Arrived today. What could it be?
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8102/8580588153_bd1d2045df.jpg)
Rub it....see if a Weber Genie pops out :D
I'll go with a 90's OTS...... Redhead?
Quote from: Kilted_Griller on March 22, 2013, 06:03:59 PM
Rub it....see if a Weber Genie pops out :D
Rib it with some Yard Bird!
Clue #1: Date code = A
Marty...stop teasing. Open the box, take a pic, and post it already!! :)
Does this ring any bells?
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/introduce-yourself/brand-new-member-with-retro-grill/
"Now I'm going to have to look at that virgin 18 every night and dream of breaking it in!"
It's either a 18 or 22 kettle. Guaranf'nteed.
It's a sweet black 300 series 49ER isn't it?
Quote from: 1buckie on March 22, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Does this ring any bells?
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/introduce-yourself/brand-new-member-with-retro-grill/
"Now I'm going to have to look at that virgin 18 every night and dream of breaking it in!"
Pretty sure you nailed it Buckie!
Mmmm Virgin 18 in a box! 8) Merry Christmas in March to you!
Yeah, 1buckie got it! The swap with new member Michael went without a hitch; he got his red MT and I got my '79 black 18". More pics to come today as I get it together. It will sit in the corner of my place here in Chicago, along with the NIB Go Anywhere I just picked up. Trust me, neither one is going anywhere. Saw that post for a NIB 22.5 yesterday, but can't pull the trigger this time. There will be others...
Marty
"Now I'm going to have to look at that virgin 18 every night and dream of breaking it in!"
Change your tagline & give us a perv !!!!!
we need a new section.....Office Kettles..... 8)
Allright, here's a quickie:
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Hey Jeff, I dare you to call Weber Customer Service and place an order for Part #64701 and Part#69101
Flip-side. Note the metal bowl handles, and the inconsistency in the illustration; three holes in the bowl vents on the exterior view and four on the interior view. And this proves that many buyers are idiots and can't match the "B" leg to the "B" socket to save their life. Keep in mind this came in the A-code (1979) box, but the sheet is dated 1977.
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This definitely corroborates my color hunch of the switch from lime to dark green and yellow to dark blue. Lime and yellow being gone by 1978-79 and the other two colors in their place.
I called them yesterday actually and ordered the stainless steel skewers and spacer (european) by the part number on the box, and I confused the hell out of them. I told them its probably only from European...then they said, Oh...yeah, we can't get that here!
Quote from: Jeff on March 23, 2013, 06:18:42 AM
I called them yesterday actually and ordered the stainless steel skewers and spacer (european) by the part number on the box, and I confused the hell out of them. I told them its probably only from European...then they said, Oh...yeah, we can't get that here!
Darn it! >:( Well, it was worth a try. :-\
Quote from: Jeff on March 23, 2013, 06:18:42 AM
I called them yesterday actually and ordered the stainless steel skewers and spacer (european) by the part number on the box, and I confused the hell out of them. I told them its probably only from European...then they said, Oh...yeah, we can't get that here!
Good going, I wonder what the shipping from Europe would be?
Quote from: Jeff on March 23, 2013, 06:18:42 AM
I called them yesterday actually and ordered the stainless steel skewers and spacer (european) by the part number on the box, and I confused the hell out of them. I told them its probably only from European...then they said, Oh...yeah, we can't get that here!
Price ??
Quote from: Duke on March 23, 2013, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: Jeff on March 23, 2013, 06:18:42 AM
I called them yesterday actually and ordered the stainless steel skewers and spacer (european) by the part number on the box, and I confused the hell out of them. I told them its probably only from European...then they said, Oh...yeah, we can't get that here!
Good going, I wonder what the shipping from Europe would be?
I think I'm gonna contact my friend in Denmark and find the answer to this question.
OK - back to the box - it's emerging. Slowly.
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Letter A is confirmed
This thread is killing me!
You might as well put another $1 bill out to get the next peak!
Quote from: MartyG on March 23, 2013, 12:00:11 PM
OK - back to the box - it's emerging. Slowly.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8583927178_7740142921.jpg)
This gives me a good idea what to stain my '79 redhead's handle.
A little Simi Chrome polish on the top vent. Same for the legs - you"ll see them soon.
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Quote from: MartyG on March 24, 2013, 06:37:18 AM
A little Simi Chrome polish on the top vent. Same for the legs - you"ll see them soon.
Shiny!
Does the simichrome have anything in it that keeps the aluminum from going dull again?
This thread needs to be retitled "18.5" tease" Have you used simichrome on used "cooker" vents? If so, how'd they turn out? Looks fantastic!
Daisy wheel vents cleaned up nice, but they don't shine like the top vent, and I'm not going to spend the time getting there - at least not today.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8095/8585510925_32090b1e86.jpg)
OK mystery lovers, here you go. Turns out she was not quite a virgin, but had seen some action in an earlier life. Just the smallest evidence of a cook or two, and I'm pretty sure she did not go all the way. If (when!) we have a vintage show club meet & cook, I'll bring her along and she will once again feel the fire she was born to embrace.
On a less poetic note, I noticed the bowl section was quite heavy, and it came in at 9lbs on my home scale. Anyone know what a current generation bowl weighs? This thing is a tank! I've had good luck with Simi Chrome over the years. I use it on bike parts a lot, and it stays shiny for years. Thanks again to Mr. Packard for the trade. My first "office kettle" is a real beauty!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8233/8585493827_599c293c78.jpg)
That was said in one of my very 1st posts here.....the older ones outweigh the newer....Mr. Duke shot me full of holes, saying that it's most likely the crusty buildup that increases the weight........
I was thinking about weighing older / newer & also using a micrometer, just to get all scientific & shit....... 8)
PS: Is the SimiChrome an automotive thing, or.....?
Sharp looking 18 Marty.....seems like both parties are happy.
As for the weight difference between old and new, Im with you and buckie. I think the older 18s are constructed with a thicker gauge metal and thicker layer of paint than todays models.
Here's a link to SimiChrome - it's a German company, and yes. primarily automotive. I've even used the stuff to polish lacquered wood, it's not too abrasive. Turns your hands black in a hurry, but that means it's working!
http://www.simichrome-polish.com
I've never even touched a micrometer, but I'd swear the late 60s and 'C' 22.5s I've cooked on were heavier and ran hotter.
I would never question The Duke, but I'd love to see a comparison in weight and dimension of the old vs. the new.
And Marty, that is a real beauty. Congrats.
I might have a new connection that can answer the elusive kettle weight issue: one of the former metal stamping company owners who did a lot of work for Weber. I'll see if she (yes, SHE) wants to join us for a conversation over a drink or two. Who knows what information we might be able to pry out? I sense a Kettle Club meetup coming up again in Chicago!
C'mon Buckie! I would never shoot you full a holes! Just maybe a poke er two. ;) I recall on another site the same question was raised......well by me. ::) A few guys chimed in and somehow it was figured out that they were the same minus the buildup. Having said that, we are the WKC and we get to the bottom of these things concerning old kettles! >:( So lets see what we can come up with. :D
Please let us know what "She" says Marty. 8)
I really think they are heavier.....we'll get to the bottom of this.....just keep callin' this "the Mystery Thread"
"A few guys chimed in and somehow it was figured out that they were the same minus the buildup."
Who were these "few guys"....names, addresses, DoB, mothers maiden, etc.
BooooooooooYa Buckster!!!!!!!!!!!! :P :P :P ;D
Smoke this!
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?2721-Lid-weight
Buckie= :-X
I think the newer ones are thiner too. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. I will get a old 14/18/22/26 and new one on a postage scale and with luck, measured with a micrometer tomorrow. (not mine, but my neighbor works with medical devices and has some real cool tools in his shop)
I hope some other members can check their inventory and we can compare notes.
Quote from: Duke on March 24, 2013, 07:37:00 PM
BooooooooooYa Buckster!!!!!!!!!!!! :P :P :P ;D
Smoke this!
http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?2721-Lid-weight
Buckie= :-X
Still able to search with a closed account....you're magical....... 8)
Quote from: reillyranch on March 24, 2013, 07:43:59 PM
Nouveau voyage aux isles de l’Amerique, : contenant l’histoire naturelle de ces pays, l’origine, les moeurs, la religion & le gouvernement des habitans anciens & modernes. Les guerres & les evenemens singuliers qui y sont arrivez pendant le séjour que l’auteur y a fait. Par le R.P. Labat, de l’ordre des freres prêcheurs. (1742).
Yep, that clears things up.................... :D
Sometimes you got to wonder about computers. That was something I was working on two days ago, how and why it got to this post I don't know. I don't speak French, I was just searching other Countries history of BBQ. Old, old, old school BBQ, even eariler than Weber.
Marty...its a sharp looking grill for a blackie! :) And yes, as far as the Chicago meetup, I'd love to host one by me and have people (that are interested)...in charge of one of my grills and cooking up something they really like to make. I can picture all these colored grills lined up working hard!
Don't forget I have a bags set and a big fire pit for those that want to stay after it gets dark out.
We just need to pick a date that everyone thinks they can make...I think anytime from the 2nd week in June should be safe from any possibilities of colder weather.
Maybe you guys can pull a red 26'r job as part of the festivities. ;)
I'll have mine ready to work...so then there might be dual red 26ers workin...
Quote from: Jeff on March 25, 2013, 04:15:59 AM
We just need to pick a date that everyone thinks they can make...I think anytime from the 2nd week in June should be safe from any possibilities of colder weather.
First three Saturday's in June would work for me.
I'd be up for bringing something from the smoker. :D
Ok, I weighted the old and new lids and found the following:
New 2013
14.5-1lbs 5oz
18.5-4lbs 4oz
22.5-6lbs 4oz
26.5-12lbs 5oz
Old various dates
14.5 -2lbs red wood handle "K"
18.5-5lbs Woodale custom 1956ish
22.5-7lbs 5oz Imperial blue with metal handle
22.5-7lbs 5oz red lid with wood handle
26.6-10lbs 5oz Brown Warrior wood handle
Great info Ed!
Interesting..... So the new 26er is heavier than the old 26er and its slightly larger
The new 26 has the heat sheld and a themometer mounted in it, that accounts for some of the increase.
Probably don't even have to ask you, but they're all cleaned down to metal?
from lifting paper as a printer for forty years, I can tell differences pretty easily & was at least semi-sure this would play out like this...... ;D
I don't know how easy it is for you to do this, but I have several "M" dates that seem lighter than even the newest ones; ever notice the mid-years being different ?
I did clean the older lids, no soot or carbon build up in them. One difference is the 2013 were all black, the older models were all colored. When Weber puts a color other than black it is always a second coat. But I can't imagine the second coat would weigh even an ounce.
I am marginally suprised this thread ended as quietly as it did.
The weight of my ~1969 avacado (22) is noticeably heavier than my 1995 (green) or 1999(red) Mastertouch lids. And those MT's include thermo hardware, and do not have massive porcelain chips that the avacado does. The old lid also seemed to retain heat longer, although that is anecdotal.
My daughter was helping me cook on them yesterday, and she noted the old one was heavier independantly.
Did ed ever get the micrometer out to measure the actual lid thickness?
Funny you mention this. I think the lids on my '58 and '60 Wood Dales are noticeably heavier than my 69/70 Patent Pendings. I noticed this on Saturday while performing inspections.
I believe that as well harris.