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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2015, 10:40:56 AM

Title: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2015, 10:40:56 AM
For a month or so now Winz and I have been trying to come up with a solution to having to rest the giant old ranch lids on the ground every time you need access to the cooking grate. We both wanted something that was as minimalistic as possible as they already take up a significant amount of patio space.

I ended up doing a little experimenting with a Weber #8411 Slide Aside Lid Holder for a 22". This guy here:

(https://fc03a76d7309b5c68d79-d0aeafc7cd9ebb5eae45c08affdb0cc5.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/8411_630x440.jpg)
The plan was to make a larger copy of the same item but after taking a good look and messing around with it for awhile I decided to try bending the existing holder so that it was better suited to hold the giant saucer of the Ranch. Sure enough with some force you can bend it fairly easily and with the additional help of pliers I was also able to bend the hanging hooks into the correct position so that they do not interfere with lid when covered. The hooks themselves are pressed onto the rack and swivel which is brilliant and makes for a nice fit on any side bowl rim.

Really I just stretched the holder so it was wider, and then kept test fitting and bending as I went. This is about as vertical as you can get the lid before it would start to interfere with the handle. Don't think I'd use it on a super windy day but it's actually quite solid. The only thing I might consider adding is some high heat gasket or something on the two high tips of the holder where is rests against the lid so that its not metal on metal. Seems to be fine as-is but over time it might cause a light scratch like a performer lid bale can if used roughly.

EDIT:: I bet this would stuff be perfect!... just dip the top 2" so it gets rubber coated. Will post results later this week...

(http://www.plastipaintusa.com/image/Performix/Performix-12213-lg.jpg)

So here she is... the worlds largest MT? ;) 8) (Excuse the missing handles - way too wet of late to leave them on.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4545Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4548Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4549Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4562Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4565Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4568Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4570Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4583Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4590Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4593Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4605Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4607Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4615Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4620Custom.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2015/04/25/IMG_4621Custom.jpg)

There are probably other tweaks to make it even better but it's really unobtrusive and can be removed in seconds.

- Six

Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: Craig on April 28, 2015, 10:43:34 AM
Nice work, @SixZeroFour ! Now I know that when I find a mothership someday I'll be able to do this!
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: pbe gummi bear on April 28, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
Looks great! Be careful with that lid though, it would be unfortunace if it got a boo-boo. @SixZeroFour I've plastidipped a lidbale before: http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/working-on-ss-performers-gummi-bear-build-log-pic-heavy/msg70420/#msg70420 unfortunately my pics are dead. lmk if you need tips on dipping the assembly.
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: Winz on April 28, 2015, 01:49:32 PM
Awesome job Matt!  Can't wait to set mine up the same way.  Looks completely stock.


@Golly   Check it out!


Winz
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: Troy on April 28, 2015, 02:23:30 PM
now that is RADASS!!

I need to find an old ranch!!! I'd give up a few grills for one ;)
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: MINIgrillin on April 28, 2015, 03:32:20 PM
That's a simple practical mod. Well done.

I'm with Troy. I'd give up a few for a ranch. Just for the wow factor it would bring.
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: Sramsey on April 28, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
Nice mod. The plastic dip is a great idea. Been thinking of what I can do to protect my lid from marking
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: Troy on April 28, 2015, 02:23:30 PM
I need to find an old ranch!!! I'd give up a few grills for one ;)

Don't tease me like that Troy ;D ... And your "lime" 18 won't fool me this time around lol 8)
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: swamprb on April 28, 2015, 03:58:49 PM
I see an accident waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: SmokenJoe on April 28, 2015, 04:17:25 PM
That is a truly beautiful kettle, congrats.
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: landgraftj on April 28, 2015, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: swamprb on April 28, 2015, 03:58:49 PM
I see an accident waiting to happen.

One wind gust and the lid may take flight like a frisbee... :o
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: ramsfan on April 28, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Looks nice, but the way that lid is sitting so far back, I would be afraid of it tipping the whole thing backwards?
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: ramsfan on April 28, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Looks nice, but the way that lid is sitting so far back, I would be afraid of it tipping the whole thing backwards?

Not going to happen... The kettle sits very low to the ground and the bowl section weighs a ton. It would take one crazy gust of wind to get it to flip - I bet the cooking grate alone weighs more than a fully outfitted 22.5" OTG ;D

I'd like to think most folks are smart enough to determine when and when not to use the lid holder 8) This is BBQ, not kite surfing :)
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: landgraftj on April 29, 2015, 03:20:58 AM
Quote from: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: ramsfan on April 28, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Looks nice, but the way that lid is sitting so far back, I would be afraid of it tipping the whole thing backwards?


I'd like to think most folks are smart enough to determine when and when not to use the lid holder 8) This is BBQ, not kite surfing :)

You mean common sense exists at the WKC?
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: 1911Ron on April 29, 2015, 06:24:24 AM
Quote from: landgraftj on April 29, 2015, 03:20:58 AM
Quote from: SixZeroFour on April 28, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: ramsfan on April 28, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Looks nice, but the way that lid is sitting so far back, I would be afraid of it tipping the whole thing backwards?


I'd like to think most folks are smart enough to determine when and when not to use the lid holder 8) This is BBQ, not kite surfing :)

You mean common sense exists at the WKC?
Read the last line in my tagline! ;D  Sixzerofour that mod looks great!
Title: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: Idahawk on April 29, 2015, 07:57:36 AM
Nice work 604 !

  (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/29/614fba71a5c777aaf1cc2c50c458460a.jpg)

I think any Ranch kettle with its lid up too long could be a disaster.

@Gummi I remember your accident , I think about it everytime I hang a lid


  " Esto Perpertua "
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: argentflame on April 29, 2015, 11:22:50 AM
This is an awesome mod.
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: WNC on April 29, 2015, 02:22:13 PM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: pbe gummi bear on April 29, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Idahawk on April 29, 2015, 07:57:36 AM

I think any Ranch kettle with its lid up too long could be a disaster.

@Gummi I remember your accident , I think about it everytime I hang a lid


  " Esto Perpertua "

Yeah, I haven't used that kettle since. I can't find the thread either. :(
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: Idahawk on April 29, 2015, 03:31:40 PM

Quote from: pbe gummi bear on April 29, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Idahawk on April 29, 2015, 07:57:36 AM

I think any Ranch kettle with its lid up too long could be a disaster.

@Gummi I remember your accident , I think about it everytime I hang a lid


  " Esto Perpertua "

Yeah, I haven't used that kettle since. I can't find the thread either. :(

Was it one of the meet up threads ?


  " Esto Perpertua "
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: pbe gummi bear on April 29, 2015, 03:32:47 PM
Found it:

Quote from: pbe gummi bear on May 17, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
So today at the WKC meet I cooked on my red MT for the first time. I've had this kettle in my possesion for a while now but I finally got it cleaned up and out of storage. It's in great shape, only a few small nicks on the lid edge. At the end of the day, I was cleaning it out to pack so I propped the lid into the bale, pulled out the grates and charcoal basket and then went to pack those away. All of a sudden a huge gust of wind blows and I hear a loud CLANG. I looked over and the lid was still in the lid bale......... except the entire assembled kettle was laying 90 degrees on the ground. :'(  The lid acted like a sail and the entire kettle popped a wheelie. There are now two big chips and dings on the lid right where the rollers touch the lip. It looks like someone took a 1/4" rod and took two crisp whacks at the lid lip.  Oh well- yolo.
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: zavod44 on April 29, 2015, 07:21:13 PM
I just set mine on the ground.....I lean one edge on the ground and one on the lip of the grill...
Title: Re: Ranch Mothership Slide-Aside Lid Mod
Post by: mike.stavlund on April 29, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
Those spin marks are making me light-headed.  *swoon*