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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: G on September 24, 2012, 05:37:02 PM
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With the Ranch finding a new home in the garage, I couldnt help but tinkering with it a little bit this weekend. I hosed out the inside and gave it a quick steel wool scrub to remove caked on grease/ash. Afterwards, I followed HeyJude's suggestion and tried warm soapy water with a green scrub pad with no luck. I moved up to lacquer thinner and 0000 steel wool. With some elbow grease, the dull grey paint gave way to expose a dull brick red paint, then the underlying porcelain. I was able to clear a small area and to my surprise, this grill was originally red (see lip of lid). The porcelain, which has a light pink color, is in fair condition near the sides of the lid but appears to be almost completey gone at the top. The darker circles in the photos are areas of bare metal.
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I also removed and polished the legs...
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and straightened and polished part of the triangle (I ran out of time before finishing)
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The wheels are in pretty rough shape.
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This is going to take some time to strip both the lid and bowl. In the meantime, a few questions for the pros...
1) Can the wheel tread be repaired?
2) The thumbscrews on two of the legs are rusted tight. What is the best way to remove them and preserve the threading for future use?
3) Looking ahead, will some sort of finish be needed to prevent rust in areas of bare metal?
4) Will the current Ranch grates sold by Weber fit this grill? The width of the bowl is just over 37". Id prefer not to spend the money on a new set so Im open for other ideas.
Any insight or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Wow that does look pretty rough..... But 40, right? Not too bad.....
I didn't think they made red ranches..... Interesting.
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An original red ranch! :o
I would leave it as clost to original as possible even if it's a faded pink in areas. Otherwise repaint it red with 900 degree red. It should hold and it's at least shiney.
The legs and triangle look good. What is your polishing method?
You can either just glue the rubber back on the wheel or you can get some new tread by buying a fanbelt that matches and cutting it to fit.
On the thumb screws, load it up with WD40 an let it sit. Then use a channel locks and work it loose. You can also just put new legs cut to fit on it.
I'm not sure about the bare metal needing anything. It might not if it has any type of galvanizing.
On the grates. Considering the cost of a new one, they will fit, but I would try a rust remover and a wire wheel. Then load it up with food grade oil and start cooking some greasy chicken and pork on it to coat it further and build up a seasoning. If you don't like that then recover it with expanded metal including the bottom one.
Please share more pictures of the whole thing. It's so cool to know they really did make a red ranch! Sorry for doubting yopu all these years Jeff. ;)
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BTW, here's a link to another. http://tvwbb.com/showthread.php?2411-Ever-see-a-RED-Weber-Ranch-Kettle-Here-s-one!
You could powder coat it, but it is pricey.
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Thanks for the link....thats a great story and seems to corroborate with the pink color that Im uncovering. As for polishing, I took some lessons learned from this great site and bought Mothers Mag Aluminum polish. The stuff works amazingly well.
Im planning to leave it as is and use the original legs and wheels. More pics will be provided as I progress.
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The stuff I swear by for busting those fused together rusty bolts is a product called PB blaster. They sell it at home depot. It is the best for rust. Spray it on and leave it for a while, and come back later. It's awesome.
Brian
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PB blaster and Wait.. Spray some more and wait some more. Don't even think of twisting it for a couple weeks.. Spray, wait and repeat..mostly wait..
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I can usually crack it in an hour or so....you don't like it AJ? I have had nothing but luck with it
Brian
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PB Blaster, I have to agree, the one I purchased tonight, one touch didn't move. Half our later, working and saved me $20.00 for a while. Use it on a bunch a stuff and has never failed.
Greg
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I like PB balster. i was just saying that you need to let it do its work. Sometimes that 10 minutes, sometimes its days..
I have another product that the name fails me, it ws given to me and I used it on some rusty locks.
It was amazing.. I will get back to you on the name. You can;t buy it just anywhere..
I have alwyas been a WD-40 kind of guy, but its gotten so overpriced.
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I like PB balster. i was just saying that you need to let it do its work. Sometimes that 10 minutes, sometimes its days..
I have another product that the name fails me, it ws given to me and I used it on some rusty locks.
It was amazing.. I will get back to you on the name. You can;t buy it just anywhere..
I have alwyas been a WD-40 kind of guy, but its gotten so overpriced.
Thanks for this tidbit of information, the fact that you can't remember the name is real helpful. It's like someone at work asking for a tool and someone else responding with I have one at home. I'm glad you took the time to post this.....
You must have got a hold of some pretty good stuff huh....listening to to many Beatle albums I guess
Brian
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Oh yes, I am a Plethora of knowledge.. Thank You for acknowledging my highly technical skills.
For everyone else, I'll find that damn can and post the product name. And yes, its good shiiit!
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Now we have another mystery to solve, when did Weber make a red Ranch? Finding one in good condition will be like finding the Great Pumpkin, or in this case, The Great Redhead! Nice find!!
Craig
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OK, Here it is. The most amazing product to penetrate a rusted together anything!
I just need to figure out where to get some more. This can was sort of gifted.. A long story..
It wokred on a lock that was rusted shut. I didn't want to cut it.
Here is the webiste: http://northamerica.certifiedlabs.com/products-metal-working-fluid.html (http://northamerica.certifiedlabs.com/products-metal-working-fluid.html)
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Id like to see more pics of this Ranch.
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Jeff-anything in particular you want to see?
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is the grill assembled or in parts? Do you have any pics of it together? Its really strange how there seem to be so many different colors (red included) after you cleaned it. Did you take all the original paint off?
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Jeff-the grill is dissambled. I am working on removing the paint from the lid right now...about half done. I havent had a lot of time lately.
The top vent...very little porcelain remaining.
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Current status
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And a close up of the lip of the lid.
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At first I was concerned that I was removing the original color but the brick red color you can see in some of the photos is beneath the black paint but on top of the pink colored porcelain. This leads me to believe the grill was painted twice; once in brick red then black. The brighter red you see in the last photo appears to be underneath the lighter colored porcelain.
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would you guess this paint is probably something that had been applied after the original Weber paint by whoever owned it at the time?
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I assume you are talking about the brighter red...I think this is original paint that is not faded. It is a thicker layer that does not come off with lacquer thinner while the brick red and black are removed fairly easily with some light scrubbing.
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I can't wait to see what it looks like when all of that old paint is off. It looks like there is a lot of bare metal showing. Do you think someone sanded the whole thing down before they painted it the first time?
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Not sure but I dont see any evidence of it. The remaining porcelain is smooth with no scuff marks. I would think you would see some swirling or scuffed areas. I rthink its just age and use showing through....
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Do you think it will be mostly red when it's all stripped then? I hope so! When it's finished we need to put it on our front page. 8)
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The areas shown in the pics is considered complete so I think the remainder will be more of the same...a mix of bare metal and pinkish (maybe more peach colored) porcelain. Too bad there wasnt more original finish. Im a little concerned the bottom may be in worse shape than the top since there appeared to be more pits and pock marks in it. I'll get there eventually. There is a tiny hole in the bowl directly in the middle of one of the leg sockets. Not sure how to fix that (or if I need to).
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Hey @Winz.....look at this !!!!
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Hey @Winz.....look at this !!!!
But where is it now?
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Hey @Winz.....look at this !!!!
But where is it now?
I think Duke ended up with it, right?
This was a test for the "Technical Reference" area & I don't know if Winz has seen this.....he's gathering info on Ranches.......get your cookup pics handy Greg !!!!
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Hey @Winz.....look at this !!!!
But where is it now?
I think Duke ended up with it, right?
This was a test for the "Technical Reference" area & I don't know if Winz has seen this.....he's gathering info on Ranches.......get your cookup pics handy Greg !!!!
Thanks Buckie, Made me LOL! I need to do another cook on the RK. Dynamics are different... Fall is setting in... Most nights and weekends it is just me and the Bride. Holidays are coming up...
Pics? These were memory cooks, and the only two so far worth noting.
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