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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: Slicer021 on January 08, 2016, 04:47:03 AM
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Hey Guys! I have been away for awhile with just life getting real crazy for me. I finally got rid of my ole CharBroil gasser that was taking a huge amount of Real estate on my porch as well. Now my wife tells me I need to buy me a table to fit on my 22 So we can have a decent work surface. I told her I had a better idea that I needed to add another grill to my arsenal and pick me up a Performer from CL and she gave me the go ahead woohoo. I was wondering is there anything in particular I need to look for when picking up a used Performer. I have several areas set up to notify me from CL for Webers so hopefully with some patience I can pick me up a good one. Thanks all for any advice and its nice to be back on here.
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Any of them can be refurbished, so it comes down to cost, whether or not you mind fixing one potentially and preference for style/color. As for what to look for? See if it lights! Check the condition of both grates too. You'll probably need to replace the two little wheels.
Basically, look for stuff you might need to replace right away unless you don't mind doing that, say if a particular color strikes you.
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The condition of the bowl/lid would be my main concern. Everything else can be easily tweaked, cleaned, repaired or replaced.
good luck!
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If its a performer with propane check the bowl for high heat crazing. Both of the performers that I got off of CL the bowls were in terrible shape, I guess the owners were keeping the igniter on along with the charcoal to cook with. Both of my bowls have been replaced since they are still under warranty. So that might be another factor to consider make sure the performer is new enough that it is still under warranty.
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Do the performers use the Date Codes on the lid vent?
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Do the performers use the Date Codes on the lid vent?
Yes they do. Same code system as a regular kettle
Just bought my first performer. I can already tell I'm gonna love it!
Good luck in your search.
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Thanks everyone for your info. I am gonna keep my eyes peeled on CL for a good but. Would love to have a Green or Blue Performer and SS if I could find one. I can tell though I need one Kettle to keep my Vortex in, one for the SnS when I pick one up and another for whatever else LOL. Was also thinking about building me a UDS but I keep seeing some of the SJ conversions seem real close.
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This one looks like a green ss performer. Good price.
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/for/5384814135.html (http://raleigh.craigslist.org/for/5384814135.html)
(http://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_jMLJzA0MtcL_600x450.jpg)
A little pricier but might have some wiggle room if you are interested in a black one. Includes a cover which is a good bonus!
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/hsh/5384714856.html (http://raleigh.craigslist.org/hsh/5384714856.html)
(http://images.craigslist.org/00W0W_lwWpotY0M19_600x450.jpg)
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Yea I have emailed both of those owners but haven't heard back yet. Thanks for posting those tho
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Here is some good reading while you wait:
http://weberkettleclub.com/grills/weber-performer-history/ (http://weberkettleclub.com/grills/weber-performer-history/)
Winz
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With the SSPs specifically, you really need to give the cart a good checking over. Most are rock solid, but quite a few out there have gotten rusted out and are all cattywampus. Even those can be fixed, but it's more effort/cost.
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Nice read there Winz thanks for that. Helps me with hopefully being able to identify one too. Thanks for that info as well Demo
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With the SSPs specifically, you really need to give the cart a good checking over. Most are rock solid, but quite a few out there have gotten rusted out and are all cattywampus. Even those can be fixed, but it's more effort/cost.
This ^^^^.
I think I have 4 SSPs....2 are solid. One needed a quick stabilization repair to keep it from doing the forward lean/collapse. I atttached 90-degree brackets w/ self-tapping screws in the 4 upper frame corners. On one the frame is shot and is apart for future (likely never) repair. 8)
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So both of the SSPs posted above are Gen1? Do they both seem to be worth $100-$150? They are both still available
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So both of the SSPs posted above are Gen1? Do they both seem to be worth $100-$150? They are both still available
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All SS Performers are Gen 1, as all Gen 1 Performers have a square stock steel frame and a stainless steel, flip-up table. Gen 2 and 3 Performers have a round tube frame and a thermoset table that is fixed to the frame.
The latest Performer (gen 4) has a metal table again, but not SS and still fixed to a tubular frame.
Are they worth $100 or more? That is a question for the ages! In areas where Performers were very popular and there are plenty of used ones for sale $100 may be high. If you don't often see them on your local Craigslist, then a clean and sturdy example may be worth more.
The green one in the ad looks like it might be in really good shape. Hard to tell from the CL pic.
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They are both Gen 1. I think $100 would be fair it all depends on condition, if it's in really good condition you could go higher. Judge the condition first then make an offer, if the gas doesn't work or it's out make a lower offer. A fair price what you are willing to pay and what the seller will take.
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I have been seeing right many Performers lately but just not the SS ones. I like the SS better than the others. The seller for the green one seems to want to move it where the other seller is not responding.
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Gen1 performers vary a lot by us region. Also depends if the seller knows the value..especially discontinued color kettle colors..ie. redhead. Hands down one of the most popular gen1 colors for a weber collector.
2nd factor is the condition of the kettle...i dont view the frame as important.
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Frame condition will vary as well..some will need work and that is what it is for a discontinued model.
You may want to consider buying more than 1.
If you are new to gen1 models..some of the parts are discontinued and you can only source them in the used market
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Ie..discontinued frame parts: wire rack , charcoal bucket, metal lighter instruction plate...tank assembly bracket, old style ash bucket and ash ring, ash catcher bar, 7409 ash sweep...to name a few discontinued parts...some frame parts are still available but very very expensive to buy
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That green one appears to be in pretty good condition judging by the pictures. If I were you I'd go check it out
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Awesome thanks @toolhead for the info
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... Are they worth $100 or more? That is a question for the ages! In areas where Performers were very popular and there are plenty of used ones for sale $100 may be high. If you don't often see them on your local Craigslist, then a clean and sturdy example may be worth more. ...
That's how I feel also. Know your market, and how the relative frequency a certain type you may be interested in becomes available.
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Approach it more diplomatically, knowing that a new Performer is ~$350, so anything less than that is a good deal. And sleep well ... IMO only the most ardent collectors need to watch the bottom line because they'd presumably be buying often.
I paid $125, or was it $150? for my '92 red Performer with the proper cover. That's either low or high depending on your point of view, but I've only seen a couple other red Performers come online in my area. Then again, both grates, the ashcan hangar bar and the old wire charcoal baskets were shot, the tank was empty, and it needed a regulator. And I didn't care.
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Awesome thanks @toolhead for the info
Brother toolhead speaks the truth but I feel a little perspective may be in order regarding the hard-to-find original parts for the SS Performers.
charcoal bucket, metal lighter instruction plate...tank assembly bracket
I don't know that these really "go bad" often. The SS used a 5lb tank, which is expensive ($50-ish if you need to get one) compared to how much gas it can hold. So if you'd wind up using a 10 or 20b tank and another hose ... its bracket isn't an issue anyway.
I'm using the tank my '92 came to me with, an '01 I think ... when refilling, my local ACE hardware doesn't seem to care it's expired although I have to tell the counter gal it's a "4lb tank" because a "BBQ tank" gets priced as a 20lb tank. I did also change out the old connector for the modern "acme nut" style.
old style ash bucket and ash ring, ash catcher bar, 7409 ash sweep
There's a lot of info about these parts on this site. I bought a reproduction (aluminum) bar for the 7409-style sweeps form zavod44 but after about a year or so traded the entire assembly for the newest style ash can and "H" ash sweeps. In my opinion the "H" sweeps are superior because it just fits together; there's no attachment/adjustment bolt. The current or last-gen ashcan ring can attach to the oldest One Touch models with either radiator hose clamps or screws into the leg sockets, and (again, IMO) supports the ashcan more securely than the old setup ever could.
Point being, new parts can be adapted to work, and work better, so don't fret the common parts not being available for SS. The frame on the other hand might need some work if rusty. There's info here about that as well, bicycle frame star nuts or some such I think.
Edit: The hose that goes from the regular to burner tube is expensive now from Weber, available only as a complete assembly with other parts not usually needed. That said, its another part that doesn't usually need replacing. The regulator, of course more commonly needing replacement, can be swapped out with a Mr Heater from Amazon for less than $15 for example.
So pick what you want, we can get 'er going! If you're tall, consider the newer styles (not SS) because those machines are a little higher. Not sure if that was mentioned.
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... Are they worth $100 or more? That is a question for the ages! In areas where Performers were very popular and there are plenty of used ones for sale $100 may be high. If you don't often see them on your local Craigslist, then a clean and sturdy example may be worth more. ...
That's how I feel also. Know your market, and how the relative frequency a certain type you may be interested in becomes available.
OR
Approach it more diplomatically, knowing that a new Performer is ~$350, so anything less than that is a good deal. And sleep well ... IMO only the most ardent collectors need to watch the bottom line because they'd presumably be buying often.
I paid $125, or was it $150? for my '92 red Performer with the proper cover. That's either low or high depending on your point of view, but I've only seen a couple other red Performers come online in my area. Then again, both grates, the ashcan hangar bar and the old wire charcoal baskets were shot, the tank was empty, and it needed a regulator. And I didn't care.
pretty much the boat I was in on all counts. weber stuff doesn't come up often where I am, much less what I wanted(copper gas-assist performer). after well over a year of looking, I finally saw one for a fair price in good shape and had the cash(thanks to Christmas money). decided to get it and didn't even try to haggle. it was what I wanted and I had the funds for it, so I bought it. aside from new grates, all it needs is bale rollers and washers/nuts and the gas assist system to be hooked up(previous owner never completed that part of the assembly). if it helps, I paid $175. it's more than I wanted to pay, but, all things considered(market, condition, color....etc) I felt it was a fair price and am happy that I finally have a copper gas-assist performer.
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Buying a ss performer ? Make sure you have a dremel with accessories handy...sanding drums /fiberglass cutting discs and grinding stones..all set.
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@addicted-to-smoke Thanks a lot man for all the info.
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The Gen 1 performer is similar to a classic car compared to a new one. If you put a few bucks into the classic it'll outlast the new one. You can get a old one made out of American made steel parts or you can buy a new one made out of Chinese exhaust pipe and recycled plastic.
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Not sure how close this is to you, but appears to be a good deal.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Webber-performer-premuim-22-charcole-grill-w-gas-starter-and-cover-rearly-used-/172060343565?nav=SEARCH
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This *thumbs up*
The Gen 1 performer is similar to a classic car compared to a new one. If you put a few bucks into the classic it'll outlast the new one. You can get a old one made out of American made steel parts or you can buy a new one made out of Chinese exhaust pipe and recycled plastic.
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I will keep that all in mind. Struck out in a couple Performers recently but keeping in the path to find a good one
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@toolhead knows & his stuff does a fine job.
@addicted-to-smoke "" & has listed some upgrades I'm looking to to
& don't be afraid to pick up one that could use some TLC, plenty of guides & passionate advisers here...
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Thanks Robert
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Good to hear from you mike.
That ez redhead ssp looks familiar....
Im glad she went to a WKC member...im sure you are seasoning her well.
It was good to meet you this past summer. Happy new year and best wishes to a healthy and prosperous 2016