  I had hot embers fly up and land on my Rx glasses and melt tiny holes into the plastic lenses.  Luckily they were still under warranty!


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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: au4stree on November 29, 2018, 01:28:51 PM
With regards to #1.  In many areas, the top layer of soil is composed of mainly organic material (think combustible).  Having fought wildfires over half of my career, this is how many wildfires are started.  Folks don't realize how long one hot coal can smolder and ignite a fire, sometimes miles away from their origin.  Your recommendation is absolutely true.  The fire triangle is always in play:  Fuel, heat, Oxygen.  Remove one you have no fire. 

#6  Always handle coals in a chimney with gloves, particularly insulated welder type gloves.  I mention this one because I dumped a load of coals from my Weber chimney a few summers ago and burned my hand on the metal ring.  I had done this a gazillion times without gloves, but the right conditions were there and reminded me to always use my PPE.   
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 29, 2018, 02:12:09 PM

Quote from: dbhost on November 20, 2018, 10:50:23 AM
Once done with the cook, I OPEN the vents 100% and allow the coals to completely ash out.  The next morning, I transfer the ash, by hand (messy but insurance for sure!) into a plastic grocery bag, and then in turn to a galvanized trash can. I discovered LONG ago that throttling down and trying to snuff coals like you mention, just doesn't work. Yes I have had a flare up in a trash can because I didn't let them burn down to ash...

Often I grill with sport sandals. Been doing so for decades with no issues.

Chimney goes on the ground, a good way away from the grill, people, or anything flamable.

Your wasting money. I snuff the coals then next time I fire up, i add new coal to it. Much more efficient then letting your coal burn completely up each time.


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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: crowderjd on November 29, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
So I grill barefoot all the time...and have paid the price with the tiny speck of charcoal that drops out of the chimney.  I've done some of my best swearing under those conditions.
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on November 29, 2018, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: crowderjd on November 29, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
So I grill barefoot all the time...and have paid the price with the tiny speck of charcoal that drops out of the chimney.  I've done some of my best swearing under those conditions.

I have a SS lid that covers the top of the chimney if it gets upset while its stoking, and keeps the airborne sparks down when its needed.

Then when its time to transport the chimney to the grill I hold the lid under the chimney, mostly so my dog dont burn his feet, and it catches all the coals that fall out the bottom...but not the sides.

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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: Mike in Roseville on November 30, 2018, 07:41:46 PM
I learned with #1...

One time, I used my WSM...let the coals burn out, closed the vents. 2 days later I went to scoop the ashes with a plastic cup and...it melted instantly. Almost burned my hand.
Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: LiquidOcelot on November 30, 2018, 07:46:45 PM
beware of debris

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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: Jules V. on November 30, 2018, 09:34:04 PM
After I'm done cooking i put put a pan of water on top of the charcoal. Wait  couple minutes then close all vents. The steam will help extinguish the fire much faster. 

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Title: Re: Charcoal Safety - Myths and Tips
Post by: racedvl on December 01, 2018, 06:24:43 AM
I use my S'N'S for 95% of my cooks.  I always shut the vents down, and add fresh coals on top of old coals, for the next cook.  And as far as the ash,  I have a metal 5 gallon bucket that they get dumped into.  Once full,  they get put in a bag,  and disposed of.

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