Happened to refresh my CL search page this afternoon and saw an ad for a 26" Weber is decent condition. Left a message and the guy called me back. From his description, it was either a mash up of parts or he really wasn't selling a 26". Anyway, he wanted $25 for the grill so I told him I'd take it to hold it for me. This is what I picked up...
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8739290503_7031256b41_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8739290503/)
IMAG0642 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8739290503/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
Now for the bad... I need:
Thermometer
two front casters and plastic inserts
the lid holder thing on the side.
The basket thing on the bottom needs help as the metal bracket is bent. Apparently the basket on the older ones don't clip into the leg slots. The ash thing is rusted and cannot be taken apart at this moment. (hoping some heat and rust buster loosens things up a bit)
The propane tank, regulator, and hose is missing, though the ignition button and wires are there.
Does anyone know if Weber still sells parts for these? If not, what would be a good place to find said parts, or are they available from other sources in non Weber branding?
I can post more pics of the needed stuff tomorrow as light was fading and my girlfriend was on her way over. Needed to get it put away and hidden. lol
e-replacement parts.com should help with most of that.
Ken
nice score mike 8)
Wow $25 is a steal. You might have to put twice that on new parts, but still a deal. Nice score.
That is a beautiful find! 25 bucks is pretty dang good - even with all the work it needs.
Good news - thermo, front casters, lid bale, & ash sweepers are all easy/fairly cheap parts still available.
Bad news - tank/regulator/hose will cost you some bucks to get back to OEM
Use this link to gain info about your new treasure. :)
http://help.weber.com/schematics/browse.aspx?all=1&model=821001
Thanks for the link to the schematic with part numbers and also for the ereplacement website suggestion! Found a few things showing as not available, but the few things I really want or need won't cost me very much.
Questions, the part showing as #22 is really bent up on mine. If I order the new ash catcher ring #25, does it just clip in to the leg sockets, eliminating the need for this part? I ask because it shows no longer available. Also, would the regulator assembly be the part that clips into the burner assembly with the retaining clip? And will this fit a standard propane tank? (like the ones you can pick up at any propane exchange place?) Or will it only fit the small propane tank? I really like the new style assembly that uses camping grill tanks, but I am not sure one could be adapted. I noticed the damper for the lid is loose. Is this something a rap with a hammer and punch can fix, or do you just order a new one?
All in all, I just need to get it cleaned out so that I can take it apart and give it a good cleaning and reassembly and a few new parts. Love the blue color and can't wait to get some use out of it.
I can help with the handles....
Can you post a photo of #22? That bar is suppose to be bent to hold the ash ring in place. You might be lucky and it's fine the way it is. If you need a new one, they're no longer available. If you have a bench vise & some tools/ability, a new one shouldn't be too hard to fabricate. There's a link buried here on the process. Or, you could retrofit a new style ash ring & sweeper assembly. Hose clamps around the leg sockets/retainer ring is the simplest way.
The issue with using the newer regulator & disposable propane tank is mounting it. The old style is straight down while the new one is turned 90 degrees. Since the hose & all is missing, maybe you could mount a new regulator on/off valve to the old location and use the adaptor hose to run off a 20lb tank.
There is a thread with a regulated retro. Buckie will post, he always finds the old threads.
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Mike, I have all the engineering drawings and sheet metal template from this ash catcher bar thread:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/diy-old-style-one-touch-gold-ash-catcher-bar/msg31366/#msg31366
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397908_962750353418_244639968_n.jpg)
I can post them for you tomorrow should you decide to make it.
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 14, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
There is a thread with a regulated retro. Buckie will post, he always finds the old threads.
AHhhhhh....Ahhhhh................Oweeee.....Ouch.......gas assist.....you've got me by the Achilles Heel...... :o
"regulated retro".....meaning from what to which?
Just describe this a bit more.............then maybe I can find it
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 14, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
Mike, I have all the engineering drawings and sheet metal template from this ash catcher bar thread:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/diy-old-style-one-touch-gold-ash-catcher-bar/msg31366/#msg31366
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397908_962750353418_244639968_n.jpg)
I can post them for you tomorrow should you decide to make it.
Go ahead if you have a minute....the Brownie MasterTouch is in somewhat worse shape than I 1st thought....needs this, most likely.....TNX !!
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 14, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
There is a thread with a regulated retro. Buckie will post, he always finds the old threads.
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These threads are both good:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/'95-performer-gas-assist-troubles/
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/gas-assist-added-to-mesa-azul/
On Mesa Azul you can see the knob is 90 degrees to the tank threads
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 14, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
Mike, I have all the engineering drawings and sheet metal template from this ash catcher bar thread:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/diy-old-style-one-touch-gold-ash-catcher-bar/msg31366/#msg31366
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397908_962750353418_244639968_n.jpg)
I can post them for you tomorrow should you decide to make it.
That is the part I'm talking about. The old one is rusted and bent and won't hold the ash catcher ring up to the bottom of the kettle. If I could get the ash sweeper assembly apart I may be able to bend it up and reassemble.
Quote from: Bman on May 14, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Can you post a photo of #22? That bar is suppose to be bent to hold the ash ring in place. You might be lucky and it's fine the way it is. If you need a new one, they're no longer available. If you have a bench vise & some tools/ability, a new one shouldn't be too hard to fabricate. There's a link buried here on the process. Or, you could retrofit a new style ash ring & sweeper assembly. Hose clamps around the leg sockets/retainer ring is the simplest way.
The issue with using the newer regulator & disposable propane tank is mounting it. The old style is straight down while the new one is turned 90 degrees. Since the hose & all is missing, maybe you could mount a new regulator on/off valve to the old location and use the adaptor hose to run off a 20lb tank.
I'm not sure why I'd need hose clamps. It is my understanding that there are tabs on the new one which snap into the little slot in the back of the legs where they are welded onto the bowl. The slot isn't very large but it is about 3/8 to 1/2" wide. I'll have to give Weber a call today and inquire about the new style fitting the old grill. If it will then I may be able to just take my sawzall and remove the old rusted stuff and rebuild the sweeper and catcher.
I've found a ton of sources for a regulator and hose for a 1lb propane tank but I think the trick is going to be finding one with the correct end to insert and clip into the burner tube. Likewise, I've also found a ton of regulators and hoses for a 20lb tank but the same challenge will still be there. Since I may wind up throwing this in the back of my truck for picnics and whatnot I'd rather have the smaller 1lb tank.
re: the need for hose clamps: The challenge with retrofitting a modern ash can ring on the older grills is that back in the day, Weber paid no attention to the orientation of the tabs on the leg sockets. Now, they make sure there is a space to insert those tabs that you're talking about, but back then, they were oriented in a random fashion. You might be lucky enough to have your leg sockets oriented properly, but that's highly unlikely. So one of the mods people use to affix a modern ash can ring is to bend the tabs *back* 180 degrees, then use a hose clamp to wrap around the whole leg socket and attach the new ash can ring.
re: getting the old stuff off: it'll be tough to fit a sawzall into that tight space. An easier approach is to cut off the round metal ash sweep handle that goes through the large nut to allow the large nut to push up through the bowl. pbe gummi has a great recent thread where he details this with many photos.
Quote from: 1buckie on May 14, 2013, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 14, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
There is a thread with a regulated retro. Buckie will post, he always finds the old threads.
AHhhhhh....Ahhhhh................Oweeee.....Ouch.......gas assist.....you've got me by the Achilles Heel...... :o
"regulated retro".....meaning from what to which?
Just describe this a bit more.............then maybe I can find it
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 14, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
Mike, I have all the engineering drawings and sheet metal template from this ash catcher bar thread:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/diy-old-style-one-touch-gold-ash-catcher-bar/msg31366/#msg31366
I can post them for you tomorrow should you decide to make it.
Go ahead if you have a minute....the Brownie MasterTouch is in somewhat worse shape than I 1st thought....needs this, most likely.....TNX !!
PBE was on it, here is the one with the links on where to purchase the parts.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/performer-regulator-question/msg18705/#msg18705
PBE Gummi, I looked at your thread on the red Performer and saw where you cut the handle off for the ash sweeper. Is that handle seriously the only think heeping you from pushing the sweeper nut back into the kettle and removing that whole assembly?
Also, the bracket that holds the ash ring on... how is that attached, and does that just come right off once the handle is cut off? Based on your photos and description, it looks like that handle holds everything together and merely cutting it off makes everything fall/come apart. If this is the case I may be able to salvage the bracket and rebend it to hold the ash ring or at least use it as a template to make a new one.
Last, in the link just posted for the Mr Heater regulator, is the end on it with the ruber o-ring the end that simply clips into the burner tube? That would make things so much easier, though if I ordered a new regulator assembly from Weber, it should just have the new style end on it, enabling me to use a 5, 11, or 20lb propane tank, correct? Given that this stuff can cost $50 or more I don't want to play trial and error, unlike a few nuts and bolts.
Quote from: mikeinctown on May 15, 2013, 05:52:33 AM
PBE Gummi, I looked at your thread on the red Performer and saw where you cut the handle off for the ash sweeper. Is that handle seriously the only think heeping you from pushing the sweeper nut back into the kettle and removing that whole assembly?
Also, the bracket that holds the ash ring on... how is that attached, and does that just come right off once the handle is cut off? Based on your photos and description, it looks like that handle holds everything together and merely cutting it off makes everything fall/come apart. If this is the case I may be able to salvage the bracket and rebend it to hold the ash ring or at least use it as a template to make a new one.
Yeah, that is correct. The thumbscrew in the middle is supposed to release the handle and everything will pop out. They always rust though so usually they need to be cut. You should be able to reuse the bar if it isn't rusted through.
Mike - there's some good photos of the ash catcher bar & sweeper nut assembly in this thread.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/trading-post/looking-to-purchase-performer-parts/msg27474/#msg27474
PS - here's the link I was pointed to for making your own replacement bar.
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?23649-COMPLETED!-Red-Weber-SS-Performer-Restoration-20-CL-score-Now-with-pics!!
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 15, 2013, 04:33:16 AM
PBE was on it, here is the one with the links on where to purchase the parts.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/performer-regulator-question/msg18705/#msg18705
Hey it looks like the parts on this thread is JUST for the regulator. You will still need the hoses, qcc1 adapter, etc.
Mike you just order the regulator assembly for the 1lb tanks here: http://www.ereplacementparts.com/weber-1421001-2010-touchngo-performer-grill-parts-c-193079_193086_193497.html part number 28
The regulator that goes on the gas go anywhere would also seem to fit directly to the end of the burner tube: http://www.ereplacementparts.com/valve-and-regulator-p-1477066.html weber part number 52603. The drawback is that the knob may be in an awkward to reach position and the tank is closer to the bowl. I have not verified if it fits but usually the Home Depot has them on display for you to tinker with.
Found the old style Regulator at ereplacements, still available.
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/hose-and-regulator-assembly-p-1477479.html
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 15, 2013, 06:29:45 AM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 15, 2013, 04:33:16 AM
PBE was on it, here is the one with the links on where to purchase the parts.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/performer-regulator-question/msg18705/#msg18705
Hey it looks like the parts on this thread is JUST for the regulator. You will still need the hoses, qcc1 adapter, etc.
Mike you just order the regulator assembly for the 1lb tanks here: http://www.ereplacementparts.com/weber-1421001-2010-touchngo-performer-grill-parts-c-193079_193086_193497.html part number 28
The regulator that goes on the gas go anywhere would also seem to fit directly to the end of the burner tube: http://www.ereplacementparts.com/valve-and-regulator-p-1477066.html weber part number 52603. The drawback is that the knob may be in an awkward to reach position and the tank is closer to the bowl. I have not verified if it fits but usually the Home Depot has them on display for you to tinker with.
I don;t recomend that you use the Go Anywhere regulator unlesss you can easily get to it.
I would just update to the newer OPD style and use any tank you like. Sure the smaller ones fit better, but I have seen a full size tank under an SS table.
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 15, 2013, 06:33:22 AM
Found the old style Regulator at ereplacements, still available.
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/hose-and-regulator-assembly-p-1477479.html
Thanks. When did they switch to opd on the ss performer? I thought they were all quick release rv style
How about some piocs. You may not need all the parts that yuo think.
If the regulator and hose are good, canyuo just change the fitting on the end?
I did that on a gas grill.. Be sure to use teflon tape or thread sealer that is made for Gas fittings.
Of course do a leak test.
Also, you may not have to cut off your ash catcher assemble, sometimes a little penetrationg oil and patience can get it off. Just depends on how rusted it is.
Here is a few pics.
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Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 15, 2013, 06:42:10 AM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 15, 2013, 06:33:22 AM
Found the old style Regulator at ereplacements, still available.
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/hose-and-regulator-assembly-p-1477479.html
Thanks. When did they switch to opd on the ss performer? I thought they were all quick release rv style
I have seen some of the last of the SS Performers with the newer SS OT and the OPD valve on the tank. Probably circa 2004. I should have made some notes, but I sold that grill and kept a red one.
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 15, 2013, 06:42:10 AM
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 15, 2013, 06:33:22 AM
Found the old style Regulator at ereplacements, still available.
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/hose-and-regulator-assembly-p-1477479.html
Thanks. When did they switch to opd on the ss performer? I thought they were all quick release rv style
Not sure. both mine are quick release, but one has the OPD threading the other not, but is has the correct OPD style handle.
You guys are awesome. I was able to pop the ash ring off, then I applied a ton of heat to the nut at the bottom. Was able to twist it out with some pliers. The handle was another story and was rusted solid so that busted right off. the sweeper part fell right off as did the ash ring holder. It's not as bad as I thought and is salvagable. Will wire wheel it then paint with some high heat black. So I need a new sweeper assembly and all will be golden again. (and at least usable!)
I did try to remove the bolts that held in the lid bale and ignitor assembly. Those were rusted solid and may need to be cut off. I think I'll try an impact gun first.
I also realized I can probably make an L shaped bracket and attach it to the front panel on the back side with stainless screws, then pop a hole in the front panel and mount the new style regulator.The on/off gas control with come through the front like on the newer models.
Quote from: mikeinctown on May 15, 2013, 09:14:30 AM
You guys are awesome. I was able to pop the ash ring off, then I applied a ton of heat to the nut at the bottom. Was able to twist it out with some pliers. The handle was another story and was rusted solid so that busted right off. the sweeper part fell right off as did the ash ring holder. It's not as bad as I thought and is salvagable. Will wire wheel it then paint with some high heat black. So I need a new sweeper assembly and all will be golden again. (and at least usable!)
I did try to remove the bolts that held in the lid bale and ignitor assembly. Those were rusted solid and may need to be cut off. I think I'll try an impact gun first.
I also realized I can probably make an L shaped bracket and attach it to the front panel on the back side with stainless screws, then pop a hole in the front panel and mount the new style regulator.The on/off gas control with come through the front like on the newer models.
That's great, Mike. If you have access to impacts and torches a small L bracket will not be a problem. post up pics of the process and final product if you can.
Sweet fund Mike. That thing is in about the same shape as mine was when I got it, you can getting looking nice in no time.
Mine was missing the propane tank , but it had the pipe and on/off valve, so this is what I built for mine. Hope this helps.
I bought a weber portable/picnic grill for $10 and stripped the regulator off of it. Just went to the local Do It Best store and they hooled me up with some fittings to get it the right size for the pipe.
Top View
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/4wcf_r3LV97cLawKf7R_os_SibBwiOhCK57uoDFamw=w339-h190-p-no)
Cover removed
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/ycKyOmoyHbzCdv7nriLFxV5ssHr4jbunjeYftgAJyw=w385-h216-p-no)
Under side view
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/ZkvJYwEb3p47W6mC1Y9D92QcoFdQhsdEZ5TrVV4b0w=w123-h216-p-no)
Side view
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It's literally just a piece of 4in pvc and a couple pieces of wood, cut to space it out so it lines up centered in the cover. I used the original tank bracket on the side.
Hope this gives you some guidance, or misguidance....lol
Thanks
Brent
That is a sweet mod B!
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Hey Brent,
What model Weber gas grill did you take that regualtor off of? It doesn;t look like a Go anywhere or a Q model.. At least not any I have seen.. Thanks, AJ 8)
Haaaaa, nice catch
AJ, now that you point that out, I started with a Weber regulator, but it went bad, so I just used one off of another grill I had laying around, its not a Weber regulator. I think any regulator, for 1lb propane, should work. Mine has been fine for 2 years now
Brent
Quote from: Big B on May 16, 2013, 04:07:06 AM
Haaaaa, nice catch
AJ, now that you point that out, I started with a Weber regulator, but it went bad, so I just used one off of another grill I had laying around, its not a Weber regulator. I think any regulator, for 1lb propane, should work. Mine has been fine for 2 years now
Brent
We won't tell. Its good to know that you salvaged parts from a grill that probably would have hit the landfill.
Webers even resuce other grills! 8)
Almost done with the build. Didn't try to make it factory new, only get it to sort of proper working order.
I disassembled everything I could, and wound up having to cut out the old ash sweepers. The bracket that holds up the ash pan ring was bent, so I went to work with a hammer getting that back into shape. It was fairly rusty but it was still thick enough to be solid.
Once I got everything apart, I took an angle grinder to the three bolts in the bowl and ground the heads off as they were rusted in place. One complete, I pressure washed and scrubbed with some purple degreaser I got at Costco.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7406/8784881859_a90305466a_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8784881859/)
IMAG0677 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8784881859/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
While I disassembled the grill, Weber delivered a nice box of goodies I needed to order in order for repair. Two casters, a lid bale, ash sweeper, thermometer, and a handful of the charcoal baskets.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8138/8784909147_df56ef9361_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8784909147/)
IMAG0656 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8784909147/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
After removing the bolts, I was able to take the burner tube and hose it out with water. The spark ignitor works fine, and if not held to metal, delivers a nice little shock. I painted the bracket really quick with some high heat rust oleum black, then gave it a quick shot of some blue I had laying around, so it would look better. I then reassembled it and bolted it in using some stainless hardware I picked up at Lowes.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5456/8795463536_84d2f85ac4_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8795463536/)
IMAG0679 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8795463536/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
The original lid bale was missing, so I installed a new one, again using stainless hardware to secure the middle bracket to the kettle. I also dropped the new ash sweeper in place. It isn't super tight to the bowl in all places, but it is pretty good and I'm sure will seal just fine once some ash and dirt is built up.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/8795472386_ebc265ab04_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8795472386/)
IMAG0682 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8795472386/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
After installing the burner tube, I took the can of high heat and put a couple shots of paint on to the areas that were rusting. (the can says it has rust inhibitor) I also painted the ash sweeper bracket, and gave the ring a quick scrub with some scotchbrite. If I had access to a wire wheel, this would have been the time. I also installed the sweeper assembly and found that when using the original ring bracket, that you cannot use the metal "washer" supplied with the new sweeper assembly. After reading through the instructions again, I may have installed the sweeper backwards, where the sweeper may be open while the handle is to the left, instead of closed. Regardless, it is easy to disassemble, and works fine the way it is.
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IMAG0681 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8784889975/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
Once the bottom was put together, I attached the bottom bowl to the cart, again using stainless hardware. I then put the new thermometer in place. -the metal where the thermometer goes was pretty sad looking so I polished it on my buffer. It is now a mirror finish and looks amazing I then rigged up the ignitor button and dropped the charcoal bin back in place. While I was cleaning out the charcoal bin I managed to find the little hook that Weber supplied to move the charcoal baskets around. I has also installed the casters I got, but didn't think to take a photo of that process.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3695/8795478196_b3fe48db2c_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8795478196/)
IMAG0684 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8795478196/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
The ash catcher isn't in place because I need to pound a few dents out and clean up the handle as well as the pan. I may paint this with the high temp black, as I think it would look pretty cool. Even the blue would look cool as well. I did get a grill cover with it, but it has a 6" tear in it that I will need to fix before I can use it.
When I got the grill, it was missing the tank and regulator assembly. PBI gummy was kind enough to send me out an original regulator that I will be installing. If I can figure out an adapter for it, I'll most likely buy an 11lb tank as he had done and then rig up a bracket to hang it. Overall I spent $110 on the grill, including all the new parts I bought from Weber. ($10 of that was stainless that I really didn't need, just wanted)
Wish I has more pics of the process but pulling a phone out of your pocket and trying to use it with dirty hands isn't a chore I care to do a lot of.
<edit> the stainless looks like hell in that last photo, but it is very clean. It looks that way because of all the rags I had sitting on it while working, then wiping off the dirt and other stuff that would fall onto the table. I'll probably wind up hitting it with 220 sandpaper to get a totally clean scratch free look. However, it is plenty clean for use right now.
Very nice, Mike! I'm pretty sure that hook that you are talking about is for lighting the tube with a match when the igniter dies.
It just occured to me- can you use a locking setscrew collar in between the "H" to hold the ash sweeper handle in place while retaining the old style ashbar?
(http://i21.geccdn.net/site/images/n-picgroup/81565.jpg)
What do you mean by hold it in place? The way the new sweepers work is that there is a little tab on the handle that slides through a notch. Once you slide it through the notch you give it a 180* turn and it won't pull back out.
Didn't even think of using a match. The hook end is perfect for grabbing the holes they placed on either side of the charcoal baskets to move them around.
Quote from: mikeinctown on May 22, 2013, 06:28:33 PM
What do you mean by hold it in place? The way the new sweepers work is that there is a little tab on the handle that slides through a notch. Once you slide it through the notch you give it a 180* turn and it won't pull back out.
Didn't even think of using a match. The hook end is perfect for grabbing the holes they placed on either side of the charcoal baskets to move them around.
Roger that. You aren't using the washer with the H though right? Doesn't the handle spin around but not pull out unless it's lined up with the keyway?
I see what you are talking about. The new little washer has a slot that the handle should snap into. Since the old catcher support doesn't allow that little tab, the handle is allowed to turn freely. Not sure how you would keep the handle from turning unless you used one of your collars that had a ground side placed against the bracket so that the handle couldn't be twisted.
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Mike, That's exactly what I thought! The "missing link" is some kind of locking block is what someone would need to adapt an old style ashbar to the new one touch. If only I could get my hands on the new style "H" one touch I could mock one up! This is karma for sending you the regulator, lol. I have been thinking about this problem for weeks since I don't have the parts!
What is this new style H you are talking about? Is it the ash ring? Or are you talking about the new ash sweep handle and that little clip thing? I have a 2005 performer as well that I could take some pictures of, or get you some measurements.
Quote from: mikeinctown on May 22, 2013, 07:58:05 PM
What is this new style H you are talking about? Is it the ash ring? Or are you talking about the new ash sweep handle and that little clip thing? I have a 2005 performer as well that I could take some pictures of, or get you some measurements.
Hi Mike, the new style H is the new ash sweep handle and clip thing. People call it an H because of the pattern in the stamped parts. Thanks for the offer on measurements but I'm a very visual kind of guy so I'll just wait. :)
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 22, 2013, 06:46:21 PM
Mike, That's exactly what I thought! The "missing link" is some kind of locking block is what someone would need to adapt an old style ashbar to the new one touch. If only I could get my hands on the new style "H" one touch I could mock one up! This is karma for sending you the regulator, lol. I have been thinking about this problem for weeks since I don't have the parts!
PBE, I was just going to send a message and wanted a picture. In the illustration above, Your bracket can be the same thickness. To accept the "H" style system, the piece that drops through the bowl and sweeps needs to be made longer to accept the new tolerance. Make sense?
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 22, 2013, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: mikeinctown on May 22, 2013, 07:58:05 PM
What is this new style H you are talking about? Is it the ash ring? Or are you talking about the new ash sweep handle and that little clip thing? I have a 2005 performer as well that I could take some pictures of, or get you some measurements.
Hi Mike, the new style H is the new ash sweep handle and clip thing. People call it an H because of the pattern in the stamped parts. Thanks for the offer on measurements but I'm a very visual kind of guy so I'll just wait. :)
I'm visual to, just can't explain it correctly...
Quote from: glrasmussen on May 22, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 22, 2013, 06:46:21 PM
Mike, That's exactly what I thought! The "missing link" is some kind of locking block is what someone would need to adapt an old style ashbar to the new one touch. If only I could get my hands on the new style "H" one touch I could mock one up! This is karma for sending you the regulator, lol. I have been thinking about this problem for weeks since I don't have the parts!
PBE, I was just going to send a message and wanted a picture. In the illustration above, Your bracket can be the same thickness. To accept the "H" style system, the piece that drops through the bowl and sweeps needs to be made longer to accept the new tolerance. Make sense?
Honestly, the new clip thing is the same thickness, or at least appears to be the same thickness as the old bracket that holds up the ash ring. So yeah, if you wanted to place both the washer deal AND the bracket in place, then the stamped U shape part would need to be extended by the thickness of the washer.
PBE Gummi was nice enough to send me his old regulator assembly as he couldn't rig up the proper propane connector and IIRC he bought a new one. Got it home and looked at my Bayou Classic sitting there and pulled the connector off... Fit like a glove. So, if anyone has the old quick connect on your SS, there are valves out there that will fit the threaded connection at the regulator.
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Quote from: mikeinctown on May 23, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
PBE Gummi was nice enough to send me his old regulator assembly as he couldn't rig up the proper propane connector and IIRC he bought a new one. Got it home and looked at my Bayou Classic sitting there and pulled the connector off... Fit like a glove. So, if anyone has the old quick connect on your SS, there are valves out there that will fit the threaded connection at the regulator.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/8796629801_3e49428ae2_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8796629801/)
IMAG0694 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86582891@N04/8796629801/) by mikeinctown (http://www.flickr.com/people/86582891@N04/), on Flickr
Great work, Mike! I'm happy it worked out for you!