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Months ago I started this thread:

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/tuck-n-carry-(sjp)-conversion-should-i-drill-holes/15/

I have had the parts together for some time. Today I put it all together and took some pictures.

A legless kettle with a ld lock?
(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120125_695_zpsf1jgejcq.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120125_695_zpsf1jgejcq.jpg.html)

What's inside? Legs, ash pan and grates!
(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120207_273_zpswijhz3yi.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120207_273_zpswijhz3yi.jpg.html)

More stuff in the basement!(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120218_372_zpsnjfztkwg.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120218_372_zpsnjfztkwg.jpg.html)

The best parts!(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120617_715_zpsvixitdqb.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120617_715_zpsvixitdqb.jpg.html)(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120148_136_zpspapfvi9d.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120148_136_zpspapfvi9d.jpg.html)

All together and ready to cook.(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120504_875_zpsaavln30i.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120504_875_zpsaavln30i.jpg.html)


The fire restrictions have been lifted on the Sitgreaves NF. This baby is going with me on my next trip to the mountains!

Awesome mod.

Love it!

What a great idea, it's like a weber picnic basket - comes w/everything you need and still portable. Love it!

That is awesome. I have the parts in the basement to make a red one. Seeing yours has lit a fire under me.

That is basically the idea for the current Jumbo Joe line that Weber has. Unfortunately, I feel that I could never get adequate airflow through it. Twice, I have loaded it up with a full chimney, tossed food on the grate, and then watched the temps plummet. Even though the top and bottom vent were 100% open.  I think your grill should fix that issue due to using a standard 18.5" bowl. I like it, and will probably go the same route if I can manage to come across a 18.5" grill that I don't mind drilling some holes in. Nice work

Very, very creative!  I current haul around a jumbo joe in the RV, but I like your idea so much more. Awesome mod - please make sure it gets posted in the "mods" forum section of the home page.

Thanks for sharing,

Winz


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I like it, very cool mod!

Awesome JC.  That :arry handle is the mod I could never bring muself to do but is the one that makes it perfect.  Now that the rains have come I am itching to hit the mountains but I think my schedule is not going to allow it.  Enjoy that carry kettle.!

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Fantastic job jc

That is awesome.  Can totally picture this coming in super handy in many situations.  great mod!

Call that the Tailgater.....nice work.

I love it man. Good work, love the handles too!

Quote from: truckertrash on July 19, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
I love it man. Good work, love the handles too!

Brian's handles are the BOMB!;D
I have another project that I will roll out in a few days that includes some more of  them.;)

Nicely done sir, nicely done!

grate work, jc!  I'm sure that required a lot of careful measurements and even more careful drilling!

That turned out Awesome! Nice execution!

Thats pretty sweet!! I took one of those modded 18s on vacation with me this week.

Fantastic mod, perfect setup for grilling on the go! Well done!!

Great job! Way to take it to the next level.

JC, did you put the lid support on?

Quote from: pbe gummi bear on July 21, 2014, 08:53:14 PM
JC, did you put the lid support on?

No lid support. With my stubby legs I can still use my lid hook.

Quote from: jcnaz on July 18, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Months ago I started this thread:

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/tuck-n-carry-(sjp)-conversion-should-i-drill-holes/15/

I have had the parts together for some time. Today I put it all together and took some pictures.

A legless kettle with a ld lock?
(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120125_695_zpsf1jgejcq.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120125_695_zpsf1jgejcq.jpg.html)

What's inside? Legs, ash pan and grates!
(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120207_273_zpswijhz3yi.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120207_273_zpswijhz3yi.jpg.html)

More stuff in the basement!(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120218_372_zpsnjfztkwg.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120218_372_zpsnjfztkwg.jpg.html)

The best parts!(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120617_715_zpsvixitdqb.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120617_715_zpsvixitdqb.jpg.html)(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120148_136_zpspapfvi9d.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120148_136_zpspapfvi9d.jpg.html)

All together and ready to cook.(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/jcnaz44/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120504_875_zpsaavln30i.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/jcnaz44/media/Weber%20Stuff/IMG_20140718_120504_875_zpsaavln30i.jpg.html)


The fire restrictions have been lifted on the Sitgreaves NF. This baby is going with me on my next trip to the mountains!

Would you be able to tell me where you got the bar for the lid lock?  I would love to make one of these.

Thanks!

I like it, I like it a lot! I wouild like to try this with a 22. The lid lock bar would be a problem though.

That is so cool!

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Would you be able to tell me where you got the bar for the lid lock?  I would love to make one of these.

Thanks!
/quote]

I got mine from Weber. 


Lid lock wire for 18.5 part # is 86824 

Quote from: JDD on March 20, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
I like it, I like it a lot! I wouild like to try this with a 22. The lid lock bar would be a problem though.

It would be hard to bend one up. I made one up for my mini WSM
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/DSC04042.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/DSC04042.jpg.html)
Awesome job on the mod by the way!!! It looks stock

Wow, JC nice work! Sweet mod and the craftsmanship looks great too. Ingenious idea there!

Quote from: Hogsy on March 20, 2015, 03:39:09 PM

Quote from: JDD on March 20, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
I like it, I like it a lot! I wouild like to try this with a 22. The lid lock bar would be a problem though.

It would be hard to bend one up. I made one up for my mini WSM
(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q585/joelhogston/DSC04042.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/joelhogston/media/DSC04042.jpg.html)
Awesome job on the mod by the way!!! It looks stock

Hogsy that thing is AWESOME!!

@jcnaz, could you please measure how far down from the bowl's rim you drilled? 


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stunning craftsmanship , brilliant ideas !

Quote from: Mr.CPHo on November 01, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
@jcnaz, could you please measure how far down from the bowl's rim you drilled? 


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I will tomorrow when I get home.


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Great idea!!.and a super job!!

That is very smart mod. I like it!  Hogsy's mod looks good too.

Nice job!

@jcnaz I am inspired by your build and want to do the same with a twist.  I have taken an 18.5 OTS and coverted it to an OTG.  I want to add the lid bail just as you did.  Would really appreciate the dimensions for the holes as well.  Thank you!

Whit

Quote from: cwmfour on November 07, 2016, 08:53:04 AM
@jcnaz I am inspired by your build and want to do the same with a twist.  I have taken an 18.5 OTS and coverted it to an OTG.  I want to add the lid bail just as you did.  Would really appreciate the dimensions for the holes as well.  Thank you!

Whit

@cwmfour, I'm in the same boat as you; converting an OTS to an OTG and wanted to add the lid bail and tuck and carry handle from my JJ, only to discover the handle shape is different.  I think I'll have to first order a tuck and carry handle from Brian and then proceed with adding the lid bale mod.


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@Mr.CPHo  I have a JJ as well and lid bales are a different shape because the bowl is a different shape.  The JJ has a sharper "angle" than a normal 18.5 kettle.  I am waiting on a tuck and carry wood handle from Brian too.

I think you can bend the JJ lid bale to work.  The major difference is the angle on the short pieces that go into the holes.  On the JJ they are angles up and the on the original Smokey Joe Premium bale they are almost at a 90 degree angle.  The rest of the bale is pretty close.

I will take a picture tonight of the two bales overlaid so you can see how much it needs to be bent to work.

Whit

@Mr.CPHo you could also just order the correct profile bale from ereplacements.

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/lid-lock-wire-p-1475802.html

That's what I did.  I will still post pics in case you want to bend the JJ bale.

Whit

Quote from: cwmfour on November 07, 2016, 10:03:14 AM
@Mr.CPHo you could also just order the correct profile bale from ereplacements.

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/lid-lock-wire-p-1475802.html

That's what I did.  I will still post pics in case you want to bend the JJ bale.

Whit

Thank you very much, @cwmfour.  I think I'll order the part you linked; for $5.72 I'll save myself a bunch of time and curse words!


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@Mr.CPHo , @cwmfour


Okay, guys, here is a picture of the lid lock hole that I drilled in my 18.5" kettle, with a tape measure. I also took a picture of the  lid lock on the 18.5" Outrider that I used to have. I did not have the,Outrider yet when I built this kettle, so I had to use my best guess as to where to drill. The Outrider's hole placement would have worked better.

My mod:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161108/4c5a606bcefc3153818ccef3cf29f5e9.jpg)

The Outrider:
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Thanks for the help guys!


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@jcnaz with the current setup on the 18.5 lid bale is it pretty tight?  On my JJ and my SJG I have to pull up slightly to clip the bale onto the handle.

Should I set the hole lower than what you are showing?  Thanks so much for the info!

Whit 

@Mr.CPHo here are the comparisons of the lid bales. JJ bale has the more acute angle.  SJP is almost a 90 degree.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161108/13195b45fd4b39bb829ca44a5f9f2aa1.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161108/779506df9bfa6bd0dcafc9e8e6d2f4a5.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161108/59b6ab416780e3a3e3e4bbf07d5eb98f.jpg)

@cwmfour, I'm really glad you pointed out the differences in lid bale shapes.  I'm definitely going to order one instead of using JJ's.


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Quote from: Mr.CPHo on November 08, 2016, 03:21:07 AM
@cwmfour, I'm really glad you pointed out the differences in lid bale shapes.  I'm definitely going to order one instead of using JJ's.


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You betcha.  I was in the same situation.  I was going to try to reuse a JJ bale until I saw this thread.  Post some pictures when you are done with the mod.

Whit

Quote from: cwmfour on November 07, 2016, 06:43:18 PM
@jcnaz with the current setup on the 18.5 lid bale is it pretty tight?  On my JJ and my SJG I have to pull up slightly to clip the bale onto the handle.

Should I set the hole lower than what you are showing?  Thanks so much for the info!

Whit

When I was done drilling  on my modded 18.5, my lid lock was about 1/3 of an inch too loose. I was able to reshape the steel enough to get a nice, tight fit. Now that I have measured an actual Outrider (Smokey Joe Platinum) I would drill the holes a bit lower on the bowl.

Thanks @jcnaz that's exactly what I wanted to know.  I'm waiting for the wooden locking handle from Brian to finalize the fit.  It's difficult to test fit just the bale at all, but especially without the handle.

FWIW, I ordered the lid bale wire (#86824) last Friday, but just got an email from ereplacements that they're on back order and won't ship for 12-18 business days.  Unfortunately it's holding up the rest of my order too, other fun things like a thermo bezel, lid lock support, etc. 
Now I need another project while I wait... (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161115/421672f066aee9003dae7ade7053ec6b.jpg)


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How did this one turn out. I'm itching to make the tuck and carry mod to my 18 or get a jj. Whichever is cheaper and/or better.


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Quote from: HoosierKettle on December 15, 2016, 11:17:24 AM
How did this one turn out. I'm itching to make the tuck and carry mod to my 18 or get a jj. Whichever is cheaper and/or better.


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Still waiting on some parts.


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@cwmfour, I drilled holes 3.75" down from the rim and got a perfect fit for the lid lock and bale.


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Wow!!!  This is awesome.  An improvement on the JJ.  This is something Weber SHOULD make and pay you forever for.

I like how it carries everything you need.

  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/1154e271ea2f34b91b92620a8a616378.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/42fae3b2dc193baa98e6effbb1243ab5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/6023f9c21181f3b7e3a3d37056bffee7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/07e087d9cf1e6aeae397484e944d8698.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/58a2a44b073a3704f78e2347add7a07a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/ebcec0edbf87320574961ca7a2949161.jpg)


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that looks super lagit. did you add the metal locks on the handle or did you add on a new handle.

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Looking good! @ Mr.CPHo.  Zav SJP wood handle and the vent tab looks great.

@ LiquidOcelot - you can get them from Zav.

Love it. Can't beat a portable one touch.


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She's a beauty!  Great work!

That is sweet!  Well done.

That takes it to an whole new level!

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