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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: vwengguy on August 11, 2017, 06:06:42 AM
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TO BE USED ON THE INSIDE OF THE KETTLE ONLY ! IF NOTHING ELSE WORKS !
Just my little bit of help to prevent kettle razor burn or kettle rash.
I know a standard way to clean a crusty kettle is to use a razor at a very low angle and if you are handy this works great. But you can also do damage at the same time if your not super careful.
This is what I use and it works great for me.
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I get these from Germany but I did some google'n and see that there is a company in Ohio called American Cutting Edge that also makes them. The trick to this type razor is the rounded corners, or lack of corners.
Using this type of razor I have never seen razor scratches in my kettles.
Thanks for reading.
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Thanks for the all around good tip
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Thanks for the tip!
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Itll be interesting to see how many more grills are wrecked by rounded razors....
Damn shame so many grills have had the piss scratched out of them, especially the ones that were barely dirty and never needed to be razor rashed & scoured to begin with.
What would really be interesting, to me, is too see a magnified shot of the damage done and compare it to brand new. I think what we'll see is the equivalent of using a serrated razor due to the micro nicks & chips caused by scrapeing over anything more durable than the razor's edge.
Some of the bullshit I'v seen with the razors around here is absolute dis-Respect.
The only thing that bothers me more about some of the pseudo RRRs is when concrete work surfaces are used to "restore & respect" a grill....when theres a grass, wood, plastic surface only a few feet from the recked grill.
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Sorry if you think I was promoting round razors as the new wonder cleaner that can do no harm.
My only suggestion was " there is something better out there " if you want to razor your kettle.
Tools don't do damage to your kettles.. it's the inexperience of the tool user and lack of for thought that causes damage.
I have used them for years (when needed) and not had a problem when used carefully.
I have also had kettles that looked like the last owner used a chain saw to clean it, so I know what it looks like and what causes it.
I'm sorry that you feel the need to chuck this info into your "BullShit" bucket.
No Dis-Respect intended.
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I'm no expert but I have razored the inside of a couple kettles and I wouldn't do it again if I plan on cooking with it. One use and all effort is undone. I would want to razor or try other means to get a kettle squeaky clean if it was going to be a looker only.
I don't have any looker only kettles. All of my grills I've been getting lately get a quick scrape with a plastic scraper and that's it.
I don't blame anyone for trying to get a kettle squeaky clean if they want. I have suspected that razor scraping does put micro abrasions in the surface, but again, it doesn't really matter if it's a cooker.
Just an opinion from a cooker not a collector.
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Itll be interesting to see how many more grills are wrecked by rounded razors....
Damn shame so many grills have had the piss scratched out of them, especially the ones that were barely dirty and never needed to be razor rashed & scoured to begin with.
Damn, what you guys are doing with your razor blades?? I have cleaned and resto'd probably 100+ kettles and never had issues with scratching. Am I careful? Of course... but that's just common sense.
Unless you are holding it at too steep of an angle or dry scraping the shit outta it I'm rather baffled by this?
Tools don't do damage to your kettles.. it's the inexperience of the tool user and lack of for thought that causes damage.
BINGO!
@vwengguy great suggestion on the rounded blades as that's the one bit that could potentially dig in - thanks [emoji106]
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I will clarify, I have not had any issues that I can tell razor scraping and I'm not anti razor scrape. I just don't see a need since the first cook gets the bowl dirty and undoes all of the work.
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I give 'em a vigorous rub down with
a copper mesh scrubbie loaded with a slightly diluted
dose of good old blue Dawn.
It knocks off the bump and loose debris
and makes short work of the carbon
flakes (PEELING PAINT!!!!) inside the lid.
It's softer than steel wool and have never
had a worry about scratching.
choreboyscrubbers.com/chore-boy-products/copper-scouring-pads
0000 steel wool is still my choice to go at the stubborn
stuff on the outside. I use 'em for cooking
so if it's not spotless I don't really care.
If the steel wool won't take it off, it stays as a battle scar.
(beauty mark)
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Itll be interesting to see how many more grills are wrecked by rounded razors....
Damn shame so many grills have had the piss scratched out of them, especially the ones that were barely dirty and never needed to be razor rashed & scoured to begin with.
Damn, what you guys are doing with your razor blades?? I have cleaned and resto'd probably 100+ kettles and never had issues with scratching. Am I careful? Of course... but that's just common sense.
Unless you are holding it at too steep of an angle or dry scraping the shit outta it I'm rather baffled by this?
I was going to say that too....people are able to screw up a kettle with a razor? I normally use 0000 steel wool like everyone else and simple green/razor on the interior. Never had a problem.
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;-)
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Take a look at the grill on the resto/clean page and try to tell me its not razor rashed...
http://weberkettleclub.com/weber-grill-restoration-interior-and-exterior-kettle-cleaning/
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It's not razor rashed.
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Not razor rashed at all. This was my kettle and write up.
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What is going on here?
I've never heard of razor damage.
Out of every method I've tried on more grills than I care to admit... the razor scraper has been:
- absolutely, hands down the best tool for the job
- never ever caused damage to anything other than my own flesh
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Yeah, I've never had a problem with razor blades either.
I scrape and steel wool with some dish soap
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What is going on here?
I've never heard of razor damage.
Out of every method I've tried on more grills than I care to admit... the razor scraper has been:
- absolutely, hands down the best tool for the job
- never ever caused damage to anything other than my own flesh
Why did the OP start the thread if a razor never damaged a grill?
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What is going on here?
I've never heard of razor damage.
Out of every method I've tried on more grills than I care to admit... the razor scraper has been:
- absolutely, hands down the best tool for the job
- never ever caused damage to anything other than my own flesh
Why did the OP start the thread if a razor never damaged a grill?
I don't know, that's why I'm asking for clarification.
This is literally the first I've ever heard of damage to a kettle (older than 1958) due to razor scraping.
Is there evidence of this anywhere?
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If you are damaging kettles with a razor, you are doing it wrong.
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I already pointed out one thread but its not a problem digging up others.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/birth-year-yellow-clean-up/msg312680/#msg312680
For the record Im not trying to defame or demoralize anyone, unlike Matt's quote, I'm just pointing out whats obvious to me.
Its a problem I see getting worse as time rolls on and if no one says anything about it then the respect part might as well be in the shitter.
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lol ?
Dude you came in here all ranting and raving about razor damage as if people were destroying kettles left right and center. I simply responded with my own opinion on the matter and apparently that was somehow demoralizing to you?? And then you post a link to my resto post saying that its all scratched up but I'm the one out to "defame" people? haha all good man. Have yourself a great night.
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I already pointed out one thread but its not a problem digging up others.
http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/birth-year-yellow-clean-up/msg312680/#msg312680
For the record Im not trying to defame or demoralize anyone, unlike Matt's quote, I'm just pointing out whats obvious to me.
Its a problem I see getting worse as time rolls on and if no one says anything about it then the respect part might as well be in the shitter.
With all due respect, I don't see the razor rash issue with that yellow.
I see some scratches inside the lid. I see you calling them out.
I don't see anywhere that identifies the scratches as coming from a razor.
Can we keep the other nonsense out of the discussion? If razors are a problem, let's get the evidence out on the table and find a better way.
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From the above thread (comment on that yellow) there does appear to be some faint scratches in the porcelain. Hmmm?
I have personally never scratched one...but always hold the blade flat/45 when scraping.
Sounds like something for WKC "Mythbusters." Maybe time for an experiment? @troy what do you think?
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Under the assumption that razors can cause damage, I don't see why these would help.
These blades still have a point where the sharp edge meets the curve which seems like it would create the same effect as a traditional blade. Maybe the smaller width of the sharp portion of the blade lets it fit the contour of the bowl better??
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Another thing that could be happening here is that dull razor blades are being used. I generally use 6-8 blades per kettle because hard buildup will take the edge off the blade in as little as 1/4 of the bowl. If the blade edge is beat up enough then yes you probably could scratch it. There are also cheap razors out there that will dull even faster than that... I like the Stanley brand blades you can find at HD.
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From the above thread (comment on that yellow) there does appear to be some faint scratches in the porcelain. Hmmm?
I have personally never scratched one...but always hold the blade flat/45 when scraping.
Sounds like something for WKC "Mythbusters." Maybe time for an experiment? @Troy what do you think?
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@crumbsnatcher can you tell us more about those scratches? Were those self-inflicted? (it's ok, we won't judge. I once knocked over a yellow onto the concrete)
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Perhaps I goofed when I razored this lid? I'm not sure. I've cleaned many and never scratched any porcelain before. The lid was pretty dirty so I couldn't tell you if I caused those scratches or there were there previously. Really didn't noticed it until it was pointed out to me in the picture. Those scratches are hairline and are very light.
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Perhaps I goofed when I razored this lid? I'm. It sure. I've cleaned many and never scratched any porcelain before. The lid was pretty dirty so I couldn't tell you if I caused those scratches or there were there previously. Really didn't noticed it until it was pointed out to me in the picture. Those scratches are hairline and are very light.
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Thank you.
I don't think your razor scratched your grill.
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Hell Fire Grill, what's your solution then? Its easy to call someone out, but what's a better way? Your infinite knowledge of a better answer to cleaning our kettles is wanted... if it is truly better... if so, I'll be the first to utilize it
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@crumbsnatcher
Thanks for stepping up & clarifying that.
Six is right about the dull razors. The way I see it is, as the edge gets used it develops tiny serrations. When it goes over a broken surface, like the leg socket area thats frequently pooched in, the blade gets nicks & burrs, then dragged all over hell & back. All that coupled with the squared corner of the traditional style blades.
Ya I know some of you are WTFing me over big dealing something that may be invisible to you, thats ok.
But the point is --In My Opinion-- when the shiney/polished surface gets scratched or dulled it opens the finish up to degradation & rust, especially in areas that hold ashes.
I dont have infinite knowledge but if you wana be condescending we can do that @jdorn.
No more razors is my suggestion for now.
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I could see how a nicked up blade could potentially cause damage
I think moving forward I will continue to suggest using a razor, but emphasize care and new blades.
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Change blades more frequently than you think you should and keep a low angle of approach. And I agree, no need to go balls deep on a cooker.
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Itll be interesting to see how many more grills are wrecked by rounded razors....
Damn shame so many grills have had the piss scratched out of them, especially the ones that were barely dirty and never needed to be razor rashed & scoured to begin with.
Damn, what you guys are doing with your razor blades?? I have cleaned and resto'd probably 100+ kettles and never had issues with scratching. Am I careful? Of course... but that's just common sense.
Unless you are holding it at too steep of an angle or dry scraping the shit outta it I'm rather baffled by this?
Tools don't do damage to your kettles.. it's the inexperience of the tool user and lack of for thought that causes damage.
BINGO!
@vwengguy great suggestion on the rounded blades as that's the one bit that could potentially dig in - thanks [emoji106]
I agree 100% Never hurt a grill with a razor.. And at $15 a box, I'll stick to my Harbor Freight ones at $2 a box
I also don't use a tool to hold a blade, its hard to get the correct angle.
The only nicks I get are on my fingers!
8)
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Razor blades can scratch the porcelain. Usually its because they are dull, nicked, or at the wrong angle. Those scratch looking things in Matt's picks are minute residue left over after the scrape that can be removed with soap and 0000 steel wool.
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A can of Easy Off eliminates all the "razor rash" and is so much faster. Now the tree huggers will comment,,,,,,,,,,,,
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A can of Easy Off eliminates all the "razor rash" and is so much faster. Now the tree huggers will comment,,,,,,,,,,,,
I can't speak for everyone, but I always use Easy Off to clean my used razor blades before resharpening them to use on the next kettle.
If you think razors damage the porcelain, don't use them. I've personally never had a museum quality kettle and don't think I ever will.
I'll use razors to clean them up so the next user feels like they've got a nice piece of equipment. If that means the kettle will only last them 20 years instead of 30, then they've still gotten 20 years they wouldn't have otherwise. Plus Weber gets to sell another kettle in 20 years - it's a win win win situation.
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A can of Easy Off eliminates all the "razor rash" and is so much faster. Now the tree huggers will comment,,,,,,,,,,,,
Easy off doesn't remove creosote.
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A can of Easy Off eliminates all the "razor rash" and is so much faster. Now the tree huggers will comment,,,,,,,,,,,,
I used to swear by the Easy off, but it ends up being more work and it takes even longer than razor blades.
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I buy about 6 cans of oven cleaner at a time. I just hit the inside of the kettle every time I walk by it for 2 - 7 days. By that time, 90% comes off with a hose. The rest comes off easily with a blade or steel wool. I'm in no rush though. Never had a problem with scratches from a blade though.