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Title: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Craig on January 15, 2013, 04:36:19 PM
I am in the process of building my mini WSM. I got the IMUSA 32 quart steamer pot for Christmas, it the one made in China like everyone says to get, as opposed to made in Columbia ones. The lid just did not fit, it sat right on top of the lip. I did the Vice grip method, with a towl to bend the lip down, still didnt fit right. I finally just bent the lip frame upwords and now the lid finally fits fairly tight, but now its all boogered up and chewed looking around the edges. My question is does anyone recommend hacksawing the lip off, or keep it as is? Will gunk buildup from smoking hide the crappy rim? I was really disappointed about the initial fit. Heres some pics

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Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: DoppelBock on January 15, 2013, 04:46:11 PM
Bummer, sorry to see you had to do the crimp! My experience has been only the Vasconia pot fits correctly; bowl and lid. It seems like a roll of the dice with IMUSA, so I gave up on them. Vasconia is very consistent, I purchased at least ten pots from them since June 2012, and all have fit just right. Tell you what though, I see you have a red SJ there, I'd trade you TWO genuine Vasconia pots AND a Tru-Tell #BBQ225 Thermometer for it...plus a genuine Brian wood handle: dayamm :o
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: 1buckie on January 15, 2013, 04:52:04 PM


Congradulations !!!

That's my kind of foul ball ( meaning it's how things I do turn out quite often ! )

If you don't take Chad up on that trade, I would def. grid or cut & file the edge.....

The next mistake I would make is to cut myself on the rough edges !!!
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Duke on January 15, 2013, 07:58:18 PM
I bought a pot for $17 at the mercado last christmas and it was tight, so I took a pliers to it and flattened it down a little. It fits and works well, but not as nice as a vasconia. :(
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Golly on January 15, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
for mine and hogsys we used the vasconia
just bite the bullet and get a vasconia
its the only one that fits
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: ROB_STANG2000 on January 16, 2013, 04:08:50 AM
cut it! you have nothing to lose at this point, and if you don't like it then buy a different pot.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: bob hope on January 16, 2013, 04:33:34 AM
I would just bite the bullet and toss it.  Then get a Vasconia here's the Amazon link
http://www.amazon.com/Vasconia-32-Quart-Aluminum-Steamer-Lid/dp/B00194DVJI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358343151&sr=8-1&keywords=vasconia
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: HankB on January 16, 2013, 05:27:56 AM
How do the grates fit the Vasconia? They are a tight fit in the Imusa.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: DoppelBock on January 16, 2013, 06:34:20 AM
Quote from: HankB on January 16, 2013, 05:27:56 AM
How do the grates fit the Vasconia? They are a tight fit in the Imusa.

When the pot and grate are hot, the handles rivets can make removing the bottom and top great frustrating, but not impossible. I'm toying with the idea of filing down those rivets a bit. But not so much that the handles are compromised.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: HankB on January 16, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Chad A on January 16, 2013, 06:34:20 AM
When the pot and grate are hot, the handles rivets can make removing the bottom and top great frustrating, but not impossible. I'm toying with the idea of filing down those rivets a bit. But not so much that the handles are compromised.
I had to do something with a couple grates on some of the minis I put together. Rather than mess with the pot, I cut a bit out of the edge of the grate - about 1/4" and had my son weld them back together. He has a gas welder that is ideal for that sort of thing. I really need me one of those.  ;)

As smoke builds up on the inside of the pot, the grates on mine are getting tighter.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: DoppelBock on January 16, 2013, 10:35:45 AM
Quote from: HankB on January 16, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Chad A on January 16, 2013, 06:34:20 AM
When the pot and grate are hot, the handles rivets can make removing the bottom and top great frustrating, but not impossible. I'm toying with the idea of filing down those rivets a bit. But not so much that the handles are compromised.
I had to do something with a couple grates on some of the minis I put together. Rather than mess with the pot, I cut a bit out of the edge of the grate - about 1/4" and had my son weld them back together. He has a gas welder that is ideal for that sort of thing. I really need me one of those.  ;)

As smoke builds up on the inside of the pot, the grates on mine are getting tighter.

Moding the grate isn't a bad idea either. the bottom grate is always tougher to remove because of the three bolts, handle rivets, and thermometer stem. A precise cut and weld would do the trick nicely.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Duke on January 16, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
I wish someone would come out with a perfect tube that fith the lid and snug in the bottom. Then we could just add the handls and other components as we want.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: HankB on January 16, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: Duke on January 16, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
I wish someone would come out with a perfect tube that fith the lid and snug in the bottom. Then we could just add the handls and other components as we want.
Cajun Bandit was testing one but I don't see it for sale on their site.

If we're going to wish, I'd wish that Weber would just bring back the small version of the WSM they made years ago. (In RED!)
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: DoppelBock on January 16, 2013, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: HankB on January 16, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: Duke on January 16, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
I wish someone would come out with a perfect tube that fith the lid and snug in the bottom. Then we could just add the handls and other components as we want.
Cajun Bandit was testing one but I don't see it for sale on their site.

If we're going to wish, I'd wish that Weber would just bring back the small version of the WSM they made years ago. (In RED!)

I'm not sure how popular the "mini" wsm is, but sales for Vasconia pots is probably at an all time high and peaking during the summer. Whatever those numbers are, I hope Weber is paying attention to them, the numbers might be a good reason to bring the 1880 back! Though I suppose the price of an 1880 vs. a tamale pot modification would still be pretty wide.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Duke on January 16, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
If they ever did bring back the 1880, I bet it would be around $250.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: G on January 16, 2013, 04:11:49 PM
You could try either:
1-Get a piece of 1 x 1/2" or 3/8" thick aluminum stock (whatever works), cut it to size, and bolt it to the pot to form a new lip
2-Find an old SJ bowl, use a grinder to cut off the lip of the bowl, and JB weld it to the pot to form a new lip

If neither works, you can always buy a Vasconia. 
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: 1buckie on January 16, 2013, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: G on January 16, 2013, 04:11:49 PM
You could try either:
1-Get a piece of 1 x 1/2" or 3/8" thick aluminum stock (whatever works), cut it to size, and bolt it to the pot to form a new lip
2-Find an old SJ bowl, use a grinder to cut off the lip of the bowl, and JB weld it to the pot to form a new lip

If neither works, you can always buy a Vasconia.

Good Thinkin' G !!!

Yeah, the UDS fix.....

If you cut off the lip & bolt aluminum strip to the INSIDE, it reduces the circumference by just a little


A lot of the 55 gallon drums a just a tad too big for a Weber lid & that's what people do to make it work......

Might mess with getting the grates in & out a little, but may also work just fine!!!
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Craig on January 16, 2013, 08:28:25 PM
Quote from: Duke on January 16, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
If they ever did bring back the 1880, I bet it would be around $250.

Well the original 1880 in 1983 ran for $99.99, so in 2011 money, its $222.24 according to the inflation calculator. So, yeah I'd say $250 would be about right. Itd still be cheaper to do a SJ mini WSM. It'd be worth the extra $50 for the 18.5 WSM.  :-\

Chad: Thank you! I'll have to think about it. That red SJ was hard to come by and am looking at doing a mini red bullet.
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Duke on January 16, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Quote from: Craig on January 16, 2013, 08:28:25 PM
Well the original 1880 in 1983 ran for $99.99, so in 2011 money, its $222.24 according to the inflation calculator. So, yeah I'd say $250 would be about right. Itd still be cheaper to do a SJ mini WSM. It'd be worth the extra $50 for the 18.5 WSM.  :-\

I totally agree! :) Now got get yer shine box! >:(
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: Craig on January 16, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: Duke on January 16, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Quote from: Craig on January 16, 2013, 08:28:25 PM
Well the original 1880 in 1983 ran for $99.99, so in 2011 money, its $222.24 according to the inflation calculator. So, yeah I'd say $250 would be about right. Itd still be cheaper to do a SJ mini WSM. It'd be worth the extra $50 for the 18.5 WSM.  :-\

I totally agree! :) Now got get yer shine box! >:(

YOU!.....................YOU!........................ >:( KEEP HIM HERE!!!  >:( C'MON! YA FEELIN STRONG!?  8) 

~~~  ;D Break up MY party!  :-X
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: DoppelBock on January 17, 2013, 04:15:23 AM
Quote from: Craig on January 16, 2013, 08:28:25 PM
Quote from: Duke on January 16, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
If they ever did bring back the 1880, I bet it would be around $250.

Well the original 1880 in 1983 ran for $99.99, so in 2011 money, its $222.24 according to the inflation calculator. So, yeah I'd say $250 would be about right. Itd still be cheaper to do a SJ mini WSM. It'd be worth the extra $50 for the 18.5 WSM.  :-\

Chad: Thank you! I'll have to think about it. That red SJ was hard to come by and am looking at doing a mini red bullet.

No problem Craig, a red sj IS hard to come by, and my offer was partly in jest....that is unless you're seriously contemplating it ;)
Title: Re: Mini WSM lid fit
Post by: HankB on January 17, 2013, 04:42:58 AM
Quote from: Craig on January 16, 2013, 08:28:25 PM

Well the original 1880 in 1983 ran for $99.99, so in 2011 money, its $222.24 according to the inflation calculator. So, yeah I'd say $250 would be about right. Itd still be cheaper to do a SJ mini WSM. It'd be worth the extra $50 for the 18.5 WSM.  :-\
Of course if it was priced at $225 the difference would be $75. I'm not so sure that everyone would think the 18.5 would be worth the extra $75. The 22.5 is $100 more than the 18.5 and Weber still sells plenty of the 18.5s. But it would not surprise me if many purchasers thought that the 1880 was too small.

Since smoking is such a long process, perhaps it is better for most to make it worth while to have a larger unit they can load up with meat. (Not like the episode of Primal Grill where Raichlen puts one chicken in the middle of the top grate on a 22.5 where it looked like a pimple on a watermelon.  :P )