Ok guys wife got me the kettlepizza for christmas,so new yrs.eve .few people over we try and make pizzas,store bought dough .my problems,so much went in the garbage,pizza was made on metal peel would not slide off ,tried the pan burnt edges like right.now.my peel.is so messed up .the wife is sick of trying to get it clean,seams like it is junk now.i see you guys do great with it.me it was very disappointed, can't really see doing this again.please if you have successfully done pizzas tell what iam doing wrong.hate to put a end to pizzas. Damn I should of went with steaks.thanks craig
That sucks with your first time doing this but don't get discouraged. It takes practice. I have some questions on what you did.
1. Did you let the store bought dough sit on the counter a couple hours before you started to work with it? Also, did you take your dough out of the packaging and drop it in some flour then set it on a well floured counter or sheet pan or whatever, and covered for the appx 2 hours?
2. How did you stretch our dough? Hopefully not on the peel.
3. When you put the dough on the peel, did you pick the peel up and shake it to see it the dough slid easily?
4. Did you put a lot of topping on your pizza while on the peel? If overloaded, it's more difficult to launch
5. After putting the toppings on the pizza did you check to see if it still slides on the peel by shaking it?
6. Did you try and launch the pizza immediately after putting the toppings on? If not, you need to.
7. Did you dust or rub you peel with flour before putting the dough on it?
Ok, now that I'm done with my questions, this is how I do it?
I hand stretch my dough on a well floured surface, place the toppings on it, dust my metal peel (I rub flour on the surface with my hand), then I quickly slide the peel under the pizza and give it a quick shake to see if it still slides, then I launch it on to the stone.
Thanks nate, nope didn't let the dough sit,yep stretch a floured peel,never tried to see if it would slide until.it was to late,2 pizzas right in the garbage.i guess I needed to read I strucrions on the dough.lot of great points. I'll try it again.thanks craig. Oh and I let the pizza sit on the peel .
Get some wood peels. Bed Bath and Beyond has a great bamboo peel for a reasonable price. To make it slide dust the peel with cornmeal or I like to use semolina. I only use my metal peel for getting pizzas out of the oven.
Don't give up, @cwestsmokin! On a side note, I try not to experiment when we have guests. Only after I've nailed down the results consistently will I attempt for company and even then I get nervous.
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I thought heck it's just pizza,come on over.just when I had the wife thinking I new what I was doing (should of done rotisserie chicken )are aluminum peel has been soaking for 4 hrs. Trying to get it clean .not! Alot of time and money.for me maybe it's just best to have pizza brought to the door .can't believe we might pitch this peel.
Quote from: Mr.CPHo on January 01, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
Don't give up, @cwestsmokin! On a side note, I try not to experiment when we have guests. Only after I've nailed down the results consistently will I attempt for company and even then I get nervous.
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+1
The first pancake always gets burnt. It takes a few more attempts to make the perfect pancake.
Bro...relax! Practice practice practice. Then tweek..and practice more. Don't expect to get it right the first time in any cook up. Your trying to tame fire and time.
Thanks guys ,I asked so now I am going to get a wood peel and try again.i really do appreciate all the replies. I will try what you guys have said.its working for you so.try try again. Yep damn first pancake.lol
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Quote from: Mr.CPHo on January 01, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
Don't give up, @cwestsmokin! On a side note, I try not to experiment when we have guests. Only after I've nailed down the results consistently will I attempt for company and even then I get nervous.
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+1
The first pancake always gets burnt. It takes a few more attempts to make the perfect pancake.
Bro...relax! Practice practice practice. Then tweek..and practice more. Don't expect to get it right the first time in any cook up. Your trying to tame fire and time.
@cwestsmokin That is good advice. Keep plugging away. I'm still learning and tweaking.
Just made some dough, Bobby flay.going to bed bath beyond to get a wood peel.going to try again today. My friends like all the pictures of the clubs pizzas.
Can't wait to see a great lookin pie!
Thanks guys trying round 2. Can't load pictures either.pizza and pictures on this site give me problems.iam in a few car clubs ,for some reason I have no problem,but here.well just can't do it .usally righr7from my phone ,here.photobucket just 2 manythings
I wouldn't pitch the metal peel just yet. No amount of soaking is gonna loosen up charred cheese and sauce. I would scrape it with something rigid. It's metal, it will be ok.
@Nate, great points man!
Ok round 2 was a great success, thanks. Nate, davescprktl, mr.cpho, minigrillen, travis, pbe gumming bear. Thanks for helping me out,big difference. The peel is even clean,went and got a wood one wow with a little flour skid like crazy..thanks for sticking with me.iam stuffed!! Thanks again craig,,,,,,,,, this club is great A ++++++++
Glad it worked out, my first attempt it came out half pizza and half calzone..lol it was a mess.
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thanks again guys , now been working on pics from photobucket, last hour, it just isnt going to work. the pizza was great, photobucket not so much. wish i could share my pics with you guys,
@cwestsmokin I'm glad you didn't give up and gave it another shot! Pretty satisfying when it all comes together. I'd be happy to help you get your pics up, if you like.
@cwestsmokin are you copying the IMG Code? You have 4 options in Photobucket. Pick IMG code and paste it in your post. I love to see pics.
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ok hope it worked
Nice pizza and nice red head!
:)
Nice work, @cwestsmokin!
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Nice pie! Perseverance pays off!
Nice pie! It gets easier the more you cook. Practice, practice, practice and enjoy some yummy homemade pies.
Word of warning though. I see you have an aluminum foil covered grate which I think you are using as a ceiling. That can burn and fall on to your pizza if you have a rippin hot fire. I know this because I caught heavy duty foil on fire in my KP when I was experimenting with different ceilings.
Nice! Glad you got it nailed. Like @Nate said, I tried foil at first and it melted. :|
For pizza sliding, I had the same problem at first, almost went nuts. Now I use wooden peels with cornmeal... I also have a long spatula ... Before I load in the KP, I run the spatula underneath the pizza, then hold the spatula under rear of pizza as I remove the peel. Works like a champ!
Except when the wife brought home some store dough and it ripped. That was messy.
I know this is horrible, but after resting, I put the dough in the fridge... It's easier to roll and stays firm longer for transfer.
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Wow, this was a great read. I'm glad you got it figured out. Nates reply to you at the beginning of the thread had all kinds of good info. You'll get better and better and better at it, then when you think you have it down 98% you will burn the crap out of a pie. I usually make enough dough for two extra pizzas just in case this happens. If I don't mess one up I send people home with some leftovers.
I've had problems before getting a pie onto my peel. I usually stretch my dough then fold it into quarters transfer it to my wooden peel, unfold, then sauce and top. Always lots of corn meal and some flour on the peel.
If you can salvage your wooden peel I definitely would. If your pizza is cooking faster on the bottom than the top you can pick it up with a metal peel then hold it as high in the grill as you can to get the top in the higher heat area while basically stopping the bottom from cooking.
Pizza screens will solve the peel issues. Is there a reason not to use them ?
Quote from: demosthenes9 on January 06, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
Pizza screens will solve the peel issues. Is there a reason not to use them ?
Not really. You'd still have to build the pizza then get it onto the screen. I don't see how you'd do that without a peel. I guess you could build the pizza on wax paper or parchment paper the put it on the screen.
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Quote from: MikeRocksTheRed on January 08, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
Quote from: demosthenes9 on January 06, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
Pizza screens will solve the peel issues. Is there a reason not to use them ?
Not really. You'd still have to build the pizza then get it onto the screen. I don't see how you'd do that without a peel. I guess you could build the pizza on wax paper or parchment paper the put it on the screen.
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Mike, I could have been doing everything wrong, but here was my process. I started with a ball of dough from Trader Joes. I threw some King Arthur flour onto my cutting board and started to work the dough. I worked it by hand and also used a Coke can as a rolling pin. I had a 14inch screen sitting right beside the cutting board. As the dough took shape, I'd grab the screen and put it over the dough to check for size. Dough too small, I worked it some more until it was the same size as the screen. At that point, dough wasn't sticky, so I folded it in half, slid the screen underneath then opened the dough back up to cover the screen.
I then spooned on some sauce and spread it out, layered it with cheese and toppings. I picked up the screen with the pie on top and slid the whole thing onto the pizza stone in the KP. During the cook, I used a pair of forks to spin the screen, which of course, rotated the pie. When the pizza was done, I slid my metal peel under the screen and pulled the pie from the oven. I slid the screen (and pie) off the peel and onto my cutting board. I then slide the peel between the pie and the screen leaving the screen on the cutting board. Next step was done different ways for no reason what so ever. On some pizzas, I cut them right on the peel then slid the pie onto the metal pizza tray that came with my KP. With others, I slid them off the peel onto the tray and cut them there.
Quote from: demosthenes9 on January 09, 2017, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: MikeRocksTheRed on January 08, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
Quote from: demosthenes9 on January 06, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
Pizza screens will solve the peel issues. Is there a reason not to use them ?
Not really. You'd still have to build the pizza then get it onto the screen. I don't see how you'd do that without a peel. I guess you could build the pizza on wax paper or parchment paper the put it on the screen.
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Mike, I could have been doing everything wrong, but here was my process. I started with a ball of dough from Trader Joes. I threw some King Arthur flour onto my cutting board and started to work the dough. I worked it by hand and also used a Coke can as a rolling pin. I had a 14inch screen sitting right beside the cutting board. As the dough took shape, I'd grab the screen and put it over the dough to check for size. Dough too small, I worked it some more until it was the same size as the screen. At that point, dough wasn't sticky, so I folded it in half, slid the screen underneath then opened the dough back up to cover the screen.
I then spooned on some sauce and spread it out, layered it with cheese and toppings. I picked up the screen with the pie on top and slid the whole thing onto the pizza stone in the KP. During the cook, I used a pair of forks to spin the screen, which of course, rotated the pie. When the pizza was done, I slid my metal peel under the screen and pulled the pie from the oven. I slid the screen (and pie) off the peel and onto my cutting board. I then slide the peel between the pie and the screen leaving the screen on the cutting board. Next step was done different ways for no reason what so ever. On some pizzas, I cut them right on the peel then slid the pie onto the metal pizza tray that came with my KP. With others, I slid them off the peel onto the tray and cut them there.
That works! I wasn't paying close enough attention and thought your post was from the original thread starter and was a question. Your method absolutely would (and did) work just fine.
Looks like you got it together. The wooden peel is essential! I've gotten cussing mad trying to get pizzas to slide off a metal peel. You can do it on a metal peel but you have to use about a pound of cornmeal.
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