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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: MartyG on May 31, 2013, 06:27:20 AM
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Thought a thread for everyone to dream up their own idea of the ultimate Weber Kettle would be fun. Here's mine:
26" Performer - Frame and table like the old SS, but with the kettle centered between two tables
Flip-up butcher block on both ends
Lid would hinge to the back and open 90 degrees - like the ones they use at the Weber Grill
Gas-assist - using a 20lb tank so I can swap it with a gasser if needed
Twin table-mounted high output chimney-lighters / side burners
2 storage bins - one for charcoal - one for smoking wood
Bigger version of the gourmet-system grill grate
Color - Black of course! Hey, it's MY dream!
So... what's in your head?
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Ummm, I'll take one of those as well, you can have the black Marty, I'll take whatever other color is available!
Maybe instead one flip up butcher block, there could also be an undermount secondary table that swings out and locks. It would be mounted flush under the existing table. Maybe one of those two storage bins could double as a cooler!
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Oh man make it purple or bone white and I'm so sold!!!
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Screw the black. Give me that nice blue.
-I like the larger side table, so I'm good with the kettle on the side and then making the table to the right a little longer.
-Don't need table top gas assist. The one in the kettle is good, but maybe need ones mounted 45* apart, or ones at opposite ends.
-I like your storage bin idea, but wood should be almost fresh anyway and only lasts a given period, so a much smaller bin would be fine. For the charcoal, it needs to hold a full bag of charcoal, not just a half bag, or a full bag dumped out. i want to be able to pull the bag out and dump what I need vs using my hands to scoop it out of the bin.
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This is a hard question for me to answer because I build everything I want. I could make the 26 Performer, but i'm just not a big performer fan. If it was up to me Weber would go back to the old 52 style lid and make a smoker attachment like the CB stacker. Oh, and go back to the three vents on the bottom. :)
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I would like a 22 with a tall lid like the WSM for beer chicks and turkeys
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This is a hard question for me to answer because I build everything I want. I could make the 26 Performer, but i'm just not a big performer fan. If it was up to me Weber would go back to the old 52 style lid and make a smoker attachment like the CB stacker. Oh, and go back to the three vents on the bottom. :)
Oh hell no. The three vents may work well for a smoker, but I've burned myself trying to adjust them. The new way with the lever IMHO is heads and shoulders better. Plus it is easier to see and you do it from one spot rather than getting on your knees and adjusting all around the kettle.
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This is a hard question for me to answer because I build everything I want. I could make the 26 Performer, but i'm just not a big performer fan. If it was up to me Weber would go back to the old 52 style lid and make a smoker attachment like the CB stacker. Oh, and go back to the three vents on the bottom. :)
Oh hell no. The three vents may work well for a smoker, but I've burned myself trying to adjust them. The new way with the lever IMHO is heads and shoulders better. Plus it is easier to see and you do it from one spot rather than getting on your knees and adjusting all around the kettle.
I have way more trouble doing stuff like this on a One Touch.......
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/OCT%209%20brisket%202012/OCT9brisket2012033.jpg)
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/1buckie/3-6-2013Beef039.jpg)
The daisy wheels (3 separate vents) have a definite place........way better slow smokers......
I turn the wheels with my charcoal tongs, not fingers.... 8)
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No need for gas assist with side burners. But I would probably stick with a single side table and some storage. What you describe sounds intriguing, but I would have to put a trailer hitch on it and tow it around the patio. Putting everything in one package makes it a bit inflexible. I'd rather have some separate pieces I could arrange as needed for any particular cook - sort of a modular configuration.
One thing I would add would be a half height shelf of some sort to hold a mini-WSM (or an 1880 should the rumors be true.)
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Now, back to the original question.....
So... what's in your head?
I put up a list of stuff the other day in response to someting Mr. Reilly asked about.....
It included the "Stealth Weber"...............
I've had this idea floating around for almost 6 years (actually longer, but it keeps morphing to a more complex form as I run across other strange items to add on ), but it will probably require some welding.....
In that lentgh of time I could have just taught myself to weld, but life happens & other people have offered welding help & then crapped out, so I may just learn to weld......
I can't actually tell you what's happening with this, as it's "Top Secret"......just that I do have the electronics packages all prepped, the hood partially complete, the lower frame partly hashed out, some of the metal cutting accomplished,the blower system ( actually it's a suction system) mapped & part way fixed up, the control panel part way set up & some work on the road cases........
Oh, and it will probably weigh in at 4 X the weight of a standard 22-1/2"............ 8) :o 8)
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OK Buckie, you're just teasing us now. I'm sure what ever ideas you have come up with will be as transformable as they are unconventional.
I have been reading some of your cooking tips and have been inspired. I am not a chef and really only attempted to cook a couple of things. But this weekend I will be attempting your brisket with the daisy chain charcoal ring.
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Brisket sounds like a good idea right about now!
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OK Buckie, you're just teasing us now. I'm sure what ever ideas you have come up with will be as transformable as they are unconventional.
I have been reading some of your cooking tips and have been inspired. I am not a chef and really only attempted to cook a couple of things. But this weekend I will be attempting your brisket with the daisy chain charcoal ring.
See if you can find one that's real flexible / pliable, I play with all of them at the store.....so what if ya get a few weird looks.....it's not their brisket.........
I've had the best result doing a whole one, at fairly low temps.....I start by trimming the fat down some so it's even across the length, cook 4~5 hours fat cap down, then stick it in a pan, fat cap up with some broth, up on a cookie rack to keep it from getting mushy in the liquid.....
Foil over to braize it some & watch for it to probe REAL easy at somewhere around 200 internal...........
Here's where either a 26-3/4 kettle or bending the corners up on a full size hotel pan will come into play......
It will be tough right up until the soft butter-like poke with a therm or a skewer.....
If you're going to monitor temp, aim for the thick part of the flat, kinda under where the point overlaps..............
Rest in foil for at least an hour.............
I separate point & flat ( they will almost fall apart from each other when done) & either slice both or cube the point into a pan for burnt ends............
It only seems tricky......just try to keep even temp, they don't like heat spikes........
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Oh boy.....Thanks for starting this Marty!!!!!
Now u got me thinking of really building one of those illusive 26" performer. I just need to find the time.....and maybe a little money, lol
Brent
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Saw these over at TVWBB a while back. I think it said it was a 26.5 kettle.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img16/888/26pre1.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img534/2808/26pre2.png)
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Wow I'd love to track one of those 26ers down.
I think the perfect one for me would be a red 26 SS performer with a larger table. The 26 would rest on the left and on the right would be a matching 22. In the middle of the table would have a lid that lifts to reveal two charcoal bins inside the lid would have another compartment to store wood. Of course a good sized tank to light both grills at the same time. Tool rack on each side if your dual grilling. Of course this isn't super portable but I don't move mine very often so it works for me. One can dream I suppose!
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I'd make mine a 26.75" version of the Imperial Sequoia, add the modern lid bale, make the wooden table longer, keep the kettle off to one side, and it would be a daisy wheel kettle....it would be outlaw red, I would add a charcoal bin like the Performer,....oh and I would bring back metal wheels with rubber treads.
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Yeah I remember seeing that 26er performer, wasn't it suppose to be released this year?
One of those in old school yellow would be my ultimate
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Gimee a redhead version!
Thought a thread for everyone to dream up their own idea of the ultimate Weber Kettle would be fun. Here's mine:
26" Performer - Frame and table like the old SS, but with the kettle centered between two tables
Flip-up butcher block on both ends
Lid would hinge to the back and open 90 degrees - like the ones they use at the Weber Grill
Gas-assist - using a 20lb tank so I can swap it with a gasser if needed
Twin table-mounted high output chimney-lighters / side burners
2 storage bins - one for charcoal - one for smoking wood
Bigger version of the gourmet-system grill grate
Color - Black of course! Hey, it's MY dream!
So... what's in your head?
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Sounds like somebody has Redhead Fever ! ;D
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I had to build my own ultimate Kettle!
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/3D9E5F05-C1AE-4A00-AEEA-9D9785163A6C-336-00000005DDDB8CBE.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/6EB5D916-EB49-468C-BEE9-2C4ED204273A-1163-000000D113166052.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/6C04132F-C96D-4095-B8D3-7549886F3595-1163-000000D11E9F6F7D.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/3CAFAB33-B640-4B00-8CEA-767231C5C9A7-1163-000000D1092A72A1.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/40A1688B-E1D3-4A7B-893B-FEDDE455B051-1163-000000D0F6AA2765.jpg)
Sorry about the crappy pictures, but it shows them in action.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/null-3.jpg)
And I have since added some hooks on the side to hold the lids.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/null.jpg)
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I had to build my own ultimate Kettle!
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/3D9E5F05-C1AE-4A00-AEEA-9D9785163A6C-336-00000005DDDB8CBE.jpg)
Welcome to the WKC.
Nice setup! Were you aware that the Sequoia has a lid holder like that or did you invent that yourself?
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You guys that really know how to work with wood make it look easy and elegant. Jocool, what an "entrance" to the forum! Yours deserves it's own thread.
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Thanks for the welcome guys. Addicted, it does have its own thread in the Aussie forum. Hank, I wasnt aware that I had copied something. Those hooks are readily available here in Australia.
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May I present to you, The Weber King SS Performer:
2 - 22.5" OTG kettles on a SS table. Mini fridge below for easy access to your favorite craft brew or marinading meat. 2 Utensils hanger locations so you don't need to worry about using your tongs from your raw chicken on asparagus that you are pulling off. 2 waterproof drawers to store charcoal or lump, just scoop it out into your chimney. Oh, don't forget the extra space when you flip up the side butcher block extensions. Not shown is the lid holder mechanism on the back side.
(http://i.imgur.com/28dMXSm.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/cOpxd2N.png)
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Hank, I wasnt aware that I had copied something. Those hooks are readily available here I Australia.
I wouldn't say copied if you came up with it on your own. Fyi this is what the hooks on the Sequoia look like:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NHGEJ6Yafjo/UYrtnKhi5pI/AAAAAAAAQvI/ySyxp12r3C4/s800/DSC_6538-PP.JPG)
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Tim that is awesome! Well thought out and full of awesome! I'd build my deck out to fit that setup.
"my kettle is more powerful it will do almost anything."
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Tim, I'll take mine with a narrower table (but with same/similar center area) and no side extensions, so that each bowl hangs off the side like factory Performers do. Although I like the idea of an outside fridge I'd skip that option here. Where do I sign up?
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Tim that is awesome! Well thought out and full of awesome! I'd build my deck out to fit that setup.
"my kettle is more powerful it will do almost anything."
Thanks, I have just the spot on my deck for it. I just would never the approval from the wife. Lol.
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Tim, I'll take mine with a narrower table (but with same/similar center area) and no side extensions, so that each bowl hangs off the side like factory Performers do. Although I like the idea of an outside fridge I'd skip that option here. Where do I sign up?
Lol. You wouldn't pay what I'd charge to make such a thing. :)
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Hypothetically speaking as an untrained, inexperienced, unqualified and nonsensical wannabe tinkerer here's idea "for somebody."
As I look over this and similar designs it seems to me the biggest roadblock is the bowl mounting/cutout(s) for the metal table. An enterprising person could supply a precut metal top and depending on the design the recipient could make a jigsaw-cut wood top below it to support the metal top. Ideally, a "replacement" Performer bowl in the preferred color or craigslist donor would be used instead of a donor OTS for example, so that "proper" mounting bolts could be used. Either that or a special mounting scheme for standard bowls would be designed and supplied also.
From there, a list of commonly found frame pieces/sizes, legs, wheels, pre-made drawers etc. could "just be bolted together."
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Addicted, the locating and fitting of the bowl is not a huge issue. Mine is just located with metal straps that I can bend and twist to adjust the height it sits at. I have drilled holes through the bowl for attaching. The pictures will explain. Incidentally, this is the first table I made with a single kettle. It utilised a metal frame clad in Merbau, whereas the newer double barreled version is fully built from timber.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/41609678-B185-41F4-8112-E3B6ED2A5639-8267-0000078148AEE72F.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/51AE5645-EDD3-4C2A-8AEC-F1A1B6B6E8D5-8267-0000077E1DDB7C42.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/30E66956-F184-43A6-B7E9-D5777D664DD8-8267-000007815E76013E.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/B4D0C749-A979-4A80-BFD1-BFFCB1BACD67-14893-00000D3B222E2F23.jpg)
And this is a hang-on table I made for my brother.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/267C3FEC-0BC8-4FFC-8478-0CC776F555C3-5895-0000048D2ECE925D.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/JOC00L/B903F481-CD15-406A-8C80-E77DA064647C-5895-0000048D26EF2400.jpg)
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Hey Joe your such a show off and we love it !!!!
All awesome builds by the way and what an entrance to WKC
Be sure to introduce yourself , look out guys and gals we have another crazy Aussie onboard
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Sign me up for one Tim, that there kettle setup is the ultimate
You need to send a few designs through to Weber, cause that beats the hell out the the new Performer models
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Very nice! You would be a good candidate to fab the first 26" performer. ;)
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The fridge is a stretch but the rest of the stuff I threw on my design is easily doable. If I didn't already have a Performer I'd consider putting something like this together. Otherwise I don't think I could convince my wife.
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Jocool that's some serious chops there. Thanks for the insider's view.