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Title: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
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Question. Once I get to 200°, how often do I lift the lid to probe for doneness?
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: WNC on July 28, 2015, 04:15:09 PM
If you're going to go by temp, I'd start checking at 198, and then maybe every half hour after that.

However, I've given up on temps for butts and have just preferred to go by probe tenderness. I wrap in foil, around the six hour mark and my butts take anywhere from 8-9 hours.

Looks like a great start, can't wait to see the finish!

BTW, nice kitchen for a van down by the river😀
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Thanks. I was planning to go to about 200°, wrap and probe from there.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: WNC on July 28, 2015, 05:53:29 PM
Hey @TheDude,
By 200 it should be done, so the only reason to wrap at that point is for holding/resting, and you should let it rest for about an hour.

If you're thinking about wrapping to speed up cooking, you should probably wrap earlier than 200. I think most wrap around 165, and/or when you've got the color/bark you like.

Like I said, I've stopped using temps for butts, and just wrap when I've got the color I like, let it go a couple/few hours and start probing for tenderness.

Forgive me if all this old hat to you, like I said earlier, it looks like you got it going on, can't wait to see the pulled!
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 06:01:21 PM
Very open to suggestion. This is my first go at doing anything low and slow. Anything anyone had to add is appropriated. Hope to have it on by about 9:30am. Dinner around 5 or so.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: 1buckie on July 28, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
If you wrap during the cook, go ahead & do that at 165 ~175 like said above....

Two reasons for that:

cooks faster, moving it thru the 'stall' period more quickly &

To stop the smoke & heat from darkening the bark past a certain point.....

At 195~200, it's like sliding into home.....you're already there, just a matter of touching the plate (the dinner plate!!!)

You can probe, or just look for the bone to wiggle / pop loose......when it comes away from the meat clean, it's the indicator the meat can't do any more to release what's there in the way of collagen & moisture & it begins to slowly dry out (not to worry, you're way far away from having a dry product at that point)

If you wrap during or at the end, either way, a rest period is a great idea.....it allows the juice to even out all thru the piece & the pork to stabilize......a stable pig is a good thing.....

Bone pull.....

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(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/2014/Pork%20%207-27-2014/Pork7-27-2014084.jpg)

See how it pulls off clean from the meat (well, almost on that 2nd one)
I wiggle, then leave in place & wrap in dbl. foil......

If you can organize a 1-1/2 ~ 2 hour rest, that's ideal.....45min. in a huge pinch.....maybe start pretty early to give yourself plenty of extra time.....I normally allow 11~12 hours with a part of that as resting, in foil, wrapped in a old clean towel & into a dry cooler, packed with more towels.....

If you do that, it should look like this after it's shredded:

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Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 06:29:05 PM
Thanks. Looks like you scored the fatback. I was wondering if I should?
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: 1buckie on July 28, 2015, 07:50:18 PM
You can.....some people say that by cutting it off completely, you can get the rub onto the meat & there's more bark.......personally, I score the fatcap & after the cooking & hold time, it turns into bark anyway.....

Here you can see it's pretty thin already.....this is just going into the hold......

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Maybe get some beans under that pig for a few hours late in the cook?

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Nothing quite like drip beans to go with pulled pork......

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/bbq-food-pics/nothing-new-just-some-pork-beans/msg26001/#msg26001
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 08:22:46 PM
Beans were already in the plan! Was going to let them ride the whole cook though. When do you recommend adding them? The
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
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Wendy all loaded up and ready to go. I pulled 3-4 chuncks of wood, after the pic
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2015, 08:36:14 PM
A "little" extra bacon in the beans never hurts.

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Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: 1911Ron on July 28, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
Solid advice give so far, i don't go by temp either, when it probes like butter it's done!
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: 1buckie on July 29, 2015, 07:10:11 AM
"When do you recommend adding them?"

Last 4 hours of the cook or there may be too much "drip".......
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 29, 2015, 07:28:57 AM
Lesson learned with the beans. Had to get the butt on though. Kettle is running at 270-271°. Lawn is mowed. Time for a nap.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 29, 2015, 07:30:52 AM
Underestimated the CMF. Grill was at 260° when I put it on. Dropped to 192°. Started climbing right back up though.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 29, 2015, 08:31:29 AM
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Two hours in.

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Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: baconeatingzombie on July 29, 2015, 09:25:51 AM
Looks good to me!!!
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: WNC on July 29, 2015, 10:57:42 AM
Great looking start, can't wait to see the end!
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 29, 2015, 11:09:44 AM
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1:45pm cst.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 29, 2015, 11:23:03 AM
I think I've hit the stall at 160°. Grill still hovering around 270°. Should I wrap?
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 29, 2015, 02:22:38 PM
Wound up wrapping at 263°. In the cooler now. Dinner in about an hour.

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Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: Cochise on July 29, 2015, 08:08:12 PM
Definitely gonna try that bean trick Buckie. Used AJ and Makers in drip pan last time then mixed in a small bottle of Stubbs. Never thought to use beans before.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: Andrew on July 29, 2015, 08:41:06 PM
Looks good! Im hungry nowm

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Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: 1buckie on July 30, 2015, 06:45:39 AM
@Cochise

Drip beets are great also....I don't even like beets, but a little bacon render, McCormick's Applewood rub, butter maple syrup with pork drip happens to be really good.....

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@TheDude 

Looks as if it went pretty well......how'd it pull?
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: TheDude on July 30, 2015, 07:43:46 AM
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The payoff. Thanks for your help guys. Beans actually turned out amazing.
Title: Re: First pork butt
Post by: WNC on July 30, 2015, 10:18:31 AM
Dang looks amazing, nice work there @TheDude!