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Title: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 04:30:23 AM
Sweet old grill. Original wheels and came with the ash pan  :) Third go around for a Chief.  The other times they made their way to other WKC members via cool trade.


With the thumbscrew Fleetwood and the Aristocrat.

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief7_zps85c90b7f.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief7_zps85c90b7f.jpg.html)


(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief1_zpsbe0f62a4.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief1_zpsbe0f62a4.jpg.html)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief9_zps3b7d1158.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief9_zps3b7d1158.jpg.html)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief3_zps7e168625.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief3_zps7e168625.jpg.html)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief4_zps24ff5283.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief4_zps24ff5283.jpg.html)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief2_zpsece2656a.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief2_zpsece2656a.jpg.html)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief6_zps2f9eaaca.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief6_zps2f9eaaca.jpg.html)

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Chief5_zps7da00f71.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Chief5_zps7da00f71.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Craig on January 01, 2015, 06:21:58 AM
Nice find! Happy New Year!


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Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Jeff on January 01, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
There is the complete power trio!  All the 26 colors Webers ever made!  Too bad we can't get my blue in with them for that pic.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Troy on January 01, 2015, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff on January 01, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
There is the complete power trio!  All the 26 colors Webers ever made!  Too bad we can't get my blue in with them for that pic.
Didn't we determine that there's also a Gray/silver 26?
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 12:16:00 PM
Don't forget about the Westerner.   :)

Quote from: Jeff on January 01, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
There is the complete power trio!  All the 26 colors Webers ever made!  Too bad we can't get my blue in with them for that pic.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
I know the grill you are thinking of.  It's faded black.  I talked to Ed about the colors a while back.  Gray was not offered in a 26".


Quote from: Troy on January 01, 2015, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff on January 01, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
There is the complete power trio!  All the 26 colors Webers ever made!  Too bad we can't get my blue in with them for that pic.
Didn't we determine that there's also a Gray/silver 26?
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Troy on January 01, 2015, 12:34:14 PM
Quote from: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
I know the grill you are thinking of.  It's faded black.  I talked to Ed about the colors a while back.  Gray was not offered in a 26".


Quote from: Troy on January 01, 2015, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff on January 01, 2015, 07:01:45 AM
There is the complete power trio!  All the 26 colors Webers ever made!  Too bad we can't get my blue in with them for that pic.
Didn't we determine that there's also a Gray/silver 26?
Who has the grill?
The only evidence I'll trust is an pam test.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
@swamprb
@Troy

  This is the grill where a few have posed that question.  I asked Reilly about this color a while back and he couldn't find any documentation.  Of course that only means so much.

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/old-faded-black-or-gray-smokey-joe/msg138784/#msg138784
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: swamprb on January 01, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
It was deemed by the elite that these are merely faded black and not grey


That's all I have to say about that!
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 01:26:09 PM
I never heard anyone say it was a faded black, and I would have totally disagreed.   Grandpa is 100% a silver/gray grill from the factory.  Here is the 1962 catalog, you can clearly see the 26" is silver and the 22" is black to the right hand side.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kgd5Fh_JfeA/VKXHo93-pdI/AAAAAAAAW7U/gF4VdC87mSs/w857-h482-no/IMG_20150101_161803720_HDR.jpg) 

Here it is in action on Christmas Eve


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5IXXKrTpVxo/VJr6Ei3xCtI/AAAAAAAAWm4/nTYq7o_6djA/w857-h482-no/IMG_20141224_113707916_HDR.jpg)


There are five official, 26 colors

   -Black
   -Red
   -Chocolate
   -Westerner
   -Silver

Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
Curious question.  When did the Fleetwood change from Gray to Black?  Buckie has a black Wood Dale Fleetwood.  Maybe Craig will have some input.

@Craig
@1buckie
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 02:25:34 PM
Not sure what year this catalog is?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mXl0dpNYI3I/UL_KyJXNDjI/AAAAAAAABEQ/GKqAClj6Z4Q/w931-h525-no/IMG_20121205_162909_589.jpg)
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
I was told this was a 1962 catalog but I'm not sure it is?   Unless they made the black fleetwood in the early 60's then they made a silver one in 62 as a special, then discontinued it for 63?

just a wild shot in the dark

Title: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Craig on January 01, 2015, 04:30:16 PM
If you look at that 1962 catalog, the Fleetwood is a black and white photo. If you look at the description very carefully, it says "The Fleetwood"

"Jet Black lifetime porcelain finish" the description is exactly the same in both the 1962 catalog AND the other one here... 1963. Why it is in black and white and has that silvery shine for 1962? I wish I knew. But as kickass as a factory 26 would be and as much as I love Grandpa (and Grandpa is a sweet old grill) he's a very well seasoned/faded black turned silver-grey. Someone else on here has a very evenly faded black thumbscrew Fleetwood as well along with a matching faded SJ and an MBH 22 faded black.

26 colors (1960s)

Fleetwood/ Jet Black

Westerner/ Chestnut Copperton

Aristocrat/Red

1969-1979

Fleetwood/Jet Black/Black

Aristocrat/Red

Chief/Copper Mist/Chocolate
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Your saying that the speckled silver finish in the catalog is black?
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 06:28:59 PM
Maybe....
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Craig on January 01, 2015, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Your saying that the speckled silver finish in the catalog is black?

I think it's a black and white photo they used for both the Fleetwood and the cutout diagram.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Craig on January 01, 2015, 07:02:44 PM
I think it is "highlighted" in a strange way to set it apart from the Texan.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: 1911Ron on January 02, 2015, 04:09:11 AM
Very nice, she is beautiful!
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: MacEggs on January 02, 2015, 04:30:58 AM
Those are beauties, Harris!  Great discussion, too. 

Sorry to go off-topic, but, has anybody seen a MLH yellow 22 like that in the catalogue pic??
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: zavod44 on January 02, 2015, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Craig on January 01, 2015, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Your saying that the speckled silver finish in the catalog is black?

I think it's a black and white photo they used for both the Fleetwood and the cutout diagram.


Okay I'll go with that.....let me ask you this, what catalogs are we looking at here?  What years?  The two I posted?
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: Craig on January 02, 2015, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: zavod44 on January 02, 2015, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Craig on January 01, 2015, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: zavod44 on January 01, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Your saying that the speckled silver finish in the catalog is black?

I think it's a black and white photo they used for both the Fleetwood and the cutout diagram.

Okay I'll go with that.....let me ask you this, what catalogs are we looking at here?  What years?  The two I posted?

@zavod44

The one with the questionable Fleetwood pic is 1962. The other with the very black Fleetwood is 1963. It has George on the cover working a 22 red MLH with the work table and the charcoal caddy thing like @Jeff has on the cover.

EDIT: Here's the discussion from one of the FUNNEST days on WKC in 2014 for me. Hard to believe its been a year almost. The 1963 catalog (black Fleetwood) is c-63

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wood-dale-handles/50/

ENJOY!
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: GregS on January 02, 2015, 08:06:56 PM
Quote from: harris92 on January 01, 2015, 04:30:23 AMThird go around for a Chief.  The other times they made their way to other WKC members via cool trade.

@harris92 they say the fourth time's a charm.  ;)

my paypal account wants to trade with you.   8)
Title: Re: Kicking off 2015....Please welcome the Patent Pending Chief...
Post by: JayCee on January 03, 2015, 03:00:37 AM
Congratulations on another great score (from a fellow chief owner half a world away) :)