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Title: I'm in a pickle
Post by: brettbrown on November 06, 2015, 05:18:43 PM
I'm having some work do on the yard and the workers hit my performer table and cracked it and also ripped the cover. The project manager called me today to talk about fixing it and hinted that they would just buy me a new one. The only catch is he said we need to damage the grill more before he takes a picture to send to the owners. So here's my problem. I know I can get a metal top, which would be an upgrade, and a new cover. Or smash my perfectly fine kettle to get a brand spankin new one. Little worried about my kettle karma taking a hit. Please help(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/06/4c3955917d52d6f80e19cd5de92122ea.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Cochise on November 06, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
The new ones suck and that's just a flesh wound that gives it some more character....cost of doing business right. Give those guys a pass. Who knows some poor bastard might get canned if they send it to claims.
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on November 06, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
@Cochise might be right. A few thick cut steaks & a fancy new Weber cover might be a good resolution to your quandary. Of course a nice new Copper Performer sounds good too.


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Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: brettbrown on November 06, 2015, 05:53:02 PM
It's worse than in the picture. The table is basically folds it half when you push down on it. I'm going for the table and cover. Smashing a good kettle just doesn't sit well with me
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Harleysmoker on November 06, 2015, 05:53:12 PM
"Honesty is the best policy" Why don't the project manager just buy you a new table and a new cover? Him suggesting we damage the grill more before sending the pictures to the owner shows he is not a trust worthy employee, and I would not want a person like that working on my property, let alone being an employee for me.

The guy that did the damage may get his pay cut or lose his job over this dishonest project manager.
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: brettbrown on November 06, 2015, 06:04:31 PM
I don't think he knows that replacement parts are readily available. Nobody knows who did it so I don't think jobs are at stake. This is a HUGE company and money probably isn't a big deal especially $150 to fix a bbq. The PM is on my shit list so his offer of a new bbq was probably a way to get back on my good side
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Uncle Al on November 06, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
How did they manage to wreck the table and cover?
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: SmokenJoe on November 06, 2015, 07:27:48 PM
The project manager is NOT a man of integrity !!!   You have sustained damage to valuable property as a result of carelessness (or accident, your choice).  You have emotional ties to THIS particular performer  ...  you simply want it the "way it was before your crew accidentally damaged the cover and table".                           SJ
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: AZ Monsoon on November 06, 2015, 07:31:35 PM
I would just look up the cost of a new table and cover and have them cut you a check. Not that big of a deal. Better yet, just subtract it from the bill for the landscaping job.
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: charred on November 07, 2015, 05:02:18 AM
If you go the dishonest route, maybe you can severely damage only the table and frame, and remove the ash can and some other parts to make it look totaled.

But, I think Harleysmoker and AZMonsoon have it right. Determine the cost to make the grill whole again, and either get a check or deduct from your bill.
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Lemans on November 07, 2015, 06:19:22 AM
The karma police are always on duty
Let them replace the table and cover
Do the right thing!!!!!
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: feeshrman on November 07, 2015, 06:56:07 AM

Quote from: Harleysmoker on November 06, 2015, 05:53:12 PM
"Honesty is the best policy" Why don't the project manager just buy you a new table and a new cover? Him suggesting we damage the grill more before sending the pictures to the owner shows he is not a trust worthy employee, and I would not want a person like that working on my property, let alone being an employee for me.

The guy that did the damage may get his pay cut or lose his job over this dishonest project manager.
exactly
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: effinUker on November 07, 2015, 01:47:35 PM
always take a check. never deduct from a final bill.
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 07, 2015, 02:23:12 PM
I'd play this one straight and just show the boss the actual damage. Why not suggest that they replace the table with a new metal one and call it square ;)
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: ABCbarbecue on November 07, 2015, 02:30:25 PM
I'd go for the replacement parts.  Upgrade to the granite top =)
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: MacEggs on November 07, 2015, 02:39:05 PM
Or ... Or ... Look the other way and make a table out of wood like Greg did ......


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Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: brettbrown on November 16, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
I got the metal table from Weber. Sweet little upgrade and happy with my decision. Thanks for the info. Now I just have to wait to get reimbursed! 
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Idahawk on November 17, 2015, 06:15:16 AM
 Looks like an insurance scam to me ....my wife has been in commercial insurance for 20 plus years , I've heard all kinds of story's like this .


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Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Tommy B on November 17, 2015, 08:39:33 AM
I would politely ask him to fix or replace the performer with out causing more damage. If you want to replace the table to salvage the performer I would let that be known. That should be a cheaper option for the company. If he is unable to fix/replace the grill without causing more damage I would reach out directly to the owner and explain the situation. I don't know what his angle is but I would not feel comfortable causing more damage. Maybe he just wants to make sure the grill seems 100% broken so he can justify to the owner he needs to replace as opposed to fix but on the other hand that is unethical and should not need to happen.
Title: Re: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Tommy B on November 17, 2015, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: Idahawk on November 17, 2015, 06:15:16 AM
Looks like an insurance scam to me ....my wife has been in commercial insurance for 20 plus years , I've heard all kinds of story's like this .

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I am not in insurance and this may be a dumb question but do you really think a landscaping company would make an insurance claim for a grill that costs less then $500? I could see if they damaged something of more value like part of a home or car but a grill?
Title: I'm in a pickle
Post by: Idahawk on November 17, 2015, 09:56:33 AM
Quote from: Tommy B on November 17, 2015, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: Idahawk on November 17, 2015, 06:15:16 AM
Looks like an insurance scam to me ....my wife has been in commercial insurance for 20 plus years , I've heard all kinds of story's like this .

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I am not in insurance and this may be a dumb question but do you really think a landscaping company would make an insurance claim for a grill that costs less then $500? I could see if they damaged something of more value like part of a home or car but a grill?



Which is exactly why I think it's a scam , damage the grill more and file a higher claim , most claims under $1000.00 go unchecked . Pay the hurt party their end and pocket the rest , happens all the time.

Or the landscaper is thinking the damage amount is not going to be higher than his deductible and insurance won't pay at that point.





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