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Title: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: Troy on August 16, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glt8Jn2MKgU

He really did a great job with this video. Tons of great information and insight.
Makes me REALLY want a charcoal summit....
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: LiquidOcelot on August 16, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
Quote from: Troy on August 16, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glt8Jn2MKgU

He really did a great job with this video. Tons of great information and insight.
Makes me REALLY want a charcoal summit....
@troy. yea he defiantly did a great job. my only thing about a summit tho is it doesn't seem like it would ever be that go to cooker and for me, for $2000 is wanna use your like every day lol. but could you constitute firing it up for burgers?
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: HoosierKettle on August 16, 2017, 09:13:02 AM
Seeing the leg sockets, I now realize that it's just a 26" normal bowl with an inner bowl added. Is that right?


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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: SixZeroFour on August 16, 2017, 09:22:25 AM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on August 16, 2017, 09:13:02 AM
Seeing the leg sockets, I now realize that it's just a 26" normal bowl with an inner bowl added. Is that right?

It certainly looks a lot like a 26r bowl but in fact it's a whole different animal. Different OT cut-outs (P shape), ATC port, and the double walled construction is a single piece, not a liner bolted into a 26 bowl. Similar but different :)
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: Jet300 on August 16, 2017, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: LiquidOcelot on August 16, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
Quote from: Troy on August 16, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glt8Jn2MKgU

He really did a great job with this video. Tons of great information and insight.
Makes me REALLY want a charcoal summit....
@troy. yea he defiantly did a great job. my only thing about a summit tho is it doesn't seem like it would ever be that go to cooker and for me, for $2000 is wanna use your like every day lol. but could you constitute firing it up for burgers?
My Summit is my new go to ... I use it for everything.  Here's just a few of things I've cooked.  I've even fired it up for a few lowly hot dogs.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170816/f00e0da25011a316e9766a8f4d37fb13.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170816/7c7c75cc2cea951f9c3a72d0f0d0a1f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170816/019905a25ad8d06e2999d4d6916e18e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170816/d6028fe32e623a936399902d4453e4ef.jpg)

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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: Mkrause on August 16, 2017, 10:52:03 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170816/d21fdf490975db354bbc1a375701e3af.jpg) That is freakin' awesome!

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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: YardBurner on August 16, 2017, 12:01:43 PM
I think the leg socket allow Weber to use the
existing attachment technique for the 26 ash bucket assembly.
Keeps the unique parts count down.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: THUNDERDOME on August 16, 2017, 01:05:16 PM
Made me do a local dealer search for who has them... It's a start  ;)
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: fedex on August 16, 2017, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: LiquidOcelot on August 16, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
Quote from: Troy on August 16, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glt8Jn2MKgU

He really did a great job with this video. Tons of great information and insight.
Makes me REALLY want a charcoal summit....
@Troy. yea he defiantly did a great job. my only thing about a summit tho is it doesn't seem like it would ever be that go to cooker and for me, for $2000 is wanna use your like every day lol. but could you constitute firing it up for burgers?

It could easily use it as my daily cooker.  My problem with it is me.  I have several other kettles I like to use also.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: Mkrause on August 17, 2017, 06:00:29 AM
Is there any SC part numbers available anywhere? I'd be particularly interested in the top vent and the ATC adapter and plug...

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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: dwnthehatch on August 17, 2017, 09:46:22 AM
I pretty much have sold off my whole collection to purchase one. With a 1 yr old and almost 3 year old, my priorities have changed to cooking since I have no time for anything else.  I just wish our ACE hardware was selling them at the discount the other stores were. 
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: CharliefromLI on August 17, 2017, 04:21:58 PM

Quote from: dwnthehatch on August 17, 2017, 09:46:22 AM
I pretty much have sold off my whole collection to purchase one. With a 1 yr old and almost 3 year old, my priorities have changed to cooking since I have no time for anything else.  I just wish our ACE hardware was selling them at the discount the other stores were.
That's what's I did and I have no regrets. The summit does everything my other kettles did but clears up a ton of patio space.


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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: TD on August 17, 2017, 05:11:39 PM
I wish Weber would make a dual wall original kettle as light weight as possible. Just the kettle, because you already got an igniter in your Performer. Or someone would make a stainless snap in liner to convert a standard kettle to dual wall. The Summit  looks too big and heavy for me and it is too expensive.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: MDiBar on August 17, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
You don't need a Slow and Sear for a Charcoal Summit.  That's the point of the design.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: Lemans on August 17, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
Love his review.   But it is nothing more than a glorified 26
Especially with the leg sockets that serve no use.
If it was designed from scratch why would it have them??
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: TD on August 17, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
Cause they got the equipment to weld them on , and can hang the current style ash system.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: TD on August 17, 2017, 06:13:35 PM
How bad do you need the extra efficiency of a dual wall?
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: kettlebb on August 17, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
Quote from: Lemans on August 17, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
Love his review.   But it is nothing more than a glorified 26
Especially with the leg sockets that serve no use.
If it was designed from scratch why would it have them??

I'm not buying that and I think this comment is a bit short sighted. Perhaps leg sockets help with the manufacturing process? Maybe they included them for the user that wanted to put legs and a triangle on it? I definitely think it was designed from scratch and the SCG is way more than just a modified 26er.


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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: TD on August 17, 2017, 06:16:51 PM
They did the same thing on the Performer.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: TD on August 17, 2017, 06:22:56 PM
I like the lid vent design.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: fedex on August 18, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Lemans on August 17, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
Love his review.   But it is nothing more than a glorified 26
Especially with the leg sockets that serve no use.
If it was designed from scratch why would it have them??

Glorified 26" ?  Wrong.
Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: HoosierKettle on August 18, 2017, 12:18:45 PM

Quote from: fedex on August 18, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Lemans on August 17, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
Love his review.   But it is nothing more than a glorified 26
Especially with the leg sockets that serve no use.
If it was designed from scratch why would it have them??

Glorified 26" ?  Wrong.

I saw one at an ace. Definitely not a glorified 26. I like the leg sockets. Just reminds you it's a weber.


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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: Jet300 on August 18, 2017, 04:15:25 PM
Yeah. Leg sockets are their thing.  I thought they looked odd sitting there when I assembled my first Performer back in 2014. At the time I thought they could have used some other tab to mount the ash catcher. But, in retrospect there isn't a solid business reason to design a whole other part and have separate tooling around to manufacture and attach a different mount.  When I saw the mounts on the Summit my reaction was "Nice! It's a real deal Weber".

Oh and I'll also concur with the assement that this is in NO WAY a glorified 26" Kettle. I always tell people that pictures do it no justice.  And it's true. I only started to truly appreciate it as I started using it.  It's just a pleasure to cook on.

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Title: Re: babyback maniac Weber Charcoal Summit 1yr review
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 15, 2017, 08:21:44 PM
Just watched the video. I like Baby Back Maniac; he's definitely a genuine guy, not a hyped-up salesman.

Likely addressed in early reviews, but if the Summit Charcoal negates the need for a chimney, as Weber seems to imply, that's a significant benefit given that most charcoal owners (non-Grillfellas ...) don't even know about charcoal chimneys. I have a friend, who has a SS Performer I GAVE him, and he still lights it with newspapers crumpled up and lit from a match.

Point being, for those of us accustomed to chimneys, if I can get the same startup performance outta the grill without needing to load chimney, dump chimney, arrange coals ... I'm interested even more.

re: gasket.
That was disappointing. I'd have expected Weber to consult an engineer, or at least a product planner about the leak. But it sure sounds as if they didn't, and fell back on what limited resources that had: either replace something under warranty without question, or deny the problem altogether. He got stuck in some weird no man's land of an issue but yeah it might've been solved with a new gasket. That said, if the lid gasket's not "user-serviceable" there's your reason.

And yes the leg sockets are a plus here, and not because in 30 years @Hell Fire Grill or someone else will support a curbside Summit Charcoal with hardware store shower curtain rod legs. They would have had to needlessly engineer an all-new way to attach an ash catcher. Even if the bowl used simple tabs, a new ash catcher ring would have had to been made. Glad they didn't.