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Title: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 10, 2013, 12:25:52 PM
So I have been taking my SS Performer apart last few days in what little spare time I have and I decided it being black and all that it needs some bling!! First up a polished ash ring!
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First pics about half way through. Next two finished product.
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So that part is done for the weekend going to sand and scuff up the frame and put a primer coat on. Hopefully this happens as I am on call at work. Then next week polish the ash catcher pot and put a couple coats of paint on the frame. Then next weekend hopefully finish the added stainless table extension I have been building and clean the bowl and lid and put it together again. Trying to figure out whether I want to put new weber wheels on it or do something custom not sure yet.

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Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: MacEggs on August 10, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
Nice shine! Did you use just sandpaper and 0000 steel wool? Thanks.
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Post by: Bob BQ on August 10, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
Then next weekend hopefully finish the added stainless table extension I have been building and clean the bowl and lid and put it together again.

Looks great! Can't wait to see the stainless table extension...
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 10, 2013, 01:09:28 PM
No I used my sander at work and went 320, 400, 500, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, lite buffing pad, then the wheel buffer with a cutter wheel and brown/red rouge, then high luster white rouge and finished with clean cloth buffing wheel with jeweler rouge and final clean and shine by hand.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 10, 2013, 01:33:03 PM
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The tools I used to polish the ring

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Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: pbe gummi bear on August 10, 2013, 01:39:12 PM
Looks great Mikey, what do you do for work?
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Post by: 1911Ron on August 10, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
Nice!!  I would do custom wheels!
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Post by: Bman on August 10, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
Damn, and I thought mine looked good!  Glad to see you took it to a much higher level.
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Post by: Duke on August 10, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Beautiful work! I can't wait to see it installed. :)
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Post by: jcnaz on August 10, 2013, 02:25:08 PM
WOW! I need these to look at it!8)
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Post by: Bluesman on August 10, 2013, 02:31:59 PM
That looks incredible.............process please...............PLEASE...................
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Post by: Aawa on August 10, 2013, 03:29:20 PM
Great looking shine on that badboy!
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Post by: Danny C on August 10, 2013, 03:56:59 PM
How long did it take you to achieve that Shine?  Looks great by the way
Danny
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Post by: landgraftj on August 10, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
Good lord that's beautiful!
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Post by: glrasmussen on August 10, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
That is just down right beautiful!
Title: Polished ash ring
Post by: Peaspurple on August 10, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
That's a shine right there.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 10, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
Looks great Mikey, what do you do for work?


Gummi , thanks. I work as an ambulance/fire truck mechanic and my previous work I worked as a welder fabricator working with stainless steel in food processing And manufacturing. At my current job I am tasked with all repairs of emergency response vehicles from mechanical to fabrication of parts.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 10, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
That looks incredible.............process please...............PLEASE...................

I posted my process towards the beginning of this thread. Basically sand to a very smooth finish keeping the grain all going same direction and then lightly use a very soft scuff/buff pad by hand then use a buffing/polishing cloth wheel with some metal polish rouge and keep stepping it up till desired sheen/polish is achieved.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: pbe gummi bear on August 10, 2013, 08:23:32 PM
How long does it take you, Mikey?
Title: Polished ash ring
Post by: Craig on August 10, 2013, 10:21:42 PM
That ash ring shines like a mirror! Nice job!
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 11, 2013, 10:38:29 AM
I worked on this ring off and on over a 3 days as I had time. I guess it probably took about 2.5 hours total. But keep in mind that it was in pretty rough shape so alot of sanding. A new one probably take maybe an hour.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: Kilted_Griller on August 11, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
Mikey, that is AWESOME!! Did you use a power sander or did you hand sand it?
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 11, 2013, 12:14:19 PM
Used a combination of air power tools and by hand
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Post by: Bluesman on August 11, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
When you say ti work with the grain, does this mean the grain runs parallel to the perimeter or up and down the ring from top to bottom. And can you identify the grain direction when sanding. I want to do my rings, and the top of my SS Performer. I understand how you did it, just don't want to go the wrong way only to have to fix it by starting over. Thanks
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 11, 2013, 06:10:49 PM
When you say ti work with the grain, does this mean the grain runs parallel to the perimeter or up and down the ring from top to bottom. And can you identify the grain direction when sanding. I want to do my rings, and the top of my SS Performer. I understand how you did it, just don't want to go the wrong way only to have to fix it by starting over. Thanks

Bluesman, by the grain I mean the way the lines are already going they are very light and fine but there go with them. They should be parallel to the perimeter. Now to get the mirror finish I would recommend using a buffing wheel setup on a bench grinder or something like that. As for the stainless top surface it will take more work to get those to a mirror finish as it is a harder metal.  As far as the aluminum ash ring and pot, when you polish them you need to remember is that they have an annealing on them that protect the metal from the elements and other things. So with that in mind you will either have to polish it again from time to time or find a way to protect it. I don't worry to much about mine as I live in the dry desert and will be keeping my grill in the garage.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: pbe gummi bear on August 11, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
I used to polish a lot of aluminum bike parts and yes, they do get hazy and oxidized over time but it still looks better than the standard finish. Getting it mirror shiny again is easy with a polishing compound and a rag. Since the ash catcher doesn't get handled much, the polished finish should last forever.
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: Bluesman on August 11, 2013, 07:15:33 PM
Thanks. Many years ago I had some SS polished to a mirror finish. The guy gave me two wheels and two sticks of compound. The sticks were about 1" or so square x 6" long, and a bit hard, one white and the other light green, One of the wheels was a soft cloth flap and the other a red fiber wheel like a scotch brite. I lost the instructions, but I think the green is more aggressive and goes with the the fiber wheel, the white is more for finish polishing and goes on the cloth flap wheel. Does this sound right?
Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 11, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
Thanks. Many years ago I had some SS polished to a mirror finish. The guy gave me two wheels and two sticks of compound. The sticks were about 1" or so square x 6" long, and a bit hard, one white and the other light green, One of the wheels was a soft cloth flap and the other a red fiber wheel like a scotch brite. I lost the instructions, but I think the green is more aggressive and goes with the the fiber wheel, the white is more for finish polishing and goes on the cloth flap wheel. Does this sound right?

The sticks are called rouge and are the compound you put on the cloth wheels. The scotch brite one is to be used by itself before the cloth wheels and compound. If the ring isn't that scratched up you should be able to use the scotch brite one first without sanding and the use the cloth one with a brown rouge and then finishing with the white and if wanted using  jewelers rouge to get a really high polish. There are different cloth wheels also some softer and some harder. Read alittle about it online and it will all make more sense. More than what I can write here in this space. As for the green stick(rouge) it is hard to say what it is for. Example is I have brown/ red that is for ferrous and non ferrous metals and is usually used as the first rouge in the polishing process, then I have white which is next to bring a mirror luster like shine then my brown jewelers rouge for a deep mirror smooth finish . The point is that manufacturers sometimes don't all use the same color for the same rouge of the same purpose.
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Post by: OGlenn on August 13, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Very cool!  I use buffing wheels to polish the straight razors I collect, but never considered polishing the aluminum ash ring... I like!
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Post by: zavod44 on August 13, 2013, 06:16:50 PM
Looks really great.  As someone who polishes aluminum for a living I can appreciate the effort.  One thing I would mention to any would be polishers.  Using a wheel to polish something takes a little bit of practice.  You can make things absolutely look like a mirror, but you can also destroy something in a split second, and hurt yourself in the process.  This is not to discourage..... just want to make sure you have the proper respect for a buffing wheel.  I have seen some pretty spectacular buffing wheel incidents....

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Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: AZ_MIKEY on August 18, 2013, 09:04:03 PM
Bump! Updating this a bit new pics. Polished the ash pan.

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So now the pan and ring are done getting closer to the finish line with this project.

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Title: Polished ash ring
Post by: Chasing_smoke on August 18, 2013, 09:13:25 PM
Great job, that's sick!


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Title: Re: Polished ash ring
Post by: Bman on August 18, 2013, 10:49:11 PM
Totally smokes my "polishing" job.  lol