Title: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
On Saturday, I picked up a pristine Brave (18" copper mist). Monday, I scored another Chief (26" copper mist). Must be Indigenous copper mist week.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/28/DSC03414.md.jpg)
It is in really nice condition as can be seen after a little clean up.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03435.md.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03437.md.jpg)
I believe it is a 1978 from the lid vent.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/28/DSC03436.md.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/28/DSC03414.md.jpg)
It is in really nice condition as can be seen after a little clean up.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03435.md.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03437.md.jpg)
I believe it is a 1978 from the lid vent.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/28/DSC03436.md.jpg)
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
That's a sweet find! Not too many of the "later" colored 26ers pop up (1977-80). Congratulations!
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Travis on April 28, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
Post by: Travis on April 28, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
Great find, Jim. That looks to be in great condition. What am I looking at on the lid in the first picture? Looks like a thermo, but no holes in the other photos.
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Scott Zee on April 28, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
Post by: Scott Zee on April 28, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
@Travis its probably a thermo with a magnet on the back. Jim, that's a beauty. I'd love find one of those to add to the herd. CONGRATS 8)
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 09:38:42 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 09:38:42 AM
@ Travis - From the photo in the sale add, I was mortified that someone had drilled a hole for the lid therm. Once I got hands on it in person, I found the lid therm was a magnet type, just like Scott Zee said. I was so happy when it just picked right up from the surface of the lid. I think I unknowingly verbalized my glee as the seller was kinda laughing at me.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Travis on April 28, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
Post by: Travis on April 28, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
Gotcha. That's the first thing I noticed in the pic and felt the same way. I didn't know they made magnetic thermos.
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Mr.CPHo on April 28, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Post by: Mr.CPHo on April 28, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Congrats!
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Darko on April 28, 2017, 09:44:31 AM
Post by: Darko on April 28, 2017, 09:44:31 AM
Wow! Nice score.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
I now have a tough decision. I have two now (this 78 and a Pat Pending 69-70) and have to decide which one to keep. I have way to many kettles and these babies are huge to store. Before I get hammered with requests of interest, the one I decide to let go of is already promised to @crowderjd . Jason also saw the add and reached out hours after I picked it up, asking for me to agent it for him. I told him rest assured, he will be getting one of them. Although it is not in as good of shape, I am leaning towards keeping "Misty", the 69-70 Pat Pending (on the left in the below photo). It is older and I like the wheels, small vent and bowl tabs and the higher darker fade. @Craig - If it was your decision, which would you keep and why? Anyone that would like to chime in, please do. You might add something I had not considered.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03438.md.jpg)
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Travis on April 28, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
Post by: Travis on April 28, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
Wow! Another example of how awesome the members here are. Good on you, Jim and congrats Jason!
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Darko on April 28, 2017, 10:35:11 AM
Post by: Darko on April 28, 2017, 10:35:11 AM
I like the lower fade, but I like everything else about Misty. In the end. I'd keep misty.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: crowderjd on April 28, 2017, 10:37:05 AM
Post by: crowderjd on April 28, 2017, 10:37:05 AM
Jim is THE BEST.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: cumminfourya on April 28, 2017, 11:07:08 AM
Post by: cumminfourya on April 28, 2017, 11:07:08 AM
That is awesome, nice find and congrats to both of you!!! I think there both fantastic but I like Misty.
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Title: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 11:33:33 AM
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 11:33:33 AM
I'd keep both. Misty is "Copper Mist" and the '78 is "Chocolate" They vary in shade of brown as well as mist height. Slap some new white walls on that '78 and you're in business. The '78 browns are more of a candy-caramel color compared to the PAT PENDING browns that are more terra cotta and the MIST transition on the PAT PENDING era is more splattery compared to later browns. They are not the same brown kettle. Sorry to make this tougher. But if I had to choose, keep the 78. Not near as many of the later ones come up.
Edit: But Misty is pretty sweet too! This is hard!
Edit: But Misty is pretty sweet too! This is hard!
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Neil_VT00 on April 28, 2017, 11:43:29 AM
Post by: Neil_VT00 on April 28, 2017, 11:43:29 AM
Another great find. Congrats to both of you!! Both of those kettles are in amazing shape, I am partial to the higher fade though.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: LiquidOcelot on April 28, 2017, 12:01:51 PM
Post by: LiquidOcelot on April 28, 2017, 12:01:51 PM
did they have an avocado 26? or just red black and brown?
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2017, 12:02:19 PM
Post by: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2017, 12:02:19 PM
Sahwheeeet!
Nice find... congrats to you both! Jason's a stand up guy - good to see she'll be going to a good home.
Nice find... congrats to you both! Jason's a stand up guy - good to see she'll be going to a good home.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: tb80 on April 28, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
Post by: tb80 on April 28, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
I like the left one
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: BMP on April 28, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
Post by: BMP on April 28, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
They're both sweet, I think the higher fade looks better, that being said...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170428/ee2e3aa9a37ac70a69ccea217b709e51.jpg)
I believe these are both '78's with different height fades, the obvious conclusion would be the angle of spray, which cause more splatter as well. Maybe Bill thought it looked better higher up on the radius, and Bob on the other hand liked a nice tight ring? Don't know anything more than I'm having the same dilemma as to which one to keep.
I doubt you can make the wrong decision.
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I believe these are both '78's with different height fades, the obvious conclusion would be the angle of spray, which cause more splatter as well. Maybe Bill thought it looked better higher up on the radius, and Bob on the other hand liked a nice tight ring? Don't know anything more than I'm having the same dilemma as to which one to keep.
I doubt you can make the wrong decision.
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: jcnaz on April 28, 2017, 03:13:07 PM
Post by: jcnaz on April 28, 2017, 03:13:07 PM
I like the brown one best!
😅
that is probably not funny at all. Sorry, it has been a long week.
😮
They are both beautiful. Keep the one that you are the most attached to.
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😅
that is probably not funny at all. Sorry, it has been a long week.
😮
They are both beautiful. Keep the one that you are the most attached to.
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 03:18:00 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: LiquidOcelot on April 28, 2017, 12:01:51 PM
did they have an avocado 26? or just red black and brown?
There is one blue 26" that exists.
http://weberkettleclub.com/blog/2013/12/26/26-blue-kettle-flat-top/
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Dtrouty on April 28, 2017, 03:33:00 PM
Post by: Dtrouty on April 28, 2017, 03:33:00 PM
You and your kettle-karma Jim. Great find! I'm gonna go help an ol' lady across the street and see if that gets me some of that karma.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild
Post by: greenweb on April 28, 2017, 03:49:11 PM
Post by: greenweb on April 28, 2017, 03:49:11 PM
Quote from: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03438.md.jpg)
Sweet find! Both of them are in great shape. I would also have a tough time deciding which one. Good luck! You can't lose either way.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: RottiGuy on April 28, 2017, 03:59:59 PM
Post by: RottiGuy on April 28, 2017, 03:59:59 PM
Great find!!.tough decision..
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
Even though Weber stopped naming the kettles by 1978, the one on the right is still a Chief, to me. Especially since brown and red 26ers were gone two years later. It can be the Chocolate Chief. Or Chief Chocco. Which ever one you decide to keep they are both super nice brown 26ers.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
One question I do have is can you do a bowl vent spacing comparison? It's my understanding that the earlier 26ers (small tab) were spaced further apart or higher up the bowl compared to the later ones (large tab) I'd love to see a side by side comparison. Thanks.
Title: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 05:03:58 PM
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2017, 05:03:58 PM
Varying mists over the years.
1977 Copper Mist (left wearing 1975 wheels) and 1978 Chocolate (right) brown kettles 22 for mist and color comparison. Snapped this a couple years ago. Hard to tell from the picture but in person the two kettles varied in shade of brown.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/fd4defada1eb9aedd875f487cdbf0807.jpg)
1970 Pat Pending 18 with 1964 Chestnut Coppertone.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/418e0045619083020cc13a3771249f15.jpg)
1969 Copper Mist 26er. Sporting thumbscrews like in the '69 Weber catalog.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/e9526c7920de582648d724640d89554e.jpg)
1977 Copper Mist (left wearing 1975 wheels) and 1978 Chocolate (right) brown kettles 22 for mist and color comparison. Snapped this a couple years ago. Hard to tell from the picture but in person the two kettles varied in shade of brown.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/fd4defada1eb9aedd875f487cdbf0807.jpg)
1970 Pat Pending 18 with 1964 Chestnut Coppertone.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/418e0045619083020cc13a3771249f15.jpg)
1969 Copper Mist 26er. Sporting thumbscrews like in the '69 Weber catalog.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/e9526c7920de582648d724640d89554e.jpg)
Title: Found a Chocolate Chief in the wild
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 05:26:57 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Craig on April 28, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
One question I do have is can you do a bowl vent spacing comparison? It's my understanding that the earlier 26ers (small tab) were spaced further apart or higher up the bowl compared to the later ones (large tab) I'd love to see a side by side comparison. Thanks.
I will flip them over tomorrow on my lawn and take some comparative photos. Funny you mention that though. I am working on a couple of 18" Pat Pending copper mists. With the legs removed, I set the bowls next to each other today and there was a difference of 1/4" to 1/2" in height between the two. I assume it has to do with the leg socket placements. I will take pictures comparing those also.I have modified the subject title again. I, as well as Mrs Cellar2ful, like the chocolate Chief name. That is why she likes the copper mists so much because she says they look like chocolate.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Heyjude on April 28, 2017, 08:21:09 PM
Post by: Heyjude on April 28, 2017, 08:21:09 PM
Jim, I think you win either way, but I like the one on the left. The fad is nicer, IMHO
And lets see that 18 from Petaluma.. I trust you had a nice chat with Diane..
I would have gone, but it was a long drive and time was not on my side.
Congrats!
AJ
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And lets see that 18 from Petaluma.. I trust you had a nice chat with Diane..
I would have gone, but it was a long drive and time was not on my side.
Congrats!
AJ
@Cellar2ful
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 08:29:01 PM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 08:29:01 PM
@Heyjude - It's dismantled now as I am working on the triangle and wheels. It will be reassembled correctly. Different lighting really influences how it shows in photos.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/22/DSC03401.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/22/DSC03402.md.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/22/DSC03401.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/22/DSC03402.md.jpg)
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Heyjude on April 28, 2017, 08:36:26 PM
Post by: Heyjude on April 28, 2017, 08:36:26 PM
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: Bertl on April 28, 2017, 10:36:05 PM
Post by: Bertl on April 28, 2017, 10:36:05 PM
Quote from: Cellar2ful on April 28, 2017, 10:05:11 AMI like your twins
I now have a tough decision. I have two now (this 78 and a Pat Pending 69-70) and have to decide which one to keep. I have way to many kettles and these babies are huge to store. Before I get hammered with requests of interest, the one I decide to let go of is already promised to @crowderjd . Jason also saw the add and reached out hours after I picked it up, asking for me to agent it for him. I told him rest assured, he will be getting one of them. Although it is not in as good of shape, I am leaning towards keeping "Misty", the 69-70 Pat Pending (on the left in the below photo). It is older and I like the wheels, small vent and bowl tabs and the higher darker fade. @Craig - If it was your decision, which would you keep and why? Anyone that would like to chime in, please do. You might add something I had not considered.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/DSC03438.md.jpg)
beautiful!Bertl
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 29, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 29, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
@Craig - Here are some comparative differences between the two.
There is a distinct difference in the lids. Just below the handle, the Pat Pending (69-70) has a flat, saucer sized area. Getting a photograph showing that flat spot on the Pat Pending was challenging. It is easy to see in person but I had to find the exact lighting and angle for it to show up in a photo. Is this where the term "Flat top" comes from"?
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03461.md.jpg)
It is not present on the 78 and is more uniform in its curvature.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03462.md.jpg)
Looking at the bowl vents, they appear to be the same spacing.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03452.md.jpg)
Putting a tape measure to them I found a slight 1/2" difference in the vent spacing. This photo also shows that both have a flat spot in the middle of the bowl that only the Pat Pending has on the lid.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03455.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03456.md.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03458.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03457.md.jpg)
There is a distinct difference in the lids. Just below the handle, the Pat Pending (69-70) has a flat, saucer sized area. Getting a photograph showing that flat spot on the Pat Pending was challenging. It is easy to see in person but I had to find the exact lighting and angle for it to show up in a photo. Is this where the term "Flat top" comes from"?
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03461.md.jpg)
It is not present on the 78 and is more uniform in its curvature.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03462.md.jpg)
Looking at the bowl vents, they appear to be the same spacing.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03452.md.jpg)
Putting a tape measure to them I found a slight 1/2" difference in the vent spacing. This photo also shows that both have a flat spot in the middle of the bowl that only the Pat Pending has on the lid.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03455.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03456.md.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03458.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/29/DSC03457.md.jpg)
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: Foster Dahlet on April 29, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
Post by: Foster Dahlet on April 29, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
I prefer the lower fade 78....my 2 cents
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: glend123 on April 29, 2017, 11:39:59 AM
Post by: glend123 on April 29, 2017, 11:39:59 AM
Reminds me of the twins I used to have.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/0211f7951bd559651e9861fd195ab18d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Updated - A chocolate 26", not a Chief)
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 29, 2017, 11:54:07 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 29, 2017, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: Dtrouty on April 28, 2017, 03:33:00 PM
I'm gonna go help an ol' lady across the street and see if that gets me some of that karma.
Karen said you should be doing that anyway. (lol) You know she's a lurker on the Forum.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: MrHoss on April 29, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
Post by: MrHoss on April 29, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
Ok. Ask yourself, "what would Harris do?", then keep both.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: LiquidOcelot on April 29, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
Post by: LiquidOcelot on April 29, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
I like small bowl tabs
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: harris92 on April 29, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Post by: harris92 on April 29, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Indeed Hoss, yes indeed
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: weldboy on May 02, 2017, 12:20:08 AM
Post by: weldboy on May 02, 2017, 12:20:08 AM
I would keep them both... or sell one to weldboy
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: WNC on May 02, 2017, 02:38:17 AM
Post by: WNC on May 02, 2017, 02:38:17 AM
Beautiful grills!
I like the higher fade on the left, but might be tempted to keep the '78 cuz it's my birth year
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I like the higher fade on the left, but might be tempted to keep the '78 cuz it's my birth year
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: Craig on May 05, 2017, 05:21:12 AM
Post by: Craig on May 05, 2017, 05:21:12 AM
@Cellar2ful
Sorry I'm late getting back to this thread. Thanks for sharing the measurments on the two Chiefs.
Sorry I'm late getting back to this thread. Thanks for sharing the measurments on the two Chiefs.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: charred on May 05, 2017, 06:31:47 AM
Post by: charred on May 05, 2017, 06:31:47 AM
Quote from: MrHoss on April 29, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
Ok. Ask yourself, "what would Harris do?", then keep both.
LOL
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on June 20, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on June 20, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
Jim if and when you find another 78 copper mist 22.5 or 26.75 please keep me in mind.
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Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 20, 2017, 09:34:00 AM
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 20, 2017, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: inkaddictedchef1 on June 20, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
Jim if and when you find another 78 copper mist 22.5 or 26.75 please keep me in mind.
No problem Matt. I'll start looking.
Title: Re: Found another "Chief" in the wild (Chocolate Chief)
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on June 20, 2017, 10:17:56 AM
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on June 20, 2017, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: Cellar2ful on June 20, 2017, 09:34:00 AMThank you good sir... definitely got the weberitis (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170620/c140746eeb0997c8f5fdb313060ef18b.jpg)Quote from: inkaddictedchef1 on June 20, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
Jim if and when you find another 78 copper mist 22.5 or 26.75 please keep me in mind.
No problem Matt. I'll start looking.
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