Anybody paint the exterior of their kettle damaged areas...
If so..pls share prep and painting process...
Before starting painting process with vht flameproof..it would be helpful to have some wkc experiences and results with painting...
Did the paint hold
Paint used....prep process?
Thanks
@swamprb does it a lot for chipped areas & seems to have good results....Craig's done some & there are other people that have done various tests & tried different products (don't recall EXACTLY who just now)
I did a whole kettle, over the original Black & it was just OK.....the color changed in areas where the coals were banked, as I think that's actually hotter than the ratings of VHT & such.....
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/feelin'-fruity/
I applied some to a bowl of a red 18. Eventually turned black.
If I could do it over .. I would not have applied any paint. Live and learn. It's your call.
Very interesting buckie...and maceggs
Has the paint held on...or are you noticing flaking?
This is a bit different than chip repair as the whole kettle was in nice shape when started......even, thin layers....numerous coatings, all high heat & it did work well, but for the discoloration from banking....
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Cookers%202012/Mods/10-8-13PTampBrisket018.jpg)
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/Cookers%202012/Mods/10-8-13PTampBrisket017.jpg)
I've noticed that people tend to pile up the paint some on the repair areas & I believe the thicker it is, the more likely to flake off eventually.......
Somebody thought of trying to build the chip areas with Alvin metals high heat liquid metal first, grinding & sanding that down & painting or powder coating........that might be the best fix.......
Here's some on that:
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/please-do-k-kick-me-out/
Quote from: toolhead on March 19, 2015, 12:03:15 PM
Very interesting buckie...and maceggs
Has the paint held on...or are you noticing flaking?
One other thought......the very best success with any painting is the surface prep beforehand....makes all the difference in how well it holds.....
Seems like flaking off wouldn't be so much the deal as discoloration or whole areas just coming unglued from rust under the paint or the like...........
Try "Rust-Oleum" 2000 degrees. I used it on my Char Griller and worked very well. You can find it in the Automotive section at Home Depot. It also depends on what color you're looking for...
(http://i60.tinypic.com/fbayde.jpg)
Quote from: BBcue-Z on March 19, 2015, 01:58:26 PM
Try "Rust-Oleum" 2000 degrees. I used it on my Char Griller and worked very well. You can find it in the Automotive section at Home Depot. It also depends on what color you're looking for...
(http://i60.tinypic.com/fbayde.jpg)
That stuff is really good. That is what I painted my UDS with and it has held up really well...even when I accidentally let it get really hot warming it up one time.
Agreed...surface prep is critical..i sand down to bare metal..wipe down..dry then paint.
Im thinking about using addicted to smoke suggestion for naval jelly to rid rust at the handle welds...tight crevice areas where it is difficult to sand well...
Another question...anyone just sand to metal and coat with food grade oil...ie..pam or vegetable oil to season/oil coat the oitside kettle damage areas to protect metal?
Does the seasoning stay or simply wear off and rust
Pam is often used to "change" a black kettle that's faded to gray, back to almost-black. But it's oil, and so it won't stay. The outside of a kettle won't "season" in that regard.
As for sanding down to bare metal, I've never read that anyone's been able to effectively do it? They bake it on at 1700 degrees F in the factory.
Im working ona kettle that had chipped porcelain and there was metal/rust...sanded down to bare metal...
I think there was some sh subsurface porcelain left bc that area was ridged...hand sanded with 100 grit
Its a freakin' kettle! I just paint the spots to keep them for rusting.
Quote from: swamprb on March 19, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
I just paint the spots to keep them for rusting.
that's what I did for buddy. he had some lid rash when I got him. I used a http://choreboyscrubbers.com/Products/Ultimate%20Scrubbers%20Pure%20Copper.aspx (http://choreboyscrubbers.com/Products/Ultimate%20Scrubbers%20Pure%20Copper.aspx) and soapy water to clean/kill the rust and prep the metal. wiped w/a damp cloth then dried. then sprayed some rustoleum high temp bbq paint(black) into a plastic cup until it pooled enough to us a brush to apply(dabbed on).
couple pics of the before and after....
before....
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/iammrbill/EBAE8A84-1209-4A8D-AB5F-D50EFD77344D-7385-00000F1F40389CA9_zps8eff73cb.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/iammrbill/media/EBAE8A84-1209-4A8D-AB5F-D50EFD77344D-7385-00000F1F40389CA9_zps8eff73cb.jpg.html)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/iammrbill/C8EECDE4-92B8-45E5-A3A8-7C4B59043F9E-7385-00000F1F2B17CDAD_zps77787f22.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/iammrbill/media/C8EECDE4-92B8-45E5-A3A8-7C4B59043F9E-7385-00000F1F2B17CDAD_zps77787f22.jpg.html)
after......
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/iammrbill/5DEDD7C5-B4C8-465B-B2A7-38C9899DC929-6375-000011F1BCDA5568_zpsa98bad52.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/iammrbill/media/5DEDD7C5-B4C8-465B-B2A7-38C9899DC929-6375-000011F1BCDA5568_zpsa98bad52.jpg.html)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/iammrbill/72C5BA4E-A32D-4845-971B-96161FD390AF-6375-000011F1844DE5C3_zpsa7b2f820.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/iammrbill/media/72C5BA4E-A32D-4845-971B-96161FD390AF-6375-000011F1844DE5C3_zpsa7b2f820.jpg.html)
the overlap was intentional to prevent the rust spreading. pics were taken almost two years ago and no signs of deterioration. grill has been left outside but covered. rust has not returned or spread.
I'm on the fence reading everyone's thoughts on paint touch ups I recently scored a red ss performer on Craig's list . I've been cleaning her up and have been debating how to treat the blemishes on her. I really want to preserve the beauty of it with out messing it up with added paint. I cleaned the chipped areas and rubbed them with coconut oil for now. Is there a better way to preserve without painting the areas or is painting the right option.
Nail polish? I hit a couple of dings/chips with some nail polish on a kettle I gave away about 6 years ago. It was Black and looked pretty good (on the kettle haha) but have no idea how it held up long term? Lots of colors available, but might wanna have your wife/girlfriend, etc. buy it for you 👍
Quote from: BBcue-Z on March 19, 2015, 01:58:26 PM
Try "Rust-Oleum" 2000 degrees. I used it on my Char Griller and worked very well. You can find it in the Automotive section at Home Depot. It also depends on what color you're looking for...
(http://i60.tinypic.com/fbayde.jpg)
Quote from: swamprb on March 19, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Its a freakin' kettle! I just paint the spots to keep them for rusting.
"If you want it fancy there is BBQ spray paint at home depot for that. "I would suppose it's just like anything else.....some folks are going to go to great lengths to get it just right & others will be simple, straightforward, quick & practical.......guaranteed, around here, there will be everything in between also...... 8)
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/1st%202013%20chicken/8-4-2013%20Surf%20Turf%20Orange/8-4-2013SampTurfOrange013.jpg)
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/2014/Wood%20Dale/La%20Scala/LaScala030.jpg)
Qreps, while painting might look worse than rust, paint won't cause a hole. A dull finish will help it not stand out so bad.
I did not do any special prep other than having a clean surface.
Sprayed some paint into a plastic container, then applied it with a foam brush. I did not apply any to the lid, only the bowl.
I suppose I could have looked for paint with a higher temperature rating. I used this stuff.
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/MacEggs/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2393.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/MacEggs/media/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2393.jpg.html)
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/MacEggs/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2360.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/MacEggs/media/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2360.jpg.html)
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/MacEggs/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2445.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/MacEggs/media/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2445.jpg.html)
The transformation ... Looked like new.
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/MacEggs/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2337.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/MacEggs/media/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2337.jpg.html)
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/MacEggs/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2477.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/MacEggs/media/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_2477.jpg.html)
Some of the bowl now looks like this.
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/MacEggs/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_3467.jpg) (http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/MacEggs/media/Cookers%20and%20Build%20pics/IMG_3467.jpg.html)
My main reason for using the paint was to cover up some JB Weld that was used to fill some small holes. I then got carried-away.
It doesn't bother me ... It's a great cooker. Probably use it the most of all my kettles.
Quote from: Fishawn on March 19, 2015, 08:29:34 PM
Nail polish? I hit a couple of dings/chips with some nail polish on a kettle I gave away about 6 years ago. It was Black and looked pretty good (on the kettle haha) but have no idea how it held up long term? Lots of colors available, but might wanna have your wife/girlfriend, etc. buy it for you 👍
Yeah, the wife's still pissed about when i stole her high-heat nail polish........ :o 8)
@ Mrbill. I have the same "work-bench"!! I use my Recycle bin as a work surface for many projects..
Thanks for the helpful advice
Quote from: order66 on March 20, 2015, 08:34:15 AM
@ Mrbill. I have the same "work-bench"!! I use my Recycle bin as a work surface for many projects..
whatever works ;)
I find that if a "cooker" is to be painted, the lid holds up fine but the bowl touch ups will most likely discolor (to 1buckies point) or cook away. Handles (bowl or lid) can be painted with little issues. My 26 lid handle is painted Ace Terra Cotta to match the lighter part of the Copper Mist and it's a regular cooker and looks just as good as the day it was painted. My yellow has some touch up spots on the lid and around the handle with some VHT high heat as the primer and 500 degree high heat yellow. So far, so good with a slight discoloration. It's been cooked on about 4-5 times since repairing last fall. I left the bowl alone (other than a deep clean)
Before
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After
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Heating up
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/21/6877b91bf81edd59881871dbdd4a9420.jpg)
Difference up close (this is heated) when cold it's a perfect match.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/21/8faabe6dbbb9ad9a8a522e2318c1c792.jpg)
I left the bowl "as is" glowing orange here (picture doesn't do justice to the orange glow)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/21/2f7b0a9565b5b55ac73d7da2382dc63d.jpg)
I have a '79 red 22 that is touched up and the lid paint has held up but only slightly darkened but the bowl cooked away the touch up over 2 years of having it.