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Grill Talk => Weber Kettle Forum => Topic started by: Scott Zee on September 19, 2017, 04:10:23 PM

Title: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Scott Zee on September 19, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
So this is the pan from the transition '59 Chestnut I picked up a few weeks ago. 2 of the clips are missing, there are multiple rust through spots, most are tiny. The pan has a porcelain coating on the underside which you see has lots of rust as well. Here's my question, would I do more harm than good trying to clean it up? I'm hoping there's a few guys who have dealt with these pans before.  I do actually like the patina on the top side...thanks
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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Rub on September 19, 2017, 05:24:25 PM
I have no experience with something like this, but I would likely leave it as it is. It looks natural. If you clean it the holes will still be there but it won't look as natural. JMO.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Travis on September 19, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
Leave it!


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: kettlebb on September 19, 2017, 05:40:29 PM
I agree with @Rub that it will likely look worse cleaned up.


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: iCARRY on September 19, 2017, 05:42:14 PM
Leave it alone.


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: crowderjd on September 19, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
I vote clean it up if possible.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: TheDude on September 19, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
How is it being held up with just one clip? If you can use, as is. Use as is.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: SacramentoWeber on September 19, 2017, 06:59:14 PM
Leave it


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Jon on September 19, 2017, 10:39:51 PM
Hang it, untouched, on the wall over your television. Order one of the reproductions from the Member Sales & Trades page.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: harris92 on September 20, 2017, 02:20:12 AM
Absolutely you should clean up the pan, legs and any other parts with active rust. The rust will continue to destroy the metal if not addressed. I only use Evaporust. It is a wonderful product. I've cleaned a glen blue like your grill and am starting on another in the near future.

Also your grill is a 1960/early 1961. I've seen them in black, glen blue, and now chestnut.


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: swamprb on September 20, 2017, 02:25:01 AM
Rhino Liner
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: harris92 on September 20, 2017, 02:48:39 AM
Here is a before and after pic of mine using only evaporust.

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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Rub on September 20, 2017, 04:13:51 AM
Wow that's a beauty.


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Scott Zee on September 20, 2017, 04:28:36 AM
Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

@TheDude currently when I do hang it I use another twist on pan underneath to hold it up...eventually I'd like to add a couple clips

@harris92   Stephen, thanks so much for your input. I was hoping someone had dealt with one before. Your Glen....what a difference, thanks

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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: MDurso on September 20, 2017, 05:30:31 AM
Well..  there is no patina.  patina is just oxidation on copper/bronze.. Rust, sure.  Give clean up a go, you got nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: BillA from CA on September 20, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
Some steel corrosion products are hydroscopic; they absorb and hold moisture, which further supports on-going corrosion.  Unless you are planning to store this in a dry, controlled environment I would clean it to bare metal and consider coating it. If you don't want to paint it at least consider using a water repellent, transparent, silicone-based product.  I have had good luck using ICE silicone-based automotive finish polish.  After many grilling sessions after my lid was exposed to temperatures above 400 deg F the lid continues to repel water after I put ICE on it several weeks ago.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Bob BQ on September 20, 2017, 08:08:43 AM
Quote from: BillA from CA on September 20, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
consider coating it.

This ^. I've used Rustoleum 500° Clear Enamel spray paint on several triangles and older SJ legs that I've cleaned up. Looks good, and should prevent further rust.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 20, 2017, 08:11:15 AM
YES, rust truly does "never sleep." Clean, polish, protect as harris92 said.


What can he do about the pitting and the tiny holes?

Is there something that can fill them in, smoothly, AND still resist sparks or dropped charcoal?

In a kettle bowl I'd be inclined to patch a tiny hole or two with a dab of J-B Weld.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: AZ Monsoon on September 20, 2017, 08:29:26 AM
Agreed. Evaporust is fantastic. I wouldn't clear coat it, paint etc...

Go easy on the Evaporust. You can always put the part in for longer. I forgot about a triangle and left it submerged for two or three days.... Didn't turn out well

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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: MrHoss on September 20, 2017, 10:35:07 AM
Listen to whatever Harris says....pretty much always.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Lowbrass on September 20, 2017, 10:36:08 AM

Quote from: addicted-to-smoke on September 20, 2017, 08:11:15 AM
In a kettle bowl I'd be inclined to patch a tiny hole or two with a dab of J-B Weld.

I have a kettle with two tiny pin holes in it.  Would the JB Weld work for those?  Does it stand up to heat?


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Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: MacEggs on September 20, 2017, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Lowbrass on September 20, 2017, 10:36:08 AM

Quote from: addicted-to-smoke on September 20, 2017, 08:11:15 AM
In a kettle bowl I'd be inclined to patch a tiny hole or two with a dab of J-B Weld.

I have a kettle with two tiny pin holes in it.  Would the JB Weld work for those?  Does it stand up to heat?

I have used the high-temp JB weld on the bowl for a kettle restore.  Still holding up after 4 years.
However, I don't use that kettle much anymore, but I used it a lot after the restore.  Held up rather nicely.

Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: Hell Fire Grill on September 20, 2017, 11:10:31 AM
I'd soap & water wash it and let it keep ITs character. They dont all need to look new again IMO.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: JDD on September 20, 2017, 11:20:24 AM
I would clean it as much as possible without destroying it. You need to control the rust from further damage.
Title: Re: Clean up??? or leave as is
Post by: cbpeck on September 21, 2017, 10:48:13 PM
@harris92 - I recently used evaporust for the first time on a set of lug nuts. Amazing stuff. Never used it on a kettle, but when I saw that rusty ash pan it was my first thought. Highly recommended.