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Title: D code Brownie??
Post by: bmcneely51 on May 22, 2017, 02:51:37 PM
First off a big thanks to Drew @db3694 for selling this to me...so i thought there weren't any true D codes known to exist?? Have you guys ever seen a kettle marked like this one? I thought it was really unique and i had to have it.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/ddc1e8926bfb69ea957d3267aeb1144e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/49afa6a3ad79668c9c75a3adae52ac74.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/20775a3f397b29490f2595d5d5892929.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/0f38806c931428f07fa400bd7acb86a5.jpg)

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: JEBIV on May 22, 2017, 02:52:43 PM
Wow

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: bmcneely51 on May 22, 2017, 02:59:27 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/f2a8ea869b84dd8372060371e3478295.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170522/4003d657e66953a9738a7001f7c7b4b7.jpg) a couple more...

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: Neil_VT00 on May 22, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
Interesting kettle.  What's going on with that bowl? Is there red on the handles and sockets?

@56MPG did you ever find a D vent for your poster?
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: bmcneely51 on May 22, 2017, 03:57:04 PM
Yeah the paint is crazy! Some weird fade from brown to tan to red in some spots...

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: Mr.CPHo on May 22, 2017, 04:21:56 PM
My brave also has an upside down "D".(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170523/f6cd3ebae2073aef6569727385b32a78.jpg)


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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: bmcneely51 on May 22, 2017, 04:32:37 PM
So d codes do exist???

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: charred on May 22, 2017, 04:49:03 PM
verrrry INterestink.....
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: db3694 on May 22, 2017, 05:13:20 PM
Looks Great !


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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: 56MPG on May 22, 2017, 05:21:12 PM
@Craig  and I had some conversation with @bmcneely51 via PM about this kettle. Not unprecendented to see a D stamp, but not conclusive proof that any of these were full production models. Speculation is half the fun, so you never know, we learn new stuff all the time. @Neil_VT00 I do not have a D on the poster, but maybe the next version will. I have an early no-stamp to add anyway - the one they used after the '52 with the integrated tab, not the welded on tab. It's been a while, so why not? Lots of members have never seen it anyway, and the 5th anniversary is a good enough excuse for a reboot.
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: greenweb on May 22, 2017, 05:24:04 PM
Interesting kettle! Most MBH Brownies have thick darker fade on the lid. This one looks to be one uniform color expect red looking bowl leg sockets and the bowl handle with some interesting color mix.  Very cool kettle.
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: Bob BQ on May 22, 2017, 06:24:46 PM
@bmcneely51 - congrats again on the pickup! Having seen it in person, I will say you're lucky Drew was holding it for you... I've never seen a paint job like that. Truly original, and I'd love to know how it passed quality control.

Quote from: bmcneely51 on May 22, 2017, 02:51:37 PM
First off a big thanks to Drew @db3694 for selling this to me...so i thought there weren't any true D codes known to exist?? Have you guys ever seen a kettle marked like this one? I thought it was really unique and i had to have it.

I believe the first documented "D" was several years ago by @Lowbrass :

Quote from: Lowbrass on November 30, 2013, 06:43:37 PM
Close up of the "D" code for MartyG:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/lowbrass81/fbf62a82-22be-4efc-aea5-bd82e0ab62fc.jpg) (http://s281.photobucket.com/user/lowbrass81/media/fbf62a82-22be-4efc-aea5-bd82e0ab62fc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: JayCee on May 23, 2017, 04:09:51 AM
Interesting. I thought B codes were the last MBH's. Awesome kettle. Love the red fades. My Chief has a bit of red in it also albeit a bit less than yours.
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: 56MPG on May 23, 2017, 04:26:33 AM
For those wondering about the poster. This has been updated several times over the years, and due for another update. Still not sure about the D stamp - it's not the same style and certainly not the standard location. Even so, I say it belongs in the mix with the others. The intent is to include an example of every vent version and date code known. All but one of these are owned by club members! Like before, once I get this done I'll post a link to the large size file on Flickr so you can download and print one for yourself.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7594/28145901586_e125dce895_b.jpg)
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: crowderjd on May 23, 2017, 05:31:40 AM
Wow! So cool @56MPG

Thanks!
Title: D code Brownie??
Post by: Craig on May 23, 2017, 04:50:03 PM
This is indeed a rare bird! I love the uniqueness of the bowl and lid combo. Lid looks like a brownish, greyish dark red and really sets off the lid in a cool way. I'd love to see more of the bowl in bright light or day light shining on it. I LOVE this grill. If you ever want to let that one go, let me know.
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: kettlebb on May 23, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
I'd love to know more about the brownies. Almost looks like it was red coming down the line then painted brown?


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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: Craig on May 23, 2017, 05:01:42 PM

Quote from: kettlebb on May 23, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
I'd love to know more about the brownies. Almost looks like it was red coming down the line then painted brown?


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As far as more about the brownies? The life/production run of the color?
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: Craig on May 23, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
Chocolate covered cherry. That's what this one makes me think of. Love it
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: kettlebb on May 23, 2017, 05:10:19 PM
Yeah Craig. The more I come back to this post the more curious I am. I used to just pass over the brownies.


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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: bmcneely51 on May 23, 2017, 05:50:59 PM
@Craig(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/4e3f0763b81d77f505b00154a6f08607.jpg) here is another pic of the brownie i had handy on my phone. I really love this kettle too! Thanks for the kind words!

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: kettlebb on May 23, 2017, 06:30:41 PM
That is effing beautiful!


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Title: D code Brownie??
Post by: Craig on May 24, 2017, 06:09:11 AM
Quote from: kettlebb on May 23, 2017, 05:10:19 PM
Yeah Craig. The more I come back to this post the more curious I am. I used to just pass over the brownies.


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Quote from: bmcneely51 on May 23, 2017, 05:50:59 PM
@Craig(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/4e3f0763b81d77f505b00154a6f08607.jpg) here is another pic of the brownie i had handy on my phone. I really love this kettle too! Thanks for the kind words!

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Great pic of that brownie!



kettlebb

Brownie was introduced as Copper Mist in 1969 replacing the old Chestnut Coppertone (PAT PENDING w/steel wheels are the earliest browns). In 1978-79 it was renamed Chocolate brown and continued through 1991 "N" code. I'd love to find a chocolate One Touch +/Master Touch. It's one of the longer made and widely available vintage colors. Also one of my favorites. The fade/misting on the lid varied from year to year (high and heavy early on) and got less misting by the time it was renamed "chocolate brown". The base color was more terra cotta like in the early 70s and later took more of a caramel color by 1977-78. Not huge difference unless you pair up a 1970 brown with a 1978 brown and a 1981 brown. My 81 looks more vibrant (almost burnt orange) compared to my PAT PENDING. There's a member here that had a 1991 brown One Touch that had little to no fade on the lid. We've yet to see any browns newer than 1991.
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: kettlebb on May 24, 2017, 06:25:03 AM
Thanks Craig! That's one thing I love about this club. So much knowledge with the members here.


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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: LiquidOcelot on May 24, 2017, 07:05:19 AM
Quote from: 56MPG on May 23, 2017, 04:26:33 AM
For those wondering about the poster. This has been updated several times over the years, and due for another update. Still not sure about the D stamp - it's not the same style and certainly not the standard location. Even so, I say it belongs in the mix with the others. The intent is to include an example of every vent version and date code known. All but one of these are owned by club members! Like before, once I get this done I'll post a link to the large size file on Flickr so you can download and print one for yourself.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7594/28145901586_e125dce895_b.jpg)
this needs to be a poster
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: Bob BQ on May 24, 2017, 08:25:46 AM
Quote from: Craig on May 23, 2017, 04:50:03 PMThis is indeed a rare bird! I love the uniqueness of the bowl and lid combo. Lid looks like a brownish, greyish dark red and really sets off the lid in a cool way. I'd love to see more of the bowl in bright light or day light shining on it. I LOVE this grill. If you ever want to let that one go, let me know.

I've seen this one in person. Very cool grill. After seeing it, I would've bought it from @db3694 /Drew if he wasn't already holding it for another member. My first thought was that @Craig , @zavod44 , @Jeff  , etc need to see this at the July meet-up. If I recall correctly, the underside of at least one of the bowl handles is straight red, as well as at least one of the leg sockets... @bmcneely51 /Bob, if you get a chance, try to get some detailed pics of the color shifts.
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: 1buckie on May 24, 2017, 08:43:15 AM
@LiquidOcelot 

Matt....it IS a poster !!!


Kinda wonder if this MIGHT be a Demo Kettle & they had too many Reds & Blacks & perhaps slapped a coat of Brown on to go out on the road?

I've got a crazy "D" stamp on a Brown MasterTouch....but it's been easily determined that that's not in the time frame for Year "D".... :o
Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: zavod44 on May 24, 2017, 09:03:49 AM
Prob a reject, but I like it

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Title: Re: D code Brownie??
Post by: 56MPG on May 24, 2017, 11:33:17 AM
Maybe "D" means "Dealer" and was one way to get sample kettles out there. Also like the "Demo" thought. Either one makes sense. The mystery continues...

Oh, and yes, @LiquidOcelot it is/was a poster. You can find it here if you don't want to wait for the update:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/28145901586/in/photolist-Tdo85x-MVydFH-JTa6Xh (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/28145901586/in/photolist-Tdo85x-MVydFH-JTa6Xh)

Download the original size if you want an 18" X 24" print. then take it on a thumb drive to Walgreens, Office Max or some place like that that has a good large format printer. Watch for a sale and you might get one for less than $10.