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Title: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on December 25, 2015, 09:10:11 AM
I can't complain about Christmas this year!  Regan came through big time with a KettlePizza, wood and aluminum peels she got separately and a bag of charcoal!  Now I just need a good pizza dough recipe. 

Merry Christmas and Happy cooks to everyone and may your new year involve new grilling gear!

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: weldboy on December 25, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
Nice score mike !


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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: LaTuFu on December 25, 2015, 10:03:14 AM
Here is a pretty basic recipe.  Needs time to rise, makes a great crust.  Plenty of variations out there.  Add Garlic powder if you are a Garlic head.

2 teaspoons active dry yeast or instant yeast
7/8 to 1 1/8 cups lukewarm water*
2 tablespoons olive oil
3 cups All-Purpose Flour
1 1/4 teaspoons salt

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/pizza-crust-recipe
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MacEggs on December 25, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
Nice haul!  You will love the KP adaptor.  It's a lot of fun.

Here is a thread with some PD discussion:

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/bbq-food-pics/pizza-dough-2383/

I have used the following recipe with success:

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/10/new-york-style-pizza.html
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Davescprktl on December 25, 2015, 11:06:34 AM
If you suck at making dough like me you can go to Safeway.  In their deli section with the take and bake pizzas they should have pre-made fresh pizza dough.  Its enough to make a 14" pie.  Usually costs about $2-$3 each.   Brand is called Primo Taglio whole wheat pizza dough.  Just let it warm up to room temp, flour and roll out.  No fuss no muss.  Used it for all my grilled pizzas.
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: brettbrown on December 25, 2015, 11:52:38 AM
I second the Safeway dough. I usually go for the white not whole wheat. It's cheap and tastes great. Just make sure to leave it out to get to room temp.
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Jon on December 25, 2015, 01:15:42 PM
I'll will second (or third) all the above, adding that seriouseats.com has an entire section on pizza, including pizza with the KettlePizza.
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/columns/the-pizza-lab/ (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/columns/the-pizza-lab/)
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Maxmbob on December 25, 2015, 02:41:44 PM
Looks like you have had a great day Mike!
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Stringplucker1 on December 25, 2015, 04:57:14 PM
King Arthur flour has a great website recipe section. Made some baguettes using one of their recipes recently and they were amazing.
One thing with pizza dough: Bread flour has a higher protein content than all purpose. Crispy crust, use bread flour. Chewy crust, use all purpose.
I typically use a 2:1 ratio bread flour: whole wheat all purpose. I double up on yeast for whatever the recipe calls for, same for rising times. That's my personal preference for the yeasty flavor and bubbly crust. If you like a NY style crust, your rise is done in the fridge.
No matter what way you prefer your pizza crust, always opt for the higher quality flour. The results will prove worth the extra cost. Cannot go wrong with King Arthur brand, I always have the best results with that brand. Gold medal would be second.
All that being said, I've had decent results using readymade fresh dough from Trader Joes, and frozen from Kroger, near the frozen rolls. Even got a box of 50 frozen dough balls from a food service supply and had dough for a year for about $20.


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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: jaynik on December 26, 2015, 10:22:00 AM
The book with the KP has a good dough recipe. Simple and reliable.  I also try others and sometimes use the safeway dough. Generally the safeway dough is heavier than when I make it from scratch.

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: LaTuFu on December 26, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
Accidentally sent a reply.

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on December 29, 2015, 02:59:05 PM
Thanks everyone.  I've done 2 pizzas so far and the results have been excellent.   I've used the Primo pre-made dough from safeway.  It comes out a bit thicker than I would prefer but has been great for learning how my grill works with the kettle pizza.  I bought everything I need to make my own dough (including King Arthurs bread flour) and hope to make dough sometime this week.
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on December 29, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Here are some pics from my pizza cooks so far.
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Slo-mo
https://vimeo.com/150298494 (https://vimeo.com/150298494)

My shiny new KettlePizza made my performer look really dirty since it hadn't been cleaned in a while, so I spent a day cleaning up all of my grills!

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Davescprktl on December 29, 2015, 03:50:44 PM
Pizza looks great! BTW the shine on the gasser is blinding me!
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Stringplucker1 on December 31, 2015, 10:19:45 AM
Pizza looks Great! KettlePizza is on top of my most wanted accessories list.

I can never get the store bought dough thin enough. Although it's perfect in a cast iron pan for making deep dish pizzas. So that's the only time I use it.

Might I also suggest using a different recipe your first few times, as the results can vary greatly. Once you find one that suits you best, make it a few more times and then it will be like second nature.
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: firedude5015 on December 31, 2015, 06:31:05 PM
I found a dough mix at a local grocery store. Just add hot tap water, knead and oil it and let rise. Works great. The brand is Best Choice, lots of stores carry that as their "House" brand.

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: jkolantern on January 05, 2016, 06:09:23 AM
Great looking pie.  I'm sure you've read this, but a lot of people do the Kettle Pizza on a black grill or a beater rather than a cherry looking colored grill like you're using because of a fear of cracking the porcelain with the extreme, focused heat.  I use a redhead for my high head stuff, but it was $10 and had already been through the war.  That performer is beautiful!  I can't tell if your black is a 22" or a 26" from the picture.  If 26", excuse to get another one unlocked!
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on January 05, 2016, 06:37:16 AM
Quote from: jkolantern on January 05, 2016, 06:09:23 AM
Great looking pie.  I'm sure you've read this, but a lot of people do the Kettle Pizza on a black grill or a beater rather than a cherry looking colored grill like you're using because of a fear of cracking the porcelain with the extreme, focused heat.  I use a redhead for my high head stuff, but it was $10 and had already been through the war.  That performer is beautiful!  I can't tell if your black is a 22" or a 26" from the picture.  If 26", excuse to get another one unlocked!

The black one in the pic is a 26er.  I have a black 3 wheeler (EE - 99), but its a my gf's brother in laws place.  That one is in really good shape as well.  I've been using the vortex on my red SS Performer without having any issues with heat affecting my porcelain so far, so I'm not too worried about the KettlePizza causing issues...yet.  It does sound like a valid excuse to get another grill though.  My gf really likes my red performer, so she might buy into the excuse.  I have a small patio so its more of a space issue than anything else.
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: 3sSecurity on January 05, 2016, 02:55:42 PM
Hey Mike, For a dough recipe check out a book called The Pizza Bible by Tony Gemignani. There's dough recipes for many different pizza styles as well as some good reading about pizza making.

BTW, my wife came through for Christmas with the kettle pizza too and I'm loving it so far.

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on January 05, 2016, 02:59:39 PM
@3sSecurity -  Thanks for the recipe tip.  I have a friend with a really nice outdoor pizza oven and he directed me to this pizza making forum (http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php).  It's a bit overwhelming at first but this place has a ton of good information and lots of good base recipes to start off with.  I can't wait to get this thing dialed in!  Feel free to PM me if you have any breakthrough recipies or tips you want to share!
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: 3sSecurity on January 05, 2016, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: MikeRocksTheRed on January 05, 2016, 02:59:39 PM
@3sSecurity -  Thanks for the recipe tip.  I have a friend with a really nice outdoor pizza oven and he directed me to this pizza making forum (http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php).  It's a bit overwhelming at first but this place has a ton of good information and lots of good base recipes to start off with.  I can't wait to get this thing dialed in!  Feel free to PM me if you have any breakthrough recipies or tips you want to share!
Thanks for the link. I haven't had any break throughs yet, but I just made the master dough recipe from the Pizza Bible today. They recommend making the dough 48 hours in advance, so I'll let you know how it turns out on Thursday.

My first pizzas on the kettle pizza were just made from store bought dough,  so I'm curious to see what the difference is. So far it's way better than the oven.

BTW, what kind of wood are you using?

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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on January 05, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
@3sSecurity - I always use mesquite with pizza.  Before I got my KP I did quite a few frozen pizzas. Even a tombstone wi some extra cheese added tastes great with mesquite.  I think it goes with the crust really well.  Definitely let me know how your dough works out.  The store bought Primo brand I've used twice isn't bad by any means, just a lot thicker than I'd prefer.  I have two dough balls left and will try using half a ball and really stretching it out to see how it does.  If that works 2 pizzas from one $2-$2.50 dough ball isn't bad at all.  I'm sure home made dough is where it's at though which means I a kitchen aid might jump past a rotisserie on my want/need/wish list! 


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Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: Jason on January 05, 2016, 03:50:13 PM
This is the recipe I have been using for 35 years and works very well in the Kettle Pizza. It only takes about 10 minutes to prepare and about 1-hour to rise sufficiently. We prefer thin and crispy pizza and this recipe delivers that, especially using the Kettle Pizza.

1-cup warm water (100*-110*)
1-packet yeast (I use the "original" Fleischmann's packets, not the "rapid rise")
1/2-tsp sugar
1-tsp salt
1-tbsp veg or olive oil
2.5-3-cups bread flour

In a large mixing bowl, I add the yeast and sugar to the warm water and let it dissolve. Takes about 5 minutes. Then add the salt and oil. Mix that around to dissolve the salt. Add 2-cups of the flour and get an even consistency. Start adding the last cup of flour while kneading the dough. I stop adding flour, once the dough is just barely dry enough to pull away from my fingers without sticking. In my experience with this particular dough, if I add too much flour, it gets tough and not as crispy. I cut the dough into 4 equal pieces, that will net 12"-14" very thin pizzas. Put the dough balls into lightly oiled bowls, then place into the oven to rise (a bowl of hot water, in the oven, seems to help the dough rise quicker). I also cover the dough with a clean dish towel, while it rises.
Title: Re: Santa forgot one thing...a good dough recipe
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on January 05, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
@jason - Thanks!  I'll definitely give it a try especially since it only needs an hour to rise

@3sSecurity - here is the stone I have.   http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/pizzacraft-trade-15-inch-round-pizza-stone-with-solid-stainless-steel-tray/1042852612?Keyword=pizza+stone


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