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Title: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Twangin on August 15, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
Hi all-  I've really been enjoying my new 22" Kettle, pretty much addicted at this point! Ready to move up to a more involved cook so I'm researching/planning for either Baby Back Ribs or about a 5lb Boston Butt. Either way, I want to do them low and slow around 250F (225-275). I was hoping some of you could share some of your low and slow "go-to" settings for the top & bottom vents on your 22" kettles. Even the amounts of charcoal you use (lit & unlit) would be awesome as well.

Seems like I've seen bottom vent 1/4 open & top vent 1/2 open a few times as a popular choice.


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: blksabbath on August 15, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
I never mess with the top vent...it's always wide open.  Bottom vent (unless you are running a three wheeler) just cracked.  A snake works very well as far as coal set up.
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: avega2792 on August 15, 2018, 02:14:51 PM
Last cook I ran a 2x1 snake and had the bottom vent just cracked open and the top about half way. I only touched the top vent a couple times and settled just under 250 for 6 hours, but your ambient temps will also have to be factored in.
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Josh G on August 15, 2018, 03:36:24 PM
I do bottom vent slightly open and adjust top as needed throughout the cook.  Play with your bottom vent ahead of time and make some marks on the ash catcher showing 1/4 and 1/2 open so you know where you are at.  During the cook you usually can't see the openings to know where the vents are set. 
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: kettlebb on August 15, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: blksabbath on August 15, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
I never mess with the top vent...it's always wide open.  Bottom vent (unless you are running a three wheeler) just cracked.  A snake works very well as far as coal set up.

This. You want the top wide open for as much exhaust that you can get.


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Twangin on August 15, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
This is all very helpful y'all! Much appreciated. Curious about this here though:

Quote from: kettlebb on August 15, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: blksabbath on August 15, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
I never mess with the top vent...it's always wide open.  Bottom vent (unless you are running a three wheeler) just cracked.  A snake works very well as far as coal set up.

This. You want the top wide open for as much exhaust that you can get.


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What are the benefits of getting "as much exhaust as you can get"? Is that so you don't over smoke your meats, or smother your coals?


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: michaelmilitello on August 15, 2018, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Twangin on August 15, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
This is all very helpful y'all! Much appreciated. Curious about this here though:

Quote from: kettlebb on August 15, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: blksabbath on August 15, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
I never mess with the top vent...it's always wide open.  Bottom vent (unless you are running a three wheeler) just cracked.  A snake works very well as far as coal set up.

This. You want the top wide open for as much exhaust that you can get.


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What are the benefits of getting "as much exhaust as you can get"? Is that so you don't over smoke your meats, or smother your coals?


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Cleaner burning fire and smoke if you're using wood chunks. 


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Foster Dahlet on August 15, 2018, 06:32:21 PM
I go with 1/2 open on the bottom and 1/2 open on the top.  Works well for me.

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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Twangin on August 17, 2018, 02:52:47 AM
Thanks for the tips! Gonna give ribs a try this weekend


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: SMOKE FREAK on August 17, 2018, 06:51:56 AM
Quote from: michaelmilitello on August 15, 2018, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Twangin on August 15, 2018, 04:26:31 PM
This is all very helpful y'all! Much appreciated. Curious about this here though:

Quote from: kettlebb on August 15, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: blksabbath on August 15, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
I never mess with the top vent...it's always wide open.  Bottom vent (unless you are running a three wheeler) just cracked.  A snake works very well as far as coal set up.

This. You want the top wide open for as much exhaust that you can get.


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What are the benefits of getting "as much exhaust as you can get"? Is that so you don't over smoke your meats, or smother your coals?


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Cleaner burning fire and smoke if you're using wood chunks. 


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With wood chunks I leave it wide open...Just charcoal, I can close it a bit without causing "bad" smoke...
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: deans6571 on August 17, 2018, 07:36:23 AM
...doesn't  leaving the top vents wide open, cause the charcoal to burn quicker though?

I would have thought that keeping the vents almost fully closed would cause the charcoal to burn longer and hotter, no?

Title: Go-to vent settings
Post by: HoosierKettle on August 17, 2018, 08:05:17 AM
Quote from: deans6571 on August 17, 2018, 07:36:23 AM
...doesn't  leaving the top vents wide open, cause the charcoal to burn quicker though?

I would have thought that keeping the vents almost fully closed would cause the charcoal to burn longer and hotter, no?

No. Open vents equals hotter and faster.

I crack the lower vent and will close top vent to half when needed to achieve lower temp.


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: SMOKE FREAK on August 17, 2018, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: deans6571 on August 17, 2018, 07:36:23 AM
...doesn't  leaving the top vents wide open, cause the charcoal to burn quicker though?

I would have thought that keeping the vents almost fully closed would cause the charcoal to burn longer and hotter, no?

Keeping all the vents mostly closed will cause coals to burn longer but not hotter...Less air means less fire...So less heat...
With added smoke wood less air means inadequate burning producing acrid smoke...
Control temps with bottom vents as much as possible and mess with the top vent only when you have too...
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: bear on August 17, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Brain_STL on August 17, 2018, 04:18:53 PM

Quote from: bear on August 17, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
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That's a really cool add on. Did you make it yourself?


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: SMOKE FREAK on August 18, 2018, 04:07:35 AM
That is cool looking...I just marked mine with a sharpie  8)
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: racedvl on August 18, 2018, 08:38:51 AM
Quote from: bear on August 17, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
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Man,  I could use about 6 of those... lol

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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Janthony13 on August 18, 2018, 01:12:55 PM
I Always keep top vent closed. And cracked on the bottom. I'm able to keep it between 240-260. If it starts dropping I open the top to bring it back up.


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: bear on August 18, 2018, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: Brain_STL on August 17, 2018, 04:18:53 PM

Quote from: bear on August 17, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180817/70f3310e65afc32ab377ace66b5e47a8.jpg)
That's a really cool add on. Did you make it yourself?


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Found this picture on a thread here somewhere, I  can't find it now
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Twangin on August 18, 2018, 06:00:22 PM
Very interesting to hear the different methods. Goes to show everyone has their way that worked for them. Did my first low and slow ribs cook today and will be doing a write-up on it detailing everything from amount of coals to how I worked the vents. Long story short the first cook turned out GREAT but am definitely looking forward to learning how to dial in temps even better on the kettle. Thanks a bunch to you guys helping out with giving me a starting point for temp control! I'm sticking around up here


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Brain_STL on August 18, 2018, 07:12:28 PM

Quote from: SMOKE FREAK on August 18, 2018, 04:07:35 AM
That is cool looking...I just marked mine with a sharpie  8)
Ditto


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Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: deans6571 on August 21, 2018, 02:17:59 AM
Quote from: Brain_STL on August 17, 2018, 04:18:53 PM

Quote from: bear on August 17, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180817/70f3310e65afc32ab377ace66b5e47a8.jpg)
That's a really cool add on. Did you make it yourself?


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...what an awesome add on!!!
8)
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: jeffrackmo on August 22, 2018, 05:19:55 AM
I am a 1/2 n 1/2 sort of guy.  If temps drop, I open the Top Vent wide open to establish that pesky target temp. on my WSM, One vent 1/2 on the bottom with the other 2 closed and the top wide open with my Tip Top Temp dialed in.  Works for me!!!!

Just my $.02 worth...

J
Title: Re: Go-to vent settings
Post by: Lew on August 22, 2018, 01:13:41 PM
Weber recommends bottom vents fully open and controlling temperature using the top vent.  I do the opposite on my kettles and WSM.  Never had a problem.  I can run 250 all day using this method.  For butts, top wide open, bottom vent 1/8 open or so.