Found this SJ in my area for sale. Really good price. Box is still sealed. Guy won't open it send me more pictures. I don't know much about SJs, I believe it's from the 80's, but does anyone have a better idea?
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Looks like at least 1982. but could be later. Depends on the vent code.
New in box, at least '82; go for it if it's a good price.
Yeah seller is asking $15
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Buy it!!!!
Yeah that's a no brainer.
Crimson Performer Platinum "AH", Red MT "P", Red Mist SSP "EZ", Faded Black "A", Black OTG "DE".
Then ship it to me ;D ;D ;D ;D
If the item looks like the box photo (pretty likely) then, yeah, early to mid 80's....see here, not quite halfway down~~>
http://weberkettleclub.com/grills/weber-smokey-joe-history/
The code is for an SJS 3-wheeler~~>
http://weberkettleclub.com/blog/2014/12/03/weber-smokey-joe-database/
1buckie, I saw that the code matched up to the 3 wheeler which would be awesome, but the picture on the box shows a single vent with ash pan. Either way I want it.
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For $15, grab it!!
Quote from: 1buckie on October 09, 2016, 07:19:41 PM
The code is for an SJS 3-wheeler~~>
http://weberkettleclub.com/blog/2014/12/03/weber-smokey-joe-database/
Quote from: iCARRY on October 09, 2016, 07:28:28 PM
1buckie, I saw that the code matched up to the 3 wheeler which would be awesome, but the picture on the box shows a single vent with ash pan. Either way I want it.
The SJ database is off slightly... 10001 code stayed with the blaik SJ after they went to the single vent bowl, "loop" legs. I've been trying to track down when the code changed... haven't had time to really dig into it yet. Here's a box from 1997 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-New-in-Box-1997-Weber-Smokey-Joe-Charcoal-Grill-14-5-Model-10001-Black-/122168045728?hash=item1c71c870a0:g:RZgAAOSw-YVXmRMT) (and wow! a really big picture!), showing the same code:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vUEAAOSwZVlXmRMr/s-l1600.jpg)
OK, it's either 1982 or 1983. at least 82 because of the copyright date, at the latest 83 because the address is Arlington Heights. In 84 Weber moved to Palatine.
Definitely grab it!
Based on my SJ collection and
@Darko 's comment, that is most likely an E-code (1983).
This is the box from my E-code which matches what you found:
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/10/E-CodeSJSBox.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S3G)
This is the box from my G-code:
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/10/G-CodeSJSBox.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S3T)
My understanding is that there are no D-codes (1982). C-code SJs have the earlier wire legs so this one must be an E based on the Arlington Heights stamp and the boxes above.
@Bob BQ It looks like the model number definitely changed by G, and maybe on F. F would make sense if they changed the box as the same time as the move from Arlington Heights to Palatine. F was also the transition from black legs to chrome.
Quote from: Neil_VT00 on October 10, 2016, 06:56:05 AM
@Bob BQ It looks like the model number definitely changed by G, and maybe on F. F would make sense if they changed the box as the same time as the move from Arlington Heights to Palatine. F was also the transition from black legs to chrome.
...and the mystery deepens,
@Neil_VT00 . Not disputing what you're saying by any stretch of the imagination. But why do they still have the 10001 code on the latest style (as illustrated in the 1997 box on my last post).
To muddy the waters even more, here's a pic I held onto from an ebay auction that ended 3 weeks ago. The seller's description states:
Weber Smokey Joe
Model # 10001
There is a "10001 Black" sticker over another model # 50012 Black. Not sure why.
Color - Black
Condition - New in Unopened box
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I'm wondering if they changed the model number to 50012 in 1983, with the new single vent/legs, and then... changed their mind?
@Craig , have you delved into this at all?
Who would have thought my little post would cause all this.
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@iCARRY That's what I love about this place. So much great info/history. Most importantly, is the grill in your trunk yet?
@Bob BQ Pretty interesting info. From your post it seems like the box pic you found would be an F. Any pics of the actual grill? I'm curious if the legs are black or chrome.
Putting all of that info together:
SJ-100 - Early models, prior to A-Code (1979 catalog shows model number 10001).
#10001 - A-Code through E-Code
#10001 / 50012 - F-Code (being a transition year)
#50012 - G-Code through sometime before M-Code
#10020 - Any idea when that started to be used?
At some point it looks like Weber reverted back from #50012 to #10001. Here is an example of an M-Code(1990) box that it labeled #10001. I have a picture of an N-Code(1991) which is the same box and N was the last year of the loop legs but do not have the angle to see the number.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/10/M-CodeSJSBox1.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S3D) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/10/10/M-CodeSJSBox2.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/S3H)
Quote from: Neil_VT00 on October 10, 2016, 08:11:07 AMMost importantly, is the grill in your trunk yet?
This ^
Quote from: Neil_VT00 on October 10, 2016, 08:11:07 AM#10020 - Any idea when that started to be used?
Not yet. I think it is safe to say it was after 1997.
Here's another wrench to throw in.... this listing (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Weber-BBQ-Charcoal-Grill-Smokey-Joe-Wood-Handle-Black-10092-/112157469478?hash=item1a1d1b2b26:g:y3AAAOSwBLlVP9OD) describes the black SJ as model 10092. No pic of that number on the box, though.
UPC code might be the answer.
Time for a new, separate thread on this one,
@Neil_VT00 ?
Seller has disappeared. Not getting a replies anymore. Item was removed. Not looking great right now. Hopefully I can update this with good news tomorrow or Wednesday.
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Pick them up as soon as you can. Possibly before posting about them.
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Yeah hopefully I didn't get beat by someone who lurks on here.
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General rule is if you know you want it and you can grab it then do it. Post and ask questions later. If you end up with buyers remorse someone here would gladly help you get rid of it. Hope you still have a chance.
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Quote from: Bob BQ on October 10, 2016, 01:21:32 PM
Time for a new, separate thread on this one, @Neil_VT00 ?
@Bob BQ I think it makes sense. It'd be a fun little mystery to solve. I'm working on a post about the SJS changes from the B through G years, but I never seem to find the time to dig out the collection to get good pictures.