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Title: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Neil_VT00 on January 16, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
@Jan M. and I were discussing GA changes/history and he pointed out to me that he has a newer GA without side handles.  Turns out that Weber has updated the German GA's with a taco handle, no side handles, and a new regulator.  Looks like it was released in 2014.

Model Numbers: 1131004 and 1141079
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/01/16/CGA---Model-1131004---German.png) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/01/16/GGA---Model-1141079---German.png)
http://www.weber.com/DE/de/grills/tragbare-grills/go-anywhere-serie/1131004.html?cgid=224#start=1
http://www.weber.com/DE/de/1141079.html

So for those of you looking to add a new GA to your collection, act fast. My guess is that these changes are coming to the U.S. too.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 16, 2018, 08:19:47 AM
That looks slick. I'd love to loose the handles on mine because it will fit more compactly with the other gear. Thing is that I pack the CGA full of charcoal, a chimney and it has cast grates so that wold be a lot of weight on the taco handle. 
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: LiquidOcelot on January 16, 2018, 08:21:42 AM
That looks slick. I'd love to loose the handles on mine because it will fit more compactly with the other gear. Thing is that I pack the CGA full of charcoal, a chimney and it has cast grates so that wold be a lot of weight on the taco handle.
But when you wanna move a warm one you lose your finger prints lol

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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Neil_VT00 on January 16, 2018, 08:25:49 AM
Good point @GoAnywhereJeep. You could even put the taco on with wing nuts to make it more compact.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 16, 2018, 08:55:05 AM
Good point @GoAnywhereJeep. You could even put the taco on with wing nuts to make it more compact.

That would even be more compact and sounds like it would fit nicely into some sort of a soft case or compact carrying bag.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: DellJones on January 16, 2018, 10:42:04 AM
Interesting


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: hawgheaven on January 16, 2018, 11:21:49 AM
Nice thing about the "taco"... they are trying to protect us from burns, and protect them from a law suit I suppose. Personally, I like the concept. Seems the whole thing could be a bit beefier, butt they're headed in the right direction. It does work. I am working on a "drop in" version of the taco for my older stuff. Grate idea Weber came up with. Do not poo-poo the taco idea.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: kettlebb on January 16, 2018, 11:34:34 AM
I’ll poo-poo the taco on the 22 and 26 because it’s ugly but on the 18 and SJ I think it looks acceptable. I have not yet cooked on a taco grill so I can’t comment on how helpful they are personally but I’ve read your comments and I’m eager to cook on one.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: kettlebb on January 16, 2018, 11:35:57 AM
If I were to have a dedicated pizza cooker it would probably be a taco grill


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: hawgheaven on January 16, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
I’ll poo-poo the taco on the 22 and 26 because it’s ugly but on the 18 and SJ I think it looks acceptable. I have not yet cooked on a taco grill so I can’t comment on how helpful they are personally but I’ve read your comments and I’m eager to cook on one.

Don't judge a book by its cover. It works very well. My 22's all have the taco, and they work well. My 18's and SJ's, nope, not yet. Don't have them. Gonna tho, once I get this "drop in"worked out. I love picking up a lid and the handle heat is still negotiable.  8)
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: wessonjb on January 16, 2018, 03:18:34 PM
The taco might look ugly but as hawgheaven says , it definitely works and can feel a big difference in heat while lifting the lid.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on January 16, 2018, 03:44:11 PM
Que no hablan mal de los tacos!
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: greenweb on January 16, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
I’ll poo-poo the taco on the 22 and 26 because it’s ugly but on the 18 and SJ I think it looks acceptable. I have not yet cooked on a taco grill so I can’t comment on how helpful they are personally but I’ve read your comments and I’m eager to cook on one.


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I do have few taco 22" kettles and choose to alter few handles for fun not because I am taco hater, but I think they perform and look alright. For me, my only 18" taco looks funny as the proportion seems all wrong. Even worse on SJ/SJG tacos.

Let's just say that if you had 20" or 19" wheels on Large Suv or cars  vs same wheels on a compact or sub compact cars..... let me know which one will look funnier.

As for 26", due to the heavier lid, I would think non taco will be better. I am sure taco 26" are just fine,but I do prefer my non taco for 26".
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Craig on January 18, 2018, 07:00:50 AM
First thing this made me think of....





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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Darko on January 18, 2018, 07:37:20 AM
What bothers me about the taco, is not the taco itself, but the shape of the handle strap. If the strap was the same as the welded strap with the taco, I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Neil_VT00 on January 18, 2018, 07:59:12 AM
What bothers me about the taco, is not the taco itself, but the shape of the handle strap. If the strap was the same as the welded strap with the taco, I'd be happy.

I'm with you @Darko.  The strap makes it look cheap to me.  The older 26's with the weld on handles and taco looked much better.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: hawgheaven on January 18, 2018, 09:10:49 AM
What bothers me about the taco, is not the taco itself, but the shape of the handle strap. If the strap was the same as the welded strap with the taco, I'd be happy.

I am not stuck on the new handle strap either... needs to be a bit beefier for sure, and I agree, the welded strap has much more strength and appeal.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Jan M. on January 18, 2018, 09:26:30 AM
I just miss the option to move it when it’s hot.
The taco itself looks ok to me but I also agree with the strange shape of the handle.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Rub on January 18, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
Generally speaking I don’t like the look of the taco, it takes away from the aesthetics of the kettle. But when I recently painted my JJ taco and handle straps to match the kettle color, I became a fan.



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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: kettlebb on January 18, 2018, 09:47:50 AM
Yeah Rub that is a sharp looking JJ


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Darko on January 18, 2018, 10:27:46 AM
I think at one point @greenweb  bent his taco to look more like the original strap. It looked pretty good if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: greenweb on January 18, 2018, 06:16:38 PM
I think at one point @greenweb  bent his taco to look more like the original strap. It looked pretty good if I recall correctly.

Thanks ! 

Double screw Zav wood handle without the taco shell.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/01/18/IMG_4045-2.jpg)

Currently, with the shell on.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2018/01/18/IMG_4747-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Darko on January 19, 2018, 09:14:40 AM
That's the pic. See, I think that looks better than the new taco handle shape.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: kettlebb on January 19, 2018, 10:31:08 AM
I agree Darko. For me it’s more the handle shape than the taco.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: hawgheaven on January 19, 2018, 10:50:51 AM
That's the pic. See, I think that looks better than the new taco handle shape.

Yup, that handle gots it. The taco idea rocks along with that handle reshape.  8)
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on January 19, 2018, 05:45:50 PM
Taco handle, no taco handle.  I don’t care.  I love my GA!  Used it 5 times this week since it was just me.   Haven’t fired up an SJ except to use my Mini WSM mod since I got my GA!


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: SmokenJoe on January 19, 2018, 09:28:35 PM
In my view, if Weber wanted to make the handle "cooler", all it had to do was return to a wooden handle.  No need to invent a "TACO" shield for a heat-seeking plastic-like handle.   Taco Bell makes tacos, Weber makes kettles.  The current design is hideous  ...

SJ
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: hawgheaven on January 20, 2018, 04:32:41 AM
In my view, if Weber wanted to make the handle "cooler", all it had to do was return to a wooden handle.  No need to invent a "TACO" shield for a heat-seeking plastic-like handle.   Taco Bell makes tacos, Weber makes kettles.  The current design is hideous  ...

SJ

Not hideous in my eyes, butt the strap needs work.

Or maybe gloves. The old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: HoosierKettle on January 20, 2018, 06:27:14 AM
I need one of these new or old. I would prefer old if I had to choose. These absolutely never pop up used in my area and I don’t need one bad enough to justify new. The only thing that pops up are the gas ga’s which I do have. Great grill but I want it’s charcoal cousin.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: kettlebb on January 20, 2018, 06:46:02 AM
Truth be told, I still haven’t cooked on one of my SJ Golds yet but will be soon. The only advantage I can see on the GA is more room for an indirect side. Is this true?  If so does indirect really matter for a SJ or GA?  I do see these in my area but always pass them by.

Hoosier if you are looking I’ll keep an eye out.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: Neil_VT00 on January 20, 2018, 07:09:31 AM
I think it has a few advantages over an SJ.

1. Surface are of the grate on the GA is larger. 160v147 sq in. Doesn’t seem like much? But it’s almost 10%.
2. Offset cooking.
3. Portability, I think the rectangular shape with folding legs travels better then an SJ.
4. Packable, you can load it up with a small chimney filled with coals, lighter cube, lighter, and a spatula and have a nice compact ready to go setup.


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Title: Re: Updated GA's (now with taco)
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on January 20, 2018, 09:39:55 AM
Truth be told, I still haven’t cooked on one of my SJ Golds yet but will be soon. The only advantage I can see on the GA is more room for an indirect side. Is this true?  If so does indirect really matter for a SJ or GA?  I do see these in my area but always pass them by.

Hoosier if you are looking I’ll keep an eye out.


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I think due to the GA having adjustable top and bottom vents it really helps for indirect cooking.  Coals on one side with the top vent close and the bottom vents opened, then the top vent open and bottom closed on the indirect side.  I've done some killer chicken legs and thighs when I am cooking for myself.  Two maybe three thighs depending on their size, or 3-4 legs works great and they come out nice and crispy.  Also works great for 3-4 brats.  Use a small disposable pan and put a can of sauerkraut in it then the brats on top.  Smoke for a while indirect, then move the brats to the direct side to finish them up.  I've also done some random rice based casserole type dishes in small disposable foil pans indirect when I've just thrown together random meals based on what I had on hand. (rice, tomato sauce, green chilies, sliced up brats or sausages, or shrimp added later in the cook for the protein.)