I would like to add a lid bail to my dad's ots. Anything but black ots kettles are slim to none in my area so I've given up on finding a master touch used.
So is this possible? And is the part number 63058 the part I need. I assume I just need to drill a few holes and install. Is that all there is to it?
I already have a flip grate and baskets coming for him. Adding a lid bail as well would really make it a nice simple set up I think.
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Should not be difficult. Three holes total.
I had wanted to do this very thing to a OTS, then rescued a One-Touch Plus last spring, so no need.
You never know what might show-up on CL. However, this time of year it tends to slow down.
I have the measurements around somewhere. If you need them let me know. Good luck with it.
Like MacEggs said, keep at it. You never know what might come up when you least expecte it.
I will be doing this mod in near future. Cutting the back handle off and drilling 3 holes to add the lid bale assy. Not sure if I should document this or not.
Thanks guys. You should document it greenweb. I've gotten impatient on waiting on used. Cheapest shipping option on Ereplacement parts is $24.95. Seems steep. I thought it might go down by adding stuff but it didn't. I'm debating adding lid therm / bezel and bale to both his and my grill. That would be $140. Might not sound worth it on the surface but given scarcity of used parts in my area and the fact that I prefer the welded handles over the taco makes this option sound more attractive over buying new.
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Done.
1x 63058 bale for his grill
2x 63027 bezel for both
2x 63028 thermometer for both
$92 shipped. I decided I could live without the bale for now. Should be a quick fun project.
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I debated getting a cheap grill therm from lowes instead but I just couldn't live with myself without a stock looking set up. I hate seeing therms without the bezel for some reason.
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Ill be adding a bale to project ZZ top here in the next month or so. Should be easy. Cant wait to see your kettle all decked out with the bling you ordered
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So I just realized I ordered the wrong thermometers for my grill and my dad's grill. part number 63028 is for the wsm. I guess I knew that, but what I didn't know is it looks like this thermometer tops out a 350. The kettle thermometers go much higher. Can anyone confirm what thermometer part number I need and that will also fit the bezel #63027??
I'm guessing I need thermometer 60540? But I'm open to suggestions.
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
So I just realized I ordered the wrong thermometers for my grill and my dad's grill. part number 63028 is for the wsm. I guess I knew that, but what I didn't know is it looks like this thermometer tops out a 350. The kettle thermometers go much higher. Can anyone confirm what thermometer part number I need and that will also fit the bezel #63027??
I'm guessing I need thermometer 60540? But I'm open to suggestions.
60540 is correct for the 22" kettle thermo. I am 100% sure. 63027 for Bezel For Thermometer is also correct.
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
So I just realized I ordered the wrong thermometers for my grill and my dad's grill. part number 63028 is for the wsm. I guess I knew that, but what I didn't know is it looks like this thermometer tops out a 350. The kettle thermometers go much higher. Can anyone confirm what thermometer part number I need and that will also fit the bezel #63027??
I'm guessing I need thermometer 60540? But I'm open to suggestions.
FWIW, @HoosierKettle, I paired a Tel-Tru BQ100 thermo with that bezel (#63027) and am pleased with the results.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161228/6fa5eb50a58135c5b590c63d77b54e51.jpg)
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Quote from: greenweb on December 28, 2016, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
So I just realized I ordered the wrong thermometers for my grill and my dad's grill. part number 63028 is for the wsm. I guess I knew that, but what I didn't know is it looks like this thermometer tops out a 350. The kettle thermometers go much higher. Can anyone confirm what thermometer part number I need and that will also fit the bezel #63027??
I'm guessing I need thermometer 60540? But I'm open to suggestions.
60540 is correct for the 22" kettle thermo. I am 100% sure. 63027 for Bezel For Thermometer is also correct.
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the help.
I was leaning towards weber over tel tru because it looked like tel tru is around $30 each.
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Here is a reasonably priced Tel-Tru grill thermo with bezel from PK Grills.
http://www.pkgrills.com/the-pk-bbq-thermometer-by-tel-tru/
Why waste your money on a POS Weber thermo? If PK can offer this retrofit Weber at least OWES its loyal base an option similar.
rant over
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
Quote from: greenweb on December 28, 2016, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
So I just realized I ordered the wrong thermometers for my grill and my dad's grill. part number 63028 is for the wsm. I guess I knew that, but what I didn't know is it looks like this thermometer tops out a 350. The kettle thermometers go much higher. Can anyone confirm what thermometer part number I need and that will also fit the bezel #63027??
I'm guessing I need thermometer 60540? But I'm open to suggestions.
60540 is correct for the 22" kettle thermo. I am 100% sure. 63027 for Bezel For Thermometer is also correct.
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the help.
I was leaning towards weber over tel tru because it looked like tel tru is around $30 each.
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I've replaced over half a dozen POS Weber thermos on two 22" WSM's over the last 6 years. If they don't fog up and get condensation under the glass they stick and get useless. The same goes with the older Summit grill thermos. What were not replaced under warranty the money I spent to "keep it Weber" was a total waste. YMMV.
Now we could make the argument that I used them in comps and they bounced around the country in a trailer, but
the Tel-Tru's I have on my BGE's and Backwoods are spot on with years of service.
You get what you pay for
Quote from: swamprb on December 28, 2016, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
Quote from: greenweb on December 28, 2016, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 28, 2016, 12:41:04 PM
So I just realized I ordered the wrong thermometers for my grill and my dad's grill. part number 63028 is for the wsm. I guess I knew that, but what I didn't know is it looks like this thermometer tops out a 350. The kettle thermometers go much higher. Can anyone confirm what thermometer part number I need and that will also fit the bezel #63027??
I'm guessing I need thermometer 60540? But I'm open to suggestions.
60540 is correct for the 22" kettle thermo. I am 100% sure. 63027 for Bezel For Thermometer is also correct.
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the help.
I was leaning towards weber over tel tru because it looked like tel tru is around $30 each.
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I've replaced over half a dozen POS Weber thermos on two 22" WSM's over the last 6 years. If they don't fog up and get condensation under the glass they stick and get useless. The same goes with the older Summit grill thermos. What were not replaced under warranty the money I spent to "keep it Weber" was a total waste. YMMV.
Now we could make the argument that I used them in comps and they bounced around the country in a trailer, but
the Tel-Tru's I have on my BGE's and Backwoods are spot on with years of service.
You get what you pay for
Thanks for the info. I got a little trigger happy ordering stuff before I consulted you guys.
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Does anyone know if the lid bale I ordered 63058 is the same bale that's on the new master touch or are they different?
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Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 30, 2016, 04:15:01 AM
Does anyone know if the lid bale I ordered 63058 is the same bale that's on the new master touch or are they different?
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Yes! New master touch has older style lid bale. Only the new performers have the new style lid bale.
Quote from: greenweb on December 30, 2016, 05:41:13 AM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 30, 2016, 04:15:01 AM
Does anyone know if the lid bale I ordered 63058 is the same bale that's on the new master touch or are they different?
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Yes! New master touch has older style lid bale. Only the new performers have the new style lid bale.
Thanks again! I knew you would know.
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Anyone have measurements on where to drill bowl?
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I probably just need the distance between the bowl and bale wire in the center. That will guide where to put upper holes. And ensure lid will fit in slot
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So far so good. I measured a friends old performer and still had to tweak to work right but it fits well.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161230/5fb85889eaea07fdcaa04c7e0025a302.jpg)
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That looks good. Nice work! Sorry, I tried to get you the measurement but I got tied up with calling purolator for my package that was to be here yesterday. They are terrible! They could not even locate my pkg. today, and now I have to wait till next week to get it. :'(
Quote from: greenweb on December 30, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
That looks good. Nice work! Sorry, I tried to get you the measurement but I got tied up with calling purolator for my package that was to be here yesterday. They are terrible! They could not even locate my pkg. today, and now I have to wait till next week to get it. :'(
I feel for you, @greenweb. I've been waiting on something since early November.
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Early November? Bummer. Hope it works out for you guys.
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Quote from: greenweb on December 30, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
That looks good. Nice work! Sorry, I tried to get you the measurement but I got tied up with calling purolator for my package that was to be here yesterday. They are terrible! They could not even locate my pkg. today, and now I have to wait till next week to get it. :'(
Thanks anyways. I went to lowes and Home Depot and neither one had a master touch on display I could measure. Then I remembered a friend close by that has an older performer. I took several measurements. In the end the only 2 measurements that matter is the distance from the outside of the bowl to the inside edge of lid bale. 3". And upper holes 1" from top edge. The other measurements did not work out to be the same which I can't quite wrap my head around. The main thing is just make sure to have the proper clearance between bowl and bail at the center. The rest falls into place.
Hopefully you guy's stuff arrives soon.
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I finished my dads upgrades today.
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Nice work! I did that to a black OTS I had a couple of years ago. When I sold it, I removed the lid bale and riveted the holes shut and spot shot them with high heat black paint. I saved the lid bale assembly for if I end up grabbing another OTS or BAR B KETTLE single bowl handle kettle. Again, sweet mod!
Good job, @hoosierkettle.
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Looks great! I am sure your Dad will appreciate your effort and enjoy this kettle for many years to come.
Nice going with Weber thermo. Just looks nicer with it than other off brand one.