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@Bob BQ and I got into a discussion about Black SJS model numbers and were trying to determine what those numbers are and when they changed.  If you have a NIB Black SJ please post (or send me) a picture of the box that has the model number as well as a picture of the vent with the date code.  

My goal here is to find enough NIB SJ's to figure out the date changes and also to provide a reference to ID SJs in online listings with minimal pictures.

Here is what we have found regarding Smokey Joe Silvers:
Up to 1974 ------------- SJ-100 - Model number appears in '62, '64, '66, '68, '71, '72, '73, and '74 catalogs (offset handle models).
1975 to 1976 ---------- Unknown - Have seen a SJ-100 box that is not an offset handle and no date stamp meaning SJ-100 could run through 1976
1977 to 1983 ---------- 10001 - 1977 from Harris92 seen in post #2. 1979 Catalog shows the three wire leg setup with 10001 model number (as does 1981 catalog). 1983 (E-Code) box with 10001 (first year of loop legs).
?1984? ------------------ 10001 / 50012 - Box with 1982 Copyright and Palatine, ILL. location marking. In 1984 Weber moved to Palatine.
1985 - Unknown ------ 50012 - 1985 (G-Code) through sometime before M-Code (1990)
Unknown - 1999 - 10001 - Have Seen 1990 (M-Code) and 1997 (EI-Code) boxes with this model number.
2000 - Present --- 10020 - Changed when plastic handles were added in 2000.

Here is what we have found regarding Smokey Joe Golds:
1989-1999 --------------40001 - 1990 & 1998 confirmed.  No indication of other model numbers in existence.
2000-present -----------40020 - Potentially changed when plastic handles were added in 2000.
Much less information for SJG's except for a couple of miscellaneous boxes shown below.



The proof so far for SJS's
Weber catalogs: http://weberkettleclub.com/old-weber-catalogs/

1962 Catalog - SJ-100
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/1962Catalog-SJ-100.png) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6v)

1974 Catalog - SJ-100
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/1974Catalog-SJ-100Combined.png) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6w)

1975-1976? - No date stamp wire leg SJ-100
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/_no-CodeSJSWireLeg.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6i)

1977-78?  No Code from @harris92 .

Quote from: harris92 on August 30, 2014, 03:30:05 PM
No letter code on the vents.  The paper work is dated 1977. :)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/07/17/_no-Code1977SJSWireLegharris92_1.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/WjO)

1977-78?  No Code from @Bbqmiller . Paperwork in the original thread (http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/nib-smokey-joe-late-70's/) show wheels from 1977 or later. 
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/08/SJSBox-10001-NoCodebbqmiller.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SLl)

1977-78?  No Code from @mike.stavlund . Original thread here (http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/(re)opening-a-family-heirloom-(pic-heavy)/).

Quote from: mike.stavlund on July 20, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
Pre date-stamp, clearly, but post 1977 which the copyright on the instruction manual shows.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/08/SJSBox-10001-NoCodemike.s.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SLq)

1979 Catalog - 10001
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/1979Catalog-10001.md.png) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S60)

1980 B-Code Box
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/12/12/SJSBox-10001-BCode.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SMK)

1981 Catalog - 10001
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/1981Catalog-10001edit.md.png) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6O)

1981 C-Code Box (from @stellato1976)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/07/SJSBox-10001-C-Codestellato1976.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SLp)

1983 E-Code Arlington Hts, IL Box (1982 Copyright)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/10/E-CodeSJSBox.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S3G)

1984 or later Palatine, Ill Box (1982 Copyright)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/SJSBox-50021or10001.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6g)

1985 G-Code Box
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/10/G-CodeSJSBox.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S3T)
1985 G-Code Box #2 (from mdb240)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/07/06/SJS-Box---10001---G-Code_v2.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fTo)

1985 Copyright Box
Matches to 1988 J-Code box from an SJ owned by mcgolden (http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/member-sales-trades/wanted-to-sell-or-trade-nib-j-code-('87)-smokey-joe/)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/21/SJSBox-10001-1985Copyright.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/Sy3)

1990 M-Code Box (1989 Copyright)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/SJSBox-10001-M-Code.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S68)

1991 N-Code Box (no model number angle, but otherwise matches M-Code)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/SJSBox-10001-N-Code.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6p)

1997 EI-Code Box
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/19/SJSBox-10001-EIBobBQ.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S6o)

2000+ Plastic Handle Box
-This box matches mcgolden's 2000 Sam Adams SJ (http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/midnight-blue-sam-adams-sj-(nib)/msg160342/#msg160342):
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/08/SJSBox-10020-Post2000v2.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SLT)
-Other later year boxes:
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/30/SJSBox-10020-Post2000v4.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SMW)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/07/SJSBox-10020-Post2000.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SL8)


The proof so far for SJG's

1990 M-Code Box (1988 Copyright)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/12/01/SJGBox-40001-MCode.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SMb)

1998 EZ-Code Box
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/07/SJGBox-40001-EZ-Code.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SLg)

1999 EE-Code Box (1996 Copyright)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/12/SJGBox-40001-1996Copyright.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/Wpd)

2000+ Plastic Handle Box
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/11/07/SJGBox-40020-Post2000.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/SLo)

Found an old post from @harris92. Looks like the model number 10001 was used in 1977 (original post updated).

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/nib-vintage-smokey-joe/msg125126/#msg125126

Quote from: harris92 on August 30, 2014, 03:30:05 PM
No letter code on the vents.  The paper work is dated 1977. :)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/SmokeyNIBa_zpsdd20f84a.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/SmokeyNIBa_zpsdd20f84a.jpg.html)

Fixed picture:
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/07/17/_no-Code1977SJSWireLegharris92_1.jpg)

I don't have any boxes left.

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@Darko Thanks for the reply.

@stellato1976 Thanks.  That is a C on the lid right?

Yes that is a C code

Bumping this one back to the first page.  I've added more boxes and what little information I have about SJG model numbers. 

@Bob BQ do you have any better info on the SJG date change?

Thanks! Just got a SJ yesterday with a wood handle and legs that don't loop all the way so I'm guessing it's for the ash tray which it doesn't have. Also F stamped on top vent. 83-85? 


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Further research.  Leg/loops seem unable to hold a ash pan. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170716/8e82aded085213f9ceec38d178249d9f.jpg)


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F stamp... I'm  guessing  1984  of the top of my head.

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I was also leaning towards 83-85. Interesting little unit. Never used one before. Thanks Darko


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Quote from: Darko on July 16, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
F stamp... I'm  guessing  1984  of the top of my head.

Quote from: Bertman on July 17, 2017, 06:03:38 AM
I was also leaning towards 83-85. Interesting little unit. Never used one before. Thanks Darko

1984 is correct:  http://weberkettleclub.com/determine-age-of-old-grill/

Just received this in the mail and hoping it was a birth year kettle of 1982 :(  Opened it up and find a G code but the box is different the ones you posted.

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Quote from: mdb240 on July 05, 2018, 02:41:59 PM
Just received this in the mail and hoping it was a birth year kettle of 1982 :(  Opened it up and find a G code but the box is different the ones you posted.

Is that is the one listed in WV for $20? On Facebook marketplace I think.


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Quote from: Schaefd2 on July 05, 2018, 04:41:45 PM

Quote from: mdb240 on July 05, 2018, 02:41:59 PM
Just received this in the mail and hoping it was a birth year kettle of 1982 :(  Opened it up and find a G code but the box is different the ones you posted.

Is that is the one listed in WV for $20? On Facebook marketplace I think.


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No, bought from a lady in Massachusetts. Is there a 1982 in WV??

Weber Brothers 1950's Smokey Joe. Notice one bowl vent. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180706/bd6a5ebcc3a92d21327f2853d66837ec.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180706/6dd9f4b1fb136b8fca775ef798797699.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180706/83da328b440b013d23f3cf48be483d76.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180706/e1e616e0255c73074882ec4f90bfb0a9.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180706/5144bfc7748e211e5d51a17bd3c689ee.jpg)


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@mdb240 Thanks for your input, I added your box to the original post. It's interesting that Weber had 4 different boxes with the 1982 copyright. 

@harris92 That's a beauty.  Do you have the box/model #?

Quote from: Neil_VT00 on July 06, 2018, 05:56:09 AM
@harris92 That's a beauty.  Do you have the box/model #?

Looks like the same one as pictured in the 1962 catalog....

Nope.  I have seen a '62 in person.  The '62 has a rounded lid handle.  This one is squared.  Also, the '62 lid handle attachment point is rounded.  Again, this one is squared.  The big difference:  "62 has three bowl exhausts and vents.  This smokey only has one.

Quote from: Bob BQ on July 06, 2018, 07:17:44 AM

Quote from: Neil_VT00 on July 06, 2018, 05:56:09 AM
@harris92 That's a beauty.  Do you have the box/model #?

Looks like the same one as pictured in the 1962 catalog....

Quote from: harris92 on July 06, 2018, 07:46:34 AM
Nope.  I have seen a '62 in person.  The '62 has a rounded lid handle.  This one is squared.  Also, the '62 lid handle attachment point is rounded.  Again, this one is squared.  The big difference:  "62 has three bowl exhausts and vents.  This smokey only has one.

Quote from: Bob BQ on July 06, 2018, 07:17:44 AM

Quote from: Neil_VT00 on July 06, 2018, 05:56:09 AM
@harris92 That's a beauty.  Do you have the box/model #?

Looks like the same one as pictured in the 1962 catalog....

Hard to tell from the catalog pic.  Do you happen to know if your '56 was the same model #?




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