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Title: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jcnaz on March 22, 2017, 04:31:37 PM
http://www.patioworldonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Weber-Original-Kettle-Limited.jpg

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cumminfourya on March 22, 2017, 04:35:56 PM
Wow!!! I want one. Hope they are available for order at a store here


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mhiszem on March 22, 2017, 04:37:18 PM
That is sweet looking. I love the red and black. Wonder what kind of a premium they will charge for that.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Neil_VT00 on March 22, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
Very interesting... Lots of Photoshop going on in the picture. Who is calling to get the details?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Scott Zee on March 22, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
it's not April 1st yet...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on March 22, 2017, 04:53:20 PM
Now that is a grill I have to have!!!!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 22, 2017, 05:12:05 PM
Nice find! Is this Crimson? It would be really exciting if it was offered in bright red. If this is not a joke, more than likely Crimson with MT hardware. Subscribe to this thread.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 22, 2017, 05:58:08 PM
That can't be Crimson. That's red.  If that turns out to be Crimson I'll be pissed.  I want that grill!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 22, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
Check this "Promo" grill they are selling in Europe... Guess they are doing some limited editions everywhere.. I like the foot.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JDann24 on March 22, 2017, 06:10:44 PM
it's not April 1st yet...

You beat me to it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 22, 2017, 07:09:41 PM
If that's bright red, I'm in!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on March 22, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
that's sexy
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on March 22, 2017, 08:15:06 PM
if it's a patio world exclusive it would be a must have if it turned out being a logoed!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 22, 2017, 09:18:00 PM
I hope it isn't logo'd
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on March 22, 2017, 09:45:13 PM
I hope it isn't logo'd
party pooper! lol its more than likely not. probably going to be like the uline color line
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on March 22, 2017, 09:48:17 PM
I'd buy one and leave it in the box unopened.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 22, 2017, 10:01:14 PM
Hell, I don't mind logo's, Some of my SJ's are logo'd. I'd just like to see an option here.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 22, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
I'd buy one and leave it in the box unopened.
Buy 2. Leave one unopened & use the other.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 23, 2017, 12:53:08 AM
Would really like that!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 01:12:23 AM
http://www.patioworldonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Weber-Original-Kettle-Limited.jpg

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This.
I'd buy one and leave it in the box unopened.
Buy 2. Leave one unopened & use the other.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 01:22:02 AM
Holy crap I just assumed this was in Europe because we never get cool stuff here in the US! This is in California!

I love the all red but even if it had a logo and it was with the guy in the top right if the flyer, I think that would be cool too!

Christ please tell me this isn't a hoax!

Take my moneyyyyyyy

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 03:08:35 AM
Yes, it is legit.  Limited Edition in late 2017.  Suppose to be fire engine red (not crimson).  Topper will be on the lid "somewhere".
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 03:23:38 AM
Sorry, Yes...  Still to be determined ("couple options on the table").

I hope it isn't logo'd
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 23, 2017, 03:24:22 AM
Cool, I'm in....

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on March 23, 2017, 03:28:26 AM
Darn it man time to sell some more of the wife's jewelry LOL
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 03:31:06 AM
wont be a "bank breaker".  Think > 22" OTG <26". But right now in LIMITED quantity (that may change...)

Darn it man time to sell some more of the wife's jewelry LOL
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 23, 2017, 04:03:16 AM
well, if i can get past the taco handle and the fugly wheels....yeah, i guess i'm in.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 23, 2017, 04:25:20 AM
I'd buy one and leave it in the box unopened.
Buy 2. Leave one unopened & use the other.

Yes! Think how psyched the dude suffering from Weberitis will be when he finds his NIB grail at a yard sale for $30 in 2069!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 04:41:30 AM
wont be a "bank breaker".  Think > 22" OTG <26". But right now in LIMITED quantity (that may change...)

Darn it man time to sell some more of the wife's jewelry LOL

I am guessing more $ than OKP at $150 but less than MT at $200 usd. Good chance, as a LE OKP, it might not come with MT legs, triangle, and wheels or even the lid bale assy. as shown. Why when they can throw in gbs cooking grate and call it a LE MT and charge $200 or more.  Whatever the case, as a LE OKP..... I would say $150 to $170 and as a LE MT $200 to $225 range.

I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mr.CPHo on March 23, 2017, 05:05:53 AM
Meh. Sorry to dissent, but it looks just "ok" to me and if there really is a logo added then no way would I buy one. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on March 23, 2017, 05:09:32 AM
Nice to have a new red but I'll stick with my old one.

I think they are missing the boat. Why not offer the ots in a few colors and get them to the masses?  I would think kettles in color would sell very well. Or they could produce one color a year and change that color each year to keep costs down.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 05:23:44 AM
Meh. Sorry to dissent, but it looks just "ok" to me and if there really is a logo added then no way would I buy one. 


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That picture is not a true representation of the real thing. If it is really a fire engine bright red.... it will look lot better.  Wheels are photoshopped too. Will have to wait till we see the real pics.

No matter how the final version looks and priced....just the fact that bright red is being offered this year is an exciting news.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 05:27:24 AM
Currently, not one of the options...

"I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow."



wont be a "bank breaker".  Think > 22" OTG <26". But right now in LIMITED quantity (that may change...)

Darn it man time to sell some more of the wife's jewelry LOL

I am guessing more $ than OKP at $150 but less than MT at $200 usd. Good chance, as a LE OKP, it might not come with MT legs, triangle, and wheels or even the lid bale assy. as shown. Why when they can throw in gbs cooking grate and call it a LE MT and charge $200 or more.  Whatever the case, as a LE OKP..... I would say $150 to $170 and as a LE MT $200 to $225 range.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: tibas92017 on March 23, 2017, 05:29:29 AM
Looks very similar in design to my Weber Mastertouch 22" Grill minus the Gourmet and Warmer Grates which costs around $200 in the USA.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 05:40:45 AM
I am buying one. Without question. I will sell one or two of my Performers to justify the purchase

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 05:53:33 AM
I want it. I want it yesterday.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on March 23, 2017, 06:18:35 AM
well, if i can get past the taco handle and the fugly wheels....yeah, i guess i'm in.  ::) ::) ::)
x2 hate bolt in handles.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MaxBobcat on March 23, 2017, 06:26:19 AM
I haven't bought a new grill in about 2 years.  This is enough to get me out of retirement.  Drool....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 06:34:45 AM
Currently, not one of the options...

"I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow."

So you're saying it's going to have the logo printed on the lid in some fashion?  Forgive me if I should know this, but is this "Topper" cartoon guy a part a Weber marketing from the past?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 06:36:29 AM
I'm soooo in when this comes available. May need to say goodbye to one or two to make room for it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 06:38:05 AM
Currently, not one of the options...

"I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow."

So you're saying it's going to have the logo printed on the lid in some fashion?  Forgive me if I should know this, but is this "Topper" cartoon guy a part a Weber marketing from the past?


Yes! Topper was Weber Bros Metal Works original grilling mascot through the 1950s. I'd be honored if he's going to be featured on the lid of this beautiful new red.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 06:42:30 AM
At the end of the day, who gives a s#!? about tacos or bolt on handles. It's gonna be FRIGGIN BRIGHT RED! For the first time in 18 years. A new kettle from Weber in Red!! Only question I have is how did they swing the environmental aspects of the red porcelain? Maybe worked out a temporary deal with a disposal contractor? Who knows! But I'm pumped!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 06:44:18 AM
Yes, it is legit.  Limited Edition in late 2017.  Suppose to be fire engine red (not crimson).  Topper will be on the lid "somewhere".

I am not into logo kettles, but even if it came with a Topper logo on the lid...it will be still a very desirable new kettle for 2017. Actually, it will be really cool to have that logo on the lid.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 23, 2017, 06:49:01 AM
Any chance this is a test to see how the red does and Weber will follow with a full release the following season? Pending results. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 06:52:23 AM
One of the options on the table - think of H. Simpson logo placement....

Currently, not one of the options...

"I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow."

So you're saying it's going to have the logo printed on the lid in some fashion?  Forgive me if I should know this, but is this "Topper" cartoon guy a part a Weber marketing from the past?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 06:57:52 AM
One of the options on the table - think of H. Simpson logo placement....

Currently, not one of the options...

"I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow."

So you're saying it's going to have the logo printed on the lid in some fashion?  Forgive me if I should know this, but is this "Topper" cartoon guy a part a Weber marketing from the past?


So if I'm reading everything correctly, this will be available later this year? And if it's Topper as the logo, I'm more than in! Topper is Weber history just as much as the iconic red kettle is. So I have zero issues with the logo.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 07:01:48 AM
At the end of the day, who gives a s#!? about tacos or bolt on handles. It's gonna be FRIGGIN BRIGHT RED! For the first time in 18 years. A new kettle from Weber in Red!! Only question I have is how did they swing the environmental aspects of the red porcelain? Maybe worked out a temporary deal with a disposal contractor? Who knows! But I'm pumped!

I had the same question. I am thinking they have come up with more environment friendly red porcelain composition similar to all auto manufacture going to a water base paint.  I hope not, but very possible the red porcelain will not look anywhere near the bright Red of past. Maybe thin finish like on a Slate or even not really bright in color. Lets hope not.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 07:04:58 AM
At the end of the day, who gives a s#!? about tacos or bolt on handles. It's gonna be FRIGGIN BRIGHT RED! For the first time in 18 years. A new kettle from Weber in Red!! Only question I have is how did they swing the environmental aspects of the red porcelain? Maybe worked out a temporary deal with a disposal contractor? Who knows! But I'm pumped!

I had the same question. I am thinking they have come up with more environment friendly red porcelain composition similar to all auto manufacture going to a water base paint.  I hope not, but very possible the red porcelain will not look anywhere near the bright Red of past. Maybe thin finish like on a Slate or even not really bright in color. Lets hope not.

I do anticipate a matte finish if recent history is an indicator. I won't be surprised if it is. I also anticipate green and black to go matte finish in the coming years but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 07:12:30 AM
Currently, not one of the options...

"I am also guessing that if logoed will be on the handle or on the taco shell somehow."

So you're saying it's going to have the logo printed on the lid in some fashion?  Forgive me if I should know this, but is this "Topper" cartoon guy a part a Weber marketing from the past?


Yes! Topper was Weber Bros Metal Works original grilling mascot through the 1950s. I'd be honored if he's going to be featured on the lid of this beautiful new red.

Wow.  That's really cool then .. I tried Googling it before I asked the question, but didn't know what Topper was ... Once you said "mascot", that did the trick.  Found him quickly.. I think it would be great to have a red head with him on the lid.

(http://www.weber.com/images/singles/weber_story/weber-story-50s-topper.png)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 07:14:32 AM
Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 07:16:30 AM

Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

I like that too! But I'm game for either option.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 07:20:08 AM
At the end of the day, who gives a s#!? about tacos or bolt on handles. It's gonna be FRIGGIN BRIGHT RED! For the first time in 18 years. A new kettle from Weber in Red!! Only question I have is how did they swing the environmental aspects of the red porcelain? Maybe worked out a temporary deal with a disposal contractor? Who knows! But I'm pumped!

I had the same question. I am thinking they have come up with more environment friendly red porcelain composition similar to all auto manufacture going to a water base paint.  I hope not, but very possible the red porcelain will not look anywhere near the bright Red of past. Maybe thin finish like on a Slate or even not really bright in color. Lets hope not.

I still question this .. There are red grills on the market being sold today.  Albeit they are most surely all made in China where we know environmental regulations are not like here.  Hopefully that isn't the case with these LE grills ....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 07:20:17 AM
True bright red for now...not matte
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 07:22:04 AM
Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

You mean the thermometer bezel?

In your opinion, does it pay to track down a pre-order now, ie "before May 12" or is it best to wait?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 07:31:27 AM
Pre-orders are now because it is not being made here (Far East). Made there because of environmental issues for the bright red finish.  I would pre-order..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 07:33:15 AM
Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

You mean the thermometer bezel?

In your opinion, does it pay to track down a pre-order now, ie "before May 12" or is it best to wait?
Where did you see the option to pre-order? I inquired about it using the online form on their website but haven't heard back

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 07:33:15 AM
Yes, thermo bezel.

Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

You mean the thermometer bezel?

In your opinion, does it pay to track down a pre-order now, ie "before May 12" or is it best to wait?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 07:38:09 AM
Pre-orders are now because it is not being made here (Far East). Made there because of environmental issues for the bright red finish.  I would pre-order..
Oh. So it is being made over seas. Makes sense.  But not optimal. :(
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 07:38:54 AM
Yes, thermo bezel.

Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

You mean the thermometer bezel?

In your opinion, does it pay to track down a pre-order now, ie "before May 12" or is it best to wait?
Nice.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 07:40:35 AM
Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

You mean the thermometer bezel?

In your opinion, does it pay to track down a pre-order now, ie "before May 12" or is it best to wait?
Where did you see the option to pre-order? I inquired about it using the online form on their website but haven't heard back

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Just what was posted in the ad.  Pre order by May 12 with their phone #.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 07:41:39 AM
Pre-orders are now because it is not being made here (Far East). Made there because of environmental issues for the bright red finish.  I would pre-order..

How do we pre-order?  I do not care where they put the topper logo, but is it confirmed about the bright red finish and looking exactly like shown.   What is the estimated cost including the shipping from the far east country.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 07:57:49 AM
Option 2 -less prominent Topper on the bezel.  Most of the "Bobs" like this option best.  available early Q4....

You mean the thermometer bezel?

In your opinion, does it pay to track down a pre-order now, ie "before May 12" or is it best to wait?
Where did you see the option to pre-order? I inquired about it using the online form on their website but haven't heard back

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Just what was posted in the ad.  Pre order by May 12 with their phone #.
No answer, killing me!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 23, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
That guy definitely needs some wood handles! 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on March 23, 2017, 08:39:59 AM

Just talked to Brian Romain at Patio World.  These kettles are expected to be available in November of this year.  They do not have pricing as of yet as Weber just released this on Monday.  Patio World is taking the names and contact information right now as pre-order pricing is not available yet.  If you are interested in pre-ordering when available here is the person to contact at Patio World. Wayne is a WKC member and is Brian's son.

Wayne Romain  951-354-0500
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jaynik on March 23, 2017, 08:50:08 AM
Do we know whether this is an exclusive for this particular store, or if this is something Weber is doing for Weber dealers across the Country?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 09:01:23 AM
No, most of the big box stores (Ace, Home Depot, Lowes) are now ordering from Weber.  However, I don't believe they are are accepting orders from the public.  The suggested retail price of the grill is $199.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 23, 2017, 09:07:00 AM
It's an exclusive. According to Brian at the store.

WooHoo!!!! Just got my name on the list!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 23, 2017, 09:14:30 AM
My name is on the list. Can. Not. Wait. And for the record I like the logo! She said there was more information expected in the next couple of days

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on March 23, 2017, 10:03:51 AM
what's with the red color not being environmentally friendly?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on March 23, 2017, 10:05:37 AM
I would certainly love to have one of those grills..  I am going to make a phone call for sure.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on March 23, 2017, 10:19:09 AM
I would definitely have to score an absurd amount of brownie points with the wife to get this. the only reason she let's me flip is cuz it's  relatively low spending $200..... I'd have to be a very good boy ha ha
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 23, 2017, 10:40:53 AM
what's with the red color not being environmentally friendly?
It's because of the cadmium selenide used in the bright red enamel. It's considered highly toxic.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on March 23, 2017, 11:07:00 AM
what's with the red color not being environmentally friendly?
It's because of the cadmium selenide used in the bright red enamel. It's considered highly toxic.

LOL.  I thought it was because red attracts hummingbirds and red webers were considered hummingbird pecker wreckers!!!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 11:18:35 AM
My name is on the list. Can. Not. Wait. And for the record I like the logo! She said there was more information expected in the next couple of days

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Just called an spoke with Brian and put my name on the list!  Shipping is available at a cost, of course.  He said since it's limited, he doesn't expect t to be sold at the box stores, only select dealers in the system.  Either way I'm good and am looking forward to getting more details.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bear on March 23, 2017, 11:27:25 AM
Hopefully this behavior is replicated in the future, limited release of retired colors #yellow
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 23, 2017, 12:06:37 PM
Hopefully I can get on the list, won't be home for 2 hrs.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Davescprktl on March 23, 2017, 12:37:54 PM
This is exciting!  Still can't belive it's true.  Would love to get one and sell my crimson.  All I can think of is April fools day is coming lol! 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: indy82z on March 23, 2017, 01:01:57 PM
Yep, called and was put on the list too..cant  wait to add this to the collection..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JordanW on March 23, 2017, 01:03:08 PM
#60 on the list. Super nice helpful guy. Hope his shop gets the sales!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on March 23, 2017, 01:13:28 PM
#60 on the list. Super nice helpful guy. Hope his shop gets the sales!


Holy Crap!  When I talked to him, I was the fourth person to have called and be put on "The List".   I told him he might be receiving a few more calls as I as going to post his contact information.  Guess it's working out for them.   (lol)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 01:23:34 PM
#60 on the list. Super nice helpful guy. Hope his shop gets the sales!


Holy Crap!  When I talked to him, I was the fourth person to have called and be put on "The List".   I told him he might be receiving a few more calls as I as going to post his contact information.  Guess it's working out for them.   (lol)
Wow.  I called about 2 hrs ago and you called about 2 hrs before me. I wonder what number I am? Maybe near 30ish? I really hope he can get all the orders.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 23, 2017, 01:27:07 PM
Wayne had left for the day but the lady that answered put me on the list. Don't know what number I am but I'm on it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 01:41:38 PM
Over on another site where this was posted the OP took down the link to this ad.  Apparently Patio World was told they jumped the gun on releasing this and they asked for the link to be removed.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 23, 2017, 02:26:02 PM
At the end of the day, who gives a s#!? about tacos or bolt on handles. It's gonna be FRIGGIN BRIGHT RED! For the first time in 18 years. A new kettle from Weber in Red!! Only question I have is how did they swing the environmental aspects of the red porcelain? Maybe worked out a temporary deal with a disposal contractor? Who knows! But I'm pumped!


Well....I do. How cool would it really be if they made it with a welded lid handle made of wood engraved with Topper himself on it?!!!  ;D

I have the same questions re: how red is possible again.


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 23, 2017, 02:48:31 PM
Same, just chatted with the lady aswell, hopefully good results.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 02:57:11 PM
I will wait till the Offical Weber release of the news. We don't have anything concrete yet. We have not even seen an real official pic of the kettle. This seem like a big April fools joke to me. When did Weber ever build products off shore and brought them back to North America and sold them as made in China or India or other places Weber products.  I do hope this is legit as I do want to sign up to get one....but not as of yet.   I will sign up on April 2nd.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 23, 2017, 03:04:04 PM
I called earlier and the guy I spoke to was blown away at how many calls they received on it.  I guess their phones have been ringing all day. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 23, 2017, 03:08:44 PM
I will wait till the Offical Weber release of the news. We don't have anything concrete yet. We have not even seen an real official pic of the kettle. This seem like a big April fools joke to me. When did Weber ever build products off shore and brought them back to North America and sold them as made in China or India or other places Weber products.  I do hope this is legit as I do want to sign up to get one....but not as of yet.
These calls  are just to gauge interest.  They are not official pre orders.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 23, 2017, 03:21:01 PM
Remember the $5 Westerner anyone?

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/found-5-00-westerner/

 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 23, 2017, 03:27:15 PM
Oh, its 100% legit (grill, where it is being made, etc.). The "Bobs" are taking pre orders from the retailers now. Yes, he was prob gauging interest to determine how many to order.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
At the end of the day, who gives a s#!? about tacos or bolt on handles. It's gonna be FRIGGIN BRIGHT RED! For the first time in 18 years. A new kettle from Weber in Red!! Only question I have is how did they swing the environmental aspects of the red porcelain? Maybe worked out a temporary deal with a disposal contractor? Who knows! But I'm pumped!


Well....I do. How cool would it really be if they made it with a welded lid handle made of wood engraved with Topper himself on it?!!!  ;D

I have the same questions re: how red is possible again.
Because it's made in China where pollution and toxic waste is still ok. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 23, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd rather have a black OTG made in the USA with a welded on handle than this. Maybe I'd change if I saw it in person.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 03:46:39 PM


This seem like a big April fools joke to me. When did Weber ever build products off shore and brought them back to North America and sold them as made in China or India or other places Weber products.

Don't they do this exact thing with Spirit and new Genesis II gassers?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 03:51:40 PM
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd rather have a black OTG made in the USA with a welded on handle than this. Maybe I'd change if I saw it in person.


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I'm for one pretty shocked they're doing this.  Are they going to be producing black bowls here in the USA and sending them over to China for the red enamel, then back to the USA for "assembly" (packaging)?

Or, is kettle stamping and production being set up in China and this is the beginning of the end of kettle production here in the USA?  So much to read into and speculate with this being released. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 23, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
I think you're on to something. People will buy this just because it's red. If the manufacturing is in China like the low end Genesis now then this is a good pilot. They will get them in the hands of real kettle heads using and abusing them. They can track the quality and warranty replacements. If it goes well then push it all east. Just my own speculation but seems logical.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 23, 2017, 04:19:33 PM


This seem like a big April fools joke to me. When did Weber ever build products off shore and brought them back to North America and sold them as made in China or India or other places Weber products.

Don't they do this exact thing with Spirit and new Genesis II gassers?

Oh yeah, You are right! I forgot about the new gasser lineups. They actually look pretty good in person.  Do they offer Red hood gasser, not a Crimson ? If they do already....it will be the same red.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 23, 2017, 04:20:35 PM


This seem like a big April fools joke to me. When did Weber ever build products off shore and brought them back to North America and sold them as made in China or India or other places Weber products.

Don't they do this exact thing with Spirit and new Genesis II gassers?

Oh yeah, You are right! I forgot about the new gasser lineups. They actually look pretty good in person.  Do they offer Red hood gasser, not a Crimson ? If they do already....it will be the same red.
Nope. No red.  Yet......
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Uncle Al on March 23, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
well, if i can get past the taco handle and the fugly wheels....yeah, i guess i'm in.  ::) ::) ::)

I'm thinking a batch of red acrylic whitewalls might be in order here. I really like this grill!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 23, 2017, 09:44:12 PM
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd rather have a black OTG made in the USA with a welded on handle than this. Maybe I'd change if I saw it in person.


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I'm for one pretty shocked they're doing this.  Are they going to be producing black bowls here in the USA and sending them over to China for the red enamel, then back to the USA for "assembly" (packaging)?

Or, is kettle stamping and production being set up in China and this is the beginning of the end of kettle production here in the USA?  So much to read into and speculate with this being released.

What has been released about this kettle process and the overseas production?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lemans on March 24, 2017, 02:54:43 AM
I contacted the company and they sent me an e mail and said
As soon as the have more info they will contact me. We will see.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 24, 2017, 05:30:08 AM
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd rather have a black OTG made in the USA with a welded on handle than this. Maybe I'd change if I saw it in person.


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I'm for one pretty shocked they're doing this.  Are they going to be producing black bowls here in the USA and sending them over to China for the red enamel, then back to the USA for "assembly" (packaging)?

Or, is kettle stamping and production being set up in China and this is the beginning of the end of kettle production here in the USA?  So much to read into and speculate with this being released.

What has been released about this kettle process and the overseas production?

Nothing official.  Just what Harris has said about it being made in the far east.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 24, 2017, 05:50:02 AM
It is very exciting the thought of a red, but we all know how much different things look in Webers pictures than in person.  Let's just hope it is a true red and maybe we will be able to see an actual picture of one soon. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 24, 2017, 06:26:17 AM
I called yesterday to get on the list, but I'm going to wait until we learn the details of manufacture before making a decision. I probably won't support the China Syndrome.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 24, 2017, 06:39:31 AM
Red? Chinese? Red Chinese in the States? What would that man say?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 24, 2017, 09:02:34 AM
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd rather have a black OTG made in the USA with a welded on handle than this. Maybe I'd change if I saw it in person.


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I'm for one pretty shocked they're doing this.  Are they going to be producing black bowls here in the USA and sending them over to China for the red enamel, then back to the USA for "assembly" (packaging)?

Or, is kettle stamping and production being set up in China and this is the beginning of the end of kettle production here in the USA?  So much to read into and speculate with this being released.

What has been released about this kettle process and the overseas production?

Nothing official.  Just what Harris has said about it being made in the far east.

Ahh, OK. Harris certainly has the most connections, but at this point we're getting 3rd or 4th party information, and we're getting a 2nd hand interpretation of it.
I'm not trying to discredit harris or offend by any means, harris is a friend and has done countless good things for the WKC.
Information like this is very easy to misconstrue and turn vicious, I think we should be a little more certain and not speak as if it's actual fact.
Again, totally not trying to discredit harris or "the bobs"...


It is very exciting the thought of a red, but we all know how much different things look in Webers pictures than in person.  Let's just hope it is a true red and maybe we will be able to see an actual picture of one soon.

Plus this one is clearly photoshopped. :\

I called yesterday to get on the list, but I'm going to wait until we learn the details of manufacture before making a decision. I probably won't support the China Syndrome.

That's how I feel too.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jon on March 24, 2017, 09:58:32 AM
All of this just convinced me (well, with my wife encouraging me to buy myself a birthday present) that the right path was to call Robert at dicksonbbq.com. So I did that.

Do I want a Far East red? They aren't out until almost Christmas - so maybe something can happen.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on March 24, 2017, 10:31:22 AM
You guys need to pump the brakes a little. Your scaring the potential new members away with this unprecedented excitement for a grill.  [emoji12][emoji23][emoji23]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 24, 2017, 10:40:12 AM
Well I for one will not have a Chinese made Kettle.....and I am a flippin' Canadian!!!!

I do have something most of us on this board do not though:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2mply0j.jpg)

Adding Kettles at this point means either making room or moving a existing Kettle. For a Glen Blue, Westener, Green MBH, or True Grey.....yes. But for this? Come on. Really?

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 24, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
@MrHoss I totally agree with you. Your red lineup is very nice!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 24, 2017, 11:06:53 AM
 I see room in front of the 26'er  :) 8)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on March 24, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
@MrHoss you need a red smokey j and a red ga and a red 18" oh and a red ranch and your set!!  but your lineup is beautiful
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 24, 2017, 11:41:46 AM
One that I like.  It is an old pic.  The "Red Caravan" has grown in quantity and variety....

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/Redline3_zps5d231dda.jpg) (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/slieberman92/media/Redline3_zps5d231dda.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Hogsy on March 24, 2017, 11:45:51 AM
It's not fair! You Yanks get all the cool colours 🙄😢
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 24, 2017, 11:49:15 AM
@MrHoss, great lineup,will have to drive down someday have a look!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 24, 2017, 12:04:28 PM
Can we keep this one on topic?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 24, 2017, 12:44:37 PM
@harris92 ........... when I posted my shot I KNEW you were gonna follow. I love that flippin' line.

The second from left in mine is from your collection and most likely in your shot.

Sorry Troy.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 24, 2017, 12:53:23 PM
Well I for one will not have a Chinese made Kettle.....and I am a flippin' Canadian!!!!

I do have something most of us on this board do not though:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2mply0j.jpg)

Adding Kettles at this point means either making room or moving a existing Kettle. For a Glen Blue, Westener, Green MBH, or True Grey.....yes. But for this? Come on. Really?

Doesn't everyone have at least 5 redheads ?   ;D ;D ;D  Nice line up by the way MrHoss. and harris92.  You are correct, not too many members with 2 redhead mbh and 26er.

I also do not like the idea of owning made in China kettle but here is why I may over look that fact if I can get a modern bright red weber kettle.  I certainly don't lack Redheads as I have Red gen1 MT, SSP, 3 wheeler Bar-B-Kettle, Samson MBH, Crimson OTP, and SJP.  So, why do I want this? Well! This will go nicely with my USA made gen2 MT line up. How about this Red turned into MT along side my Spring Green, Ivory, Smoke, and Copper MT's I already have.

I am sure Weber will have a strict quality control no matter where they are made with full Weber warranty to back them up. If the price is right... I have a feeling bigger demand for these kettles than the USA made Canadian Special Ed. MT for sure.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 24, 2017, 01:53:12 PM
It seems a little strange that they are releasing these in November.  You would think they would have had them ready for Spring.  Especially since they are selling them through a patio furniture store.  I guess they are going for the Holiday season and hoping they sell as gifts. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: AZogas on March 24, 2017, 07:21:44 PM
It would be sweet if weber could make a bright red promotional grill for WKC.......I'm sure someone has already asked

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 24, 2017, 08:58:18 PM
It seems a little strange that they are releasing these in November.  You would think they would have had them ready for Spring.  Especially since they are selling them through a patio furniture store.  I guess they are going for the Holiday season and hoping they sell as gifts.



Maybe something called Christmas?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 24, 2017, 09:04:27 PM
Well I for one will not have a Chinese made Kettle.....and I am a flippin' Canadian!!!!

I do have something most of us on this board do not though:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2mply0j.jpg)

Adding Kettles at this point means either making room or moving a existing Kettle. For a Glen Blue, Westener, Green MBH, or True Grey.....yes. But for this? Come on. Really?



Are you typing this message from an American made computer?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 24, 2017, 09:18:41 PM
Nice to have a new red but I'll stick with my old one.

I think they are missing the boat. Why not offer the ots in a few colors and get them to the masses?  I would think kettles in color would sell very well. Or they could produce one color a year and change that color each year to keep costs down.

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Just went on Weber's web site your in luck, the produce not one but three colors, not just black, but green and copper......your lucky day.  Here's alink, you can see the copper.  I also saw a crimson today at Ace, not sure if they are still being produced, but you could prob find one pretty easy......

http://www.weber.com/grills/series/original-kettle
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 24, 2017, 09:21:31 PM
Oh and I'll be doing a special set of handles for this.  they will have topper for sure.......And I will buy this and cook the shit out of it
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 24, 2017, 11:12:26 PM
That's gonna be great.  I hope you will sell them. 

The tiger maple handle I bought from you on eBay should be delivered tomorrow.  Really looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on March 25, 2017, 05:34:04 AM
At first I wasn't crazy about the look, but the idea of the Topper logo somehow makes it much more appealing. And I don't usually go for logo grills...
But I think with Topper, some of Brian's handles, and a silver ash bucket (instead of the black) it'd be a bad ass grill!
Oh, and also matching wood lid bale rollers. I guess I'd want to get rid of almost all the black. And a set of the older style wheels...
In the end for me though it'll come down to price


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on March 25, 2017, 05:56:59 AM
First off, when this kettle is finally released, I will be in line to get one.  How long have we all been waiting for a true red to become available again?  AND with the iconic logo on it? Yes, right damn now I'll order it. 
For those concerned about it having Chinese "finger prints" on it, I say don't assume anything. You don't know what Weber has been up to with color creations lately.  BTW...we all own a lot more Chinese stuff than we probably realize.
If you're still bothered by any of this...step aside.  There will be plenty of suitors to happily take your place in line.
I personally applaud Weber in their efforts to bring the true red back.  I'm positive there's a lot that has gone on behind the scenes to make this happen...more than all of us probably realize. 
Haters will always hate.  Let's have at this grill!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on March 25, 2017, 06:01:30 AM
Good points Jeff!
Also, buy it for nothing else to encourage Weber to start making red a constant color in the product line.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 25, 2017, 06:02:47 AM
I'd still have to see it in person however you're right. It's really cool that they are doing this. Hope it's the start of the colors of old.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 25, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
Oh and I'll be doing a special set of handles for this.  they will have topper for sure.......And I will buy this and cook the shit out of it
As soon as you make them, I'll take 2.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 25, 2017, 09:52:02 AM
I want to go home and start working on the artwork today

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 25, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
Cadmium pushed it"offshore"....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 25, 2017, 12:31:49 PM
So, @harris92 , do you know if they're just sending the bowls & lids offshore to enamel? or, are the complete grills going to be made offshore?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 25, 2017, 12:34:47 PM
I think I know where you are going here Darko. The steel you make for the kettle is quality. What will the Chinese steel be like?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 25, 2017, 01:21:32 PM
I think I know where you are going here Darko. The steel you make for the kettle is quality. What will the Chinese steel be like?


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Thing is; right now we don't know what exactly is being done offshore. Maybe it's just the red enamel being applied. Maybe more. We just don't know. 

As some state they want "made in the USA"... What exactly does that mean?  The bowls and lids are "formed" in the US from Canadian steel. The hinged grill grates are made in Taiwan, the regular grates & the charcoal rails are made in China. I don't know where the aluminum tubing for the legs comes from. There are many questions.

One question I would ask those that are decided not to buy the grill, because all of it is not made in the US.  How many of you have handles from Brian made of exotic wood that is not of American origin?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 25, 2017, 02:01:28 PM
My statement earlier about the US manufacturing is that I'd prefer to buy US made products. Fact is it's hard to do these days. Honestly my biggest gripe is the taco handle. Makes the new red ugly.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Dtrouty on March 25, 2017, 04:11:25 PM
Here's an update for y'all who didn't do the email thing.

From Patio World
Hello All,

To say there has been extreme interest in the new kettle coming out is an understatement.  I thank you all for your interest, patience, and understanding.

As I understand, the availability of the grill will be nationwide.  BUT, it will be up to the local Weber dealer to purchase the kettle or not before the May deadline.  As much as I would love to sell the kettle to everyone across the nation, I feel it would be unfair for me to not have your local Weber dealer have the opportunity to sell the grill themselves.  That being said, if your local Weber dealer will not be offering/carrying this grill, I can ship to you with added shipping charges.

For people who are interested in picking up at one of our store locations in southern California (Riverside or Temecula), the price of the grill will be $199.00 + tax AND plus shipping/handling to get it from the factory to our stores here in southern California.  The more people who order this grill, the less the shipping expense as it can be split among the various customers.

For people who wish to have the grill shipped from our store in southern California to their specific location in the United States, the above still applies PLUS the shipping to get to your location.  This may be very costly, that is why I recommend for you to see if you can purchase at your local Weber dealer.  If not, I will be more than happy to ship it to you from our store in southern California.
 
To order, I need full payment for the grill itself ($199.00 + tax) BEFORE MAY 12, 2017. The shipping/handling charges will be figured and charged once I receive the grills in hand and you pick them up at one of our store locations or before we ship them to your location.  No Cancellations and No Refunds will be accepted.  This is a special order item.  Shipment by Weber is expected to be sometime in November of 2017.
 
I plan on sending my order into Weber by 11:00AM on May 12, 2017 Pacific Standard Time.  So I recommend all of your orders to be in as soon as possible.
 
We are a small family business run by myself, my father, mother, and sister.  We do this all ourselves, so any questions or concerns will be handled by me, Wayne, and may take a little time to get back to you.  We have been in business for almost 40 years and we care for all of our customers as if they were family.(see: http://www.patioworldonline.com/about-us/ ).
 
Thank you again everyone for your interest.  I too am a Weber fanatic (18" redhead teak handles, 22 avocado, 22 brownie, 2 - 18" WSM, and a 1980s smokey joe).
 
Please let me know if you have any further questions.

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Thank you,
Wayne Romain
Patio World
951-354-0500
www.PatioWorldOnline.com



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 25, 2017, 04:16:42 PM
That is very awesome of Wayne. Just for fun I'll see if my local garden center is planning on ordering these.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 25, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
More than the enamel.  Info from two "Bobs"  both are consistent.  Far East and "South of the Border" were considered.   More cost effective from the  Far East.

So, @harris92 , do you know if they're just sending the bowls & lids offshore to enamel? or, are the complete grills going to be made offshore?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 25, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
Ok, I have to ask?  What does "Bobs" mean?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 25, 2017, 05:21:54 PM
Here's an update for y'all who didn't do the email thing.

From Patio World
Hello All,

To say there has been extreme interest in the new kettle coming out is an understatement.  I thank you all for your interest, patience, and understanding.

As I understand, the availability of the grill will be nationwide.  BUT, it will be up to the local Weber dealer to purchase the kettle or not before the May deadline.  As much as I would love to sell the kettle to everyone across the nation, I feel it would be unfair for me to not have your local Weber dealer have the opportunity to sell the grill themselves.  That being said, if your local Weber dealer will not be offering/carrying this grill, I can ship to you with added shipping charges.

For people who are interested in picking up at one of our store locations in southern California (Riverside or Temecula), the price of the grill will be $199.00 + tax AND plus shipping/handling to get it from the factory to our stores here in southern California.  The more people who order this grill, the less the shipping expense as it can be split among the various customers.

For people who wish to have the grill shipped from our store in southern California to their specific location in the United States, the above still applies PLUS the shipping to get to your location.  This may be very costly, that is why I recommend for you to see if you can purchase at your local Weber dealer.  If not, I will be more than happy to ship it to you from our store in southern California.
 
To order, I need full payment for the grill itself ($199.00 + tax) BEFORE MAY 12, 2017. The shipping/handling charges will be figured and charged once I receive the grills in hand and you pick them up at one of our store locations or before we ship them to your location.  No Cancellations and No Refunds will be accepted.  This is a special order item.  Shipment by Weber is expected to be sometime in November of 2017.
 
I plan on sending my order into Weber by 11:00AM on May 12, 2017 Pacific Standard Time.  So I recommend all of your orders to be in as soon as possible.
 
We are a small family business run by myself, my father, mother, and sister.  We do this all ourselves, so any questions or concerns will be handled by me, Wayne, and may take a little time to get back to you.  We have been in business for almost 40 years and we care for all of our customers as if they were family.(see: http://www.patioworldonline.com/about-us/ ).
 
Thank you again everyone for your interest.  I too am a Weber fanatic (18" redhead teak handles, 22 avocado, 22 brownie, 2 - 18" WSM, and a 1980s smokey joe).
 
Please let me know if you have any further questions.

--
Thank you,
Wayne Romain
Patio World
951-354-0500
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That could change things a bit for me. I'm still getting the grill, but perhaps there will be a dealer closer, or even in Canada. It would save me a shitload of shipping costs.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on March 25, 2017, 08:33:38 PM
Gonna check with my local BBQ store this week. If I can get one (or two), without shipping... I may go for it. @harris92 do we know if the color will change? I hate the taco, but the Topper branding is interesting. I've never store bought a kettle for myself, so this would be a first on many levels.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 25, 2017, 09:02:22 PM
After I read my email I was a little concerned about a non refundable deposit of $199 without actually knowing the shipping costs.  We would have to pay shipping to Southern California and then again to ship to our locations.  I personally like buying things when I know exactly what it's going to cost me. 

Like others I may do a little research and see if I can find it locally.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 25, 2017, 09:20:36 PM
Ok, I have to ask?  What does "Bobs" mean?


My best guess is it's a reference to Office Space. One of my all time favorite movies. [emoji106]🏻

https://youtu.be/_iiOEQOtBlQ
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on March 25, 2017, 09:40:03 PM
So are we gonna find out if this thing is shiny or matte and what the logo will look like before we put $ down?

I don't mind where the kettle is made as long as The quality is still there. Once a company can't claim "Made in the USA using globally sourced parts" anymore then all bets are off to where products will be made.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 26, 2017, 05:04:11 PM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 27, 2017, 07:08:49 AM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Are you concerned about cooking on one of these for health reasons?  @charred
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: shiner on March 27, 2017, 07:36:56 AM
I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 27, 2017, 08:30:07 AM
Just spoke with my local Gloucester MA Alliance dealer, Foster's Grill Store. They will be carrying it if anyone needs a closer source. It's a one shot deal as the order needs to be placed in May. Second time she was curious how I knew about things being released several days before she did. Foster's Grill Store - (978) 283-1275  she said to call for more info if anyone wants an East Coast dealer

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on March 27, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
It seems a little strange that they are releasing these in November.  You would think they would have had them ready for Spring.  Especially since they are selling them through a patio furniture store.  I guess they are going for the Holiday season and hoping they sell as gifts.

Maybe something called Christmas?

I know what'll be on my WKC Secret Santa wish list this year...  ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: hawgheaven on March 27, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Good God... I have no more room!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Erich on March 27, 2017, 09:05:53 AM
I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.

Shiner,  got bad news for you.  Weber has not been manufactured in the US in some time now.  The vent lid was reworded to say
Designed and Engineered in Palatine Il.  They are not allowed to say MADE in USA if it is made overseas.

Others can chime in but this goes back at least to  2012

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg136406/#msg136406

See Reply #10 in link above for picture of a 2012
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 27, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.

Shiner,  got bad news for you.  Weber has not been manufactured in the US in some time now.  The vent lid was reworded to say
Designed and Engineered in Palatine Il.  They are not allowed to say MADE in USA if it is made overseas.

Others can chime in but this goes back at least to  2012

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg136406/#msg136406

See Reply #10 in link above for picture of a 2012

They are not allowed to say "Made in the USA" if ANY PART OF IT is NOT made in the USA.
There's a pretty big difference.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 27, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Are you concerned about cooking on one of these for health reasons?  @charred


Not really. I have reds that I cook on. But, they're old. They're not a new product, that I personally am funding, which requires cadmium. I wonder about the manufacturing facility and how safe the process will be for the workers. Besides, I'm more interested in old kettles.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 27, 2017, 10:41:50 AM
I don't know what they make in Huntley Illinois but there is a FUCKING HUMONGOUS Weber facility there.  It's by my dad's house and its large.    They must be doing something in there....

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 27, 2017, 10:45:25 AM
The only way I'd be disappointed is if it were a flat red like the flat slate blue they make on the Limited Edition Canadian ones.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 27, 2017, 01:11:46 PM
The only way I'd be disappointed is if it were a flat red like the flat slate blue they make on the Limited Edition Canadian ones.

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+1
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 27, 2017, 03:52:22 PM
Flat red is better than NO red at all. Would I prefer shiny red? Absolutely. It seems that we've jumped the gun and managed to point out everything wrong with something that hasn't been available in nearly 20 years. Was the 26er kettle the SAME design specs when it was re-released? No. Was the Jumbo Joe? No. Will the red be just like a shiney 60s, 70s, 80s red? Maybe yes, maybe no. As far as it coming from China, many people here that are upset about that have more electronics and other things around the house that come from there than one may realize. Weber is listening. I DO think that our great community has had some influence. Let's not take something special like this and spin it into something negative before we have all of the details. As for Topper being on the grill? ABSOLUTELY!! TWICE!! On the lid AND the bezel. Topper IS Weber history. How cool would some sweet Zavod Topper handles look with this special edition grill? Call it the Topper Red, I say. I'll cook on it with great pride and with great pleasure.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 27, 2017, 03:55:09 PM
I don't know what they make in Huntley Illinois but there is a FUCKING HUMONGOUS Weber facility there.  It's by my dad's house and its large.    They must be doing something in there....

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that they turn out one hell of a fine product in that facility. Just a wild guess....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 27, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
You're right Craig. I will retract some of my earlier comments. It is really awesome of Weber to bring it back and I really do hope we see some of the colors of old return. How about a yellow then a brownie next?  It does suck to pay upfront sight unseen. I think seeing it in person would change a lot of the opinions already out there on this deal. In reality I'd probably trade my crimson performer for one if it was the bright red of old.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 27, 2017, 04:17:51 PM
"The Bobs" ask and expectation is the color will be the bright fire engine red we all like.  Ship has sailed on Topper (bezel it is)....I think the grill will look nice with a mod of 1960's steel wheels with rubber tread and white walls.

Flat red is better than NO red at all. Would I prefer shiny red? Absolutely. It seems that we've jumped the gun and managed to point out everything wrong with something that hasn't been available in nearly 20 years. Was the 26er kettle the SAME design specs when it was re-released? No. Was the Jumbo Joe? No. Will the red be just like a shiney 60s, 70s, 80s red? Maybe yes, maybe no. As far as it coming from China, many people here that are upset about that have more electronics and other things around the house that come from there than one may realize. Weber is listening. I DO think that our great community has had some influence. Let's not take something special like this and spin it into something negative before we have all of the details. As for Topper being on the grill? ABSOLUTELY!! TWICE!! On the lid AND the bezel. Topper IS Weber history. How cool would some sweet Zavod Topper handles look with this special edition grill? Call it the Topper Red, I say. I'll cook on it with great pride and with great pleasure.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: shiner on March 27, 2017, 04:34:47 PM
I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.

Shiner,  got bad news for you.  Weber has not been manufactured in the US in some time now.  The vent lid was reworded to say
Designed and Engineered in Palatine Il.  They are not allowed to say MADE in USA if it is made overseas.

Others can chime in but this goes back at least to  2012

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg136406/#msg136406

See Reply #10 in link above for picture of a 2012

My understanding is that the kettles and all charcoal burning products are still made in the USA, in either Palatine or Huntley, Illinois. The gassers are where, per my understanding, things get iffy as to origin of parts/manufacture.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 27, 2017, 04:39:47 PM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Are you concerned about cooking on one of these for health reasons?  @charred


Not really. I have reds that I cook on. But, they're old. They're not a new product, that I personally am funding, which requires cadmium. I wonder about the manufacturing facility and how safe the process will be for the workers. Besides, I'm more interested in old kettles.
Your old product has cadmium as well. That's what gave it that nice red colour.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 27, 2017, 05:00:24 PM
Bright fire engine red is what I am also thinking. We already have Crimson red made in USA without cadmium.

Quote
Cadmium is a term used to describe a class of brilliant pigments that include cadmium as one of its chemical components. Hues containing cadmium sulfide vary from lemon yellow to orange; adding increasing amounts of cadmium selenium produces a red pigment which can be very dark, almost black. Cadmium yellow is sometimes mixed with viridian to give a bright, pale green mixture called cadmium green.
http://sgvarts.blogspot.ca/2013/04/term-cadmium.html

How about yellow, orange, glen blue in the future if this Red kettle becomes a hit. Very possible I am thinking.  I am not sure about the pricing though. $199 is in the MT territory. As a OKP, it should be priced closer to reg.$ of 149 is what I am thinking.  Not for me, but for many others might not like this plus the additional shipping cost.  We will just have to wait and see how this turns out.

Whatever maybe the case or the cost... this is really exciting news.  The way I see it, instead of complaining about no colors offered.... if we stand behind this opportunity by Weber, we will get more colors in the future. If you don't like the idea of Weber's decision to make this special edition off shore.....step aside.  There are many of us who want this to happen.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 27, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
Yes!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 27, 2017, 06:54:11 PM
I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.

Shiner,  got bad news for you.  Weber has not been manufactured in the US in some time now.  The vent lid was reworded to say
Designed and Engineered in Palatine Il.  They are not allowed to say MADE in USA if it is made overseas.

Others can chime in but this goes back at least to  2012

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg136406/#msg136406

See Reply #10 in link above for picture of a 2012

My understanding is that the kettles and all charcoal burning products are still made in the USA, in either Palatine or Huntley, Illinois. The gassers are where, per my understanding, things get iffy as to origin of parts/manufacture.
Let me try to explain this again.  The kettle bowls and lids are manufactured in Palatine from steel from Canada, and the US. The charcoal baskets are made in China, the regular non hinged grates are made in China, the hinged grates are made in Taiwan. the charcoal grates are made in China. Where the legs or the vents are made, I do not know, where the screws and nuts & rivets come from, I do not know. I'm not sure how long this has gone on, but parts have been foreign sourced for quite a while.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 27, 2017, 06:57:57 PM
I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.

Shiner,  got bad news for you.  Weber has not been manufactured in the US in some time now.  The vent lid was reworded to say
Designed and Engineered in Palatine Il.  They are not allowed to say MADE in USA if it is made overseas.

Others can chime in but this goes back at least to  2012

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg136406/#msg136406

See Reply #10 in link above for picture of a 2012

My understanding is that the kettles and all charcoal burning products are still made in the USA, in either Palatine or Huntley, Illinois. The gassers are where, per my understanding, things get iffy as to origin of parts/manufacture.
Let me try to explain this again.  The kettle bowls and lids are manufactured in Palatine from steel from Canada, and the US. The charcoal baskets are made in China, the regular non hinged grates are made in China, the hinged grates are made in Taiwan. the charcoal grates are made in China. Where the legs or the vents are made, I do not know, where the screws and nuts & rivets come from, I do not know. I'm not sure how long this has gone on, but parts have been foreign sourced for quite a while.

As far as the gassers are concerned, the Summit series and the Genesis2 LX series are made in the US. The SX series are made overseas.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on March 27, 2017, 07:04:23 PM
Is it just going to Alliance dealers? If so, mine loves to mark things up. The SCG is 2k and 2.5k respectively. I'll probably wind up plopping down $250 for the OKP. Not sure I can justify that.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 27, 2017, 07:12:55 PM


I was all in until I found out it wasn't going to be U.S. made. No thanks. I can deal with some items being made overseas, but something I will be cooking on being made in China? No thanks.

Shiner,  got bad news for you.  Weber has not been manufactured in the US in some time now.  The vent lid was reworded to say
Designed and Engineered in Palatine Il.  They are not allowed to say MADE in USA if it is made overseas.

Others can chime in but this goes back at least to  2012

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg136406/#msg136406

See Reply #10 in link above for picture of a 2012

My understanding is that the kettles and all charcoal burning products are still made in the USA, in either Palatine or Huntley, Illinois. The gassers are where, per my understanding, things get iffy as to origin of parts/manufacture.
Let me try to explain this again.  The kettle bowls and lids are manufactured in Palatine from steel from Canada, and the US. The charcoal baskets are made in China, the regular non hinged grates are made in China, the hinged grates are made in Taiwan. the charcoal grates are made in China. Where the legs or the vents are made, I do not know, where the screws and nuts & rivets come from, I do not know. I'm not sure how long this has gone on, but parts have been foreign sourced for quite a while.

I agree Darko ... None of the new grills are 100% made in the USA anymore.  Open up a new kettle and there are parts in there made overseas.  The red bowl and lid will just be another piece.  I trust that Weber will not chance their reputation by delivering a sub par product; especially in a limited edition. 

I'm stoked to be able to buy my first new RED Weber grill. This may sound corny, but I grew up in an apartment complex in Queens, NYC. We weren't allowed to have BBQs there.  I was always jealous of my parents friends that lived in the suburbs and were able to own and use a BBQ. A couple of friends had Webers, one was red.  My experience with grilling was limited to a little hibachi grill at the beach or one of those grocery store disposables. 

Fast forward to December 1999 when I moved out of the city to Long Island. Spring 2000 comes and I go to local BBQ dealer to finally buy a red Weber. DENIED. Red is no longer available. :( We settle for a dark green gasser. A fine machine, still grilling today, but not what I always wanted. 

Since I've found this place, a couple of nice members have helped me find and buy those red grills, Zavod has made me some great wood handles, and I've learned so much about grilling and Weber's place in history as an American icon. But, as silly as it sounds, I'm personally gonna be stoked to finally be able to open that box and find that bright red kettle inside.  :)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 27, 2017, 08:11:45 PM
Is it just going to Alliance dealers? If so, mine loves to mark things up. The SCG is 2k and 2.5k respectively. I'll probably wind up plopping down $250 for the OKP. Not sure I can justify that.
Wow! Those are Canadian prices.

I look at it  this way....
Sure, I can buy an old Weber... but I see Weber making a grill that we as Grillfella's have been wanting for a long time. Weber has finally figured out (or finally decided to make one for us true fans). It may not be perfect for what we want as individuals, but it is good for the group. Don't forget... Weber needs to make money on this as well. Perhaps, this is the best that they could do.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 27, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
I have been wanting Weber to do a retro grill for a long time and yes this is not exactly what I had hoped for, but I will definitely take it.  I will look past the bolt on handle and some of the other issues and can't wait til I'm sitting in my living room unboxing and playing with my new red kettle this November.  This has been a great week and I'm super excited!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Uncle Al on March 27, 2017, 09:41:27 PM
I'm definitely stoked for this one!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 28, 2017, 12:40:47 AM
I've been in contact with my weber dealer here in canada to see if it's available here, he is checking into it for me and i will update when I hear back from him..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 28, 2017, 02:55:14 AM
I'd be a total hypocrite sitting here bitching that only Canada and EU get different color kettles and how badly I wanted one and then now that it comes out, pass on it, LOL.

I'm all in.


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 28, 2017, 02:59:55 AM
The retail mark up in the kettle is $60 to get to the $199
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 28, 2017, 08:36:16 AM
We always make sure that we're looking after our Canadian fans! Stay tuned for more information!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 28, 2017, 08:37:21 AM
From Weber Canada...

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 28, 2017, 08:52:55 AM
I don't know what they make in Huntley Illinois but there is a FUCKING HUMONGOUS Weber facility there.  It's by my dad's house and its large.    They must be doing something in there....

Maybe storing all the stuff made in China?

Also......................Do we have confirmation that anyone besides Kevin Kolman currently works for Weber in the States? How much do Harris and Dorka really know and how long will it take to reveal? Will a spare taco be included in the bottom of the box? Will Canada get a Celsius version of the new Red?...I am calling a dealer now to find out. And when will this this thread hit 20 pages and ten thousand views?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jcnaz on March 28, 2017, 09:56:09 AM
Tune in tomorrow!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 28, 2017, 10:07:21 AM
I don't know what they make in Huntley Illinois but there is a FUCKING HUMONGOUS Weber facility there.  It's by my dad's house and its large.    They must be doing something in there....

Maybe storing all the stuff made in China?

Also......................Do we have confirmation that anyone besides Kevin Kolman currently works for Weber in the States? How much do Harris and Dorka really know and how long will it take to reveal? Will a spare taco be included in the bottom of the box? Will Canada get a Celsius version of the new Red?...I am calling a dealer now to find out. And when will this this thread his 20 pages and ten thousand views?


Gotta love the Boogyman.....

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 28, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Are you concerned about cooking on one of these for health reasons?  @charred


Not really. I have reds that I cook on. But, they're old. They're not a new product, that I personally am funding, which requires cadmium. I wonder about the manufacturing facility and how safe the process will be for the workers. Besides, I'm more interested in old kettles.
Your old product has cadmium as well. That's what gave it that nice red colour.

@Darko No shit Sherlock.  :)

But they're already manufactured. No new use of cadmium was necessary.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 28, 2017, 10:38:11 AM
Now it's gettin' rich.

If this does go over and Weber indeed does bring back historical colors for limited release.....even this curmudgeon would purchase a Chinese Taco Glen Blue.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 28, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Tune in tomorrow!


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What a tease.  Not even a clue...

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: chiku18 on March 28, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
Checked my local dealer in Tampa, and they indeed are taking the Pre-Order for delivery in October (as per them).
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: tb80 on March 28, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
Has anyone noticed the original link no longer works.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking this is a big hoax or April Fool's joke.  I just spoke to a dealer in my area and he had no clue what I was talking about and tried to find out info on it and was unable to find anything.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 28, 2017, 01:54:07 PM
Has anyone noticed the original link no longer works.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking this is a big hoax or April Fool's joke.  I just spoke to a dealer in my area and he had no clue what I was talking about and tried to find out info on it and was unable to find anything.

It's because they took it down.
The information was embargoed and they leaked it.

Now we only have the saved version and the results of an adult game of Chinese Whispers
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 28, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
Now it's gettin' rich.

If this does go over and Weber indeed does bring back historical colors for limited release.....even this curmudgeon would purchase a Chinese Taco Glen Blue.
I think they released the blue in Europe a few years back.....

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on March 28, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
Now it's gettin' rich.

If this does go over and Weber indeed does bring back historical colors for limited release.....even this curmudgeon would purchase a Chinese Taco Glen Blue.
I think they released the blue in Europe a few years back.....


It's now discontinued but they called it Blue Wave. Close to the original 60's Glen Blue but a few shades off. Not as classy as the original color.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 28, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
Now it's gettin' rich.

If this does go over and Weber indeed does bring back historical colors for limited release.....even this curmudgeon would purchase a Chinese Taco Glen Blue.
I think they released the blue in Europe a few years back.....


It's now discontinued but they called it Blue Wave. Close to the original 60's Glen Blue but a few shades off. Not as classy as the original color.

Maybe that's what the original was, and they all faded over the last 50 years.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 28, 2017, 09:45:58 PM
Now it's gettin' rich.

If this does go over and Weber indeed does bring back historical colors for limited release.....even this curmudgeon would purchase a Chinese Taco Glen Blue.
I think they released the blue in Europe a few years back.....

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In 2012 they released Wedgewood Blue. My Instagram buddy BBQ Mange has one and I drool every time I see it. I think this is the Blue you're referring to.

My guess is that Weber is responding to our relentless call for colors other than Green Crimson and Copper.

And this is probably obvious that  sales of this unit will determine if they offer more in the future.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Uncle Al on March 28, 2017, 09:55:14 PM
What would be the best way to locate a local dealer that is taking pre-orders?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jon on March 28, 2017, 10:48:01 PM
Now it's gettin' rich.

If this does go over and Weber indeed does bring back historical colors for limited release.....even this curmudgeon would purchase a Chinese Taco Glen Blue.
I think they released the blue in Europe a few years back.....


It's now discontinued but they called it Blue Wave. Close to the original 60's Glen Blue but a few shades off. Not as classy as the original color.

Maybe that's what the original was, and they all faded over the last 50 years.

Isn't it pretty to think so? They didn't all fade the same way over fifty years. Yeah, and at least I haven't.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 29, 2017, 02:18:34 AM
What would be the best way to locate a local dealer that is taking pre-orders?
Call customer service, give them your zip code and ask them which store is the closest Alliance Dealer
Number - 1-800-446-1071

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 29, 2017, 08:08:02 AM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Are you concerned about cooking on one of these for health reasons?  @charred


Not really. I have reds that I cook on. But, they're old. They're not a new product, that I personally am funding, which requires cadmium. I wonder about the manufacturing facility and how safe the process will be for the workers. Besides, I'm more interested in old kettles.
Your old product has cadmium as well. That's what gave it that nice red colour.

@Darko No shit Sherlock.  :)

But they're already manufactured. No new use of cadmium was necessary.
What amount of cadmium is used in these grills is minor. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on March 29, 2017, 08:22:58 AM
I find this thread humorous and fun
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on March 29, 2017, 10:01:06 AM
I find this thread humorous and fun


Give em what they've been begging for relentlessly and then listen to them complain, LOL.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 29, 2017, 10:11:32 AM
I find this thread humorous and fun


Give em what they've been begging for relentlessly and then listen to them complain, LOL.

I give my guys at work all sorts of special things as a thank you for their hard work and all I get back are negatives.  I give them gift cards to local grocery stores at Christmas for a nice Christmas dinner and I get "I don't shop at that store."  I give them baseball tickets and get "I don't like baseball."  Passes for the fair and ride tickets for their kids "I would rather just have the cash." 
You try and do something to please people and all you get are complaints it makes you say to hell with it.  I'm not doing it anymore.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 29, 2017, 10:28:40 AM
I find this thread humorous and fun


Give em what they've been begging for relentlessly and then listen to them complain, LOL.

I give my guys at work all sorts of special things as a thank you for their hard work and all I get back are negatives.  I give them gift cards to local grocery stores at Christmas for a nice Christmas dinner and I get "I don't shop at that store."  I give them baseball tickets and get "I don't like baseball."  Passes for the fair and ride tickets for their kids "I would rather just have the cash." 
You try and do something to please people and all you get are complaints it makes you say to hell with it.  I'm not doing it anymore.

I know that feels!
As a bystander, I appreciate the things you do for your team Josh.
I've been in that situation and it sucks. 2017 people are spoiled and difficult to please.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Robert on March 29, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
 I red the thread but didn't see any mention of a red 26".  So, is it to early too ask for a red 26"?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: tb80 on March 29, 2017, 02:08:32 PM
I take my words back about it being an April Fools joke and admit I was wrong. I just spoke to another local Weber dealer and he acknowledged that the above information is correct.  He also seemed to imply that it was kind of a test by Weber to see how much of an interest there will be in limited runs like this one. He almost made it sound like if this one is popular enough they may do more in the future.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 29, 2017, 03:12:05 PM
That's what I'm talking about! If they make a yellow that will turn orange and blush for me then I'll sell whatever I have to sell to get one.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on March 29, 2017, 03:28:31 PM
correct...... :D

I take my words back about it being an April Fools joke and admit I was wrong. I just spoke to another local Weber dealer and he acknowledged that the above information is correct.  He also seemed to imply that it was kind of a test by Weber to see how much of an interest there will be in limited runs like this one. He almost made it sound like if this one is popular enough they may do more in the future.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 29, 2017, 04:11:00 PM
That is what I was told.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 29, 2017, 04:56:00 PM
I called Weber today and all they​ will confirm is that it is coming later this year.  They gave me the number of the local Weber Alliance dealer here on Long Island. The list on their website is not accurate at all.

Of course the dealer didn't hear of it, and they were in training last month.  I sent them the brochure that was posted online and they're going to call Weber tomorrow and check to see about ordering.  Hopefully there is no minimum quantity. It would be great if I could buy this grill less than 30 minutes from my home.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on March 29, 2017, 05:20:41 PM
Stopped in to my non-alliance dealer today. They will be getting them. They were a bit supprised how I knew. Also had no idea about the Topper branding. Wouldn't tell me a price, and said May arrival.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on March 29, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
I agree with HoosierKettle. I think they are missing the boat also. The OTS/OK in red would probably generate more profit on increased sales. This is a stripped Master Touch at a premium price. Weber is all about the profit margin. Didn't see any OTG/OKP  ash catchers on the beautiful red kettles posted earlier in this thread. Weber could easily have some twist on ash pans punched out overseas. No big deal, that can changed out. The taco handle can be modded to look almost like the welded handle(even though it is turned the wrong direction for a 22 lid), but the POS thermometer is an abomination. I would buy it if I had the bucks to throw away and break it up for parts, and make it look like those vintage kettles in the pictures. Maybe someone will make a silver bolt on kettle or Topper logo to plug the thermometer hole. What about that little classic red 18 that George is standing beside in his suit? The 18 needs some color for the US/Canada markets too, Weber!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on March 29, 2017, 07:39:07 PM
My mistake, that is a 22. but the little neglected 18 could use a color option like the  UK was offered
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on March 29, 2017, 09:12:49 PM
I agree with HoosierKettle. I think they are missing the boat also. The OTS/OK in red would probably generate more profit on increased sales. This is a stripped Master Touch at a premium price. Weber is all about the profit margin. Didn't see any OTG/OKP  ash catchers on the beautiful red kettles posted earlier in this thread. Weber could easily have some twist on ash pans punched out overseas. No big deal, that can changed out. The taco handle can be modded to look almost like the welded handle(even though it is turned the wrong direction for a 22 lid), but the POS thermometer is an abomination. I would buy it if I had the bucks to throw away and break it up for parts, and make it look like those vintage kettles in the pictures. Maybe someone will make a silver bolt on kettle or Topper logo to plug the thermometer hole. What about that little classic red 18 that George is standing beside in his suit? The 18 needs some color for the US/Canada markets too, Weber!

What's wrong with the thermometer?
Also, what is OK and OKP?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on March 29, 2017, 09:36:49 PM

I agree with HoosierKettle. I think they are missing the boat also. The OTS/OK in red would probably generate more profit on increased sales. This is a stripped Master Touch at a premium price. Weber is all about the profit margin. Didn't see any OTG/OKP  ash catchers on the beautiful red kettles posted earlier in this thread. Weber could easily have some twist on ash pans punched out overseas. No big deal, that can changed out. The taco handle can be modded to look almost like the welded handle(even though it is turned the wrong direction for a 22 lid), but the POS thermometer is an abomination. I would buy it if I had the bucks to throw away and break it up for parts, and make it look like those vintage kettles in the pictures. Maybe someone will make a silver bolt on kettle or Topper logo to plug the thermometer hole. What about that little classic red 18 that George is standing beside in his suit? The 18 needs some color for the US/Canada markets too, Weber!

What's wrong with the thermometer?
Also, what is OK and OKP?

Original Kettle (old OTS) Original Kettle Premium (old OTG)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on March 30, 2017, 06:06:45 AM
My thing about it being made in China doesn't stem from a "buy American" theme. It's about the cadmium.

Are you concerned about cooking on one of these for health reasons?  @charred


Not really. I have reds that I cook on. But, they're old. They're not a new product, that I personally am funding, which requires cadmium. I wonder about the manufacturing facility and how safe the process will be for the workers. Besides, I'm more interested in old kettles.
Your old product has cadmium as well. That's what gave it that nice red colour.

@Darko No shit Sherlock.  :)

But they're already manufactured. No new use of cadmium was necessary.
What amount of cadmium is used in these grills is minor.

That's probably true but I have no idea. I also have no idea how safe the manufacturing process is for the worker. China isn't known for reputable worker or environmental standards.

In the past I have clamored for colors, but that was pre-taco handle. Now, I'm not interested in them at all. For me, it's like buying a 2002 Thunderbird because I want a '55. YMMV.  :)







Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cumminfourya on March 30, 2017, 06:56:34 AM


In the past I have clamored for colors, but that was pre-taco handle. Now, I'm not interested in them at all. For me, it's like buying a 2002 Thunderbird because I want a '55. YMMV.  :)
[/quote]

Well put @charred [emoji23]. However I still want one [emoji16]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on March 30, 2017, 09:06:39 AM
Craig answered the OK=Original Kettle, OKP=Original Kettle Premium question.
For me the thermometer spoils the vintage look and leaves a hole in the lid if you don't want it.
I'm ok with the new handle now because I can mod it to look vintage, and since my 18 I've gotten used to the crosswise turn. But $199 plus tax, freight and then shipping if you don't live close to an Alliance dealer is holding color hostage. One might ask "where are the charcoal baskets, the gourmet grates, and the lid bail?" you get for $199 plus tax with the black Master Touch. You are giving up a lot for that special color. Oh, well it is what it is. I could have ordered a MT from Canada for $275, but chose to buy a OKP copper for $161 and swap parts with my black MT because I really wanted a copper. I still wish I had fell in love with the kettles back when I could have got a new Target Copper. I also missed the good deals on the UK 18 color Kettles darn it(even at $150). With Original Kettles you could do anything you want. Perfect for Mods. Mod the handle and add a twist ash pan= close as most can get to a new vintage kettle look.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 30, 2017, 10:10:58 AM
Craig answered the OK=Original Kettle, OKP=Original Kettle Premium question.
For me the thermometer spoils the vintage look and leaves a hole in the lid if you don't want it.
I'm ok with the new handle now because I can mod it to look vintage, and since my 18 I've gotten used to the crosswise turn. But $199 plus tax, freight and then shipping if you don't live close to an Alliance dealer is holding color hostage. One might ask "where are the charcoal baskets, the gourmet grates, and the lid bail?" you get for $199 plus tax with the black Master Touch. You are giving up a lot for that special color. Oh, well it is what it is. I could have ordered a MT from Canada for $275, but chose to buy a OKP copper for $161 and swap parts with my black MT because I really wanted a copper. I still wish I had fell in love with the kettles back when I could have got a new Target Copper. I also missed the good deals on the UK 18 color Kettles darn it(even at $150). With Original Kettles you could do anything you want. Perfect for Mods. Mod the handle and add a twist ash pan= close as most can get to a new vintage kettle look.

This one does have a lid bale.  I could take or leave the gourmet grate and have plenty of charcoal baskets.  It's not far off from the recent MT.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 30, 2017, 11:47:32 AM
Latest from one of the local Alliance Dealers here on Long Island, NY...

Quote
Hey Chris,

so I got some info on the Grills,  They will not be available until October unfortunately.  We will have them on order when they become available and as a alliance dealer we do get first dibs to order items like this. This was only introduced to weber higher ups last week  so someone leaked it. lol.

We will be bringing them in though and hopefully when released ill definitely put your name on it.  No need to preorder.

Thanks and have a great day. 


 
Adam Bravo
Bravo Window and Door Supply
1060 Montauk Highway
Copiague NY 11726
Cell (631)404-2779  Office (631)532-6300
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 30, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
I could have ordered a MT from Canada for $275

Is there a dealer in Canada that's lets you order the Canada colors and ships to the USA?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on March 30, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Dickson bbq..........http://www.dicksonbbq.com/
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on March 30, 2017, 02:10:16 PM
Yeah, I may get one. It's a raw deal but we're a captive audience. I will figure out something to do with the hole in the lid. Maybe see how accurate a long stem Tru tell would be, and mod a push aside chrome cover for the hole. If it worked I could easily check different spots at grate level. I apologize to all and Weber for my rant. That bowl handle looks a lot like a thru-the-bowl bolt on plastic composite type. That would be the next step to no welded handles. Bet they get a lot of damaged ones from their pack.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 30, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
I called Weber and had them look my zip code up. No Alliance dealers near me. The garden center in town sells Weber so I asked the manager to call them and ask about ordering this grill for me. Left my contact info, probably a no go for me.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on March 30, 2017, 02:47:59 PM
I'm glad they are making a red but it would be cool if they would make it in the ots. I like the simple kettles.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on March 30, 2017, 02:49:48 PM
It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they made a red bolt on handle in the old shape and slapped a couple wood handles on either [emoji3]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 30, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
I called Weber and had them look my zip code up. No Alliance dealers near me. The garden center in town sells Weber so I asked the manager to call them and ask about ordering this grill for me. Left my contact info, probably a no go for me.

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Weber was very little help for me as well.  Woman I spoke with said she could not find any Alliance dealers near me.  I asked her if there were any near San Francisco and she was having a very tough time.  Figure I will just wait and see what happens. 

Yeah, I may get one. It's a raw deal but we're a captive audience. I will figure out something to do with the hole in the lid. Maybe see how accurate a long stem Tru tell would be, and mod a push aside chrome cover for the hole. If it worked I could easily check different spots at grate level. I apologize to all and Weber for my rant. That bowl handle looks a lot like a thru-the-bowl bolt on plastic composite type. That would be the next step to no welded handles. Bet they get a lot of damaged ones from their pack.

Maybe you can run your probes through the hole in the lid.  Please don't even mention bolt on bowl handles.  That would do it for me.  It's one thing in the lid, but I could not deal with a bolt on handle on the bowl.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on March 30, 2017, 05:15:36 PM
I called Weber and had them look my zip code up. No Alliance dealers near me. The garden center in town sells Weber so I asked the manager to call them and ask about ordering this grill for me. Left my contact info, probably a no go for me.


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My local non-alliance dealer is getting them.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 30, 2017, 06:21:35 PM
Cool. I'll see if Al has good news when he calls me back


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 31, 2017, 04:10:47 AM
Dickson bbq..........http://www.dicksonbbq.com/
Thank you!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on March 31, 2017, 10:55:57 AM
So I just got the call back from my garden center which carries the new Weber Genesis. According to his supplier the new limited edition is so new that their company "doesn't have access to it". I'm not too bummed. Personally I'd rather have an old red MBH than this one so it's all good to me. Good luck fellas.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: zavod44 on March 31, 2017, 11:30:57 AM
I find this thread humorous and fun


Give em what they've been begging for relentlessly and then listen to them complain, LOL.



Thats the Gods honest truth.......
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 31, 2017, 01:41:36 PM
I called Weber and had them look my zip code up. No Alliance dealers near me. The garden center in town sells Weber so I asked the manager to call them and ask about ordering this grill for me. Left my contact info, probably a no go for me.

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Weber was very little help for me as well.  Woman I spoke with said she could not find any Alliance dealers near me.  I asked her if there were any near San Francisco and she was having a very tough time.  Figure I will just wait and see what happens. 


There just may be an Alliance Dealer near you and Weber just can't find it.  Weber's dealer locator on their website is horrible and it appears that the CS agents use the same locator that we do. I was looking for an Alliance Dealer near me on Long Island and it was showing the closest ones were in NJ and PA. How can that be for an island of 7 million people? 

So, I called Weber, and after much fussing about, the agent located a dealer about 10 miles to the west of me. The dealer's name never came up when I did a dealer search.  Then, that evening I decided to look up this company that I always see on Craigslist selling new Webers. Recently, he posted a pic of his showroom and there was a wall of Weber accessories in the background. He must be a dealer, right?  His place is located about 7 miles from me.  When I put my zip code into the dealer locator his place wasn't listed, not even as a Dealer.  However, when I entered his zip code in as my location his place shows up, and low and behold, he's an Alliance Dealer and located just about 7 miles from me.  I would have never found him if not for that Craigslist ad.  Terrible job by Weber with their website.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on April 04, 2017, 08:33:40 AM
I talked to Weber Canada and they have no info on this grill... yet.

I wonder if this will be a US exclusive?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mr.CPHo on April 04, 2017, 03:09:34 PM

I talked to Weber Canada and they have no info on this grill... yet.

I wonder if this will be a US exclusive?
Fortunately you have connections in the U.S. if you wanted one.  [emoji41]✌️


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on April 04, 2017, 04:16:20 PM
Yeah, but I was trying to avoid shipping costs.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on April 05, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
I talked to Weber Canada and they have no info on this grill... yet.

I wonder if this will be a US exclusive?

They are still trying to clear out the exclusive ones they got in that were not supposed to last the year. With all the calls they got they thought they'd be long gone.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on April 05, 2017, 06:47:29 PM



They are still trying to clear out the exclusive ones they got in that were not supposed to last the year. With all the calls they got they thought they'd be long gone.
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What? What are you trying to say??

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 06, 2017, 04:30:55 AM



They are still trying to clear out the exclusive ones they got in that were not supposed to last the year. With all the calls they got they thought they'd be long gone.


What? What are you trying to say??

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Last years Canadian Special Edition Master Touch in Ivory, Spring Green, Smoke, and Slate that are still up for grabs in Canada.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on April 06, 2017, 07:56:48 AM



They are still trying to clear out the exclusive ones they got in that were not supposed to last the year. With all the calls they got they thought they'd be long gone.


What? What are you trying to say??

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Last years Canadian Special Edition Master Touch in Ivory, Spring Green, Smoke, and Slate that are still up for grabs in Canada.
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Send them across the border and get them sold. Real easy. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on April 06, 2017, 07:11:55 PM
My understanding is that 500 of each colour were made for Canada, except 1 colour which 1000 were made.


My opinion is that the issue is that where stuff like the coloured Mastertouch's, the Summit Charcoals... This stuff is sold in specialty BBQ stores.  Alas, In this day and age the vast majority of people get their BBQ's at big chain stores. And a lot of them buy cheap shit made offshore.

Alas, this is where Weber as a company faces an issue.  Their products are too good. They make a good product & offer a 10 yr warranty, but then a bunch of so called Weber aficionados buy a used grill that still has life in it for 50 bucks or less and bitch about how much a new grill costs, or the colour available.

It it what it is.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Filibuster on April 06, 2017, 11:35:14 PM
   It's just that weber is going about the release of this red grill all wrong. First it seems that all Alliance Dealers will be handling this grill, wth!!! I dont know about you but ive never heard of this place before, now I've got to find the closest one and bug them. So I call weber up for the closest "AD" and they tell me I can get this special grill from my neighborhood Ace. Whew much better!!!
   Now if weber is trying to gauge public interest on this grill why not have something on their website where you leave your name and zipcode. Or just say this is a limited production of 1000 or 2000 and they can be ordered from the traditional big box stores.
   As far as the Canadian Mastertouch's being handled through specialty shops, the production run should have been halve of what they did. What is the population of Canada anyway. You know what they say, hindsight is 20/20. As far as these reds go I would guess a production run of 1000 for America would be enough. Always keep them coming back for more I say.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on April 07, 2017, 08:49:12 AM
   It's just that weber is going about the release of this red grill all wrong. First it seems that all Alliance Dealers will be handling this grill, wth!!! I dont know about you but ive never heard of this place before, now I've got to find the closest one and bug them. So I call weber up for the closest "AD" and they tell me I can get this special grill from my neighborhood Ace. Whew much better!!!
   Now if weber is trying to gauge public interest on this grill why not have something on their website where you leave your name and zipcode. Or just say this is a limited production of 1000 or 2000 and they can be ordered from the traditional big box stores.
   As far as the Canadian Mastertouch's being handled through specialty shops, the production run should have been halve of what they did. What is the population of Canada anyway. You know what they say, hindsight is 20/20. As far as these reds go I would guess a production run of 1000 for America would be enough. Always keep them coming back for more I say.

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If these are going to be for sale at Ace that would help a ton as I'm having a hell of time finding an alliance dealer near me. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on April 07, 2017, 06:30:15 PM
It will be available to non-Alliance dealers.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 11, 2017, 12:09:17 PM

@Josh G- I received a call back today from the manager of Dale Hardware in Fremont. It is a Ace Hardware affiliate and has the largest Weber display I have seen other than California Backyard in Sacramento.  Dale Hardware along with all Ace Hardware affiliated stores will be carrying the limited edition red "Topper" kettle. Price will be $199 with no prepayment required.  Weber has not released much information on it other than it is coming some time in the fall. He expects Ace, along with Weber to have some kind of marketing campaign preceding it's official release.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on April 11, 2017, 12:16:47 PM
Since this is considered the Topper grill does anyone have any images of Topper?

I was thinking about making a stencil for my next stainless tumbler


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on April 11, 2017, 12:17:54 PM

@Josh G- I received a call back today from the manager of Dale Hardware in Fremont. It is a Ace Hardware affiliate and has the largest Weber display I have seen other than California Backyard in Sacramento.  Dale Hardware along with all Ace Hardware affiliated stores will be carrying the limited edition red "Topper" kettle. Price will be $199 with no prepayment required.  Weber has not released much information on it other than it is coming some time in the fall. He expects Ace, along with Weber to have some kind of marketing campaign preceding it's official release.

That's great.  Fremont is a bit of drive for me so maybe an ACE closer to me will have them.  Thank you for the information!  Sounds like I have to get down to Fremont and check out Dale Hardware though.  @Cellar2ful
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on April 11, 2017, 12:52:36 PM
My buddy runs our local Ace I'll ask him what he can find out. It might be a warehouse item and if that's the case any Ace can get it


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Filibuster on April 11, 2017, 02:23:58 PM
   Lets hope Weber has enough sense to give us some "red topper" accessories. Grill cover, gloves, tools, salt and pepper grinder,etc, etc. Anybody from Weber reading this and taking notes???

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: saxart on April 11, 2017, 06:04:17 PM
   Lets hope Weber has enough sense to give us some "red topper" accessories. Grill cover, gloves, tools, salt and pepper grinder,etc, etc. Anybody from Weber reading this and taking notes???

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X2,500!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on April 11, 2017, 09:07:16 PM

@Josh G- I received a call back today from the manager of Dale Hardware in Fremont. It is a Ace Hardware affiliate and has the largest Weber display I have seen other than California Backyard in Sacramento.  Dale Hardware along with all Ace Hardware affiliated stores will be carrying the limited edition red "Topper" kettle. Price will be $199 with no prepayment required.  Weber has not released much information on it other than it is coming some time in the fall. He expects Ace, along with Weber to have some kind of marketing campaign preceding it's official release.

So fall it is? My guy is expecting a May release.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on April 11, 2017, 10:01:06 PM

So fall it is? My guy is expecting a May release.

I believe the cut off date for the dealers to have their order in is May.  Expected delivery to the dealers is November.  Note red highlighted areas in this email from Patio World:

Here's an update for y'all who didn't do the email thing.

From Patio World
Hello All,

To say there has been extreme interest in the new kettle coming out is an understatement.  I thank you all for your interest, patience, and understanding.

As I understand, the availability of the grill will be nationwide.  BUT, it will be up to the local Weber dealer to purchase the kettle or not before the May deadline.  As much as I would love to sell the kettle to everyone across the nation, I feel it would be unfair for me to not have your local Weber dealer have the opportunity to sell the grill themselves.  That being said, if your local Weber dealer will not be offering/carrying this grill, I can ship to you with added shipping charges.

For people who are interested in picking up at one of our store locations in southern California (Riverside or Temecula), the price of the grill will be $199.00 + tax AND plus shipping/handling to get it from the factory to our stores here in southern California.  The more people who order this grill, the less the shipping expense as it can be split among the various customers.

For people who wish to have the grill shipped from our store in southern California to their specific location in the United States, the above still applies PLUS the shipping to get to your location.  This may be very costly, that is why I recommend for you to see if you can purchase at your local Weber dealer.  If not, I will be more than happy to ship it to you from our store in southern California.
 
To order, I need full payment for the grill itself ($199.00 + tax) BEFORE MAY 12, 2017. The shipping/handling charges will be figured and charged once I receive the grills in hand and you pick them up at one of our store locations or before we ship them to your location.  No Cancellations and No Refunds will be accepted.  This is a special order item.  Shipment by Weber is expected to be sometime in November of 2017.
 
I plan on sending my order into Weber by 11:00AM on May 12, 2017 Pacific Standard Time.  So I recommend all of your orders to be in as soon as possible.
 
We are a small family business run by myself, my father, mother, and sister.  We do this all ourselves, so any questions or concerns will be handled by me, Wayne, and may take a little time to get back to you.  We have been in business for almost 40 years and we care for all of our customers as if they were family.(see: http://www.patioworldonline.com/about-us/ ).
 
Thank you again everyone for your interest.  I too am a Weber fanatic (18" redhead teak handles, 22 avocado, 22 brownie, 2 - 18" WSM, and a 1980s smokey joe).
 
Please let me know if you have any further questions.

--
Thank you,
Wayne Romain
Patio World
951-354-0500
www.PatioWorldOnline.com



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on April 12, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
It's interesting Weber has concluded November is the ideal release date. I realize the Xmas angle, but it seems to me springtime/Father's Day/ or some other time pre/during GRILLING season makes more sense. Xmas will always follow anyway.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on April 12, 2017, 07:08:14 PM
Both Alliance Dealers in my area said they spoken with Weber and it was set for an October release.  Take that for what it's worth I guess. 

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on April 26, 2017, 11:13:16 AM
My Alliance Dealer is placing an order at the end of the week. He stated they will be available in November.

For all the Maryland members, Talk to Scott Barron him Troy sent you.

The Grill Center at Chesapeake Spas
2806 Solomons Island Rd.
Edgewater, MD
410-798-5674 or 800-974-8827
info@thegrillcentermd.com
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 56MPG on April 26, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
If they would only make one in black for me...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on April 26, 2017, 11:26:49 AM
If they would only make one in black for me...
For a guy with your stature I would think all you would have to do is ask !!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 26, 2017, 11:34:08 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/3aa15cb8072b14bf88eae8275b52b639.jpg)

I might have one. Real pic to follow later today  tomorrow.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vwengguy on April 26, 2017, 11:43:14 AM
With any luck it also comes with the new style thermometer.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vwengguy on April 26, 2017, 11:43:45 AM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vwengguy on April 26, 2017, 12:13:05 PM
And maybe the red wheels from the kettle plus ?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vwengguy on April 26, 2017, 12:13:35 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JordanW on April 26, 2017, 12:45:20 PM
Paid for..... Now we wait. Ugh-
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on April 26, 2017, 02:27:51 PM
Paid for..... Now we wait. Ugh-
how much was it out the door?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JordanW on April 26, 2017, 02:31:42 PM

Paid for..... Now we wait. Ugh-
how much was it out the door?

$216.41

I will have to pay to have it shipped to me as well in November.

Wouldn't you know it, just now got a call from my local Ace Hardware letting me know that they will be stocking them as well in November. Crap! O well. Couldn't risk it....


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on April 26, 2017, 03:25:18 PM
The dude from the CA store called me today to let me know of the deadline. That's awesome customer service, imo.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on April 26, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
 I got the same call. Great service,
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on April 26, 2017, 03:32:08 PM
It makes no sense for Weber to offer a limited edition grill, spend money to research it, time to design unique features,  eventually promote it, then only to make it next to impossible for people that want it, to be able to find it to buy it.  It will be available to anyone that has a couple hundred bucks in their pocket... No doubt about that.  I'll be one if them.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on April 26, 2017, 03:40:26 PM

Paid for..... Now we wait. Ugh-
how much was it out the door?

$216.41

I will have to pay to have it shipped to me as well in November.

Wouldn't you know it, just now got a call from my local Ace Hardware letting me know that they will be stocking them as well in November. Crap! O well. Couldn't risk it....


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Hopefully the shipping won't be too bad for you.  At least you are in the same state, even though it's a big state. 

Can't wait to see an actual picture of one of these.  One has to be leaked here pretty soon. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on April 26, 2017, 04:08:12 PM
I got the call today as well. I thanked them and politely declined. I agree they have great customer service.   Two Alliance dealers in my area assured me they are getting them and will hold for me.  I hope I'm not going to regret this decision.  The shipping from CA to NY would have been alot. 

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jcnaz on April 26, 2017, 05:59:37 PM
If they would only make one in black for me...
YES!!! [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 27, 2017, 07:21:47 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/3aa15cb8072b14bf88eae8275b52b639.jpg)

I might have one. Real pic to follow later today  tomorrow.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/IMG_40642.jpg)

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on April 27, 2017, 10:40:42 AM
If it looks that good, Fuck, I'll be all over it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on April 27, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
that looks sweet, is that it?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jason on April 27, 2017, 04:15:04 PM
Looks like the kettle is floating...😎
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 27, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
Looks like the kettle is floating...😎

Just the lighting.  Here is another pic of the same kettle under diff. lighting.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/IMG_4080.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/IMG_40772.jpg)

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on April 27, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
^^^You got more tacos than I can shake a stick at there GreenDude. Is it one of the new Reds or is it a spray painted Copper from Eastern Europe? You're killing me man.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jason on April 27, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Looks like the kettle is floating...😎

Just the lighting.  Here is another pic of the same kettle under diff. lighting.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/27/IMG_4080.jpg)

You did a great job of capturing the color in the first pic!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on April 27, 2017, 05:51:46 PM
How did you get that? Please share the details.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on April 27, 2017, 06:05:39 PM
@greenweb can we see the thermometer?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 27, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
^^^You got more tacos than I can shake a stick at there GreenDude. Is it one of the new Reds or is it a spray painted Copper from Eastern Europe? You're killing me man.

It is my new red kettle with black handles and other parts from the Master Touch spare parts I put together based on the features described. I suspect that the kettle coming in Nov. will look exactly like it. 50/50 chance on the black out wheel caps rather than red shown. Also, the special edition topper logo will be inside the thermo is what I am thinking.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 27, 2017, 06:11:34 PM


You did a great job of capturing the color in the first pic!

Thanks! I tried.  The pic you said look like it is floating is with a flash on.

Just encase some of you might be wondering..... I took the pics and the image loaded here without using any types of image-editing software.  The pics you see is what my camera captured taking pics of the kettle I have.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 27, 2017, 06:17:17 PM
@greenweb can we see the thermometer?

The thermo is just a reg. one. When released in Nov. I am thinking the special ed. topper logo thermo will be on it.

I know what you are thinking or doubting. I am in no way affiliated with Weber special team in creating this kettle coming in Nov. I am just one of us curious bunch who want to see what it really looks like in person and putting one together based on the feature description.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on April 27, 2017, 08:22:20 PM
I contacted Hastybake in Tulsa this morning. The woman in customer service said they were getting the red grills. She took my name and number and said she would let me know any details she receives. She said they should get several in of anyone is close to there. Might give her a call and get on the list.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on April 28, 2017, 03:15:13 AM
I'm sure a bunch of us will be watching closely how this all unfolds.
I put my order and money down for mine.

What will be interesting is :

If Weber truly makes it so that only what was ordered initially by the stores that are offering it will be available or if suddenly anyone can get them long after they are released.
If the Big Box stores have them on shelves for people to buy who didn't place an order six months in advance.

I'm not getting the Ivory MT in Canada partly because I want to support this effort in the States and my local Alliance dealer.

How Weber handles the release of this grill will speak a great deal about how they value their small mom and pop Alliance dealers and if they are in fact listening to the enthusiasts like ourselves that have been clamoring for Limited editions like the ones offered in Europe and Canada.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on April 28, 2017, 03:24:06 AM
The limited edition kettle coming out this fall will not be crimson.    :D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 28, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
The limited edition kettle coming out this fall will not be crimson.    :D

You are a wise man @ harris92.  :D :D :D

Some members are questioning if I actually have the real red se kettle to be released later this year. Ah! No. Since Weber did not released actual pic of the kettle yet, I put together my brand new red (crimson) with MT parts to create one to visually see what it might look like in person. I used vivid mode on my camera to brighten up the pic. Camera pics were than loaded up here without any enhancement.

Sorry for the confusion it has created. It was never meant to be a trickery or a joke. I believe, I clearly stated that this was something I put together on my own using my new red kettle.  :D :D :D    Did not mean to, but hopefully, I have created more interested in this upcoming red kettle and you all like what you see.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Starspike on April 29, 2017, 07:42:21 AM
i have a pic.. its so red!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on April 29, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
"I took the pics and the image loaded here without using any types of image-editing software" You used the image-editing software in the camera to brighten up the red. If you didn't want to trick us you could have said It is my new crimson instead of "It is my new red kettle with black handles and other parts from the Master Touch spare parts" I was going to ask where did you get a new red kettle? Did you have it shipped from the UK? How did you get the red hub caps? You tricked us by withholding information. If you sent this on April 1st  we could have let this slide, but now we're going to have to place you on club suspension. We will have to watch you closely from now on greenweb. lol.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on April 29, 2017, 02:52:59 PM
LOL!   @TD- I am sorry if you got into thinking that I had exact same fire engine red se kettle coming later. UK don't have the same one either, so how would I get the same one.  Red hub caps were red tape.  I could have also painted them.

As for the pic image being changed using an editing software, I meant photoshop- alter digitally using Photoshop image-editing software like Adobe's photo editing to alter loaded pic.  As for using different mode on the camera like Portrait, low light, close-up, vivid....etc mode to enhance pic does not called out as a photoshopped like the original weber pic shown.  Important thing for me was to show real red kettle to show how upcoming red se would look( minus slight variation on the actual color red) and not photoshopped using my Copper Master Touch.


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on April 29, 2017, 06:24:48 PM
It's all good. Appreciate the post. It was really nice to see what one would look like. Hope they are that nice when they get here.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 04, 2017, 05:12:56 PM
Does anyone have any news on this? I can't get shit for information from either Weber in Canada or the US!!! I'm told by some retailers that they need to be ordered by tomorrow.  I've heard that these will be available in Canada, but Weber or any of the Canadian Alliance dealers don't know.  My buddy called Weber customer service to order a 26" grate and asked about the topper. They had no clue either!!!

What the heck is going on here?????
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on May 04, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
The X-files theme song started playing in my head just now.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on May 04, 2017, 05:22:34 PM

Does anyone have any news on this? I can't get shit for information from either Weber in Canada or the US!!! I'm told by some retailers that they need to be ordered by tomorrow.  I've heard that these will be available in Canada, but Weber or any of the Canadian Alliance dealers don't know.  My buddy called Weber customer service to order a 26" grate and asked about the topper. They had no clue either!!!

What the heck is going on here?????

My dealer got conflicting information on it several times. A couple of us have deposits and orders from in.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on May 04, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
It makes no sense for Weber to offer a limited edition grill, spend money to research it, time to design unique features,  eventually promote it, then only to make it next to impossible for people that want it, to be able to find it to buy it.  It will be available to anyone that has a couple hundred bucks in their pocket... No doubt about that.  I'll be one if them.

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+1

I am confident that if Weber has this thing planned and worked out correctly.... all of us who want one should be able to both in US and in Canada regardless if you signed and payed deposit or not.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 04, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
See, this is what is bothering me! I've only heard from Patio World that this has to be ordered by tomorrow. But then I have to pay for it, and then have to pay for shipping to me. One would think that Weber would want to share information & get the buzz out for this.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on May 04, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
Does anyone have any news on this? I can't get shit for information from either Weber in Canada or the US!!! I'm told by some retailers that they need to be ordered by tomorrow.  I've heard that these will be available in Canada, but Weber or any of the Canadian Alliance dealers don't know.  My buddy called Weber customer service to order a 26" grate and asked about the topper. They had no clue either!!!

What the heck is going on here?????

they probably found the information leak and sealed it ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 04, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
Does anyone have any news on this? I can't get shit for information from either Weber in Canada or the US!!! I'm told by some retailers that they need to be ordered by tomorrow.  I've heard that these will be available in Canada, but Weber or any of the Canadian Alliance dealers don't know.  My buddy called Weber customer service to order a 26" grate and asked about the topper. They had no clue either!!!

What the heck is going on here?????

they probably found the information leak and sealed it ;)
Well then something sucks. As it stands, I'll buy one for sure, perhaps 2. My friend wants 2 for sure. Weber has given better lead times before. We want to spend our money... but we need something official!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 04, 2017, 07:09:51 PM
I talked to my Ace Hardware owner today.  He actually sent me the screenshot of the order screen for the topper limited edition.  What he said is he has to preorder basically now in order to get them but he thinks he has until the end of the month.  This is slated to be on the National AD for November for ACE hardware.  SO I think I would go to my local Ace hardware and make sure they get me one preordered.  Not sure if you guys north of the border have Ace hardware though

I will try and ad the image from the order screen granted it could be generic but there is something weird on the lid

Retail is $199
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 04, 2017, 07:11:21 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 04, 2017, 07:11:35 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 04, 2017, 07:11:55 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on May 04, 2017, 09:33:00 PM
I talked to my Ace Hardware owner today.  He actually sent me the screenshot of the order screen for the topper limited edition.  What he said is he has to preorder basically now in order to get them but he thinks he has until the end of the month.  This is slated to be on the National AD for November for ACE hardware.  SO I think I would go to my local Ace hardware and make sure they get me one preordered.  Not sure if you guys north of the border have Ace hardware though

I will try and ad the image from the order screen granted it could be generic but there is something weird on the lid

Retail is $199
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 05, 2017, 06:30:25 AM
OK, so I just talked to an Ace Hardware dealer in Niagara Falls NY. They will be taking orders for it in October for November delivery.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on May 05, 2017, 06:35:20 AM
I talked to my Ace Hardware owner today.  He actually sent me the screenshot of the order screen for the topper limited edition.  What he said is he has to preorder basically now in order to get them but he thinks he has until the end of the month.  This is slated to be on the National AD for November for ACE hardware.  SO I think I would go to my local Ace hardware and make sure they get me one preordered.  Not sure if you guys north of the border have Ace hardware though

I will try and ad the image from the order screen granted it could be generic but there is something weird on the lid

Retail is $199


Yeah, the taco handle.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 05, 2017, 07:43:50 AM
There's a little something extra by the thermometer


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 05, 2017, 07:46:15 AM
@darko

Who did you talk to did they seem wholely competent??  Granted maybe they're preordering several but my guy made it sound like he only had one shot to order these in. And I do know that season ad stuff is about 6 months out


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on May 05, 2017, 08:39:01 AM
@darko

Who did you talk to did they seem wholely competent??  Granted maybe they're preordering several but my guy made it sound like he only had one shot to order these in. And I do know that season ad stuff is about 6 months out


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That's how my folks explained it as well.  They seem very frustrated with the correspondence from Weber which has given conflicting information to them as far as when they could release the information.  If they are being told that they can only get the ones they pre-order by May 1 and then they are widely available to big box stores at a later date I could see them being very frustrated.

There are other brands which they sell in increasing numbers such as Traeger, Napoleon and BGE. When there are local events it seems they other grill companies are doing more as far as marketing. Maybe Weber is just THAT confident that they don't care so much about their mom and pop Alliance dealers.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 05, 2017, 09:10:13 AM
I explained all that to them, about other places taking orders and wanting payment beforehand. They checked everything and called me back and told me that they will be taking orders in October for the Weber Limited Edition grill, for delivery in November. I specifically asked if it was the red for $199.00. I was told yes. I asked about preordering and was told no, they are not taking them now.
What I gathered is that this grill was announced to dealers and some leaked the info ahead of the official announcement.  Now, I'm starting to believe this because looking at @captjoe06 's ad from his dealer, they have a cut off date of May 1st. Now, Patio World in California had a cut off date of May 5th.

What this is leading me to believe, is that some dealers may be taking preorders with prepayment ahead of time to minimize their financial risk on ordering.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on May 05, 2017, 09:22:13 AM
I was told by an Weber Alliance dealer in South TX that cut off was May 1. That $100 deposit would pre-order me one and it would be $199 and no delivery charge if I pick it up. I decided to pass. Red is not really my color. We shouldn't have to purchase sight unseen just because it's Weber.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on May 05, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
Just spoke with my local Alliance Dealer and he said they ordered 16 of them and he was holding one for me.  Delivery will be late October / early November.  I'll just chuckle if I've made all these calls and I see one sitting in the local Lowe's.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on May 05, 2017, 03:43:08 PM
I explained all that to them, about other places taking orders and wanting payment beforehand. They checked everything and called me back and told me that they will be taking orders in October for the Weber Limited Edition grill, for delivery in November. I specifically asked if it was the red for $199.00. I was told yes. I asked about preordering and was told no, they are not taking them now.
What I gathered is that this grill was announced to dealers and some leaked the info ahead of the official announcement.  Now, I'm starting to believe this because looking at @captjoe06 's ad from his dealer, they have a cut off date of May 1st. Now, Patio World in California had a cut off date of May 5th.

What this is leading me to believe, is that some dealers may be taking preorders with prepayment ahead of time to minimize their financial risk on ordering.

Local Ace just told me something similar.

Seems more like the people that are trying to take pre-orders are trying to take advantage of the grillfellas.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on May 05, 2017, 03:43:41 PM
yeah. i was just getting another dig in re: the taco.  ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 05, 2017, 03:54:00 PM
I explained all that to them, about other places taking orders and wanting payment beforehand. They checked everything and called me back and told me that they will be taking orders in October for the Weber Limited Edition grill, for delivery in November. I specifically asked if it was the red for $199.00. I was told yes. I asked about preordering and was told no, they are not taking them now.
What I gathered is that this grill was announced to dealers and some leaked the info ahead of the official announcement.  Now, I'm starting to believe this because looking at @captjoe06 's ad from his dealer, they have a cut off date of May 1st. Now, Patio World in California had a cut off date of May 5th.

What this is leading me to believe, is that some dealers may be taking preorders with prepayment ahead of time to minimize their financial risk on ordering.

Local Ace just told me something similar.

Seems more like the people that are trying to take pre-orders are trying to take advantage of the grillfellas.
Why do I feel like you know more than you're letting on. 8)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: johnny 2 shack on May 05, 2017, 04:02:06 PM
have no intention of ordering one , but what a fascinating thread ! i find myself checking daily for the latest news  !
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on May 05, 2017, 04:11:26 PM
Well I didn't pre-order, so keeping fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on May 05, 2017, 04:15:07 PM
Well I didn't pre-order, so keeping fingers crossed...
You'll be just fine @rottiguy...There will be plenty for everyone.  If you got 2 bills, you'll have this grill like the rest of us will.  All this unnecessary worrying....

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on May 05, 2017, 04:19:40 PM
Will just wait like everyone else..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 05, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
That's exactly what I'm thinking.

When I google the grill, I see nothing official from Weber at this point in time. What I have seen is just a picture from 1 or 2 dealers.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on May 05, 2017, 05:30:55 PM
Those dealers jumped the gun and leaked a promo that wasn't supposed to drop until Aug.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 05, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
So just my opinion but I am fairly certain that dealers are needing to place their pre orders NOW.  Now that is not to say that is all that weber will produce I imagine they will do a certain percentage over what is preordered.  My Ace guy said he has to order now and will be guaranteed what he orders but will not be guaranteed any more than that so there will not be any available through the warehouse system.

I think the other dealers like Patio world are in the same boat they want to make a sale but don't want to order 100 units and be stuck with 25 after the initial rush thus the reason for the preorders.  I find it unlikely to be able to wait until august or later to add to the initial order since didn't we determine these will need to at least be Enamled overseas?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 05, 2017, 07:08:41 PM
If that is the case, then why did my Ace dealer say he's taking no orders until October even though I offered to pay now?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 05, 2017, 07:24:40 PM
@Darko

That's why I questioned who you talked to because that just dont add up to me.  If it is on the national ad campaign they have to order early My guy orders the bulk of his Christmas lights next month for example.

Maybe they preordered what they feel is enough I cant answer that
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on May 05, 2017, 07:36:40 PM
If you want this grill I'm sure you will be able to get it.  Most of us on this site are probably the only ones who know about this thing.  The everyday normal people have no idea about this grill.  A lot of you guys are asking your local dealers about it and they have not even heard about it.  We are the ones who will be at Ace and our local dealers the day it comes out.  Most likely you will be the first one to buy one.  I'm not worried about getting one of these at all. 

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on May 05, 2017, 08:58:53 PM
@Darko

That's why I questioned who you talked to because that just dont add up to me.  If it is on the national ad campaign they have to order early My guy orders the bulk of his Christmas lights next month for example.

Maybe they preordered what they feel is enough I cant answer that
That is a question I can not answer.

 What I can say is that "my little birds" told me that there will be an official announcement from Weber forthcoming.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on May 05, 2017, 11:13:54 PM

@Darko

That's why I questioned who you talked to because that just dont add up to me.  If it is on the national ad campaign they have to order early My guy orders the bulk of his Christmas lights next month for example.

Maybe they preordered what they feel is enough I cant answer that
That is a question I can not answer.

 What I can say is that "my little birds" told me that there will be an official announcement from Weber forthcoming.

Right, in August.

For the record I'm not worried, I'm fascinated with seeing how it plays out.

I do believe the truth lies in a mix of all our speculation. 

Here's my speculation:

Patio World jumped the gun releasing what wasn't supposed to be leaked and was overwhelmed with people who called in and got on "the list".

When others called their respective Alliance dealers, they made calls to their sales reps, were probably not too happy with Patio World and , again speculating here that Patio World may have got a little gruff from Weber, hence their lengthy statement about wanting to give other Alliance dealers a chance to take orders.

Meanwhile the local dealers who were getting calls from enthusiasts like ourselves are probably thinking "Fuck this, I'm going to take orders too if some guy from the opposite coast can take orders and my prospective customers credit card info, then I'm taking orders."

Further speculation:
There will be some big box stores that ARE pre-ordering a bunch and are telling prospective customers that they're not taking orders till August because they don't even have SKUs for those units but know that there will be a bunch rolling around in their system, much like how Ace still has some Brick red left that was probably a special order that they thought would be long cleaned out by now.

All total guesses on my part and I'm not worried in the least.  The only way I'd be supremely disappointed is if I passed on a Canadian MT Ivory in part to support this USA effort to bring colored grills and it not actually be a bright red or have the lid catcher.

I'm not worried, just fascinated to see how Weber USA will in the end and knowing what we do know, treats it's Alliance Dealers.




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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 05, 2017, 11:36:01 PM
Fwiw the screenshot I got has an Ace sku upc and Weber number


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on May 05, 2017, 11:36:16 PM
Fwiw the screenshot I got has an Ace sku upc and Weber number


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Filibuster on May 06, 2017, 02:10:23 AM
   Went to my local Ace showed them the screen shot they found it in the system. They couldn't take my money because it's not available the owner said I was the third person who came in knowing about this grill and not to worry. They have my name and number.
   So far there are two places that we know about that will have these grills with not one peep coming from Lowes or Home Depot we'll know in the coming months if they are participants.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on May 06, 2017, 07:49:59 AM

Right, in August.

For the record I'm not worried, I'm fascinated with seeing how it plays out.

I do believe the truth lies in a mix of all our speculation. 

Here's my speculation:

Patio World jumped the gun releasing what wasn't supposed to be leaked and was overwhelmed with people who called in and got on "the list".

When others called their respective Alliance dealers, they made calls to their sales reps, were probably not too happy with Patio World and , again speculating here that Patio World may have got a little gruff from Weber, hence their lengthy statement about wanting to give other Alliance dealers a chance to take orders.

Meanwhile the local dealers who were getting calls from enthusiasts like ourselves are probably thinking "Fuck this, I'm going to take orders too if some guy from the opposite coast can take orders and my prospective customers credit card info, then I'm taking orders."

Further speculation:
There will be some big box stores that ARE pre-ordering a bunch and are telling prospective customers that they're not taking orders till August because they don't even have SKUs for those units but know that there will be a bunch rolling around in their system, much like how Ace still has some Brick red left that was probably a special order that they thought would be long cleaned out by now.


You're pretty much bang on Joe.

Anyone taking orders now and telling customers there is a deadline is full of it and trying to cover their ass for leaking the info early. Personally, if I had an order in with Patio World (or anyone else) I would demand my money back as they are flat out lying to get people to put money down ahead of time. Kinda shady in my opinion...

These kettles will be readily available to anyone who wants one - both in Canada and the US.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Homerdog on May 06, 2017, 08:44:34 AM
Finally made it to my local Ace Hardware this morning and asked the manager about this grill and he had no clue. He did eventually find it in his database, but said there were no orders being taken yet, and at this time, he couldn't pre-order. He is going to do some more digging and will contact me when he knows more.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MacEggs on May 06, 2017, 09:00:14 AM
These kettles will be readily available to anyone who wants one


Finally !!  A post in this thread that makes sense.   :o ??? :P :'( ;D ;D ;D :-X
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on May 06, 2017, 09:28:40 AM
These kettles will be readily available to anyone who wants one


Finally !!  A post in this thread that makes sense.   :o ??? :P :'( ;D ;D ;D :-X

Nice to have SixzeroFour confirm this.  But, for the record and not that it makes any difference....Jeff said it long ago and I followed up with agreement post about availability both in US and in Canada.  :D :D :D

It makes no sense for Weber to offer a limited edition grill, spend money to research it, time to design unique features,  eventually promote it, then only to make it next to impossible for people that want it, to be able to find it to buy it.  It will be available to anyone that has a couple hundred bucks in their pocket... No doubt about that.  I'll be one if them.

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+1

I am confident that if Weber has this thing planned and worked out correctly.... all of us who want one should be able to both in US and in Canada regardless if you signed and payed deposit or not.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on May 06, 2017, 12:19:24 PM
Not too happy with the scraps Weber throws to us in the US. They could have allowed the Alliance dealers to special order the Limited Edition Canadian Kettles for their customers. Stainless steel GBS grates for 57cm kettles as well, if someone wanted one. If Weber makes it we should be able to get it. Would have been good business for the small dealers.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on May 06, 2017, 12:33:04 PM
Now that it's been said,let's roll smoke untill she is here!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on May 06, 2017, 02:19:17 PM

Right, in August.

For the record I'm not worried, I'm fascinated with seeing how it plays out.

I do believe the truth lies in a mix of all our speculation. 

Here's my speculation:

Patio World jumped the gun releasing what wasn't supposed to be leaked and was overwhelmed with people who called in and got on "the list".

When others called their respective Alliance dealers, they made calls to their sales reps, were probably not too happy with Patio World and , again speculating here that Patio World may have got a little gruff from Weber, hence their lengthy statement about wanting to give other Alliance dealers a chance to take orders.

Meanwhile the local dealers who were getting calls from enthusiasts like ourselves are probably thinking "Fuck this, I'm going to take orders too if some guy from the opposite coast can take orders and my prospective customers credit card info, then I'm taking orders."

Further speculation:
There will be some big box stores that ARE pre-ordering a bunch and are telling prospective customers that they're not taking orders till August because they don't even have SKUs for those units but know that there will be a bunch rolling around in their system, much like how Ace still has some Brick red left that was probably a special order that they thought would be long cleaned out by now.



Anyone taking orders now and telling customers there is a deadline is full of it and trying to cover their ass for leaking the info early. Personally, if I had an order in with Patio World (or anyone else) I would demand my money back as they are flat out lying to get people to put money down ahead of time. Kinda shady in my opinion...


Yes, this. It does look like Patio World was full of shit and trying to tap into as many sales as possible...
It certainly could be a mistake, or it could be them being a bunch of douchebuckets.
Either way, I'm getting mine from Ace.
If I had plopped money down at Patio World, I'd be cancelling and getting my money back.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on May 07, 2017, 01:47:49 PM
all this bs for a freakin taco handle....smh
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on May 07, 2017, 01:59:35 PM

all this bs for a freakin taco handle....smh

My thoughts too. Hell, I would have been more excited if it was offered in the ok or okp and not mt. I'm not a big fan of lid bales and I like the second handle on the premium kettles. Either way, still hate the taco. Maybe I'll get one of these. I don't know. Would have to see in person.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on May 07, 2017, 02:09:49 PM

all this bs for a freakin taco handle....smh

My thoughts too. Hell, I would have been more excited if it was offered in the ok or okp and not mt. I'm not a big fan of lid bales and I like the second handle on the premium kettles. Either way, still hate the taco. Maybe I'll get one of these. I don't know. Would have to see in person.


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True. As doubtful as I am, gotta leave open the possibility of being so stunned by it in person my credit card will insert itself at the register.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on May 08, 2017, 08:23:47 PM

Right, in August.

For the record I'm not worried, I'm fascinated with seeing how it plays out.

I do believe the truth lies in a mix of all our speculation. 

Here's my speculation:

Patio World jumped the gun releasing what wasn't supposed to be leaked and was overwhelmed with people who called in and got on "the list".

When others called their respective Alliance dealers, they made calls to their sales reps, were probably not too happy with Patio World and , again speculating here that Patio World may have got a little gruff from Weber, hence their lengthy statement about wanting to give other Alliance dealers a chance to take orders.

Meanwhile the local dealers who were getting calls from enthusiasts like ourselves are probably thinking "Fuck this, I'm going to take orders too if some guy from the opposite coast can take orders and my prospective customers credit card info, then I'm taking orders."

Further speculation:
There will be some big box stores that ARE pre-ordering a bunch and are telling prospective customers that they're not taking orders till August because they don't even have SKUs for those units but know that there will be a bunch rolling around in their system, much like how Ace still has some Brick red left that was probably a special order that they thought would be long cleaned out by now.



Anyone taking orders now and telling customers there is a deadline is full of it and trying to cover their ass for leaking the info early. Personally, if I had an order in with Patio World (or anyone else) I would demand my money back as they are flat out lying to get people to put money down ahead of time. Kinda shady in my opinion...


Yes, this. It does look like Patio World was full of shit and trying to tap into as many sales as possible...
It certainly could be a mistake, or it could be them being a bunch of douchebuckets.
Either way, I'm getting mine from Ace.
If I had plopped money down at Patio World, I'd be cancelling and getting my money back.
Not to disagree, but another local Alliance Dealer here on Long Island contacted me on April 3rd with the same May 12th order by date.  When I called them about it originally all I did was inquire about the grill. I never mentioned dates, Patio World, or anything specific.  They told me they had never heard about the grill, had no info, and would call Weber and call me back later, which they did a week later.

They called and left a message for me and were very specific about the May 12th date to get the order into Weber.  He also mentioned that he was getting PDFs and schematics on the grill sent to him.  I think I'll reach out to him tomorrow to see if he'll send me anything in hopes of him getting a sale.  If he sends me anything I will be sure to share it with the group.  I wish there was a way I could post the voicemail for y'all to hear it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on May 09, 2017, 04:20:16 PM
My mom n pop, non alliance dealer is saying big box stores had to have their orders in by May. He will be able to "order in the fall".
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: OrangeJeeper on June 07, 2017, 03:43:11 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster...

I just walked into my local Ace and they found it via SKU 8703274.  They actually told me I could order it and have it next week.

I'm ordering it Friday.  Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on June 07, 2017, 05:00:50 PM
Damn. Keep us posted.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on June 07, 2017, 06:29:22 PM
@orangejeeper I highly doubt it's in the warehouse

It's my understanding that it's a notional add item come November


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: OrangeJeeper on June 08, 2017, 09:15:38 AM
@OrangeJeeper I highly doubt it's in the warehouse

It's my understanding that it's a notional add item come November


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I agree.  Just reporting what I was told.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on June 08, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
Yeah I did have my buddy check and the sku is good but is not available anywhere


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on June 26, 2017, 01:44:31 PM
My Ace guy texted me this AM and said he has to order them by 7/14 in order to get what he wants as it's in the national ad campaign

My suggestion is let your Ace hardware know you want one so they get you one coming. My guy is getting 3 he said one for me and two for the store. I suggested a few more because who cares if you don't sell them until summer but it's not my $$


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: indy82z on June 26, 2017, 03:45:52 PM
Has anyone tried to get their money back from Patio World who got put on "The list"?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on June 26, 2017, 05:15:49 PM
Panic sets in.....

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/06/26/e8e7a363336a99b91a6cd175779db416.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on June 26, 2017, 06:29:17 PM
That's funny!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: inkaddictedchef1 on June 27, 2017, 12:25:00 PM
I called the store a couple of hours... they are not taking anymore preorders but put my name and number on list. This is real and I want in

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on June 27, 2017, 06:48:35 PM
I called the store a couple of hours... they are not taking anymore preorders but put my name and number on list. This is real and I want in

If you are unable to find one look on craigslist or ebay. I bet you can find a mint Red with metal bowl handles for less than one of these modern ones.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on June 27, 2017, 07:17:13 PM
Has anyone tried to get their money back from Patio World who got put on "The list"?
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Guessing someone mighta tried, unsuccessfully I'm sure.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RickyD on July 02, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
I spoke to a Weber rep today at Grillstock Festival. These are being released in England around October.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on July 02, 2017, 08:35:13 PM
I talked to a guy at Ace again today.
His system shows able to order after July 5 for delivery later in the month. I'm going back on Thursday to see if it's legit.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on July 10, 2017, 10:20:38 AM
Ever get by Ace Troy? Watchin for a news break. I might want to go talk to Ace.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on July 10, 2017, 03:31:54 PM
Ever get by Ace Troy? Watchin for a news break. I might want to go talk to Ace.
I have not.  Last week ended up getting out of control. 

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bbqspott on July 14, 2017, 03:56:50 PM
I talked to my local ACE store, here in south eastern Michigan yesterday, and was told their warehouse will have them on the 18th of July. He said to check back then, and if the warehouse has them, he should be able to get one for me.

I also spoke with my local alliance dealer and was told he just ordered three this week, but he also said that he would not get them until November.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on July 25, 2017, 03:01:20 PM
FYI, Topper WILL NOT be on the grill, bezel, etc.  Topper will appear on the box. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on July 25, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
FYI, Topper WILL NOT be on the grill, bezel, etc.  Topper will appear on the box.
That's a bit of a let down.  One of the few logos that woulda made sense.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: iCARRY on July 25, 2017, 04:04:33 PM
I still haven't decided if I want this grill. I want a red, but I really want an older red. If I don't get one by the time this rolls out, I might get one.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on July 25, 2017, 05:03:59 PM
I bet some sweet Topper themed wood handles would look cool on this new red grill!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on July 26, 2017, 12:44:26 AM
Harris

Where'd did you hear this??


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on July 26, 2017, 01:55:06 AM
FYI, Topper WILL NOT be on the grill, bezel, etc.  Topper will appear on the box.
That's a bit of a let down.  One of the few logos that woulda made sense.


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I would have liked to have the Topper logo.  It is a bit of a let down
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Golly on July 26, 2017, 02:39:46 AM
Harris

Where'd did you hear this??


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bahaha like hes gunna tell  :-X

i have my thoughts on where he heard  ;)

but i aint talkin  ::)

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on July 26, 2017, 02:52:53 AM
I saw detailed pics of the live grill and box a few days ago.  Nice looking grill.  It is a true red (not crimson) and does not have the flat finish.  The anniversary box is nice too.  Topper is featured on the box.

Harris

Where'd did you hear this??


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mhiszem on July 26, 2017, 05:23:21 AM
Always @harris92 will the juicy details. I might get one but I am just as anxious to see what they look like.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bertl on July 26, 2017, 10:10:21 AM
Is that thing you're talking about?

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on August 02, 2017, 08:54:22 AM
Anyone else catch Weber's subtle hint on facebook this am? 8)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on August 02, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
Not on Facebook. What's the deal?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on August 02, 2017, 09:59:02 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/02/weberred.gif)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on August 02, 2017, 02:25:19 PM
Mine is on order from a local alliance dealer.  It looks good to see an actual photo of it.  I just bought a used 22 WSM and found an 18" from someone giving it away for free.  I'll have to sneak it into the house somehow as the wife is not pleased.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on August 03, 2017, 07:50:55 PM
FYI, Topper WILL NOT be on the grill, bezel, etc.  Topper will appear on the box.

Just not sure I'll do it now. I hate the taco, and already have a red. Sounds like there are going to be thousands of these made, so going to be a long time before these are going to be a collectors item. Even NIB. I'm also a cooker, not a collector. On the other hand, none of my cookers have come out of a box. If Topper was going to be on the grill... I'd be 100% in. Just not sure the box is worth it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on August 03, 2017, 08:37:15 PM
The irony is that at first a lot of people were skeptical about a logo being on the grill and said they'd prefer it plain. Now we hear it's plain and people want Topper.

Weber can't win, and that's sad for all of us.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on August 04, 2017, 07:24:15 AM
I liked the idea of it on the handle or bezel, just not on the actual grill.  But I'm not into logo grills. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on August 04, 2017, 08:07:03 AM
It will probably sell well. I doubt the general public cares about topper being on it. That's probably why it was left off. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on August 04, 2017, 08:33:26 AM
I hate the taco, and already have a red. Sounds like there are going to be thousands of these made, so going to be a long time before these are going to be a collectors item. Even NIB. I'm also a cooker, not a collector. On the other hand, none of my cookers have come out of a box. If Topper was going to be on the grill... I'd be 100% in. Just not sure the box is worth it.

No need for me to get the new one, either. I've got an older red MT. I have the newer MT triangle, and just placed an order (thru Weber) for the newer MT leg set.  Might see if @zavod44 will be whipping up some Topper handles.........
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mark Schnell on August 04, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Might see if @zavod44 will be whipping up some Topper handles.........

He  can pretty much whip up anything for a handle.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on August 04, 2017, 09:43:07 AM

Might see if @zavod44 will be whipping up some Topper handles.........

He  can pretty much whip up anything for a handle.

Yes, yes he can.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on August 04, 2017, 03:06:50 PM

Might see if @zavod44 will be whipping up some Topper handles.........

He  can pretty much whip up anything for a handle.

Yes, yes he can.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on August 18, 2017, 01:47:15 PM
@db3694  where'd you find this pic?

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on August 18, 2017, 03:57:40 PM
I ordered one last week from my local True Value store.  They said they are due to come in around Thanksgiving. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on August 18, 2017, 04:57:28 PM
That pic is from the Ace Show.  That's the grill.  ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on August 18, 2017, 04:58:57 PM
I want to see it get angry and change color.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on August 19, 2017, 04:17:26 AM
@harris92, will any have the fade?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on August 19, 2017, 05:36:11 AM
No fade


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Speedster on August 20, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
18 inch? I just ordered mine from ace


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on August 20, 2017, 10:29:37 PM
No, just 22" I believe.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on August 25, 2017, 12:38:38 PM
Just found this online :). Not buying from here but the pics are nice.

https://www.wayfair.com/Weber-2017-Limited-Edition-Red-22-Original-Kettle-Premium-Charcoal-Grill-WBE1455.html
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nolch01 on August 25, 2017, 01:07:09 PM
Well there you go.  Packaging and full phot spread.  Looks sharp.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on August 25, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Triangle is on upside down  ::)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on August 25, 2017, 01:28:16 PM
It looks nice but I think I would put the Mastertouch wheels on it. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on August 25, 2017, 02:30:56 PM
I like it!

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/25/webLE1.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/25/webLE2.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/25/webLE3.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/25/webLE4.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/08/25/webLE5.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on August 25, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
Does GM know that they copied Camaro RS wheels for this kettle?
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on August 25, 2017, 03:08:00 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on August 25, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Does GM know that they copied Camaro RS wheels for this kettle?
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This first mod. Applying some red paint on the wheels for proper pimpage ;). Maybe some curb feelers as well ?!?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on August 25, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
Does GM know that they copied Camaro RS wheels for this kettle?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/6b444f84711ffb9260b1535964424b8f.png)


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This first mod. Applying some red paint on the wheels for proper pimpage ;). Maybe some curb feelers as well ?!?
You're onto something. Paint wheels body color & accent with chrome trim rings. Maybe a racing stripe on the kettle


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 56MPG on August 25, 2017, 03:42:50 PM
Triangle is on upside down  ::)

That's like putting your underwear on inside out. Is there a term for that for the glossary?
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on August 25, 2017, 03:45:10 PM
If it transforms into an autobot then hell yes!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on August 26, 2017, 06:45:13 PM
I admit. I'm really liking the box.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on August 30, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
As I eluded to earlier:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170830/a7baa5fbeeeb29ffd9764a6522b8f005.png)
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on September 05, 2017, 05:44:18 PM
So I'm pretty sure the latest I'll be able to get mine in my hands is mid October. I was joking with my guy at Ace telling him I was going to do a live facebook post on his freight day as he unloaded them haha

Now I'm tempted to actually buy two of these because I really want to put one away not that it's really going to be worth anything some day but it might make a cool gift for someone 15-20 years down the road. And there's no point even buying one if you're not going to add it to the patio fleet either.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on September 05, 2017, 09:31:11 PM

Does GM know that they copied Camaro RS wheels for this kettle?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/6b444f84711ffb9260b1535964424b8f.png)

Same.wheel style as on the Genesis II gassers...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/7e3899bc320ffd23e0cf5f21c0c3796a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bertl on September 06, 2017, 01:13:28 AM
Found this at an exhibition in Germany. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/230a65e89fd6f254ac971a71b962f1be.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on September 06, 2017, 04:54:28 AM

Does GM know that they copied Camaro RS wheels for this kettle?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/6b444f84711ffb9260b1535964424b8f.png)

Same.wheel style as on the Genesis II gassers...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/7e3899bc320ffd23e0cf5f21c0c3796a.jpg)


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Yyyyyuuuucccckkk!!!!  They are even uglier when you see 'em head on.  WTF Weber(?)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on September 06, 2017, 05:05:15 AM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that in the pictures, the gloss of the porcelain doesn't seem to reflect images like the pictures of the vintage kettles? Some look down right satin.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on September 06, 2017, 09:11:27 AM
I dig it. Wheels and all. I might even buy it.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on September 06, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
TACO MAN    :o

Weber...wanna feel my Weber?
Weber...such a thrill my Weber
Weber...wanna touch my Weber?
Weber...it's too much my Weber
Check it out my Weber, Weber.
Don't you doubt my Weber,Weber.
talkin' bout my Weber, Weber,
check it out my Weber

Every man wants to be a taco taco man
to have the kind of Weber, always in demand
Grilling in the mornings, go man go
Cooks out in the dark night, briquettes glow
You can best believe that, he's a taco man
ready to get down with, any grill he can

Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey
Taco, taco man
I've got to be, a taco man
Taco, taco man
I've got to be a taco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTV2--PcDI
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mhiszem on September 06, 2017, 11:41:25 AM
Lol amazing!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on September 06, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
Past the point of no return.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on September 12, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
Good lord, as the date approaches I feel the need for this one more and more...


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GregS on September 12, 2017, 02:55:09 PM
now there's an MT color I don't have. 

yet.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on September 12, 2017, 07:40:08 PM
Get it on Amazon for $199. Get an Amazon card and save another $20.

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/trading-post/red-limited-edition-now-on-amazon-for-pre-order/new/#new
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nolch01 on September 12, 2017, 07:44:47 PM
Plus kickback to the WKC!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on September 13, 2017, 06:47:13 AM
I pre-ordered on Amazon as well. Not sure sure I'll follow through and give it to my son for a Christmas or if he'll get one when I order a new second and we both get them for Christmas.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bertl on September 13, 2017, 09:15:49 AM
Get it on Amazon for $199. Get an Amazon card and save another $20.

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/trading-post/red-limited-edition-now-on-amazon-for-pre-order/new/#new
Over $400 in Germany and Austria. More than double is hard[emoji37]

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 13, 2017, 10:00:18 AM
It's in fate's hands, now.

sorta

I've posted a picture of the lid's special edition logo thermometer on my Facebook page along with "DO WANT" mentioned.

Any friend or family member who truly cares about me will track it down and buy me one. (sniff)

Or, I might possibly post the Amazon link there also, as a safeguard.

I have a local Ace stocking the same copper 22 and 2-burner Spirit for the last 2-3 years. That's it, not so much as a single Smokey Joe or even a black 22 of any size.

Are they ever on clearance? Nope. Will they carry this red? Let's just say I'd rather not have to spend an entire afternoon going to Nashville or Bowling Green to find one.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on September 13, 2017, 10:26:19 AM

It's in fate's hands, now.

sorta

I've posted a picture of the lid's special edition logo thermometer on my Facebook page along with "DO WANT" mentioned.

Any friend or family member who truly cares about me will track it down and buy me one. (sniff)

Or, I might possibly post the Amazon link there also, as a safeguard.

I have a local Ace stocking the same copper 22 and 2-burner Spirit for the last 2-3 years. That's it, not so much as a single Smokey Joe or even a black 22 of any size.

Are they ever on clearance? Nope. Will they carry this red? Let's just say I'd rather not have to spend an entire afternoon going to Nashville or Bowling Green to find one.
That's very good thinking! I'm doing the same thing. My family knows how much I love Webers too!  Genius.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 13, 2017, 01:32:59 PM
Sharing an Amazon Wish List probably drives the point home better, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on September 13, 2017, 01:59:06 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/b3497c12410c5151cf6b27a3a8c04317.jpg)

Ok if anyone in the bay area needs help I'll under cut Amazon and professionally assemble for $60 Lol.
This really made my laugh tho
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on September 13, 2017, 02:01:42 PM


I wonder who was the expert who assembled it for the Amazon photo.  The triangle is upside down.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on September 13, 2017, 03:59:10 PM
I like it. I don't know that I can justify buying one, but I do like it. I also think that if it sells well the execs at Weber will be more likely to approve other limited edition runs in the future. You shouldn't piss all over this offering and then grumble about how everything offered in the US is black.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on September 13, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
I have a NIB blue OTG that I picked up a couple years ago when we heard they were discontinuing the blue. It may end up being a gift for one of my sons one day (they're elementary aged now). This redhead might be a good one to buy and set aside for the other.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on September 13, 2017, 04:55:22 PM
Cbpeck

I'm thinking the same thing I have two performers I use now so need is not there so I'm going to buy one and put it in the rafters


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on September 13, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
Taco or not! Here I come! I pre ordered mine today. Also, I need to go be a Weber Kettle assembly man for $90+ a pop, be a nice little side hustle... In my best Frank Rizzo voice to Amazon "I'll come down and start work tomorrow! Should I bring my F&*%@*G TOOLS!?" :D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 14, 2017, 04:10:29 AM
Ok if anyone in the bay area needs help I'll under cut Amazon and professionally assemble for $60 Lol.
This really made my laugh tho

$90? That's a good deal around here.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/14/ScreenShot2017-09-14at6.56.07AM.md.png)

Methinks that boiled into that figure is the builder's transportation. (I'm 1.5hrs from a large city, or a good 30-40mins from the metro outskirts.)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on September 14, 2017, 04:26:28 AM
I'm also guessing the installer doesn't get the full amount?  Even if it took an hour to unbox, setup, inspect, and whatever else Amazon required you to do I think $90/hr is sweet if you do get the full amount.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on September 14, 2017, 02:02:25 PM
$110.89 for a pro here.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Malo83 on September 15, 2017, 12:08:42 PM
Preordered today, my Xmas gift to me,
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on September 16, 2017, 04:04:09 PM
Don't get this.....

Get this:

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/for/d/weber-charcoal-grill/6308517573.html

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/16/00b0b_4tNghj3bMoN_600x450.jpg)

For 200 bucks. Hurry fast. Do it now. Bendeco Taco.

EDIT: Gone gone gone. Looks like somebody wasn't so lame after-all. Very good. The rest of you suckers can have a Chinese Taco!!!! Now Andale Muchachos!!!!! Veraderos Storm Surge!!!!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 1ROW on September 20, 2017, 06:13:31 PM
Has anyone mentioned or wondered aloud why this grill is being referred to as an Original Kettle Premium when aside from apparently lacking the GBS and warming rack it has all the features of a new Mastertouch? Lid bail, what look like 8 inch wheels and the larger triangle. Just found it curious.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 20, 2017, 06:46:14 PM
Well, it's a Limited Edition Original Kettle Premium, which sounds better than a Cut-Rate Missing Accessories Master-Touch.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 1ROW on September 20, 2017, 07:03:12 PM
Yeah, I suppose it does sound better.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on September 20, 2017, 08:02:00 PM
Edit
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 21, 2017, 03:44:52 AM
Yes, they neglected to introduce the Retro Edition Bar-B-Kettle or whatever, complete with rusty triangle, bent legs, stuck/bent daisy wheels, and pockmarks. So "strange" they won't compete with eBay! Yeah, I'm DONE also.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on September 21, 2017, 04:02:57 AM
Even if the new red grill DID come with the warming rack, baskets and GBS, there would still be someone bitching about it (taco handle, wheels, vent position etc.) Can’t we just be happy that classic red is back!?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on September 21, 2017, 06:51:48 AM
Even if the new red grill DID come with the warming rack, baskets and GBS, there would still be someone bitching about it (taco handle, wheels, vent position etc.) Can’t we just be happy that classic red is back!?


Nope.   It does not matter what they come out with, someone will always complain.  They could have redone a Glen Blue perfectly and some people would still be complaining that the metal is too thin or it shouldn't have a one touch cleaning system.  Some people are only happy when they are complaining. 

I have no intention to buy one of these, but I don't want to ruin for it those that are, by bad mouthing it.  Nor do I want to piss off Weber so they say forget it and not try it again with a yellow.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on September 21, 2017, 07:21:22 AM
Even if the new red grill DID come with the warming rack, baskets and GBS, there would still be someone bitching about it (taco handle, wheels, vent position etc.) Can’t we just be happy that classic red is back!?


Nope.   It does not matter what they come out with, someone will always complain.  They could have redone a Glen Blue perfectly and some people would still be complaining that the metal is too thin or it shouldn't have a one touch cleaning system.  Some people are only happy when they are complaining. 

I have no intention to buy one of these, but I don't want to ruin for it those that are, by bad mouthing it.  Nor do I want to piss off Weber so they say forget it and not try it again with a yellow.


Offering a contrary opinion is not only "complaining", but an indication the person is "only happy when...complaining"?!  ::)

I doubt any remark here will "ruin it" for anyone who buys one.

Some like it. Some don't. BFD.  :o





Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on September 21, 2017, 08:20:42 AM
I'm buying one, even if I don't like the ugly wheels & taco handle. Gives me an excuse to customize[emoji6]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on September 21, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
I think it looks great and I have no issues with the taco handle. I know that there is no Weber totally made in USA anymore.  But, this one is a bridge too far for me, as it is being made completely out of the States.  But, I do not begrudge anyone who purchases one.   I hope those who purchase them enjoy them thoroughly....grill on.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on September 21, 2017, 11:44:26 AM
I'm buying one, even if I don't like the ugly wheels & taco handle. Gives me an excuse to customize[emoji6]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on September 21, 2017, 03:34:45 PM
Has anyone mentioned or wondered aloud why this grill is being referred to as an Original Kettle Premium when aside from apparently lacking the GBS and warming rack it has all the features of a new Mastertouch? Lid bail, what look like 8 inch wheels and the larger triangle. Just found it curious.
In the original ad it did say it had the GBS grate but not the warming rack.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: fedex on September 21, 2017, 04:29:58 PM
I like everything about it and I'm trying real hard not to buy it.  If I see it at my local ACE in a couple months I'll be screwed. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on September 21, 2017, 04:42:38 PM
What is this?

Buy two, tie up the wife?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170922/323cda1e85d12fed049b26cc91f5d968.jpg)

Red


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on September 22, 2017, 09:49:15 AM
Here ya go guys - standard flip grate, no GBS:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001A.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001AB.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001B.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001C.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001D.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001E.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001H.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001H1.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001IA.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001J.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001J1.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001L.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001M.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001S.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001U.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/14615001W.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on September 22, 2017, 09:53:59 AM
I like it....I like it a lot..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on September 22, 2017, 10:43:30 AM

Even if the new red grill DID come with the warming rack, baskets and GBS, there would still be someone bitching about it (taco handle, wheels, vent position etc.) Can’t we just be happy that classic red is back!?


Nope.   It does not matter what they come out with, someone will always complain.  They could have redone a Glen Blue perfectly and some people would still be complaining that the metal is too thin or it shouldn't have a one touch cleaning system.  Some people are only happy when they are complaining. 

I have no intention to buy one of these, but I don't want to ruin for it those that are, by bad mouthing it.  Nor do I want to piss off Weber so they say forget it and not try it again with a yellow.
. When will the yellow be available! [emoji41]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mhiszem on September 22, 2017, 11:04:00 AM
Thanks for all those pictures @SixZeroFour


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 22, 2017, 11:27:09 AM
I can't deny that seems like an outstanding shade of red. I only hope too many underpaid Chinese workers don't get cancer making mine.

Yes thanks for the update pix Matt.

I like the large, Summit-style lid damper handle. And even most of the other black except for the wheels, which looks like the white trim snapped off. Just like on the old one I just picked up. I'd be tempted to paint portions of those wheels red or white.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on September 22, 2017, 11:53:41 AM
What is this?

Buy two, tie up the wife?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170922/323cda1e85d12fed049b26cc91f5d968.jpg)

Red
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It's a Weber Smoker Box for wood chips - Euro only as well I believe...

https://www.weber.com/GB/en/accessories/smoking-woods/universal-smoker-box (https://www.weber.com/GB/en/accessories/smoking-woods/universal-smoker-box)

either that or the trivet:

https://www.weber.com/GB/en/accessories/gourmet-bbq-system/trivet (https://www.weber.com/GB/en/accessories/gourmet-bbq-system/trivet)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on September 22, 2017, 12:13:00 PM
That little kettle logo in the center of the wheel would look nice in white...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on September 22, 2017, 12:51:15 PM
I just preordered 2, they are "Christmas decorations". I wished I was loaded as I would line the edge of the driveway with them.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on September 22, 2017, 01:18:54 PM
I am really looking forward to seeing this in person.  Looks like it's standard kettle height according to Amazon. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: fedex on September 22, 2017, 05:47:49 PM
I just preordered 2, they are "Christmas decorations". I wished I was loaded as I would line the edge of the driveway with them.


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WHOA, " CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS" that's how I'll get wifey on board.  BRILLIANT!!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on September 22, 2017, 08:32:55 PM
I can't deny that seems like an outstanding shade of red. I only hope too many underpaid Chinese workers don't get cancer making mine.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/22/19224864_10156337622741038_7100630119593546608_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on September 23, 2017, 08:54:48 AM
Great pics! Thanks, @SixZeroFour . I like the color, therm. trim, and logo on the vent knob.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on September 23, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
A Canadian posting a picture of an American president is just so precious!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on October 07, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
Well looks like I'm not going to be the first to get my limited edition. It's supposed to be here Wednesday but I'm going to be out of town dang it.

My plan is to get it and leave it in the box granted I'm going to have to look and makes sure it's all there and perfect put it up in the garage and save it for one of my kids wedding gifts


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on October 08, 2017, 02:21:40 PM
Just at my local Home Depot and I inquired about the grill and provided them with the UPC I had found. They are getting 8 in on November 5th.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on October 08, 2017, 05:16:50 PM

Well looks like I'm not going to be the first to get my limited edition. It's supposed to be here Wednesday but I'm going to be out of town dang it.

My plan is to get it and leave it in the box granted I'm going to have to look and makes sure it's all there and perfect put it up in the garage and save it for one of my kids wedding gifts


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Where did you order/buy it from?

Red


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vwengguy on October 09, 2017, 01:28:50 PM
I just did some checking here in The Netherlands and I see the RED LE OKP is being sold here WITH the standard MT grate ( GBS ) !?!? And also comes with $60 ticket to bbq classes at the weber grill academe.
Again weber makes me ask... WHY ?
Why not sell every item available in every country.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on October 10, 2017, 06:00:30 AM


Well looks like I'm not going to be the first to get my limited edition. It's supposed to be here Wednesday but I'm going to be out of town dang it.

My plan is to get it and leave it in the box granted I'm going to have to look and makes sure it's all there and perfect put it up in the garage and save it for one of my kids wedding gifts


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Where did you order/buy it from?

Red


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on October 10, 2017, 07:33:54 PM
There was some confusion on Amazon with this as the product description indicated 38.5 inch height, and at the bottom the specifications section had indicated 42 inch height which is the height of the Master Touch. I submitted a conflicting information query and I see that Amazon changed the specification to 38.5 inches. I saw somewhere on the web that weber sells this as a Master Touch in Europe, but here it looks like we are getting the Original Premium Kettle version. Amazon is asking $199, for the extra $50 you get the red color, the ergo top lid handle, the lid holding rack, and the larger wheels. You can get a black Master touch for the same price.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on October 11, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
Texted my guy and he said they didn't show today so should be there next Wednesday


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on October 23, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
Well Ace warehouse is being quite the tease. Now it says they might come next week

True value also has them in their Christmas ads


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on October 23, 2017, 12:44:49 PM
It's $279.00 CDN.

I'm on the fence on this one.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on October 24, 2017, 12:44:15 AM
It's $279.00 CDN.

I'm on the fence on this one.


Do you have any of the Colored MTs already?  Slate, Ivory, Spring Green, Smoke?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on October 24, 2017, 03:35:17 AM
Lowe’s already has them. I picked up mine last night. This is an actual grill by the way. Smallest I’ve ever seen. I didn’t pick it up but it’s tempting.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/5d3fd690f9a11e39222808e96ee7590f.jpg)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Martin75 on October 24, 2017, 05:01:13 AM
Very interesting... Lots of Photoshop going on in the picture. Who is calling to get the details?

The real kettle seems great too - see photos from GaFa, no photoshop, just Iphone :) 
(http://www.grilykrby.cz/img/news/91/img-1111-fancybox.jpg)
some another photos http://www.grilykrby.cz/aktuality/novy-weber-master-touch-aneb-cerveny-vpred (http://www.grilykrby.cz/aktuality/novy-weber-master-touch-aneb-cerveny-vpred)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on October 24, 2017, 12:19:30 PM
It's $279.00 CDN.

I'm on the fence on this one.


Do you have any of the Colored MTs already?  Slate, Ivory, Spring Green, Smoke?
I bought a smoke for my son's friend as a house warming gift.  As it stands, I don't really care for the other colours other than the Ivory. But given the fact that I have multiple grills... it,s really hard to justify spending 300 bucks
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on October 27, 2017, 01:35:56 AM
The Box. This shows it as a Mastertouch in Barcelona. Are the US ones Gourmet Grates? I thought they were going to get the flip up grates for some reason
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171027/d51f800d4235bbd2f90b2088fc4fc623.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on October 27, 2017, 01:41:00 AM
The Box. This shows it as a Mastertouch in Barcelona. Are the US ones Gourmet Grates? I thought they were going to get the flip up grates for some reason
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171027/d51f800d4235bbd2f90b2088fc4fc623.jpg)




Here's the original ad from Patio World-
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/3aa15cb8072b14bf88eae8275b52b639.jpg)

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on October 27, 2017, 09:15:30 AM
Just got a call from my local ace hardware, my grill is in. They have 2 more for any one in the Rockford I’ll. Area if you want one. Thanks craig
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mark Schnell on October 27, 2017, 09:37:07 AM
Just got a call from my local ace hardware, my grill is in. They have 2 more for any one in the Rockford I’ll. Area if you want one. Thanks craig

Get those pics on there ASAP. Answer all our questions about this baby! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 27, 2017, 09:38:24 AM
The Euro version of the limited edition grill is advertised as a Master-Touch, but any pictures or video I have seen of it so far they have the older short legs? (Edit - found some that look like long legs as well) ... they more or less just added the GBS grate to the Euro while we only get the flip. Once again we're left scratching our heads :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2SdQSTnUdM
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 27, 2017, 09:49:55 AM
Oh man... now we're in trouble...

Just spotted this RED MINI version of the Theo Klein toy grill. 8)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/10/27/redmini.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on October 27, 2017, 09:56:52 AM
Oh man... now we're in trouble...

Just spotted this RED MINI version of the Theo Klein toy grill. 8)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/10/27/redmini.jpg)
Oh [emoji90]!!!   Hopefully that’ll be available in [emoji631].


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheDude on October 27, 2017, 11:13:34 AM
Oh man... now we're in trouble...

Just spotted this RED MINI version of the Theo Klein toy grill. 8)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/10/27/redmini.jpg)

Where pray tell was this spotting?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 27, 2017, 11:37:00 AM
Just caught it in an unboxing video for the Euro red MT. I believe the video originated in the Netherlands. So far I have only been able to find a couple other photos of it - nobody seems to have it for sale online yet.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on October 27, 2017, 04:17:53 PM
@ 604 -Thanks for that video. Here is another UK video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jigzNyHQ0Q

I am also on the fence about getting this. But just from the videos, 2 things stand out to me. First, unlike new kettles.... this thing has orange peel. Did Weber try to replicate Kettles of past? More likely a lack luster porcelain spray job from over seas, but I like it. Secondly, the box says Master Touch but the handles only has Weber on. It should look like this. (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/10/27/20161010_105130.jpg)

Another thing is, how limited is this limited edition when it is sold here in North America thru. Amazon, Homedepot and other Big box stores. For example, all my Canadian special edition Master touch were limited to 500 and only sold in selected Weber stores.

Overall, I like this kettle but those wheels has to go imo.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on October 27, 2017, 08:09:28 PM
In the video he says the GBS grate is stainless steel. Have the Euro GBS always been this way?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bertl on October 27, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
In the video he says the GBS grate is stainless steel. Have the Euro GBS always been this way?
I have seen one of those grills at my local dealer in Austria (Europe) and it was a stainless steel GBS inside. The dealer agreed that they where sold this way with a toygrill for 349€. That's a lot of money[emoji30]

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on October 28, 2017, 12:02:14 AM
I just pre-ordered mine on Amazon. I'm looking forward to using the rotisserie on it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on October 29, 2017, 04:38:24 PM
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I happened to walk in to Ace Hardware today and look what I saw. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Scott Zee on October 29, 2017, 04:50:53 PM
"PI" code??? 🤔

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on October 29, 2017, 05:25:04 PM
STILL

DO

WANT
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on October 29, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
Loving that shade of red, it's just right!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on October 29, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
PI code..... well, the “I” makes sense for year “7”........ I can’t wait to get mine!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on October 29, 2017, 05:53:40 PM
It is actually “BI”. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MacEggs on October 29, 2017, 06:07:08 PM
It is actually “BI”.

That's Chinese for, "BUY".   :D ??? ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on October 29, 2017, 06:32:17 PM
Do they got short legs or long legs? Looks like Master Touch leg set.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mark Schnell on October 29, 2017, 06:43:27 PM
Dang!! It's beautiful, absolutely love the orange peel too. Man, I thought I was done buying kettles!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on October 30, 2017, 04:33:42 AM

Do they got short legs or long legs? Looks like Master Touch leg set.

It has the MT legs.   


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on October 31, 2017, 03:41:56 PM
Anyone got one in possession yet?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 01, 2017, 03:52:04 PM

Do they got short legs or long legs? Looks like Master Touch leg set.

It has the MT legs.   


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Are you sure?  I thought it was basically a Mastertouch with the normal shorter legs.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 01, 2017, 04:15:43 PM
They label it as an Original Kettle Premium so it's interesting that it has the MT legs. So really just the grate is different from the MT.

Our store was supposed to receive these back on Oct 18th but they have still yet to arrive. They finally added it to the website here so I can only assume its close :?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 01, 2017, 04:17:45 PM
Can’t wait! This is going to replace my 2014 Crimson that I had converted to the MT-G2 leg kit.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 01, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Got mine!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 01, 2017, 04:23:31 PM
Let’s see some photos!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 01, 2017, 04:33:36 PM
Pics or it didn’t happen!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 01, 2017, 04:52:43 PM
I was called today to pick mine up.. they are in some stores. One home depot in my area has 6 listed in stock.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 01, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
Pics by tomorrow. Stuck at work and have not built it yet.
 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on November 01, 2017, 05:41:16 PM


Do they got short legs or long legs? Looks like Master Touch leg set.

It has the MT legs.   


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Are you sure?  I thought it was basically a Mastertouch with the normal shorter legs.
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Clearly taller than the black kettles next to the Redheads but I will go back there with a tape
measure if you are not sure. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Al b que on November 01, 2017, 06:07:40 PM
The ace store n my part of N.C tells me that mine will here this weekend.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 01, 2017, 07:16:49 PM
I was called today to pick mine up.. they are in some stores. One home depot in my area has 6 listed in stock.

Wow, so weird for H-D to have a Weber that isn't black or maybe, copper.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 01, 2017, 09:23:30 PM
Two week countdown until Amazon releases them. Time enough to bring the rotisserie back from the cabin, weather permitting. Some other goodies are on the way, so I'll be ready to rock at home when it gets here. Weather permitting, of course.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on November 01, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
It would seem that "limited edition" means its a limited time, maximum volume product.
Nevertheless, it's really tempting.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 02, 2017, 05:13:48 AM
It would seem that "limited edition" means its a limited time, maximum volume product.
Nevertheless, it's really tempting.

It'll be interesting to find out what it does mean. Normally, this time of year is the dead zone for girls sold at retailers, with a few notable and historical TV commercials excepted. But here's a current one that neither Weber nor Ace can be bothered to feature on their respective web sites ... 'cause simple promotion is hard?

https://ispot.tv/a/AJxi

I didn't know about the free delivery (wouldn't apply to this Limited Edition since it doesn't cost enough) but would they actually show up Christmas morning???
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on November 02, 2017, 05:23:45 AM
One last post on this thread and I won't annoy you guys further. If you put a standard leg set on this kettle, get rid of the taco and bend the handle to the old shape, take off the vent handle and leave off or use the old style handle, put the old style thermometer and bezel on(hope they didn't drill extra holes in the lid), this would be one classic looking kettle. I really like the black lower triangle, the black ash pan, and the black handles. I think a lot of kettles would look nice with black. Wish Weber would make black handles in that style as an accessory for the pre-taco kettles. I think they would sell. I would buy a black ash pan. I liked the old ones. I would have to have a lid hook so I could hang the lid on the bale to get it out of the way when needed. I would do the carriage bolt mod. I like the wheels better than the MT wheels. I would have had to buy one of these if they were yellow, or a good blue, or a brown fade. I just have too many red things already.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 02, 2017, 05:25:42 AM
I am looking forward to the Zavod44  topper theme handles.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on November 02, 2017, 05:29:50 AM
I am looking forward to the Zavod44  topper theme handles.


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Now your talking
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 02, 2017, 06:55:48 AM
I am looking forward to the Zavod44  topper theme handles.


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Hell Yeah!!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on November 02, 2017, 07:16:21 AM

I am looking forward to the Zavod44  topper theme handles.


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I want some also!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 02, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
I have had mine about a week now sitting in the kitchen, hope I have time to open it someday.🤔
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 02, 2017, 04:11:38 PM
You bet,i think they will be fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 02, 2017, 05:32:57 PM
Need to do paperwork now hope to have it built tonight still in my car...
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 02, 2017, 05:46:14 PM

Need to do paperwork now hope to have it built tonight still in my car...
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Come on man!!![emoji3]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 02, 2017, 05:46:59 PM
I stopped by both my aces and lowes, no ones got it out yet


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 02, 2017, 05:55:34 PM
I bet your like a kid at Christmas right now.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 02, 2017, 07:11:45 PM
Need to do paperwork now hope to have it built tonight still in my car...
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@Shoestringshop , brilliant!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 02, 2017, 08:05:05 PM

Need to do paperwork now hope to have it built tonight still in my car...
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Come on man!!![emoji3]


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Will do ASAP. Don’t want to put the legs on wrong. Lmao 😂
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: chiku18 on November 03, 2017, 10:35:03 AM
Now on the weber page for buy it now

https://www.weber.com/US/en/grills/original-kettle-limited-edition-grill-1

along with Special T-Shirt

https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/red-kettle-limited-edition-t-shirt
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 03, 2017, 10:39:43 AM
The t-shirt is missing the beautiful taco handle.  Quick, buy now!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 03, 2017, 11:49:36 AM
Now on the weber page for buy it now

https://www.weber.com/US/en/grills/original-kettle-limited-edition-grill-1

along with Special T-Shirt

https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/red-kettle-limited-edition-t-shirt

It should have been get a free t-shirt with purchase. A small cost due to the inconvenience of not getting the mastertouch grates and warming rack
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 03, 2017, 12:01:04 PM
...
along with Special T-Shirt

https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/red-kettle-limited-edition-t-shirt

Dang, I wish it had no text, no logo.

At SOME point, they need to consider only the red-kettle-grill-image to be iconic enough. Apple did it years ago with ... an apple with a bite taken out. But Weber's thinking is weirdly, "Could be anyone's, so let's clearly identify it!"

Really?

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: chiku18 on November 03, 2017, 12:17:46 PM
...
along with Special T-Shirt

https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/red-kettle-limited-edition-t-shirt

Dang, I wish it had no text, no logo.

At SOME point, they need to consider only the red-kettle-grill-image to be iconic enough. Apple did it years ago with ... an apple with a bite taken out. But Weber's thinking is weirdly, "Could be anyone's, so let's clearly identify it!"

Really?

Somewhat like this
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/weber-for-life-t-shirt
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 03, 2017, 01:05:20 PM
Somewhat like this
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/weber-for-life-t-shirt

Except for the text and logo I specifically said I don't want, yeah.

Like these!
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 03, 2017, 01:34:42 PM
I guess i can't buy it!!..Think America only.....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on November 03, 2017, 01:48:04 PM
I wish they would have put the thermo through the lid vent somehow.  That is were we all want it!  Or between the vent and the lip of the lid would be sweet too.    Ordered mine today!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 03, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
Somewhat like this
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/weber-for-life-t-shirt

Except for the text and logo I specifically said I don't want, yeah.

Like these!
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/

My sister has a cricut machine and was able to print out a weber grill for me on iron on vinyl. I have yet to put it on a shirt but the machine is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on November 03, 2017, 03:26:46 PM

I guess i can't buy it!!..Think America only.....

Dickson Barbecue in Toronto shows them on their main page.

I realize your in Sarnia (I've actually Been there), so I'm assuming you can buy them other places in Canada.

If not maybe we could make a trade for a Canada available kettle.

Red


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 03, 2017, 03:34:36 PM
Hey Red, ya i can get the kettle at my Weber dealer, i was talking about the shirt's and hat's from weber,for some reason it won't let me order...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 03, 2017, 05:33:00 PM
Open and built!!!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 03, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
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And the the built grill...


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 03, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 03, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Congrats brother.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 03, 2017, 07:31:46 PM
Oh my God, beautiful!
If that "3" is some sort of numbering of the limited edition...damn!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 03, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
Are you gonna cook on it?
I'm dying to know if if it changes color


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 03, 2017, 07:39:51 PM
I was wondering that too. Did he get the 3rd grill off the line?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on November 03, 2017, 08:31:35 PM
I’m guessing the “3” is a QC/inspection marking.  Thinking the serial number will contain an approximate production number(?).


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on November 03, 2017, 10:22:00 PM
These look really nice and I understand the enthusiasm but as I follow the story the past few months, it is clear Weber has created a huge build up in anticipation and demand for this red grill. Now that these grills are being sold everywhere I am thinking that if I wait maybe I can get a Lowes floor model at a discount sometime early next year when they clear out space for lawnmowers. The factories in China must be working overtime getting these out. I bought a red limited edition Q3200 from ACE a few years ago, they sold so many of them for so long time that it was no big deal to have one. Weber sells different color kettles all over the world but limits the selection in the USA.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 03, 2017, 10:49:54 PM
That looks great!  I'm excited to get mine. Some new goodies are on the way, too. Coal baskets, chimney, drip pans, burger press, and a Grillaholics utensil set that is red, black and SS.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: AnotherPintPlease on November 04, 2017, 04:18:24 AM
Congrats, @Shoestringshop, she looks amazing!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 04, 2017, 05:02:51 AM
That’s a beaut! Mine is coming next week direct from Weber along with a Topper hat.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 04, 2017, 05:55:24 AM
@Shoestringshop Does the temp gauge mount the same way as the normal ones?  Are there any extra holes?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Ted B on November 04, 2017, 06:00:57 AM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 04, 2017, 06:01:15 AM
@josh g the same as any other

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 04, 2017, 06:02:16 AM
If they were made in the US, i might be on board but sorry just can't do it.....    @Craig   ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 04, 2017, 06:02:51 AM
If they were made in the US, i might be on board but sorry just can't do it.....    @Craig   ;)

OH and the taco handle...PShaw
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 04, 2017, 06:08:13 AM

If they were made in the US, i might be on board but sorry just can't do it.....    @Craig   ;)

What comes to mind when picturing someone that uses this argument about where something is made.... though I know this is NOT what lightningboldtz looks like, just sounds like it... [emoji14]





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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 04, 2017, 06:20:16 AM
I don't see it that way at all, Craig.

I just see a person's house, that's already filled with foreign-made products or engineered by people from somewhere else. Lines can be arbitrarily drawn, which is what makes them so easy to create.

In my economics classes we often talked about Opportunity Cost, a basic construct of financial decision making. What we seldom discussed were the philosophical and ideological costs, which are often higher than any of the ones that involve money!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 04, 2017, 06:21:37 AM
This came up as a suggested add on sale with the red grill....




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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 04, 2017, 07:35:19 AM
I need that trucker cap!  Can you buy it separately? If not someone please buy one and I’ll pay you for it.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on November 04, 2017, 07:44:10 AM

@kettlebb - You can buy them on the Weber website. 

https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Martin75 on November 04, 2017, 08:34:25 AM
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I happened to walk in to Ace Hardware today and look what I saw. 
Price is excelent by us is this new color a little bit expensiv - 9000 CZK - its about 430 USD :(
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on November 04, 2017, 08:38:08 AM

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I pick mine up on Wednesday next week.   


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cumminfourya on November 04, 2017, 10:05:10 AM
They sure are nice in person. The one ACE I went to only had two. The floor model and one in the box [emoji848][emoji50]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 04, 2017, 10:29:27 AM
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Longest grill name ever.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 04, 2017, 10:36:13 AM
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Longest grill name ever.


Lol "ROKLEPG" for short.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 04, 2017, 11:16:22 AM

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Longest grill name ever.


Lol "ROKLEPG" for short.

Lmao!!  That is a long grill description. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 04, 2017, 11:23:00 AM
I’d change it to Red Limited Edition Premium Kettle Grill. Not much original there. If they made a new red $99 OTS I might consider it.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 04, 2017, 11:34:05 AM
Congrats, @Shoestringshop, she looks amazing!
I agree, psyched for you!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 04, 2017, 11:46:02 AM
I’d change it to Red Limited Edition Premium Kettle Grill. Not much original there. If they made a new red $99 OTS I might consider it.


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I would take out Limited Edition too.  ;)  More of these will be made than reg. black MT or OTS if they sell well, but I doubt it. But, I am confident I could still walk into any bbq store next year and get one if I wanted.

Anyone know how many of these Red are being produced?  There has to be cut off if they are limited edition.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on November 04, 2017, 11:49:13 AM
Based on the pics it is black on the inside. I agree Weber should offer additional colors on the OTS for its loyal customers. If they can offer the Q1200 in multiple colors why not the kettle. I see people paying $500 for kettles from Europe with colors that you cannot get in the USA. This should not be. Get with it Weber we are not stupid.  As for this limited red model if $199 makes you happy then that is a small price to pay for happiness. It will make a great Christmas gift. The Weber partners are smiling all the way to the bank making us happy but so what they have a good product.  This grill would also be great to put away unopened to leave to your grandchildren who can sell it to a future Kettle collector
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: iCARRY on November 04, 2017, 03:03:34 PM
Is it me or is the lid bale the old style? Looks like the lid doesn’t go all the way back.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 04, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
Is it me or is the lid bale the old style? Looks like the lid doesn’t go all the way back.


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Pretty sure the lid bales that go deeper are only on the performers.  The MT ones are standard.  Might have something to do with the grill tipping over.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cumminfourya on November 04, 2017, 03:39:33 PM
I noticed if the grill lid is positioned how I would have it, when you got to tip it back the top vent will hit. And it will not allow it to go all the way back. Either way though, idc!!! I just want it [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 04, 2017, 03:54:37 PM
The local store that I requested one from has the cojones to sell it for $229... I thought that was with tax or something st first and they corrected me... That is + tax.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lightning on November 04, 2017, 04:31:22 PM

I guess i can't buy it!!..Think America only.....

Dickson Barbecue in Toronto shows them on their main page.

I realize your in Sarnia (I've actually Been there), so I'm assuming you can buy them other places in Canada.

If not maybe we could make a trade for a Canada available kettle.

Red


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If it's a US only product, he's in an ideal location since all he's got to do is cross the Blue Water Bridge and go to the nearest American Weber dealer.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 04, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
The local store that I requested one from has the cojones to sell it for $229... I thought that was with tax or something st first and they corrected me... That is + tax.

If you want to buy it, show them any number of other places that will put it in your car for $199

Just curious, but which retailer is this?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 04, 2017, 05:01:22 PM
The local store that I requested one from has the cojones to sell it for $229... I thought that was with tax or something st first and they corrected me... That is + tax.

If you want to buy it, show them any number of other places that will put it in your car for $199

Just curious, but which retailer is this?

It was a place about 45 min away from me when we all thought these would be a limited item and the big box stores/amazon wouldn't be getting them. I was there once when I first got into grilling and they stock all the Weber accessories and such, it's a fancy mom&pop place I think, in suburbs of Philadelphia, Pa. The Lowes and Home Depot are 5 min down the road.. so it's not really worth the effort to drive all the way there anyway.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: iCARRY on November 04, 2017, 05:06:26 PM
Is it me or is the lid bale the old style? Looks like the lid doesn’t go all the way back.


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Pretty sure the lid bales that go deeper are only on the performers.  The MT ones are standard.  Might have something to do with the grill tipping over.
Makes sense. I only have older performers and never really looked at the master touch. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on November 05, 2017, 07:23:53 AM
I’d change it to Red Limited Edition Premium Kettle Grill. Not much original there. If they made a new red $99 OTS I might consider it.


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I would take out Limited Edition too.  ;)  More of these will be made than reg. black MT or OTS if they sell well, but I doubt it. But, I am confident I could still walk into any bbq store next year and get one if I wanted.

Anyone know how many of these Red are being produced?  There has to be cut off if they are limited edition.

I called a local True Value Hardware store that stocks a lot of the Weber line, though mostly the more expensive gassers. He had never heard of it and initially thought I was talking about crimson. He looked it up in the True Value inventory system and found them. It said that 206 would be in stock and available for him to order next week. Now, I don't know if that's corporate wide or if that's just in the nearest regional distribution center.
I agree that they are making more of these than we anticipated, but I don't see them making more reds than blacks.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mhiszem on November 05, 2017, 08:10:33 AM
Looking forward to seeing more pics of these. Congrats on everyone that has gotten one so far.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 05, 2017, 08:28:45 AM
What are the chances that if sales go well for these we will see another limited edition grill in a different color?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 05, 2017, 08:45:37 AM
... I agree that they are making more of these than we anticipated, but I don't see them making more reds than blacks.

You're surely correct.

The way retailing normally works is that re-orders happen automatically, based on the initial product decision that happened whenever the thing became available. Any retailer who didn't realize, didn't pay attention to, nor didn't care about the Limited Edition Red's announcement wouldn't be carrying/stocking it *ever* unless some Grillfella taps them on the shoulder.

That alone will severely limit its distribution, and in a practical sense, "availability." Weber must know this. Good luck with those future craigslist searches!

Just consider the green/copper/crimson 22.5" kettles. In the spring, your H-D or Lowe's might have a display that shows the colored lids. Same with the colored Q1200's. They have a placard that says they can be special ordered, just in case your AMAZON is broken? And by summertime, that display is gone, and "so are the colored kettles" effectively.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 05, 2017, 08:57:38 AM
What are the chances that if sales go well for these we will see another limited edition grill in a different color?

I don't really see it translating into other colors such as what Europe has been offered. Extra colors require more distribution and support than Weber really cares about for the U.S. market. The marketing effort for this grill amounts to a temporary push that'll soon fade, just as with the green/copper/crimson 22.5" kettles that must really "sell themselves."

Notice that our existing "colored" models are NOT the true "premium" models, only the (black) Master-Touch is.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Big Dawg on November 05, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
Sadly, I have to agree with @addicted-to-smoke.  I personally don't understand it. They're already making the stuff.  They're already warehousing the stuff.  They even have a website where they do customer direct sales.  Seems like a slam dunk to me.

But then, that's probably why I'm going to retire on a small gov't pension and I'm not running a big company with loads of international sales.

Either way, even though I'm not a collector like most of the rest of you, I have decided to pull the trigger and order one on Amazon.  I love cooking on my 26er and don't anticipate any changes there.  Not sure when I'll even open the box.





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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 05, 2017, 04:50:15 PM
My new goodies are ready to go. Just waiting on the new red kettle.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 05, 2017, 07:43:35 PM
My new goodies are ready to go. Just waiting on the new red kettle.

Sorry, I'm afraid that's not gonna work here.

Many Ace Hardware stores still have some Weber tools in R.E.D.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 05, 2017, 07:59:59 PM
My new goodies are ready to go. Just waiting on the new red kettle.

Sorry, I'm afraid that's not gonna work here.

Many Ace Hardware stores still have some Weber tools in R.E.D.

(https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/077924/077924031298.jpg)

Those look great! Nice match with the new grill.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 06, 2017, 07:54:08 AM
How has no one cooked on one yet!?!
I'm dying to know if it changes color


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 06, 2017, 08:42:34 AM

How has no one cooked on one yet!?!
I'm dying to know if it changes color


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They do! Someone posted one HOT on one of the FB groups on Sunday. Sorry I don’t have a link at the moment.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: weldboy on November 06, 2017, 09:13:52 AM
Yep they color change!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 06, 2017, 10:23:28 AM
For gods sake, someone get a picture up!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nolch01 on November 06, 2017, 10:38:15 AM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 06, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
YES!!!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 06, 2017, 11:26:06 AM
Is it me or is the lid bale the old style? Looks like the lid doesn’t go all the way back.


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Pretty sure the lid bales that go deeper are only on the performers.  The MT ones are standard.  Might have something to do with the grill tipping over.
Makes sense. I only have older performers and never really looked at the master touch. 


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Dsorgnzd on November 06, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
FWIW, they're in the Ace Hardware Black Friday ad.
http://blackfriday.gottadeal.com/BlackFridayScans/AceHardware/5
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 06, 2017, 12:03:04 PM
and Ace's coupons exclude Weber (no surprise there.)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cumminfourya on November 06, 2017, 05:56:33 PM
Lowe’s has them in stock also

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 06, 2017, 11:58:04 PM
Very exclusive
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: blksabbath on November 07, 2017, 02:36:50 AM
I saw one at ACE yesterday.  I was underwhelmed.  It just seems a bit thrown together and generic.  Just changing wheels to classic whitewalls would help...or limited edition redwalls.  I dunno.  I’ll wait to get one on clearance next fall or on CL.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: toolhead on November 07, 2017, 07:08:36 AM
i think this is a great lookong kettle...any idea on the production run volume?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mark Schnell on November 07, 2017, 07:54:43 AM
I saw one at ACE yesterday.  I was underwhelmed.  It just seems a bit thrown together and generic.  Just changing wheels to classic whitewalls would help...or limited edition redwalls.  I dunno.  I’ll wait to get one on clearance next fall or on CL.


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I agree about the wheels. Why go cheap on the wheels after all the anticipation. After seeing that there are stacks of them at Home Depots and Lowes stores, yeah, they'll be around for clearance sales.  8)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on November 07, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
I saw one at ACE yesterday.

Which ACE?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 07, 2017, 08:19:23 AM
I think Weber needs to make a matching Smokey Joe.  I would grab that for $40
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 07, 2017, 08:45:52 AM
Anyone want mine for $170 NIB? It would have to be a local pick up.  I already paid for mine and really am trying to pare back.  I'm kinda sore at the initial marketing of this grill.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lowbrass on November 07, 2017, 08:59:35 AM
I think Weber needs to make a matching Smokey Joe.  I would grab that for $40

+1
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 07, 2017, 10:53:48 AM
Will (@noreaster) just picked his up and it's pretty damn sexy!
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 07, 2017, 11:19:18 AM
A little too close to the edge fellas. That thing needs a life preserver.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: toolhead on November 07, 2017, 12:45:29 PM
yeah..not sure about all the dislikes about this grill..but fir me...its a tight lookong model..basically master touch in perfect red color...with upgraded therm bezel.

theres everything to like aboit this le red
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 07, 2017, 12:51:11 PM
I like it. I like the wheels too. I confused where this kettle is made. I remember reading something about China. Are they made and coated there or just coated or neither?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: toolhead on November 07, 2017, 12:58:56 PM
not sure...think its std weber manu partners...amazon q and a section has weber replies about intl manu partner etc.

looking again at this pic...for me..its the best looking kettle weber has put out....MT in perfect red.

also lile how weber dumped the accessories to keep the price at 199....dumped the warming rack/crappy gbs grates and i have plenty of baskets..so id rather have the base price low..without the added gizmos...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: toolhead on November 07, 2017, 01:01:13 PM
im likimg them blacked out wheels too...gives it a beefier wheel look..all blacked out
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 07, 2017, 01:19:25 PM
im likimg them blacked out wheels too...gives it a beefier wheel look..all blacked out

I'm loving the return of the black ash catcher pot. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: toolhead on November 07, 2017, 02:04:47 PM
yeah..the all black wheels trim out perfectly with the black pot and handle kits.

weber outdid themselves with this model.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: brewtownbeatdown on November 07, 2017, 02:45:15 PM
Weber put the history of the “red” kettle on their website.
https://www.weber.com/US/en/blog/remember-the-weber-red-kettles?utm_source=americas%20update%20list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=red-kettle-2017
Kinda cool that they spent the time to put it out there.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on November 07, 2017, 02:52:54 PM

I like it. I like the wheels too. I confused where this kettle is made. I remember reading something about China. Are they made and coated there or just coated or neither?


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Am I wrong in saying that after 2008 kettle lid vents no longer state Made in USA?

Chinese Weber kettles are nothing new.




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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 07, 2017, 03:44:42 PM
Oy.

Some PARTS aren't made here, enough such that Weber can no longer put that on the machine. What's different about this kettle is that this true red requires cadmium, and Americans decided for safer water or air or something, instead of the ability to do it here.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on November 07, 2017, 03:53:55 PM
I'd really like to know what parts of any kettle are still Made in the USA?


The reality of colored metals is that bright non earth tones like red, blue and yellow are much more expensive Vs. black, grey etc.. Look at new cars, red is quite often a 5-600+ option.

Additionally after the Fukushima disaster many pigments have increased in price because the vast majority were coming from close to the disaster epicenter.

Colors are more expensive in general.

Red


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on November 07, 2017, 04:08:08 PM
I would also be shocked to find the Weber is using Cadmium based porcelain, there are other options that are non toxic though they may not be as durable.

Red


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on November 07, 2017, 04:45:26 PM
Harris addressed this topic very early in this thread.  I believe his source of information is Weber Corporate. @HoosierKettle   @bigredmf

Pre-orders are now because it is not being made here (Far East). Made there because of environmental issues for the bright red finish.  I would pre-order..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 07, 2017, 05:25:32 PM
Weber put the history of the “red” kettle on their website.
https://www.weber.com/US/en/blog/remember-the-weber-red-kettles?utm_source=americas%20update%20list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=red-kettle-2017
Kinda cool that they spent the time to put it out there.

Thanks for that link. Even after I knew about it I still couldn't easily find it later navigating from the home page. I agree with the writer that Hunter Pink is kinda orangey-red. This new kettle is a deeper, truer red. (That appeals to me quite a lot.) No mention of Red Mist however.

You see that blog entry, @Craig?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 07, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
There's some good reading on their blog.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: blksabbath on November 08, 2017, 03:02:28 AM

I saw one at ACE yesterday.

Which ACE?
Manchester near Brentwood.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 08, 2017, 04:45:51 AM

I guess i can't buy it!!..Think America only.....

Dickson Barbecue in Toronto shows them on their main page.

I realize your in Sarnia (I've actually Been there), so I'm assuming you can buy them other places in Canada.

If not maybe we could make a trade for a Canada available kettle.

Red


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If it's a US only product, he's in an ideal location since all he's got to do is cross the Blue Water Bridge and go to the nearest American Weber dealer.
Barbecue World & Barbecues Galore in Canada already stated that they have them(or will be getting them). It isn't US only.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 08, 2017, 05:47:50 AM

I saw one at ACE yesterday.

Which ACE?
Manchester near Brentwood.

Oh yeah, Westlake gives Rick's good competition for the "fancy Ace" crown. Do they display the Summit Charcoal, like Rick's does?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 08, 2017, 07:16:21 AM
Would love to see the new red next to an older red. Anyone have both?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 08, 2017, 08:55:07 AM
Would love to see the new red next to an older red. Anyone have both?

There's a non-compete clause posted about 30 pages back. Basically, it just says that if you have an older one, you're not allowed to like the new one well enough to commit to a purchase.  ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 08, 2017, 10:49:58 AM

Weber put the history of the “red” kettle on their website.
https://www.weber.com/US/en/blog/remember-the-weber-red-kettles?utm_source=americas%20update%20list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=red-kettle-2017
Kinda cool that they spent the time to put it out there.

Thanks for that link. Even after I knew about it I still couldn't easily find it later navigating from the home page. I agree with the writer that Hunter Pink is kinda orangey-red. This new kettle is a deeper, truer red. (That appeals to me quite a lot.) No mention of Red Mist however.

You see that blog entry, @Craig?


I saw that. Thanks for the tag. It was a sweet read.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 08, 2017, 10:54:06 AM
Meanwhile, back here at the Craiger compound....... this happened... It even came complete with a vintage looking distress gash in the lid... Thanks to Weber’s top notch CS, replacement red lid is on its way. FedEx guy set the box sideways.....




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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 08, 2017, 11:45:16 AM
Craig that is unreal, that's what we get for letting Trump send these Red grills to China......
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 08, 2017, 11:56:53 AM
Sorry to see that Craig - but hey, at least you get a bonus cool limited edition thermo surround and summit vent tab for use on another grill :)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 08, 2017, 11:58:20 AM
Sorry to see that Craig - but hey, at least you get a bonus cool limited edition thermo surround and summit vent tab for use on another grill :)

I am sure he will have to transfer that over, THANKS TO TRUMP...........    :o
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 08, 2017, 12:13:48 PM
This new red may now be the brightest red I own. It’s brighter than my red G1 MT and my red SS for sure. I’ll need to put it up next to my 1979 and my 1981 red to be sure but this is very fire engine red. Color wise, Weber knocked it right out of the park with this one! Of course I had to swap out the grate with a gourmet grate system.




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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 08, 2017, 01:32:07 PM
Look's great!!.Love the hat!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 08, 2017, 02:42:37 PM
Wow that is bright!  Looks Great!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mcgolden on November 08, 2017, 02:55:00 PM
My local Lowes had a bunch in stock. I bought a $40 off $200 coupon code off eBay hoping it didn't t have exclusions for Weber. Surprisingly it didn't and I got $40 off. Had to add a box of starter cubes to my online purchase to get my total purchase over $200. But ordered during lunch and picked it up on my way home from work.


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Just took it out of the box to check it out and make sure it's okay. It's like a friggin time capsule. The red is awesome.

Really remind me of this big boy at the Weber offices.



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 08, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Man I've been back and forth on whether to get this or not. Your post here is pushing me towards it. The fact that you have cool old kettles and this new one still trips your trigger is speaking to me. Congrats, it does look great - no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mcgolden on November 08, 2017, 03:43:40 PM

Man I've been back and forth on whether to get this or not. Your post here is pushing me towards it. The fact that you have cool old kettles and this new one still trips your trigger is speaking to me. Congrats, it does look great - no doubt about it.


I was unsure too by once I saw it, I was sold!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 08, 2017, 05:02:45 PM
Sorry to see that Craig - but hey, at least you get a bonus cool limited edition thermo surround and summit vent tab for use on another grill :)

I am sure he will have to transfer that over, THANKS TO TRUMP...........    :o

For sure the vent tab will come with the replacement lid. As for the thermo, normally, on other new kettles comes separate from the lid assy., to be installed by the user. So, no thermo on the replacement. But this SE Red comes with the Thermo assy already installed on the lid.... so it may come with it too on your replacement lid. Just a thought!


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 08, 2017, 05:23:42 PM
A little surprised some of you have pulled the trigger for yourselves already. Each person has their own reasons for this-or-that. I don't know why, and this is a weird thing to say but I'm actually hoping to be surprised this year for Xmas with this grill.

No one's asked or anything, but I've "liked" or shared a couple Weber FB announcements and I know my family sees that stuff, so long as they don't scroll past my political posts too fast LOL.

And if not, it'll be a something I hope to get for myself.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 08, 2017, 05:37:05 PM
YouTube review.  First real footage I've seen from a consumer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdAS2xX-Mc
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 08, 2017, 05:46:01 PM
I'm going with my friend tomorrow to pick up his. If it looks good , I'll bring one home as well.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mcgolden on November 08, 2017, 05:52:44 PM

I'm going with my friend tomorrow to pick up his. If it looks good , I'll bring one home as well.

Pretty sure you'll be bringing one home. [emoji57]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 08, 2017, 11:50:33 PM
Nice pics guys!  My assembled pics coming in about a week time.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 09, 2017, 09:42:39 AM

I'm going with my friend tomorrow to pick up his. If it looks good , I'll bring one home as well.

Pretty sure you'll be bringing one home. [emoji57]


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Well, I didn't bring it home today, but my friend bought 2. It looks friggin gorgeous. I'll be picking one up before the end of the month.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 09, 2017, 09:48:08 AM
So here's a question. Is the whole thing made in China?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 09, 2017, 09:53:52 AM

I'm going with my friend tomorrow to pick up his. If it looks good , I'll bring one home as well.

Pretty sure you'll be bringing one home. (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji57.png)


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Well, I didn't bring it home today, but my friend bought 2. It looks friggin gorgeous. I'll be picking one up before the end of the month.


They're pretty damn stunning in person for sure.  Actually exceeding expectations.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 09, 2017, 12:23:17 PM
Not a good thing. My friend opened the box and found a 6" chunk of enamel missing from the rim. The box was in great shape.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 09, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171109/15cfa74bc26067904af27940b4308466.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 09, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
Ouch! 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on November 09, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
For those who get damaged lids, if the replacement lid comes with a thermo I would be ok interested in a thermo
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 09, 2017, 01:17:41 PM
For those who get damaged lids, if the replacement lid comes with a thermo I would be ok interested in a thermo

A Limited Edition black kettle would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on November 09, 2017, 04:31:41 PM
For those who get damaged lids, if the replacement lid comes with a thermo I would be ok interested in a thermo

A Limited Edition black kettle would be hilarious.
Limited edition sj [emoji23] [emoji6]
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Speedster on November 09, 2017, 06:50:39 PM
Hunt for the red October


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on November 11, 2017, 12:17:47 PM
I picked up mine today.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/1a9296544ed30e76e261f59b27bcf763.jpg)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 11, 2017, 12:27:00 PM
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She’s tucked safely away till my house remodel is done


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 11, 2017, 12:44:34 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 11, 2017, 01:28:17 PM
Right there with ya


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 11, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
How many reds do ya got Lawrence?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 11, 2017, 02:33:49 PM
How many reds do ya got Lawrence?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 11, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
Right there with you. Have 6 and need to offload a couple for some different color. Must admit. Hate the taco but the new red looks cool.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: fedex on November 11, 2017, 03:04:19 PM
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I tried that.  Didn't work.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: andy285 on November 11, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
Just heard these are made in china... I'm out

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on November 11, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
In case anyone is interested, there is a LE built and in front of the local ACE Hardware Store in Blackhawk, CA. Sorry but i fondled it Weinstien style because it was dangerously close to a 26-er that i was also fondling.  Seriously, though, i think someone dropped the dome or the bowl on the red LE because fit was EXTREMELY POOR and worthy of a discount to the discerning buyer.

Grate was not stainless but chrome plated...  What???

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 11, 2017, 08:01:21 PM
Just heard these are made in china... I'm out

"Made in" is a legal definition of parts count percentage.

Some parts are U.S. sourced, some not, and the non-U.S. parts are not all Chinese in origin.

This kettle is one of them. And it's been that way for several years.

With Canadian steel formed in Illinois, would we simply say the thing is "Made In Canada?" Doesn't matter. At least we now know there will be at least one more of these available for folks that want one.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 11, 2017, 08:11:43 PM
In case anyone is interested, there is a LE built and in front of the local ACE Hardware Store in Blackhawk, CA. Sorry but i fondled it Weinstien style because it was dangerously close to a 26-er that i was also fondling.  Seriously, though, i think someone dropped the dome or the bowl on the red LE because fit was EXTREMELY POOR and worthy of a discount to the discerning buyer.

Grate was not stainless but chrome plated...  What???

For the price increase, it would be nice if they included their SS grate. But no 22.5" model sold in the U.S. comes with an SS grate.

All current-era 22.5 bowls bend easily compared to the old ones.

This thing is red and gorgeous, but no worse than any other model they sell in another color today.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on November 11, 2017, 08:19:11 PM
But no 22.5" model sold in the U.S. comes with an SS grate.

So my Performer Deluxe is unique?  ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 12, 2017, 04:32:32 AM
Just heard these are made in china... I'm out

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You don't own anything else made in China???
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on November 12, 2017, 04:50:43 AM
From the Pics it is black on the inside. Weber is slick with this LE.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 12, 2017, 05:49:58 AM
But no 22.5" model sold in the U.S. comes with an SS grate.

So my Performer Deluxe is unique?  ;)

You might say, "one of a kind," but hey, aren't they all? The Deluxe is advertised as including the GBS grate, plated steel ... just as with the Master-Touch or when sold separately.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 12, 2017, 05:52:43 AM
From the Pics it is black on the inside. Weber is slick with this LE.

How is that different than the rest?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Dsorgnzd on November 12, 2017, 08:11:24 AM
I saw one in my local Lowe's this morning. I spent maybe 30 seconds looking at it since I was there to buy something else. It looked nice, but I wouldn't spend the money to buy one. I saw the Hope Diamond once, kinda the same thing. I can appreciate it, but that doesn't mean I'd want to own it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on November 12, 2017, 09:10:10 AM
forgot that i already replied. sorry.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Malo83 on November 12, 2017, 11:27:51 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171109/15cfa74bc26067904af27940b4308466.jpg)

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Just got back from looking at one in my local Lowes, the display model had a 3" chunk of paint missing from the lid also.  :(
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 12, 2017, 12:12:49 PM

Just got back from looking at one in my local Lowes, the display model had a 3" chunk of paint missing from the lid also.  :(

One more instance and it becomes a feature, not a bug.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 13, 2017, 05:47:32 AM
Fellas since Lowes sells this, I went to a coupon generator site and was able to get $40 off a $200 purchase when I added a rub to my order.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 13, 2017, 06:36:25 AM
I'm pretty disappointed in mine. The bowl is chipped and there are bubbles and pits all over the lid. I preordered from my local BBQ supply store and won't take it back to them since they did me a favor and ordered it for me. I reached out to Weber CS to see what they can do. My local Lowes has 27 in stock at the moment. Wish I new they were they were going to be so available. I would have just waited for Lowes to get them and check the kettles for flaws or damage before purchasing it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 13, 2017, 06:48:47 AM
I'm pretty disappointed in mine. The bowl is chipped and there are bubbles and pits all over the lid. I preordered from my local BBQ supply store and won't take it back to them since they did me a favor and ordered it for me. I reached out to Weber CS to see what they can do. My local Lowes has 27 in stock at the moment. Wish I new they were they were going to be so available. I would have just waited for Lowes to get them and check the kettles for flaws or damage before purchasing it.

Do you have any pics?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 13, 2017, 07:02:05 AM
I'm pretty disappointed in mine. The bowl is chipped and there are bubbles and pits all over the lid. I preordered from my local BBQ supply store and won't take it back to them since they did me a favor and ordered it for me. I reached out to Weber CS to see what they can do. My local Lowes has 27 in stock at the moment. Wish I new they were they were going to be so available. I would have just waited for Lowes to get them and check the kettles for flaws or damage before purchasing it.

Do you have any pics?
Here's a few. They are everywhere.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/9f739922da29507b3e2ea153c83d93e8.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/b88b3c05577919b62a2b3835e1142614.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 13, 2017, 07:48:37 AM
Baby back maniac just made a video on this. His was chipped at the same spot. Did you do the assembly?  He hadn’t.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 13, 2017, 09:05:50 AM
Baby back maniac just made a video on this. His was chipped at the same spot. Did you do the assembly?  He hadn’t.


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The ash sweeps come pre-assembled.  I opened the box, saw the damage and imperfections, took pics and put everything back in the box.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 13, 2017, 09:12:22 AM
I understand the aspect of Made in USA that it takes jobs away from US workers.. Made in china doesn't mean that it was made with bad quality, rather that the US business decided to go cheaper and not pay the american work wages. If a chinese product is inferior that means that they were told to make it inferior with cheaper products.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 13, 2017, 09:15:57 AM
I'm pretty disappointed in mine. The bowl is chipped and there are bubbles and pits all over the lid. I preordered from my local BBQ supply store and won't take it back to them since they did me a favor and ordered it for me. I reached out to Weber CS to see what they can do. My local Lowes has 27 in stock at the moment. Wish I new they were they were going to be so available. I would have just waited for Lowes to get them and check the kettles for flaws or damage before purchasing it.

Do you have any pics?
Here's a few. They are everywhere.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/9f739922da29507b3e2ea153c83d93e8.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/b88b3c05577919b62a2b3835e1142614.jpg)

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I have my box sitting in my car that I was going to delay opening for 10 years or so.. it now looks like I have to open it up and check it out.  My question is... Is the red porcelain missing off the grill but in the box, like a packaging issue? Or is the pieces of red nowhere to be found?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on November 13, 2017, 11:12:06 AM
Anyways........how about those new Limited Edition grills?  I assembled mine over the weekend and it is beautiful.  I did look at my grill closely and there are a few imperfections on the bowl itself but I am not to worried about it.  It has a 10 year warranty if I have an issue later. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mhiszem on November 13, 2017, 12:47:59 PM
Cue the new weber commercial:  https://youtu.be/2VrtPFpaNow (https://youtu.be/2VrtPFpaNow)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 13, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
I removed a bunch of nonsense and borderline racist stuff.


Lets keep this discussion about the grill.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 13, 2017, 01:08:59 PM
I used the $40 off at Lowes that @mcgolden referred me to last week and it worked perfectly.  I did it online so cannot verify if they are still working in the store. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 13, 2017, 02:35:51 PM
I went to Lowe’s today for work and took a look at the grill section. None there yet but they had the entire weber display area emptied out. I think I caught them during a reorganizing time so hopefully it will be there and on display soon.  I’m anxious to see one in person.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jules V. on November 13, 2017, 02:36:33 PM

I removed a bunch of nonsense and borderline racist stuff.


Lets keep this discussion about the grill.
Thanks.
Some of us here are Chinese.


JV
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Brain_STL on November 13, 2017, 03:14:53 PM

Just heard these are made in china... I'm out

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I just heard my tooth brush was made in China, and my lawnmower, and my tv, and my cell phone, and and and...unfortunately it’s an impossible feat to go 100% USA, but I’d do it if possible, too. But this is Grill is a beauty and I’m all in!!!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 14, 2017, 04:55:26 AM
One thing I noticed that I posted on Facebook as well.  My box which came from my local alliance dealer was retaped. When I opened it, it clearly had been opened before. The cardboard inner ears of the box had razor blade cuts across them which was not caused by me. My dealer did not open it. I went to Lowes and all 20+ of their boxes were retaped on the top. I wonder if the chips occurred when they went through customs maybe. I know the poor finish is another story. Perhaps the kettles are painted overseas, boxed up and shipped to the US where all of the accessories are added and reboxed.  Just a uneducated guess.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 14, 2017, 06:41:43 AM
One thing I noticed that I posted on Facebook as well.  My box which came from my local alliance dealer was retaped. When I opened it, it clearly had been opened before. The cardboard inner ears of the box had razor blade cuts across them which was not caused by me. My dealer did not open it. I went to Lowes and all 20+ of their boxes were retaped on the top. I wonder if the chips occurred when they went through customs maybe. I know the poor finish is another story. Perhaps the kettles are painted overseas, boxed up and shipped to the US where all of the accessories are added and reboxed.  Just a uneducated guess.

I'm sure it was customs.  My grill from Germany was opened and retaped.  Surprised they do that on such a large shipment with a company.  My sony tv was not repackaged among other things I have purchased in the past. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: fedex on November 14, 2017, 06:58:18 AM
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Merry Christmas to me.  Now, where to hide it.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 14, 2017, 07:01:34 AM
... I went to Lowes and all 20+ of their boxes were retaped on the top. ...

I don't want to freak anyone out but that's a really bad sign, if retailers or a local Weber rep has been instructed to locally inspect product. As in, desperation to try and save a looming catastrophe.

There seems to be some speculation or confusion about where the finished product boxes actually ship from (Illinois or China? --- the box should indicate that, right?) but regardless, no retailer should ever be stocking opened product. Again, at that point, the country of origin is irrelevant. If this is a serious QC issue, it'll be doubly painful if many of these wind up being gifts.

The Baby Back Maniac video Troy posted on the WKC Facebook page shows Justin's new red with some flaws. Red paint chips aside, the image that worried me the most was what he showed of the grate straps: missing paint and rust?

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/14/Screen-Shot-2017-11-14-at-9.39.23-AM.png)

That strap is going to rust through the side of the kettle faster than it should. Don't forget, the porcelain paint process also applies to the inside, not just the fancy outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igIdlrAUXU

Take care out there, folks.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 14, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
The grate strap in the video bothered me the most too. Funny, because bbm seemed like that was the least of his worries.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 14, 2017, 07:22:48 AM
An update, I talked to my friend, and the bowl was damaged as well. Weber CS is sending him a new grill.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GrillGuyMosier on November 14, 2017, 07:35:11 AM
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Back to Weber you go!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: olefolks on November 14, 2017, 07:58:54 AM
Got my red LE from the Abt folks.  After all of the comments concerning condition of these grills I just opened mine up for inspection.  Both the lid and the bowl were perfect as far as I can tell. There were no chips, missed paint, etc. that I could see.
Just saying!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 14, 2017, 08:00:15 AM
I removed a bunch of nonsense and borderline racist stuff.


Lets keep this discussion about the grill.

Good call
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 14, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
I removed a bunch of nonsense and borderline racist stuff.


Lets keep this discussion about the grill.

Good call
+1
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 14, 2017, 08:05:19 AM
I removed a bunch of nonsense and borderline racist stuff.


Lets keep this discussion about the grill.

Good call
C'mon folks. That is not necessary. We're better than that.
+1
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 14, 2017, 08:10:41 AM

I removed a bunch of nonsense and borderline racist stuff.


Lets keep this discussion about the grill.
Thanks.
Some of us here are Chinese.


JV

I also appreciate the thread cleanup, and I'm not Chinese.  ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 14, 2017, 10:02:11 AM
Has anyone actually confirmed that this grill is made in China or anything otherwise different than previous grills?

And by "confirmed" what I'm looking for is something factual, not 'heard it"
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 14, 2017, 10:15:37 AM
I've contacted Weber. Still waiting for a response.

My thought was that the enamelling was done in China, but the rest of the assembly was done in Chicago.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 14, 2017, 10:25:59 AM

Has anyone actually confirmed that this grill is made in China or anything otherwise different than previous grills?

And by "confirmed" what I'm looking for is something factual, not 'heard it"
This is what I received from weber
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 14, 2017, 10:29:22 AM
Perfect, thank you @randy
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 14, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
Yikes. So all black kettles are still made here right?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 14, 2017, 10:32:52 AM
Yikes. So all black kettles are still made here right?


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and there's the first can of worms.  :-X
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 14, 2017, 11:11:11 AM
Yikes. So all black kettles are still made here right?


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I am not sure what is made where anymore.  But, I think all other kettles are made in USA, with materials and components that are sourced globally.  I avoided buying this grill, in part, because I am concerned that if this grill does well, more kettles will be made elsewhere because of labor costs, and thus less jobs will remain here.  My decision has nothing to do with worry about the quality of the product or bias against any particular country or group.  I hope that all who purchase the LE receive quality kettles and enjoy them for years.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 14, 2017, 11:20:04 AM
I bought a new red kettle and wasn't planning on opening it until spring when my house addition was completed. I have since seen all of the posts of "poor quality" i decided to open it up, the only thing i can see is a small red paint run on the inside of the lid that came through the vent lid during the painting process. Over the last 15 years or so I've had countless new and used Weber products all of witch were of astounding quality, the few times that i had a issue Weber has stepped forward with their amazing customer support. Are any of the new kettles of the same quality as those from yesteryear? No. Are today's cars constructed of the same quality as years past? No. Lighter gauge steel, bolt on handles and foreign outsourcing are sacrifices that have to be made to provide a quality product at a fair price. I'd love to have a new kettle made of the same quality and made in the USA as my '77 brownie. Am I willing to pay what that kettle would cost? NO. What i do have is a nice looking red kettle that I will enjoy for years to come (that is if my home addition is ever completed).
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 14, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
I think that's well put @randy .  I don't want to pay $200 for the new red + taco grill but that's just me.  It's probably a fine cooker.  I've only been here 2 years and there has been a lot of requests for a new red grill or for Weber to bring back the colors of old.  I think it's cool that they actually listened and followed through.  Now, if they make a new Dove Gray, Yellow, or even Copper Mist and Red Mist then I'll probably be in even with the taco.  Congrats to all the fellas getting their new red, hopefully someone starts a new thread called "LE Redhead Cook Pics".
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 14, 2017, 11:46:42 AM

Yikes. So all black kettles are still made here right?


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I am not sure what is made where anymore.  But, I think all other kettles are made in USA, with materials and components that are sourced globally.  I avoided buying this grill, in part, because I am concerned that if this grill does well, more kettles will be made elsewhere because of labor costs, and thus less jobs will remain here.  My decision has nothing to do with worry about the quality of the product or bias against any particular country or group.  I hope that all who purchase the LE receive quality kettles and enjoy them for years.

Yes. This is how feel.  It was going to happen. They had a good long run. Longer than most.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 14, 2017, 12:05:36 PM

Yikes. So all black kettles are still made here right?


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and there's the first can of worms.  :-X
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 14, 2017, 12:16:54 PM
I wonder if it’s the same factory that’s stamping out the chargriller kettleman?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 14, 2017, 12:34:45 PM
Or the Aussie Grill?

or

or

or maybe they're made from returned and broken Spirit 300 parts?

dude, yer killin' me
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on November 14, 2017, 01:00:50 PM
Just wanna say thanks for removing those remarks. I didn't see them, having not been around much lately due to real life getting in the way.

I haven't had the chance to see the grill in the flesh yet.

I'm disappointed in the number of pics of dings, dents, scrapes, and shitty coating that have shown up already. Wth.

I may not be motivated to buy one of these NVLs (Not Very Limited), but I want them to be of usual Weber high quality!

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 14, 2017, 01:54:52 PM
Okay... the Red can not be made in the USA 🇺🇸 they have no way to do the red porcelain enamel here. So it’s done in China 🇨🇳. We all of us @ WKC have wanted this for a long time. I have bought 3 of them 1 cooker 1 for the kid and 1 for the other house. As for quality mine are good, few flaws but I have bought new in USA & other countries that have had flaws.

Call Weber same warranties apply. Let’s not screw this up. They “Weber” may come up with a few more we like if we stop all the BS.

That’s my opinion anyway. And you know what they say about opinions...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: fedex on November 14, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
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Merry Christmas to me.  Now, where to hide it.

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BTW, I checked mine out at Lowe's before I even paid for it.  They didn't care at all.  Guess I got lucky mine had no flaws.  I don't care where it was made.  Very nice cooker.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 14, 2017, 02:16:07 PM

Okay... the Red can not be made in the USA [emoji631] they have no way to do the red porcelain enamel here. So it’s done in China [emoji630]. We all of us @ WKC have wanted this for a long time. I have bought 3 of them 1 cooker 1 for the kid and 1 for the other house. As for quality mine are good, few flaws but I have bought new in USA & other countries that have had flaws.

Call Weber same warranties apply. Let’s not screw this up. They “Weber” may come up with a few more we like if we stop all the BS.

That’s my opinion anyway. And you know what they say about opinions...
YES!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 14, 2017, 03:18:41 PM
Amazon shipped mine today.  Should be here on Friday.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 14, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
I truly hope the grills are of quality, but one last comment if I may. If bowls and lids are being manufactured over seas, then in my opinion, it’s only a matter of time before all are made there. Good or bad, they will not be the same and it closes a chapter in the weber book. I hope I am wrong.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 14, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
I put mine together today, I really like the overall look of the red and black together.  I paid extra attention to the quality of the finish and while I do see some bubbling, I have decided it will be a part of my cookers.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 14, 2017, 05:05:10 PM
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/red-kettle-limited-edition-t-shirt
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on November 15, 2017, 04:13:18 AM
https://www.weber.com/US/en/accessories/weber-gear/red-kettle-limited-edition-t-shirt


Ha. Taco-less.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 15, 2017, 04:40:15 AM
Weber responded to my email with pics asking for my home address. We'll see how it goes. I took a closer look at my bowl. There is no porcelain under the straps and on the bowl inside the leg sockets. It is already rusting.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 15, 2017, 05:38:26 AM
Weber overnighted me my replacement grill. I have to send the first one back. Weber CS tells me that there have been more than enough claims to warrant getting them back to inspect for QC. Had I gotten it used, the lid ding wouldn’t have mattered. The replacement red appears flawless AND I haven’t noticed any “under spray” like the first one. However the bowl handle strap is black where the handle itself goes but that’s been seen on countless older/vintage red as well as other color kettles. I’ll recheck the grate straps and report back shortly.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 15, 2017, 07:04:35 AM
Maybe we are getting all the first runs and there were problems that got worked out in the factory.  Either way someone should have been doing a better job inspecting these.  Going to be a lot of sad people opening their holiday presents. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 15, 2017, 09:19:49 AM
I just opened mine.  A couple things I noticed.....

The box was not opened and resealed as noted by some. 

There is some very slight (couldn't get a picture of it)speckling around the upper side of the lip.  It's light enough I may not have noticed but since there have been many issues, I am going over this sucker with a fine toothed comb.

I'm at work so I have been unboxing on breaks.  I'll add any other issues I encounter.

So far, so good though.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 15, 2017, 09:45:30 AM
I just opened mine.  A couple things I noticed.....

The box was not opened and resealed as noted by some. 

There is some very slight (couldn't get a picture of it)speckling around the upper side of the lip.  It's light enough I may not have noticed but since there have been many issues, I am going over this sucker with a fine toothed comb.

I'm at work so I have been unboxing on breaks.  I'll add any other issues I encounter.

So far, so good though.

Where was yours purchased from?  @Bubblehead
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 15, 2017, 10:05:57 AM
I just opened mine.  A couple things I noticed.....

The box was not opened and resealed as noted by some. 

There is some very slight (couldn't get a picture of it)speckling around the upper side of the lip.  It's light enough I may not have noticed but since there have been many issues, I am going over this sucker with a fine toothed comb.

I'm at work so I have been unboxing on breaks.  I'll add any other issues I encounter.

So far, so good though.

Where was yours purchased from?  @Bubblehead

I ordered it from Amazon.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 15, 2017, 01:59:39 PM
First new Weber and the major part that concerns me is the leg sockets have no paint underneath and looks like bare metal. I have never taken the legs off of any grill sommaybe this is normal but it doesn't seem like it would be. Let me know what you think. $200 doesn't seem like a lot to some people but for me this was a major purchase and kind of expected better quality. There are some small black specks and bumps here and there as well. The one photo is the new lid on an old '77 grill I have which is a touch darker.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on November 15, 2017, 02:08:53 PM
First new Weber and the major part that concerns me is the leg sockets have no paint underneath and looks like bare metal. I have never taken the legs off of any grill sommaybe this is normal but it doesn't seem like it would be. Let me know what you think. $200 doesn't seem like a lot to some people but for me this was a major purchase and kind of expected better quality. There are some small black specks and bumps here and there as well. The one photo is the new lid on an old '77 grill I have which is a touch darker.


I have many grills with overspray.  None that I can remember with bare metal where the leg sockets are though.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 15, 2017, 02:38:10 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 15, 2017, 03:39:56 PM
@ mdb240

Email those pictures to Weber. Rusty grate straps with paint missing isn't acceptable. And those sockets are a no-go also.

What I don't understand is why so many images shared here also show missing paint at the hole's edge where the One Touch sweeps go through. It's as if they used the hole as a support while painting the rest of the bowl, and the support covered up a little of the hole's edging. Even when applied properly, that area takes a ton of heat abuse and often chips.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 15, 2017, 04:07:46 PM
@addicted-to-smoke I wrote a message to Weber on Twitter so I will see how that goes. Not sure about the one touch hole and I agree. It's almost if the ash arm is supposed to be covering it up, maybe why it is preassembled in the box that way.  The leg sockets are a huge issue I think so I didn't get into too much detail with the rest of the bowl. I think the rest of the grill is black under the red so it might just be missed red and still protected by the black. The leg sockets you can tell is bare metal.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 15, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
I just cancelled my amazon order. :(
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 15, 2017, 05:00:04 PM
Mine is already on the way, so I'm hoping for the best.  The first review is in on Amazon and its not good.

https://www.amazon.com/Weber-14615001-Original-Premium-Charcoal/dp/B074BGNYQ8/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_12?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B9H0YCXJC76SSZWH970K
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 15, 2017, 05:32:30 PM
Those legs sockets will rust out in no time.  That's raw metal, metal rusts.  I am shocked at all the images coming through.  Very disappointing.  Mine is scheduled to show up tomorrow and it was too late for me to cancel my order.

Not really sure how Weber handles this one.  Do they all get sent back to China to be corrected?  Do they scrap the whole thing and spray over them in black and call it a loss?  These might actually end up being Limited Edition after all.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 15, 2017, 06:51:35 PM
Wow, I am shocked at the stuff that I am seeing, this is turning into a PR nightmare for weber.  The whole "limited edition" thing is really stupid too.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jules V. on November 15, 2017, 07:42:31 PM
Weber Original Kettle Premium Price Limited Quality Edition


JV
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 15, 2017, 08:10:17 PM
My replacement that Weber overnighted me is flawless. Looks even better with these sweet handles... nice red Weber Grill System here...





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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 15, 2017, 08:15:14 PM
How about inside the leg sockets?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 15, 2017, 08:44:40 PM
Shit, I want those handles and don't even have one of these grills.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 15, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
My ace finally got theirs in today and I'm going to go pick them over tomorrow and pick the best one take it home and put it in the rafters. Wish I could justify getting two of them


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 15, 2017, 09:13:33 PM
@craig

Those look sweet I assume zav did those I'm going to reach out to him I'd love to get the artwork for some stencils for my tumblers


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 15, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
@craig

Those look sweet I assume zav did those I'm going to reach out to him I'd love to get the artwork for some stencils for my tumblers


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 15, 2017, 10:34:11 PM
Those legs sockets will rust out in no time.  That's raw metal, metal rusts.  I am shocked at all the images coming through.  Very disappointing.  Mine is scheduled to show up tomorrow and it was too late for me to cancel my order.

Not really sure how Weber handles this one.  Do they all get sent back to China to be corrected?  Do they scrap the whole thing and spray over them in black and call it a loss?  These might actually end up being Limited Edition after all.

Looking forwards to pics of the unboxing, if warranted.  I will do the same on Friday. It sucks wondering what kind of quality you will get from Weber.  BTW, nice handles, @Craig
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on November 16, 2017, 12:24:04 AM
Those wooden handles do a lot for the taco, almost making it look vintage, even if not vintage Weber. Brian did a great job on them.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 16, 2017, 02:38:57 AM
My replacement that Weber overnighted me is flawless. Looks even better with these sweet handles... nice red Weber Grill System here...





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Looks to me like you will be cooking it up big times in the Craiger compound, yup, yup....Whhaaaaat?!?!  Cookin up the ribskies and steakies on the new weber grill system......
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on November 16, 2017, 02:40:51 AM
I think Weber is playing us for suckers on this LE grill. The hype has been enormous in recent months and everyone wants the red Christmas grill. Then they make as many as possible as fast as they can, as cheap as they can in a foreign factory and fill the stores with poorly manufactured products right before the holidays. It is had to believe people are rushing out to buy these things. This is a holiday hustle from Weber. I had ordered one from amazon but have cancelled. Going forward Weber will likely correct the manufacturing process and keep making these but without the anniversary nameplate. This LE is a gimmick to shift manufacturing to a foreign country.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 16, 2017, 03:43:47 AM


My replacement that Weber overnighted me is flawless. Looks even better with these sweet handles... nice red Weber Grill System here...





HOLY GRAILS: 1950s era Black or Custom finish 18.5 or 22.5 Kettle, Brown Go Anywhere grill.

Looks to me like you will be cooking it up big times in the Craiger compound, yup, yup....Whhaaaaat?!?!  Cookin up the ribskies and steakies on the new weber grill system......

Picker John?

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 16, 2017, 04:35:31 AM


My replacement that Weber overnighted me is flawless. Looks even better with these sweet handles... nice red Weber Grill System here...





HOLY GRAILS: 1950s era Black or Custom finish 18.5 or 22.5 Kettle, Brown Go Anywhere grill.

Looks to me like you will be cooking it up big times in the Craiger compound, yup, yup....Whhaaaaat?!?!  Cookin up the ribskies and steakies on the new weber grill system......

Picker John?

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Holy SHiiii.......!!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 16, 2017, 04:44:50 AM
Just heard back from Weber. They are shipping me a new kettle that their QA team has inspected. I'm hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 16, 2017, 04:52:41 AM

What I don't understand is why so many images shared here also show missing paint at the hole's edge where the One Touch sweeps go through. It's as if they used the hole as a support while painting the rest of the bowl, and the support covered up a little of the hole's edging. Even when applied properly, that area takes a ton of heat abuse and often chips.

They have always been like that. I assume because the two layers of black and colored porcelain cause clearance issues.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 16, 2017, 04:52:50 AM
Just heard back from Weber. They are shipping me a new kettle that their QA team has inspected. I'm hoping for the best.

I am curious about those that are cancelling their orders, are you doing this because you have changed your mind, or that you are concerned that Weber will not make this right?

In my mind the more grill fellas that catch this and report it, the more that Weber might right the ship down the road.

The flaws that we see the normal joe will not or will not know and as these things get used and fall apart quick than expected it will hurt their reputation long term.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: CatskillSmoker on November 16, 2017, 05:19:25 AM
Again I will say, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 16, 2017, 05:30:14 AM
Just heard back from Weber. They are shipping me a new kettle that their QA team has inspected. I'm hoping for the best.

I am curious about those that are cancelling their orders, are you doing this because you have changed your mind, or that you are concerned that Weber will not make this right?

In my mind the more grill fellas that catch this and report it, the more that Weber might right the ship down the road.

The flaws that we see the normal joe will not or will not know and as these things get used and fall apart quick than expected it will hurt their reputation long term.

Or they might scrap the idea of making kettles over seas which would be a good thing.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 16, 2017, 06:09:55 AM
They just got back to me about the leg sockets NOT being within their specs, The One touch hole said was due to manufacturing process. They told me to register the grill and let them know when completed so they can send me out a new bowl.  I am concerned with the color not matching though and I am definitely going to give the lid another once over in sunlight, not in the darkness of my garage :)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 16, 2017, 06:39:47 AM
Just heard back from Weber. They are shipping me a new kettle that their QA team has inspected. I'm hoping for the best.

Did they ask for the damaged bowl and lid back? Others have been asked by Weber to return them.

@dwnthehatch
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 16, 2017, 07:23:23 AM
Well, it looks like I spoke too soon.  I got around to inspecting the bowl this morning and  the leg sockets are bare metal on the insides as well as the bowl directly under them.  There are several other poorly coated/not coated spots around the bowl , specifically where it mates with another piece (I.E. handle) 

I guess it's time to call Weber...

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_100910.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fW9) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_100922.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fWF) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_100904.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fWi) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_101021.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fWv) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_100928.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fWw) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_100932.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fW0) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/16/20171116_100951.th.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/fWO)

Edit:  I'm not sure what the deal is with Weber this morning?  Maybe I got someone new?  In the past when I have called, it's been a quick conversation followed by a quick delivery.  Today I was grilled (LOL) for 25 minutes about where I got the grill, how long I had it, why did I just receive it if I ordered in August? 

They called me back FOUR times to request additional information and pictures.

I love Weber and have always been treated right in the past.  Today I am F'n pissed.  The CSR acted like I was trying to pull a fast one, even AFTER I provided a receipt, a screenshot of my order from Amazon, and pictures of the grill showing bare metal.

This was all after I had to explain that "yes, you do make a red kettle, I just got one this week." >:(
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 16, 2017, 07:36:42 AM
They told me to register the grill and let them know when completed so they can send me out a new bowl. 

Call them to register it. The website does not have the limited edition in the drop down yet.  They did mine for me and it shows up as "22" Original Kettle Premium Limited Edition Red Kettle".

Quote from: Josh G

Did they ask for the damaged bowl and lid back? Others have been asked by Weber to return them.

@dwnthehatch


No.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 16, 2017, 07:57:19 AM
Just heard back from Weber. They are shipping me a new kettle that their QA team has inspected. I'm hoping for the best.

I am curious about those that are cancelling their orders, are you doing this because you have changed your mind, or that you are concerned that Weber will not make this right?

In my mind the more grill fellas that catch this and report it, the more that Weber might right the ship down the road.

The flaws that we see the normal joe will not or will not know and as these things get used and fall apart quick than expected it will hurt their reputation long term.

1. I don't want to deal with the (likely) hassle of dealing with Weber on this
2. I'm voting with my wallet for Weber to keep these grills USA made. (or at the bare minimum, vote that this level of quality is not on par with the Weber brand)


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on November 16, 2017, 08:17:56 AM
Looks even better with these sweet handles... nice red Weber Grill System here...
(http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/whaaaaat/?action=dlattach;attach=5468;image)

Shit, I want those handles and don't even have one of these grills.

You and me, both.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 16, 2017, 08:26:55 AM
I stopped and checked the display at Ace this morning. And I'm disappointed but likely wouldn't be if I hadn't read this thread. The color is sweet but the coverage looks poor. 90% of the people won't notice or care

And I'll likely still get one since I kinda feel like I talked the guy into ordering them and I have a gift card so my actual investment will be small


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 16, 2017, 10:18:10 AM
I can't find a local retailer that has any plans to stock it until springtime. Special orders only.  I guess I'm stuck with mail order.  I'm still hoping for the best.  Will know more tomorrow when it arrives.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 16, 2017, 10:24:36 AM
At this point I'd hope to be dealing only with a local retailer. Open and inspect right away. The question becomes, what happens if the first/second box isn't right? I wouldn't expect the retailer to open them all up.

I suspect the best "guarantee" of quality is to get a replacement sent from Weber, however. We haven't yet read of any circumstances of the replacements being wrong.

But I'm an optimist. I know that every return hurts Weber financially, and directly. And that means they have a positive incentive to not only make the customer whole, but to fix the product also. That tangibly helps everyone, Grillfella and innocent civilian alike!

Withholding my dollars due to Weber's managerial decision on where to manufacture has exactly the same effect as never being a grilling enthusiast in the first place: They'll never know why you didn't buy it, so why should they "care," or even speculate?

And by the way, no company will ever place an Internet enthusiasts' forum displeasure as a primary product planning exercise. It's a fantasy.

Someone wise recently admonished us to concentrate on the product and not its country of origin. Well, I guess the temptation was too great and it didn't happen.

****************************

Now I'm gonna go take a break, and play with my new Thermoworks Smoke, Designed in Utah, Assembled in China. Highly recommended on WKC.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 16, 2017, 10:54:53 AM
Deleted. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 16, 2017, 10:56:17 AM
I deleted my own posts. Nothing was wrong with them but I needed to butt out and quit being a pest.

My apologies. Carry on
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 16, 2017, 11:23:58 AM
The only thing they will hear about is complaints in the future and people on this forum are tuned in to the 10th degree so they are just hearing about it from us first.

How many people are going to buy a preassembled grill and never see the leg sockets?
How many are just going to put together because they didn't know any different? 

When they rust out that is when Weber will have a problem backing up their warranty because they will be short on this RED Colored bowls... unless they produce 1 for 1 so that everyone - over time can return it.

It is a shame that it is like this due to a quality control aspect.... but as long as Weber learns from the mistake and can do right by the customer ( warranty replacement ) then I am ok with a glitch in this rollout.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bmcneely51 on November 16, 2017, 11:36:12 AM
My replacement that Weber overnighted me is flawless. Looks even better with these sweet handles... nice red Weber Grill System here...





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Those handles are sick!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 16, 2017, 12:59:32 PM
Just got to let you guys know, my grill came with black dots on the lid, the bowl is crazy the red didn’t cover good , black showing through. Weber customer service said it’s acceptable. There not going to do anything about it. So I have a 200.00 piece of junk, wish I would have never preorder this thing. The new weber company will never get a penny of my money again. And this is after I have calmed down. So be careful out there.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 16, 2017, 01:21:50 PM
Just got to let you guys know, my grill came with black dots on the lid, the bowl is crazy the red didn’t cover good , black showing through. Weber customer service said it’s acceptable. There not going to do anything about it. So I have a 200.00 piece of junk, wish I would have never preorder this thing. The new weber company will never get a penny of my money again. And this is after I have calmed down. So be careful out there.

I would call back and speak to a different rep!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 16, 2017, 01:35:58 PM
I talked to other reps, on these red limited grills they can’t make a decision, it comes from higher up, managers, supervisors.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 16, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
Wow, that's disappointing to hear. The fact that the red grills potentially have a different warranty protocol than lets say a black one is even more concerning. Perhaps some alarm bells are going off and they are trying to avoid replacing hundreds of grills?

They have always been good at making things right in the past, lets hope they come to their senses... if not I hate to say it but I would return the grill to where it was purchased :\

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 16, 2017, 02:01:55 PM
Just got to let you guys know, my grill came with black dots on the lid, the bowl is crazy the red didn’t cover good , black showing through. Weber customer service said it’s acceptable. There not going to do anything about it. So I have a 200.00 piece of junk, wish I would have never preorder this thing. The new weber company will never get a penny of my money again. And this is after I have calmed down. So be careful out there.

Is there bare metal under the leg sockets? That was the red flag that they said it would make replaceable.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 16, 2017, 02:05:05 PM
Yep there’s a big email to the reps,they can not do anything with out upper people looking at it . I have other problems in the past with grills they always fixed it , the reps, but on these there hands are tied
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 16, 2017, 02:34:28 PM
I may have to eat some crow, I commented earlier in this post about Weber’s amazing customer service. Since the last post I made I decided to purchase a second red kettle from a local alliance dealer, same dealer that my first LE kettle came from. After getting it home and unboxing I have came across the same problems everyone else is having. One call to customer service fairly painless, one email with the pics that the asked for. I received a phone call today from customer service to find out that bare metal in the leg sockets are “acceptable” and they will not warranty the grill. Needless to say I’m not very happy with my beloved Weber. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/dcfc7a15e2f8eb26b0ba882089dd63fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/724dd1f4a399f5168350bf226d5bdb15.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/1ccbc70da28fdc67be7058fee297787a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 16, 2017, 02:41:49 PM
Not smart at all on Weber's part.  The reviews will start to come in on Home Depot, Lowes, and Amazon and there will be nothing they can do to fix it at that point.  Really dumb. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 16, 2017, 02:51:16 PM
I may have to eat some crow, I commented earlier in this post about Weber’s amazing customer service. Since the last post I made I decided to purchase a second red kettle from a local alliance dealer, same dealer that my first LE kettle came from. After getting it home and unboxing I have came across the same problems everyone else is having. One call to customer service fairly painless, one email with the pics that the asked for. I received a phone call today from customer service to find out that bare metal in the leg sockets are “acceptable” and they will not warranty the grill. Needless to say I’m not very happy with my beloved Weber. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/dcfc7a15e2f8eb26b0ba882089dd63fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/724dd1f4a399f5168350bf226d5bdb15.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/1ccbc70da28fdc67be7058fee297787a.jpg)


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I would take it back to the dealer and let them deal with weber, it is obvious that the higher ups at Weber are not receptive to calling customer service any longer, if they get it from the dealers too, maybe they will do something about it.    These are the concerns that some of us expressed a few years back when Weber sold to the capital venture company.  I hope they right this ship, I am not pleased with the new genesis models and this new grill is definitely a let down.  While mine is not as bad as others, I can see clearly where they have cut costs in manufacturing.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 16, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
I forgot about the paint run
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 16, 2017, 03:04:44 PM
This sucks
I really want one, and have been going back and forth. Dropping $200 on anything is a nice chunk of my disposable income.
I was okay with manufacturing defects as long as we got the same ol' customer service, where Weber would make it right, right away.
Now I'm sorta turned off...
To spend $200 on something, it turn out not to be right, and have the company tell you that's "acceptable ", well that just doesn't sound right, and not what I'm used to when dealing with Weber.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 16, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
Well my local dealer just got 10 in today,will pick mine up tomorrow or saturday, it will be inspected right away......
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 16, 2017, 03:22:09 PM
It is a cool grill, I don’t want to bash it, just try to look before you buy. It should be sweeet, just wish I would of waited.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 16, 2017, 03:24:22 PM
Not smart at all on Weber's part.  The reviews will start to come in on Home Depot, Lowes, and Amazon and there will be nothing they can do to fix it at that point.  Really dumb.

Agreed. Weber better smarten up about this or they could have a major issue on their hands here. The leg sockets and grate straps with no porcelain down below is unacceptable. How can they possibly say that is an acceptable flaw?

I was okay with manufacturing defects as long as we got the same ol' customer service, where Weber would make it right, right away.
Now I'm sorta turned off...

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 16, 2017, 03:54:13 PM
I posted a question for the Weber rep. on the Amazon page.  I asked about the widespread defects problem and what kind of response we should expect from Weber.  I received a response that mysteriously hasn't appeared in the answered questions column.  I was told to contact Weber cs.  I replied by saying others are being told that these unacceptable defects are acceptable, and that won't work.  We'll see what the reply is on that.  Time to hold their feet to the fire.  The poor PR will catch up with them.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 16, 2017, 04:08:36 PM

.......These are the concerns that some of us expressed a few years back when Weber sold to the capital venture company.  ........


Bingo.  Perhaps there will be a day when Weber goes the way of Charbroil.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 16, 2017, 04:23:24 PM
@cwestsmokin did you include pictures in your correspondence? I'd keep at them.

@randy the paint run wouldn't bother me. I recently got a replacement 26 bowl with a paint run, but more to the point here, I think more paint > less paint, yeah? (Especially on the inside.) As Jeff said, take the first one back to the dealer. Those sockets don't look like bare metal (looks like black paint from here) but they also look like shit, and frankly so does the bowl rim. I'm staring at an older Dark Blue that's never been used and the sockets have perfect paint all over them.

Since they aren't H-D or Lowe's they won't be expecting a "return" but an Alliance dealer has a lot at stake with Weber.

Everyone: Use something public, like Twitter and Facebook's Weber page. Be courteous but persistent. Realize that the folks on the other end of the phone or email won't always act consistently.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 16, 2017, 04:29:04 PM
It’s hard to see in the picture, I’m definitely not a photographer but there is bare metal in there.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 16, 2017, 05:01:29 PM
@cwestsmokin did you include pictures in your correspondence? I'd keep at them.

@randy the paint run wouldn't bother me. I recently got a replacement 26 bowl with a paint run, but more to the point here, I think more paint > less paint, yeah? (Especially on the inside.) As Jeff said, take the first one back to the dealer. Those sockets don't look like bare metal (looks like black paint from here) but they also look like shit, and frankly so does the bowl rim. I'm staring at an older Dark Blue that's never been used and the sockets have perfect paint all over them.

Since they aren't H-D or Lowe's they won't be expecting a "return" but an Alliance dealer has a lot at stake with Weber.

Everyone: Use something public, like Twitter and Facebook's Weber page. Be courteous but persistent. Realize that the folks on the other end of the phone or email won't always act consistently.


This! If this shit starts to hit social media with real people posting real pictures about real flaws that are not acceptable then I think they would quickly right this ship.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mike.stavlund on November 16, 2017, 05:34:54 PM
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread!

I've been angling toward getting a LE kettle for my father-in-law's birthday.  And up until yesterday, I thought I'd just order it, hope for the best, and count on Weber CS to make things right in the end.  But after these disturbing reports today, we went ahead and ordered the Mastertouch.  Kinda disappointed, but didn't want him to have a disappointing kettle that came with lots of CS hassles. 

Really sorry to see this big new product push coming to a very disturbing end.  I still hope that Weber will make it right, but I just don't want to risk it when it's a gift for someone else...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 16, 2017, 05:58:18 PM
This! If this shit starts to hit social media with real people posting real pictures about real flaws that are not acceptable then I think they would quickly right this ship.

Hate to say it but it's almost a form of public shaming, right? In recent years there was all this stuff about Comcast not responding/listening unless you tweeted about them. There's something to be said about publicly letting a company know a paying customer has an issue.

More hype to ignore: What if warranty claims outstrip supply ... could the "oh, that's an acceptable trait" attitude be a result? Let's hope not.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 16, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
Mine just showed up and it is actually in pretty good shape.  My red is deep and sprayed heavy throughout.  I have a drip inside as well but it does not affect the sweeps.  Handle is missing red on top of one side but not horrible.  As for the leg sockets, totally raw metal in all three.   Do I keep it and try to paint inside the sockets?  Should not have to do that after spending $200. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 16, 2017, 06:08:53 PM
Don’t keep it. Try to get it replaced. Another call is another case to be made of how bad they are doing their customers now.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 16, 2017, 06:18:26 PM
Don’t keep it. Try to get it replaced. Another call is another case to be made of how bad they are doing their customers now.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 16, 2017, 06:30:03 PM
I went to buy a Smoke Master Touch up here for L.B.....and went through 4 of them to find each had porcelain issues. Pretty bad quality control. That some of these new Reds have similar issues is not surprising. What would be surprising is if there were not issues.

There are some pictures of poor quality porcelain on facebook too as well as some Weber Fanboys who have their noses so far up Mother Weber's ass that they just want to grill on.....and seem to want those with shitty quality grills to stifle any nay-saying about what they have too. I don't really care if something is made in China or the suburbs of Chicago.....I really don't. I just want quality...period. Am I a picky mother fucker...oh yeah.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 16, 2017, 06:46:30 PM
We should all be so picky. $200 for a grill (porcelain steel and aluminum) it better be right.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 16, 2017, 06:58:43 PM
So speaking of the master touch limited colors north of the border how is the porcelain comparison to he new reds??  Where do they color those master touch ones??


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 16, 2017, 07:24:02 PM

.......These are the concerns that some of us expressed a few years back when Weber sold to the capital venture company.  ........


Bingo.  Perhaps there will be a day when Weber goes the way of Charbroil.

Weber was sold to a private equity firm and not a venture capital firm.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 16, 2017, 08:23:56 PM
Don’t keep it. Try to get it replaced. Another call is another case to be made of how bad they are doing their customers now.


X2

X3

You can't apply porcelain enamel at home, and while no one, not even you, would ever see the insides of the sockets while using it, sockets take a LOT of abuse. Heat + movement = rust.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Harleysmoker on November 16, 2017, 08:48:15 PM
I passed the hint to my wife that I would like one of these for Christmas showing her the new youtube video. Tonight I told her I wasn't interested now after showing her the pictures of the leg sockets missing the finish underneath and the grate straps that will rust through. She excepts my weberitis and never complains when I go buy something. She was shocked as her and family was already thinking they pitch in a little bit and get me a brand new red for Christmas.

I hope this is not Webers downfall, no quality control? This is what happens when outsourced, a damn shame to what could have been
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lightning on November 16, 2017, 08:51:39 PM
Don’t keep it. Try to get it replaced. Another call is another case to be made of how bad they are doing their customers now.


X2

X3

You can't apply porcelain enamel at home, and while no one, not even you, would ever see the insides of the sockets while using it, sockets take a LOT of abuse. Heat + movement = rust.

Not to mention the environment that barbecues are used and typically kept in:  outdoors.  And that means moisture, so yes, it all adds up to rust.  Are the exposed metal areas likely to make it through the 10 year warranty period under normal use and storage conditions?  There could be a lot of warranty claims for barbecues falling apart in the year 7, 8, 9 period.

I have yet to see one of these red kettles in person.  I was thinking about buying one to go with the red Performer I have but I have reservations about it.  I think I'm going to give it some more time and see where things settle before opening my wallet.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 16, 2017, 10:11:01 PM
My replacement LE Red that Weber sent out has minimal “under spray” inside the sockets. I am on record as saying that I am happy. I am looking forward to cooking on it and enjoying it for years to come. Also for those that are upset/criticizing/beefing/grousing about black speckles, under spray, over spray, red speckles inside the bowls or lids, black enamel on the outer bowl handle strap, these are ALL “imperfections” or flaws found on countless vintage reds as well as other color kettles. I find it interesting that these are acceptable on an older kettle that came out of the factory with similar imperfections but it’s not acceptable with the new reds?? Also several of mine and others vintage grills have little to no porcelain inside the leg sockets. I think this thread is becoming a huge “piling on” of sorts and I find some of the comments (some previously deleted and some still on here to be off putting and not what we are about) . If you have the option to buy in store, inspect it on site. If you decide you don’t like it, return it. I will say that my replacement kettle has a higher serial number so PERHAPS there may have been bugs to work out with the first series/production runs of this grill. Let’s keep a good thought.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on November 16, 2017, 10:32:55 PM
Critical reviews have hit Amazon product review, heads will roll at the Weber factory.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 16, 2017, 11:45:26 PM
First year runs of products can be problematic.  I've seen it in other industries.  For the negligence and headaches caused for all involved, the manufacturer should bend over backwards to keep the consumer happy.  What I find off putting is a reputable company telling you that what you got is good enough.  Good enough is not what I expect from Weber.  I'm happy to pay up for good stuff, as I was taught from a young age that you get what you pay for.  When I do, I expect the quality to be there.  My red will arrive Friday afternoon.  We'll see what the unboxing reveals.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 01:20:39 AM

.......These are the concerns that some of us expressed a few years back when Weber sold to the capital venture company.  ........


Bingo.  Perhaps there will be a day when Weber goes the way of Charbroil.

Weber was sold to a private equity firm and not a venture capital firm.

Thanks I was mistaken, concerns still still there.  I am hoping that Weber will still be Weber in 10 years.  Not sure at this point.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 01:39:24 AM
When I put mine together I went over this stuff like a fine toothed comb.  Issue is, now that I know there are "issue" I have preconceived notions.  It is difficult when you have those and try to look at something objectively.

When I look at some of the complaints like over spray in the bowl, really?  We love that in our old kettles, go back to orange peal we LOVE that, that is a manufacturing defect.

I think we need to be cautious as to what an issue really is, if 1 leg socket has is down to bare metal and the other two are cover nicely, I think this is something that Weber should recognize and replace.  However, if some have black on the inside and the red coating didn't cover it completely, I think we need to maybe back off that one.  Is it protected? looks like it has black porcelain in it.  Would anyone ever see it? No

I am very concerned with the direction that Weber is going, I got into this because I seek out products that stand above the rest.  I buy my cars that way and I buy appliances that way, the fact that there is a legacy and collectibilty behind Weber it makes it a hobby for me.  Something that I do not have with my excellent vitamix blender(another GREAT product).  That said, I please ask that we be very careful using preconceived notions then putting these together.

If you don't like that they are made overseas, the only thing I would say is it is probably a lay of the political landscape over the past 25 years more than the fault of Weber.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 01:41:20 AM
My replacement LE Red that Weber sent out has minimal “under spray” inside the sockets. I am on record as saying that I am happy. I am looking forward to cooking on it and enjoying it for years to come. Also for those that are upset/criticizing/beefing/grousing about black speckles, under spray, over spray, red speckles inside the bowls or lids, black enamel on the outer bowl handle strap, these are ALL “imperfections” or flaws found on countless vintage reds as well as other color kettles. I find it interesting that these are acceptable on an older kettle that came out of the factory with similar imperfections but it’s not acceptable with the new reds?? Also several of mine and others vintage grills have little to no porcelain inside the leg sockets. I think this thread is becoming a huge “piling on” of sorts and I find some of the comments (some previously deleted and some still on here to be off putting and not what we are about) . If you have the option to buy in store, inspect it on site. If you decide you don’t like it, return it. I will say that my replacement kettle has a higher serial number so PERHAPS there may have been bugs to work out with the first series/production runs of this grill. Let’s keep a good thought.

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Well said....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 17, 2017, 02:32:29 AM
Well said ? Everyone has there opinion, my bowl has a lot of under spray not close to matching the lid looks like they ran out of porcelain, so yes iam critizing/ beefing and what ever else .it is what it is yes mine will be going back to the store. Don’t mean to bash but it crappy quality.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 03:36:44 AM
Well said ? Everyone has there opinion, my bowl has a lot of under spray not close to matching the lid looks like they ran out of porcelain, so yes iam critizing/ beefing and what ever else .it is what it is yes mine will be going back to the store. Don’t mean to bash but it crappy quality.

I can't argue with you at all there.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 17, 2017, 03:58:29 AM
Well said ? Everyone has there opinion, my bowl has a lot of under spray not close to matching the lid looks like they ran out of porcelain, so yes iam critizing/ beefing and what ever else .it is what it is yes mine will be going back to the store. Don’t mean to bash but it crappy quality.


Craig, I am sorry that the one you got (and others here) is not up to the standards that we have come to expect from Weber. Having said that, are you going to exchange it? Like I said, my first one (lower serial number) had more under spray near the One Touch holes and my second one does not. Now I didn’t think to look at the sockets on kettle number 1 so that may very well had been an issue. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and believe me, I was beyond pissed off and disappointed when I saw the damage to my lid and the fact that both lid and bowl were out of round severely. Weber is sending a rep next week to the house to pick it up. I don’t even have to send it back myself. This being my first major issue with Weber, I’m impressed with the way they are handling my situation. All I’m saying is let’s not let this grill cause any friction within the community. I have to believe that it is an early (and major) production issue that Weber will right in good time. I’m not bashing anyone for being upset, just felt as though that some of what is being said in the thread and on social media is splitting hairs and nitpicking but then again, we are their biggest supporters as well as critics when necessary. Keep us posted if whether or not you decide to swap it out. [emoji846]


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 17, 2017, 04:07:18 AM
BTW, there is footage of me attempting to do an unboxing video of my first grill and when I saw the missing porcelain/chip and out of round I got so pissed that I literally had to stop the video because I was beside myself. I might still have it.... so I do feel everyone’s pain and frustration.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 17, 2017, 04:37:11 AM
This is just really disappointing.  I have beaten the drum long and hard for Weber for many years.  I've talked several strangers out of other grills in HD, Lowe's, etc...  I have converted most everyone I know to Webers and have always trumpeted their customer service as one of the main reasons to buy from them.

After yesterday, I will no longer do that.  I called in my problem and asked them to register my grill since the website was not updated yet.   I got the third degree when I called it in and was called back by Weber a total of 6 times requesting additional information.  I asked if I could expect the bowl to be replaced since there is bare metal inside and under each leg socket, around the handle, and around the lower square hole for the lid bale assy.  I was told they would evaluate the information I provided and make a decision within a few days.

My frustration started when the CSR had no idea what grill I was talking about and argued with me about whether or not they are currently producing red kettles.  I won't lay out the rest of the call but I hung up feeling like I had done something wrong.  That feeling quickly turned into anger.  I have done nothing more than pay them $200 bucks for a product that is unacceptable.

I am a Quality Manager for a custom metal manufacturing company, If I handled our customers like that I would no longer have a job.

As of this morning, I have no answer and the CSR failed to register my grill. 

I am trying to decide if I should shove this problem in Amazon's lap by returning the grill to them and letting them battle it out with Weber. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 17, 2017, 06:41:47 AM
Had to take better pics for weber today, my poor quality photos made it appear that there was black paint inside the sockets. There is bare metal.
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 06:51:14 AM
Had to take better pics for weber today, my poor quality photos made it appear that there was black paint inside the sockets. There is bare metal.
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Are you going to take it back?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Filibuster on November 17, 2017, 07:29:37 AM
   Had to recheck for the problem spots and mine is in damn good shape. Guess I lucked out on that one. Does anyone know if weber has plans to put out any limited edition aprons, gloves, tools, etc  all in red of course.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 17, 2017, 07:31:18 AM
Waiting on response from Weber. Cs rep said they are not using the same warranty process due to them being limited editions. This is the second kettle I bought, it was going to be a Christmas present for my brother.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 17, 2017, 07:50:06 AM
Cs rep said they are not using the same warranty process due to them being limited editions.

Sorry Weber but this isn't going to cut it...

If you sell a limited edition kettle specifically targeted to Weber enthusiasts, plus charge a premium over a standard kettle, they need to make this right for people with porcelain issues.

There is a difference between a bit of overspray and huge runs that could possibly effect your blade sweeps and temp control. We've seen countless examples and these things just dropped last week. Somethings not right and Weber needs to step up to the plate or they risk tarnishing the views of some of their most loyal fans.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: ABCbarbecue on November 17, 2017, 08:01:43 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mcgolden on November 17, 2017, 08:07:43 AM
Put mine together today and I’ve got to say I’m pretty happy with it. 🤞 I checked it out pretty well, and while not perfect, I think it looks really nice. Should make a sweet cooker. Pimped it out a bit with some old style wheels. I think it’ll need some Zav handles soon.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 17, 2017, 08:35:51 AM
I just headed off the mailman a few hours before he was due at my house with my grill.  It looks like I got one of the good ones.  No bare metal or any other flaws worth complaining about.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 17, 2017, 08:52:51 AM
I'll have to admit, I'm slightly jealous.  I really want(ed) this grill.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 17, 2017, 09:09:34 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 17, 2017, 09:12:16 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Nah, while technically you are right, I don’t think it would be a problem unless your in really high wind.

Complete speculation on my part though.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: ABCbarbecue on November 17, 2017, 09:21:54 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Yeah I get why they did it, but for me their solution isn't ideal.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on November 17, 2017, 09:52:11 AM
I'm wanting one pretty bad. I'm a bit worried about it though. Do you think it would be better to order direct from Weber or is it still a crapshoot?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 09:54:28 AM
I'm wanting one pretty bad. I'm a bit worried about it though. Do you think it would be better to order direct from Weber or is it still a crapshoot?


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Buy it from a store, take it back if you are not happy, I have seen 2 of them and they are not bad.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on November 17, 2017, 09:55:18 AM
Thanks


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mike.stavlund on November 17, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Yeah I get why they did it, but for me their solution isn't ideal.
@ABCbarbecue  You could order a 'replacement' lid bale for your Performer, then put it on the new red.  Just be sure to use several Slow-n-Sears stacked up on the triangle for ballast.  I think 5 or 6 should do the trick! ;-)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: ABCbarbecue on November 17, 2017, 10:42:05 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Yeah I get why they did it, but for me their solution isn't ideal.
@ABCbarbecue  You could order a 'replacement' lid bale for your Performer, then put it on the new red.  Just be sure to use several Slow-n-Sears stacked up on the triangle for ballast.  I think 5 or 6 should do the trick! ;-)

Best idea I heard all day!  Actually just the one Slow 'N Sear opposite the lid on the charcoal grate would do the trick.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: ABCbarbecue on November 17, 2017, 10:42:51 AM
Or maybe it's time for me to try out the lid hinge.  What do you guys think... drill a few holes in the new red head?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 10:56:28 AM
Or maybe it's time for me to try out the lid hinge.  What do you guys think... drill a few holes in the new red head?

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 17, 2017, 11:06:00 AM
Drill away! It's your BBQ. Do what makes you happy.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 17, 2017, 11:07:20 AM
It’s hard to see in the picture, I’m definitely not a photographer but there is bare metal in there.

Easy way to tell is get a little water on there and see if rust appears.  I'm going to leave my bowl outside tonight and see what it looks like in the morning.  Been very damp in my area lately.  If I get rust then it's going back.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 17, 2017, 11:08:47 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Yeah I get why they did it, but for me their solution isn't ideal.
Well, yeah it is ideal for a kettle.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on November 17, 2017, 11:24:05 AM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Nah, while technically you are right, I don’t think it would be a problem unless your in really high wind.

Complete speculation on my part though.

It's happened.... http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/mt-flipped-over/
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
So I'm part of the new red kettle club as well.  When I opened mine, I had a chip on the rim of the lid.  This was clearly due to poor packaging.  The lid is the last part to be packed.  It's placed upside in the box, with a 24x24" piece of flat cardboard set on top.  There was zero sidewall support inside the box.  Any type of impact in the center of the box on top would apply direct pressure against the rim of the lid.  See photos. 
So I contacted Weber C.S.  They asked me for photos of the damage, of the box itself, and asked I check the rest of the grill for flaws or damage.  They also asked what store it was purchased from.  They also asked to inspect and see if there were loose red porcelain chips at the bottom of the box...which there were.  Long story short, they supplied me a new lid which arrived today that was pre- inspected.
The new lid arrived in a 26x26" box.  Included an insert inside the box which was 22" round that fit the rim within it to keep it from shifting. It tool me 5 minutes to unwrap this lid from all the shrink wrap and bubble wrap.  All the empty space in the box was filled in with heavy duty paper packing.  I've never seen anything from Weber packed so securely.  They clearly went out of their way to insure it arrived safely to me.  I'm happy they made things right due to a poor packing design, but it's still discouraging to see some of the other problems and obvious flaws of the porcelain coating processes inside and out that some of the rest of you are dealing with.  I can deal with poor coatings around the bowl handle edges and fish eyes in the paint...but bare metal shouldn't never be called "acceptable".

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: randy on November 17, 2017, 11:41:18 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is the customer service I expected


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 17, 2017, 12:02:02 PM
That is the normal customer service from Weber.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: crowderjd on November 17, 2017, 12:12:01 PM
Weber CSA really depends who you get.  I just ordered some wheels from Weber.  The first CSA was an idiot.  He was unhelpful and didn't understand that I wanted two packs of 8 inch wheels...even when I gave him the part number he didn't understand.  He kept on getting me four packs.  He quoted me a price of $68.  I said I could get it cheaper online.  I immediately called back and was transferred to a different lady.  She understood quickly, wanted to charge me shipping, when I told her I'd never been charged before, she dropped it.  If you have trouble with Weber, just call again.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mike.stavlund on November 17, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Yeah I get why they did it, but for me their solution isn't ideal.
@ABCbarbecue  You could order a 'replacement' lid bale for your Performer, then put it on the new red.  Just be sure to use several Slow-n-Sears stacked up on the triangle for ballast.  I think 5 or 6 should do the trick! ;-)

Best idea I heard all day!  Actually just the one Slow 'N Sear opposite the lid on the charcoal grate would do the trick.
But I prefer having my coals tucked back in the lid side of the grill.  So in the interest of safety, I'd daisy-chain several Slow 'N Sears together, then hang them from the handle.  Can't be too safe!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 17, 2017, 12:30:39 PM
Well i picked mine up today,my local dealer brought 10 in...The first one we opened had a mini grinder cut on the outside of the lid!!!..The rest of the kettle was great. My question is, what is someone doing with a mini grinder near a finished product? And how did it pass through inspection? The second one we opened was great, a little paint run on the inside of the bowl, that was it, i'm gonna cook the shit out of it!!!.. One i'm gonna keep in the box.I'm not sure about the serial number i know Craig wrote down his thinking that maybe the second run will be better.........Here is mine......B18012549....Jeff, mine was not boxed as nice as your's, just had the cardboard on top, no paper packing or bubble wrap..Also, my bowl handle had the letter 'X'... on it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 17, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
Well i picked mine up today,my local dealer brought 10 in...The first one we opened had a mini grinder cut on the outside of the lid!!!..The rest of the kettle was great. My question is, what is someone doing with a mini grinder near a finished product? And how did it pass through inspection? The second one we opened was great, a little paint run on the inside of the bowl, that was it, i'm gonna cook the shit out of it!!!.. One i'm gonna keep in the box.I'm not sure about the serial number i know Craig wrote down his thinking that maybe the second run will be better.........Here is mine......B18012549....Jeff, mine was not boxed as nice as your's, just had the cardboard on top, no paper packing or bubble wrap..Also, my bowl handle had the letter 'X'... on it.

Is yours just a "B"?  Mine is "BM"

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 17, 2017, 01:43:13 PM
Oh shit forgot to look, the 'X'.. is on the side handle.. I have it still in the box, as we are getting ready to move, so boxing up kettles to move to the garage at the other house..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 17, 2017, 01:43:22 PM
So I'm part of the new red kettle club as well.  When I opened mine, I had a chip on the rim of the lid.  This was clearly due to poor packaging.  The lid is the last part to be packed.  It's placed upside in the box, with a 24x24" piece of flat cardboard set on top.  There was zero sidewall support inside the box.  Any type of impact in the center of the box on top would apply direct pressure against the rim of the lid.  See photos. 
So I contacted Weber C.S.  They asked me for photos of the damage, of the box itself, and asked I check the rest of the grill for flaws or damage.  They also asked what store it was purchased from.  They also asked to inspect and see if there were loose red porcelain chips at the bottom of the box...which there were.  Long story short, they supplied me a new lid which arrived today that was pre- inspected.
The new lid arrived in a 26x26" box.  Included an insert inside the box which was 22" round that fit the rim within it to keep it from shifting. It tool me 5 minutes to unwrap this lid from all the shrink wrap and bubble wrap.  All the empty space in the box was filled in with heavy duty paper packing.  I've never seen anything from Weber packed so securely.  They clearly went out of their way to insure it arrived safely to me.  I'm happy they made things right due to a poor packing design, but it's still discouraging to see some of the other problems and obvious flaws of the porcelain coating processes inside and out that some of the rest of you are dealing with.  I can deal with poor coatings around the bowl handle edges and fish eyes in the paint...but bare metal shouldn't never be called "acceptable".


This makes me feel A LOT better!!
Thank you for sharing this Jeff!!
(I hope this isn't a case of You getting special service because you're Jeff Mother F'in K)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy on November 17, 2017, 01:54:41 PM
We just got our redhead in yesterday.  We got lucky.  Enamel isn't perfect, but really good overall and NOTHING I'd call a deal breaker and no bare metal.  My one criticism so far is that the lid bale holds the lid too high.  I prefer the bale on my 2016 Performer.
Performer bales are different. If the used the same bale the kettle could become unstable.

Nah, while technically you are right, I don’t think it would be a problem unless your in really high wind.

Complete speculation on my part though.

It's happened.... http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/mt-flipped-over/

Ahhh I saw this comment earlier and I got distracted while trying to find gummi's post!!
Center of gravity on a tri-leg with the lid bale is already unstable, it's way worse with the new performer bale on standard legs.
The wheels being on the same side as the bale makes it even worse.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 17, 2017, 02:09:16 PM
Time to get mine dirty.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2017, 02:13:33 PM
Time to get mine dirty.

About time...where's all the snow up there in Superior??
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: blksabbath on November 17, 2017, 02:25:11 PM

Time to get mine dirty.

That thing looks mean!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 17, 2017, 03:30:29 PM
Look's great !!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on November 17, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
@mcgolden Love the wheel treatment! I would do the same.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 17, 2017, 04:39:51 PM
... This was clearly due to poor packaging. ...

I have doubts about that, because the box and packaging is no different from any other 22, right? What IS different is the journey to Weber's distribution center.

The damaged ones are either being mishandled prior to going into the box, or the box is getting bounced around afterwards. I vote for the latter, because how would a paint chip wind up being included in the box if the metal was hurt prior to getting placed in the box? Also, if you damage the metal prior to putting it into the box, you'd have to be a Class-A cretin not to care about it.

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Obviously, none of that has anything to do with the missing and misapplied paint issues. Weber's being hit with two unrelated issues here, I suspect. Their somewhat Byzantine efforts to identify purchase locations and so on are likely an effort to determine where exactly the problems are occurring. They can't prevent them if they don't know where they are occurring.

In one of the older Weber videos from a few years ago, they mention that if anything's amiss during a spot check, the entire related run gets opened up and inspected. That clearly hasn't been happening with this model.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: iCARRY on November 17, 2017, 04:47:05 PM
The paint chips really have me questioning the quality of the coating.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2017, 05:00:49 PM
... This was clearly due to poor packaging. ...

I have doubts about that, because the box and packaging is no different from any other 22, right? What IS different is the journey to Weber's distribution center.

The damaged ones are either being mishandled prior to going into the box, or the box is getting bounced around afterwards. I vote for the latter, because how would a paint chip wind up being included in the box if the metal was hurt prior to getting placed in the box? Also, if you damage the metal prior to putting it into the box, you'd have to be a Class-A cretin not to care about it.

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Obviously, none of that has anything to do with the missing and misapplied paint issues. Weber's being hit with two unrelated issues here, I suspect. Their somewhat Byzantine efforts to identify purchase locations and so on are likely an effort to determine where exactly the problems are occurring. They can't prevent them if they don't know where they are occurring.

In one of the older Weber videos from a few years ago, they mention that if anything's amiss during a spot check, the entire related run gets opened up and inspected. That clearly hasn't been happening with this model.

Yes, it happened after the grill was boxed.  My point is that there is nothing between the outside layer of the box itself and the rim of the bowl.  Any type of moderate to severe impact on the top edge of the box, against the rim is most likely going to cause damage.  That's what happened as evidenced by the paint chips on the bottom of the box.  I suggested to Weber to bolster the sidewall inside the box...or put a foam pipe type of insulation around the entire rim.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 17, 2017, 05:04:47 PM
In one of the older Weber videos from a few years ago, they mention that if anything's amiss during a spot check, the entire related run gets opened up and inspected. That clearly hasn't been happening with this model.

Mumbo jumbo bull shit right there. I got a Copper a couple years ago that Weber fell all over themselves trying to get me non defective parts for. They couldn't do it. Like so many companies they have given themselves over to the lowest common denominator here. Missing and wonky porcelain and sub par.......well pretty much everything and anything at any given point in the production process. The company does not even see a problem...in fact the only problem they see are those that do not want 200 dollar grills that are Red. As per the older grills having inconsistencies and anomalies....yes they did but not to the extent that I have seen on these new ones coming out in the last few years. Right now I think Weber probably sees the collectors as a pain in the ass.....unless they are the type that have their heads up Momma Weber's ass.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 17, 2017, 06:36:55 PM
Hoss I described what was said in the video. By WEBER. I didn't make it up. I'll find the link if you need to verify that.

The company does not even see a problem...in fact the only problem they see are those that do not want 200 dollar grills that are Red.

I think Weber probably sees the collectors as a pain in the ass.....unless they are the type that have their heads up Momma Weber's ass.

You're frothing here. Is that really necessary?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 17, 2017, 06:46:49 PM
... This was clearly due to poor packaging. ...

I have doubts about that, because the box and packaging is no different from any other 22, right? What IS different is the journey to Weber's distribution center.

The damaged ones are either being mishandled prior to going into the box, or the box is getting bounced around afterwards. I vote for the latter, because how would a paint chip wind up being included in the box if the metal was hurt prior to getting placed in the box? Also, if you damage the metal prior to putting it into the box, you'd have to be a Class-A cretin not to care about it.

********************

Obviously, none of that has anything to do with the missing and misapplied paint issues. Weber's being hit with two unrelated issues here, I suspect. Their somewhat Byzantine efforts to identify purchase locations and so on are likely an effort to determine where exactly the problems are occurring. They can't prevent them if they don't know where they are occurring.

In one of the older Weber videos from a few years ago, they mention that if anything's amiss during a spot check, the entire related run gets opened up and inspected. That clearly hasn't been happening with this model.

Yes, it happened after the grill was boxed.  My point is that there is nothing between the outside layer of the box itself and the rim of the bowl.  Any type of moderate to severe impact on the top edge of the box, against the rim is most likely going to cause damage.  That's what happened as evidenced by the paint chips on the bottom of the box.  I suggested to Weber to bolster the sidewall inside the box...or put a foam pipe type of insulation around the entire rim.

I've got 2 boxes here, one for a NOS/never-used Dark Blue and another for a Copper. The grills range from a couple years to around 8 yrs old. Neither has any more protection for the lid rim than the images you shared for this new red.

That's why I claimed the boxes for modern 22's are all the same, and suspect shipping, and not packaging, has been a problem with these reds.

Perhaps it's semantics since packaging, and resistance to abuse during shipping are directly related. But we aren't hearing about non-reds being defective out of the box, are we?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2017, 06:56:31 PM
That's a question that only Weber themselves can accurately answer for us.  With such anticipation and exposure of this new grill...everything is going to be magnified naturally.  My point is that there can be improvements to the current packaging to the new red or any other color 22" kettle.   
I applaud Weber for listening to our voices though and finally trying to give us what we've been asking for though.  Hopefully this discussion will bring about positive changes and some corrections to the overall processes and attention to details.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 17, 2017, 06:56:59 PM
Most consumers won’t care about these minor defects.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 17, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
Agreed, Jeff, totally.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 17, 2017, 07:13:56 PM
Most consumers won’t care about these minor defects.

Not so sure about that one Lawrence. Depends on the defect. If I knew nothing about Kettles and bought the new red and found missing “paint” on the lid I’d care about it for $200.

I believe most wont notice the bare metal leg sockets or care until they rust through the bowl in about 2-3 years. Will Weber still have reds to warranty these for 10 years?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 17, 2017, 07:17:15 PM
Hoss I described what was said in the video. By WEBER. I didn't make it up. I'll find the link if you need to verify that.

The company does not even see a problem...in fact the only problem they see are those that do not want 200 dollar grills that are Red.

I think Weber probably sees the collectors as a pain in the ass.....unless they are the type that have their heads up Momma Weber's ass.

You're frothing here. Is that really necessary?

No no..I saw that video and remember it. I am not frothing I am speaking reality. Necessary? I placed a lot of faith in that company and so did a lot of other folks. They can do better but went South. To say otherwise is just shining it over.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 17, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
Those who have a new Red, is your lid vent tight?, I mean REALLY tight?  I am sure mine will loosen over time but right now it is very hard to manipulate.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 17, 2017, 08:31:17 PM
Those who have a new Red, is your lid vent tight?, I mean REALLY tight?  I am sure mine will loosen over time but right now it is very hard to manipulate.

Tight... not taking a chance to get it off the lid.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 17, 2017, 08:46:10 PM
Those who have a new Red, is your lid vent tight?, I mean REALLY tight?  I am sure mine will loosen over time but right now it is very hard to manipulate.

Not an issue with mine.  I feel very lucky for getting the one I did.  The only imperfections I found were a few VERY minor bubbles on the cover and a couple of runs inside the kettle.  I don't consider these a quality issue, and are barely noticeable, unless you were looking for them. They make my kettle unique.  I feel really bad for those of you getting the bad ones, and hope you get satisfaction out of Weber.  I woke up today fully expecting to be in your unfortunate ranks.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on November 18, 2017, 03:56:38 AM
Weber packaging has not changed in at least 49 years. Here is a 1968 kettle with original box and all packaging material. Not much protection for the lip of the lid.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171118/2c443c0bf1e72c62a5f0aa2836aa165f.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171118/4283b2baa861876c7d5378434fa0afb9.jpg)

That's a question that only Weber themselves can accurately answer for us.  With such anticipation and exposure of this new grill...everything is going to be magnified naturally.  My point is that there can be improvements to the current packaging to the new red or any other color 22" kettle.   
I applaud Weber for listening to our voices though and finally trying to give us what we've been asking for though.  Hopefully this discussion will bring about positive changes and some corrections to the overall processes and attention to details.   




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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: ABCbarbecue on November 18, 2017, 03:58:43 AM
My top vent is tight but it’s not really tight.  I guess the best way to say it is that I wouldn’t have thought anything of it if I hadn’t read comments here to check for it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 18, 2017, 04:06:49 AM
Weber packaging has not changed in at least 49 years. Here is a 1968 kettle with original box and all packaging material. Not much protection for the lip of the lid.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171118/2c443c0bf1e72c62a5f0aa2836aa165f.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171118/4283b2baa861876c7d5378434fa0afb9.jpg)

That's a question that only Weber themselves can accurately answer for us.  With such anticipation and exposure of this new grill...everything is going to be magnified naturally.  My point is that there can be improvements to the current packaging to the new red or any other color 22" kettle.   
I applaud Weber for listening to our voices though and finally trying to give us what we've been asking for though.  Hopefully this discussion will bring about positive changes and some corrections to the overall processes and attention to details.   


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That's a nice photo for reference.



Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on November 18, 2017, 04:13:05 AM
Oh, I didn't realize it was flat.  Thanks for that info . Interesting.  I still had the guy put foam piping around the lip of the lid of this one. I don't like the packaging on either.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on November 18, 2017, 04:46:38 AM
@Jeff  FYI, I talked with our friendly Weber Rep yesterday. He said, bare metal is a defect and it is replaceable.  However, red porcelain not covering black porcelain in spots (sockets, handles, underside, etc.) is not considered a defect.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 18, 2017, 04:52:38 AM
I've clearly seen some photos of bare metal with no black porcelain under them. Like under the grate straps and under the leg sockets.  I think one of our members was told that based on the photo's they supplied, that that was acceptable.  I feel bad for them.  In this instance, I don't think that particular CS rep realized exactly what they were looking at in the photo...bare black, yet un-rusted steel.  They need to try CS again and escalate the matter
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheFinkFarm on November 18, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/ffL

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/201711-Red-Weber.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/ffL)

Got a new red head yesterday, Ordered off Amazon, came USPS, no issues with anything.  Packaging held up great.  The corners of the boxes are reinforced now.  I had a copper bought from Lowes and had to take 2 back to get the 3rd that was not bent from improper handling.  The handles were bent on the first 2 and the boxes looked badly beaten.  I think the new corner reinforcements have helped.  And if the USPS can transport without damage, its got to be good.

I can't remember how to post pics but this is a try.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TheFinkFarm on November 18, 2017, 05:36:22 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_2029.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/ffy)

If you look closely on the handle you can see I got serial number 1 of this special limited edition run.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Mkrause on November 18, 2017, 05:52:19 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_2029.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/ffy)

If you look closely on the handle you can see I got serial number 1 of this special limited edition run.
Lol @TheFinkFarm has a collection of redheads

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on November 18, 2017, 06:08:44 AM
He said if that is the answer you get regarding bare metal to ask to speak to the CSR Manager (it is a defect).

I've clearly seen some photos of bare metal with no black porcelain under them. Like under the grate straps and under the leg sockets.  I think one of our members was told that based on the photo's they supplied, that that was acceptable.  I feel bad for them.  In this instance, I don't think that particular CS rep realized exactly what they were looking at in the photo...bare black, yet un-rusted steel.  They need to try CS again and escalate the matter
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 18, 2017, 07:09:51 AM
I think some people are getting all worked up about the inside of the leg socket not being covered in Red, I think that is overblown and social media is not helping that.  I have seen two and both have black on the inside of the leg sockets, that is completely different than bare metal.

If I see black, I know it has a coat of porcelain and I am not concerned.  Overspray and imperfections in a porcelain protected kettle I don't care one bit.

I think the overall look of the grill is stunning, I love the black accents on the red it really gives it some great character.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mdb240 on November 18, 2017, 08:04:27 AM
I think some people are getting all worked up about the inside of the leg socket not being covered in Red, I think that is overblown and social media is not helping that.  I have seen two and both have black on the inside of the leg sockets, that is completely different than bare metal.

If I see black, I know it has a coat of porcelain and I am not concerned.  Overspray and imperfections in a porcelain protected kettle I don't care one bit.

I think the overall look of the grill is stunning, I love the black accents on the red it really gives it some great character.

I guarantee you this is bare metal, no black to be found on any of the 3 sockets. They said they would send me a new bowl once I registered it.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 18, 2017, 09:02:11 AM
I pulled the leg kit off of my replacement kettle yesterday and it appears black inside the sockets as opposed to the silver raw/bare metal.




HOLY GRAILS: 1950s era Black or Custom finish 18.5 or 22.5 Kettle, Brown Go Anywhere grill.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 18, 2017, 09:37:17 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_5110.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_5108.jpg)

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Grounded off areas under the grate straps. I suspect they forgot to tack weld straps before porcelain spray process and grounded off the whole strap contact area and tack welded after.  As for inside the leg sockets are bare metal too.

My lid is fine and the bowl is better than some of the ones I have seen so far. But still rust and bare metal should not be.

I have just contacted the Weber CS and sent many supporting pics as requested.  We shall see what happens.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 18, 2017, 10:10:26 AM
Pretty clear to me that is bare metal... Also watch the Baby Back Maniac follow up review where they show the inside grate straps. You can already see rust forming in the strap joint and the same poor spray job where under the strap tabs are bare.

We cant just give them a pass because we love Weber grills. This is not acceptable:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/limited-rust.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 18, 2017, 11:03:34 AM
Pretty clear to me that is bare metal... Also watch the Baby Back Maniac follow up review where they show the inside grate straps. You can already see rust forming in the strap joint and the same poor spray job where under the strap tabs are bare.

We cant just give them a pass because we love Weber grills. This is not acceptable:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/limited-rust.jpg)

+1

I am still waiting to hear back but wondering what kind of recourse we have if the CS Manager says this is acceptable.

My lid is ok.
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_5113.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 18, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
^ looks great Greenweb! Do you use a little gasket or similar between the lid strap and lid to prevent chips?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 18, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
I am still waiting to hear back but wondering what kind of recourse we have if the CS Manager says this is acceptable.

You return it to the retailer, just as with anything else?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 18, 2017, 12:12:46 PM
I pulled the leg kit off of my replacement kettle yesterday and it appears black inside the sockets as opposed to the silver raw/bare metal.




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Those look like mine.  No bare metal, but still black on the inside and on the bowl beneath the sockets.  My one complaint is that the legs were a big PIA to get into the clipped sockets. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 18, 2017, 12:26:41 PM
I will say that I do prefer the new push button clips over the friction sockets, seems easier to install and uninstall without wearing out the legs as much. Of course, thumbscrews (old style) is my favorite leg/socket combo. (Pre 1969)


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 18, 2017, 02:43:39 PM
This looks very good Mr Green Dude:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_5113.jpg)

The Bourbon you left me is almost gone.....................................................when are you coming back?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 18, 2017, 02:47:39 PM
LMFAO!!!.When you get a couple of rack's on that 26er.....lol
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 18, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
^ looks great Greenweb! Do you use a little gasket or similar between the lid strap and lid to prevent chips?

Thanks! I use high temp fiber gaskets on all my Taco kettles. No chips on the Taco lids yet so far.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 18, 2017, 05:08:25 PM
This looks very good Mr Green Dude:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_5113.jpg)

The Bourbon you left me is almost gone.....................................................when are you coming back?

Lol!

Thanks! I have the same fire place handle on the Ivory. So, I am working on diff. handle strap for this Red.  I am sure you will approve when you see it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 18, 2017, 05:08:30 PM
Where do you get high temp fiber gaskets?  Is that something at an auto parts store?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 18, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
Where do you get the gaskets Greenweb? The only way I’d buy the new redhead is if you would mod it to look like yours. You’re collection is always impressive.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 18, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
@HoosierKettle and @kettlebb - Thanks kettlebb.

I am sure you can buy it at any auto parts store or online. I just happen to have a sheet of it at home. Can't remember where I got it from.

This is from the Red SSP restore lid handle that was off. Same deal on any Taco handles for me. Cut to size and punch center holes using hollow punch.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/01/25/IMG_3436.jpg)


Here is a same stuff I have on ebay for less than $1.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gasket-Material-Fel-Pro-Karropak-Tan-Fiber-Sheet-1-32-Thick-Felpro-/152766106260

By the way, these fiber gaskets are made by Felpro made in USA.  ;)


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 18, 2017, 05:39:48 PM
Thanks man. You always take what weber makes and make it better. That lid looks fantastic.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 18, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Nice job @greenweb ! It gives it a very retro look. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: WNC on November 18, 2017, 07:54:57 PM
Yeah, if I get one, I'm doin' that!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on November 18, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
Just opened mine today. Was delivered yesteray via USPS .. No shipping damage, but it did have the leg socket problem and some fish eyes in the red of the lid. Called Weber CS this afternoon and was told it was normal. If it rusted, don't worry, it has a 10 year warranty. Apparently that must not count to him right now.

Called back this evening and got a nice lady that requested pics. Sent it all over to them. Waiting to hear back. If they won't replace it, I'll send it back to Amazon and try again... I could live with the lid issue, but the bare metal on the bowl at the bottom of the socket worries me a bit. Maybe I'm just too picky. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/f3919f8933941d8154b06c0dea1a0605.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/058cc9085cf896da7df9da476eb7a2e7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/f988d30870fae98dfc9de8617f553fb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/247bed4fddff8399d0443e617829bdb1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/ca8a82c7a127191e14109d78ca698f34.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/935a0daa609a12ac3db56fc3ce0e181e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 18, 2017, 08:33:22 PM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on November 19, 2017, 12:11:58 AM
Just ordered 2 sheet's of those gsakets..
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 19, 2017, 12:27:56 AM
The only reason a company needs a customer service department that is known for anything at all.................is bad quality control. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 19, 2017, 03:12:03 AM
The only reason a company needs a customer service department that is known for anything at all.................is bad quality control. Just sayin'.

OK Mike, I need to talk you off the ledge here.

You are on a mission lately and this needs to be addressed.  For years Weber grills has put out a great product and I would argue is still superior to it's competitors.  I recognize some issues with this latest run.  However, your statement

"The only reason a company needs a customer service department that is known for anything at all.................is bad quality control"

Weber throughout the years has been known for its stellar customer service, during MLH, MBH Wood handle and OTG eras, they were great.  The quality control per your standards was good, yet they still needed a customer service department. 

Mike, I like you man to man, I know the person that you are and how stand up you are but you are really out against the new Weber and any changes happening. 

Come off the ledge, it'll be OK brutha.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: hawgheaven on November 19, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
@HoosierKettle and @kettlebb - Thanks kettlebb.

I am sure you can buy it at any auto parts store or online. I just happen to have a sheet of it at home. Can't remember where I got it from.

This is from the Red SSP restore lid handle that was off. Same deal on any Taco handles for me. Cut to size and punch center holes using hollow punch.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/01/25/IMG_3436.jpg)


Here is a same stuff I have on ebay for less than $1.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gasket-Material-Fel-Pro-Karropak-Tan-Fiber-Sheet-1-32-Thick-Felpro-/152766106260

By the way, these fiber gaskets are made by Felpro made in USA.  ;)

Grate looking lid sir! I just ordered the same gasket material for my tacos... thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 19, 2017, 07:25:09 AM
This looks very good Mr Green Dude:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/18/IMG_5113.jpg)

The Bourbon you left me is almost gone.....................................................when are you coming back?

Lol!

Thanks! I have the same fire place handle on the Ivory. So, I am working on diff. handle strap for this Red.  I am sure you will approve when you see it.



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 19, 2017, 07:46:03 AM
Very, very, nice @greenweb .  Well done!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 19, 2017, 08:00:48 AM
If I can get mine sorted, I will be copying you with the fireplace handle.

That looks great!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on November 19, 2017, 08:55:17 AM
It is possible to bend the taco handle into the classic shape, toss the shield, cut off the excess, drill new holes, and mount with existing hardware. Zero cost only labor. Would be nice to have a vice tho, as the taco handle strap is some stout material. The existing plastic handle can even be reused with a little trimming on the underside.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/19/IMG_0982.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on November 19, 2017, 09:15:18 AM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: TD on November 19, 2017, 09:43:31 AM
I decided a long time ago not to order a grill and have it shipped. Better to buy cash and carry and inspect well before accepting. Most of my cooks are slow smokes and the inside of my grill is resin coated so bare metal under the grate straps wouldn't probably be a problem for me. Also the leg sockets are not usually visible so a little 2000 degree clear would seal that against any rust. I have always said I would seal under a welded handle that way to prevent rust (for a kettle exposed to the elements). However the Lid had better be perfect. No base showing thru the color. That is unacceptable for me.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 19, 2017, 09:46:20 AM
Given the spray patterns of these kettle bowls, it's obvious that Weber or their CM is using conveyor automation with a simple spray pattern. It looks like the porcelain spray is coming in horizontal and not getting into the sockets. for a part as big as the kettle, would be more economical to hang the part as well. This Pacline GoPro video shows a similar system for propane tanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YokzhGQdzRo

Weber, if you're reading this, this is an easy fix. Just place one spray nozzle perpendicular to the leg sockets and it will be all good.

Here's another video with an overhead paint conveyor for propane tanks where there are fixed spray nozzles around the collars and one that oscillates about the vertical axis for the tank body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_1F7tpZr1A

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 19, 2017, 10:05:47 AM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

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apparently, they see black where the others see bare metal.  i am not sure this is willful ignorance on Weber's part.  perhaps the CSR truly sees black.  remember the dress some people saw as black and blue, while others saw it as white and gold?  perhaps this is part of the discrepancy between responses?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on November 19, 2017, 10:09:06 AM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171119/8426de1fc2507fa74d2cda63bba722bd.jpg)

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apparently, they see black where the others see bare metal.  i am not sure this is willful ignorance on Weber's part.  perhaps the CSR truly sees black.  remember the dress some people saw as black and blue, while others saw it as white and gold?  perhaps this is part of the discrepancy between responses?
Read their response again ..  they said there should be bare metal in the sockets... That's apparently normal to them .. I have to start looking at my newer colored kettles now...



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 19, 2017, 12:27:56 PM
We already have 2nd-hand confirmation from one of our unnamed Weber reps in harris92's post a little while back that confirmed bare metal is a defect. If someone has bare metal the issue needs to be pushed further.

And there is a glaring contradiction in that CSR's response.

"This area should be bare metal" contradicts with the very next sentence that claims "part of the production process ... is a black undercoat."


I'd respond, noting that!

The unfortunate challenge with ALL of this is with making a warranty claim depending on the corroborating evidence of amateur pictures. Absent some carefully worded text, a bad pic seems to lead to getting screwed.

Here's a few pix I just took of an older grill, unused (but slightly damaged by human-owner error.)

In this first shot, you're looking at both shiny and dull black. The shiny is indeed smooth like the inside of a bowl, or underside of a lid. The dull is, I guess primer? No bare metal.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/19/IMG_8725.jpg)

In this socket it's basically all dull black.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/19/IMG_8724.jpg)

It's an AT-code grill. 4 yrs ago, no paint at all inside the sockets, although there's clearly a layer of dull black primer AND shiny black under the blue. It's just that the shiny black does not extend to the insides of the sockets.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 19, 2017, 01:38:43 PM
The only reason a company needs a customer service department that is known for anything at all.................is bad quality control. Just sayin'.

OK Mike, I need to talk you off the ledge here.

You are on a mission lately and this needs to be addressed.  For years Weber grills has put out a great product and I would argue is still superior to it's competitors.  I recognize some issues with this latest run.  However, your statement

"The only reason a company needs a customer service department that is known for anything at all.................is bad quality control"

Weber throughout the years has been known for its stellar customer service, during MLH, MBH Wood handle and OTG eras, they were great.  The quality control per your standards was good, yet they still needed a customer service department. 

Mike, I like you man to man, I know the person that you are and how stand up you are but you are really out against the new Weber and any changes happening. 

Come off the ledge, it'll be OK brutha.

Okay. Maybe the customer service department has been more well known lately? I don't know how big the department needed to be back then but this is now. By their own standard....not mine..........seven of the last eight new in the box Kettles that have been through my hands have been defective....seven of eight. I am speaking about the quality control with some experience and a whole heck of a lot of time wasted. Time that good feelings and a bunch of meat on the grill will not fix.

This is in the last three years....and I do not think those Kettles.....a pair of Copper non tacos, a taco and non taco Crimson and four Smoke MT's.....were Chinese made at all.

I would advise anyone looking to buy a Kettle to do it in person and verify the product is good to go before leaving the place you buy it.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 19, 2017, 02:13:49 PM
High profits allow long warranties and staff ready and waiting to replace metal parts at the drop of a hat.

The initial product could be shit or great; it's unrelated to the issue of what happens after the sale. Having to spend lots of time and some angst getting resolution isn't really a signifier of bad customer service unless you have excessive hoops to jump through.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: harris92 on November 19, 2017, 03:28:40 PM
Big Box Store Displays

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 19, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
Reading directions....optional

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 19, 2017, 03:40:19 PM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

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apparently, they see black where the others see bare metal.  i am not sure this is willful ignorance on Weber's part.  perhaps the CSR truly sees black.  remember the dress some people saw as black and blue, while others saw it as white and gold?  perhaps this is part of the discrepancy between responses?
Read their response again ..  they said there should be bare metal in the sockets... That's apparently normal to them .. I have to start looking at my newer colored kettles now...



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You are correct.  Reading comprehension fail on my part.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cbpeck on November 19, 2017, 07:32:26 PM
I just realized this may be the longest thread in WKC history.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 19, 2017, 07:41:50 PM
"No Explanation Necessary" was 149 pages.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 19, 2017, 08:02:23 PM

Big Box Store Displays

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Sadly I can’t say I haven’t seen this before.... our local Ace and Lowe’s are notorious for this kind of thing....


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 20, 2017, 02:21:03 AM
Jaqam, they are a great company too.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on November 20, 2017, 06:59:37 AM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

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apparently, they see black where the others see bare metal.  i am not sure this is willful ignorance on Weber's part.  perhaps the CSR truly sees black.  remember the dress some people saw as black and blue, while others saw it as white and gold?  perhaps this is part of the discrepancy between responses?
Read their response again ..  they said there should be bare metal in the sockets... That's apparently normal to them .. I have to start looking at my newer colored kettles now...



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Have you had rust or burn-through yet?  Warranty doesn't appear to cover bare metal or questionable quality control, however, per the rep "The bowl and lid are covered against rust & burn-through for 10 years should you have any issues."..... I would suggest saving your communication with the rep, and as soon as you see rust or god-forbid burn-through in the leg sockets, hit Weber up for a new, warrantied bowl. In the mean time, enjoy cooking on your sweet red grill!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 20, 2017, 07:10:24 AM
The problem is if Weber has no red bowls in 10 years they give you a black replacement. This is so stupid.  Just send out a replacement bowl.  The money you saved on the bowl you have lost 10 times over in bad press on social media.  I understand they don't want to open the flood gates but the vast majority of people won't even notice the issues we do.  What they do notice are bad reviews.  And images now posted online of flaws cause everyone to look for them.   Not smart.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 20, 2017, 07:47:28 AM
I can see how automotive 2000-degree flat black or clear paint might be a good compromise for folks who don't want to confront Weber if afflicted with bare metal inner sockets.

*******************

Warranty doesn't appear to cover bare metal ..."

It's a type of scenario Weber likely never had to contend with previously. The "rust through" warranty is a common type of guarantee intended to protect consumers against hidden damage, which is GREAT of course. What's thrown Weber for a loop here is that they have some very perceptive enthusiastic customer who spotted some bare metal, which isn't normal for a Weber.

And I'd wager that bare metal falls under a common sense definition of "obvious defect" when selling steel that will see high heat and moisture. And again, that rep did acknowledge that "there is a black undercoat." I think it would be unreasonable for anyone to assert that the interior of the sockets "don't need" (by implication) undercoating.

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: charred on November 20, 2017, 11:00:11 AM
@greenweb Man that lid looks nice. I'm happy to know that Weber's worst move in the history of their glorious kettle- the heat shield handle- can be mitigated to the point of making the grill look decent.

When the China Red gets the handle mod and the wheel mod, it looks pretty good to me.

Of course, the ash pot mod would finish it off nicely.

On a side note, I find it almost personally embarrassing that these defects have made it into the public supply chain. After talking up the Weber brand so enthusiastically these last several years...Weber, why hath thou forsaken us? (ok, maybe it's not THAT dramatic)   :)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 20, 2017, 12:09:19 PM
@greenweb Man that lid looks nice. ...

Here's another of his taco-less setups and yes they do look fabulous. And there are others but I don't know where. One of the zavod handle threads maybe.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/04/25/IMG_40382.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dwnthehatch on November 20, 2017, 02:44:38 PM
I emailed Weber customer service a little over a week ago about the chipped bowl and bubbly lid. They sent me a compete new kettle that was checked by the QA team and told me to keep the old one. It arrived today. The old kettle was a BI code with a date of A10/09/2017. The replacement is also a BI dated A20/08/2017. The replacement kettle came with no chips, there is no porcelain in the leg sockets but the straps are painted underneath. My brother bought one that is a BM code dated A20/08/2017 that's missing paint under the straps and leg sockets.  I'm not going to complain to them anymore. Even though there are defects I'm satisfied with the replacement kettle. My brother is just going to wait for his to rust out in less than 10 years.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 20, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
@greenweb Man that lid looks nice. I'm happy to know that Weber's worst move in the history of their glorious kettle- the heat shield handle- can be mitigated to the point of making the grill look decent.

When the China Red gets the handle mod and the wheel mod, it looks pretty good to me.

Of course, the ash pot mod would finish it off nicely.

On a side note, I find it almost personally embarrassing that these defects have made it into the public supply chain. After talking up the Weber brand so enthusiastically these last several years...Weber, why hath thou forsaken us? (ok, maybe it's not THAT dramatic)   :)

Thanks! I am happy with how the handle turned out. 

Funny how I hated the wheels and wanted to change them out when I saw the pic of the New Red kettle. For now, they will stay as they look ok in person. Besides,  I will need another set of white walls to give that classic look on my replacement wheels.

Still waiting to hear back from Weber CSR about my Red bowl with bare metal under grate straps ( all 4) with rust showing. Not overly concerned with minimal porcelain coverage at leg sockets, runs, overspray inside the bowl. Let's see if they say this is normal too.  :o ??? ::) :-[ :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Dsorgnzd on November 21, 2017, 04:41:01 AM
Reading about all the problems with the new red kettles I am reminded of something I was told in a quality control class some 40+ years ago: you can't inspect quality into a product. That is, the answer to quality problems is not more inspections. It is to use your inspections to identify the underlying problem(s) and fix it/them. Weber is getting plenty of inspections (unfortunately, from the purchasers). I hope they are doing more than just replacing the faulty product. Building a product with a high failure rate can damage both your bottom line and your reputation in the marketplace.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 21, 2017, 05:12:42 AM
^^ Same thing I learned studying Project Management. ^^

A 100% inspection rate methodology is much worse than spot checking + better design/production. Weber knows this, too. I think they got royally screwed by their "trusted partner."
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 21, 2017, 05:55:23 AM
Well I finally got i good one, after waiting for a cs manger to call me, never happened after 4 days I just took it back to the store. Customer service mangers are really dropping the ball on this one.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Al b que on November 21, 2017, 07:08:38 AM
Just pick mine up at Ace Hardware. Grill looks flawless leg sockets coated in black. Great straps covering porcelain no bare metal no rust I'm happy assembled pictures later

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 21, 2017, 07:33:08 AM
It must be limited because I went to my Lowe’s last night and they were no where to be found. I did find the little plastic toy Weber grills though. Might do that for my 2 year old.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2017, 07:38:06 AM
I was at a local Blains Farm and Fleet in the Chicagoland area.  Saw a stack of about 10 of them.  No price listed, none assembled for a display. 

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on November 21, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
It must be limited because I went to my Lowe’s last night and they were no where to be found. I did find the little plastic toy Weber grills though. Might do that for my 2 year old.


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Every Lowes that I've been in has them stacked high on a shelf. Not sure what they're waiting for...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 21, 2017, 08:26:23 AM
I was at a local Blains Farm and Fleet in the Chicagoland area.  Saw a stack of about 10 of them.  No price listed, none assembled for a display. 

Every Lowes that I've been in has them stacked high on a shelf. Not sure what they're waiting for...

This place will lose its collective shit all over again if they go on sale in 3 days.  ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 21, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
LOL @addicted-to-smoke
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on November 21, 2017, 08:52:19 AM
Sonic booms throughout the WKC if there is a sale for sure
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 21, 2017, 09:00:05 AM
Wonder if any of the retailers would price match for the grillfellas that already bought one.  If it drops to $149 or even lower then I might eat crow and snag one as my present this year.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 21, 2017, 09:41:05 AM
No Webers appear in any Lowe's or Ace Hardware Black Friday flyers (slickdeals.com has them ...) Ace has online coupons that do not work for Webers.

Nothing really new here.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: indy82z on November 21, 2017, 01:02:20 PM
I purchased one last week and opened it to a big chip in the lid and the bare leg socket problem several others are seeing. I sent pictures and got an email stating that a replacement bowl and lid were being shipped. Couple days later I got an email canceling my bowl. I contacted them and they said they needed better pictures. I sent them and today got a response that being bare rusted metal was within their standards. I had planned on keeping this as a looker and putting it on the shelf but now I think I am going to cook the crap out of it and let them replace the bowl (if they even honor their warranty then) when it rusts through in a couple of years. Definitely not what I would expect from Weber. Guess the bottom line is more important than their quality and customers.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mick on November 21, 2017, 01:18:25 PM
I did find the little plastic toy Weber grills though. Might do that for my 2 year old.
@kettlebb lowes black friday sale from 11/23-11/29 while supplies last. (although it does say new lower price not sure what that means.)
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Al b que on November 21, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Al b que on November 21, 2017, 04:01:46 PM
Very happy with my beautiful red Limited. Orange pill is beautiful can't wait to fire it up.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: wreck | fish on November 21, 2017, 05:00:54 PM
Just checking in on this thread and am a bit shocked.  Sorry to hear about the trouble folks are having both with grill quality and customer service.  I hope Weber gets this sorted out for everyone.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on November 21, 2017, 08:47:04 PM

Is it possible that the porcelain coverage issues of the Limited Edition red has been present in previous years of colored kettles? Is it possible that due to social media and this Forum these issues have been thrust to the forefront and buyers have become more critical in inspecting them?  Case in point, @Craig had put his kettle together and only after reading about issues inside the leg sockets did he take it apart and inspect it, finding the black porcelain inside instead of red.  Is it also possible that all these years kettles have been produced with occasional bare metal in the leg sockets and grate straps? This could explain why some kettles have leg sockets that fall off due to rust and grate straps that totally rust out on some.

Looking at my kettles today, I found many that had partial colored porcelain coverage on the handles and inside the leg sockets. When not the body color of the kettle, there was still mostly black porcelain, but some had a lot of rust inside the sockets. 

Every one of my 18" MBH's  have missing color coverage on the bowl handles.  As you can see, they are not chipped but have black porcelain covering the inside and edges of the handles.

 18" red MBH    bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05256.md.jpg)

18" lime MBH   bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05254.md.jpg)

18"yellow MBH  bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05260.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05265.md.jpg)

As you can see below, it appears in both of these 90 era kettles that only the sides of the handle straps are covered with the body color.  The top of the straps are black porcelain.

1991 N Code     lid handle                                                                                                                bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05251.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05252.md.jpg)


1995 EO Code   lid handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05250.md.jpg)

Also, the majority of my kettles have some interesting beauty marks as I call them, in the porcelain.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC01106.md.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/IMG_5870.jpg)

I am not downplaying the concerns anyone has in regards to their purchases of these new kettles. You have the right to be discriminate as a consumer. I just feel that Weber is getting beat up over this Limited Edition kettle and these issues may have been around for a very long time.  We just may not have noticed them.




Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LightningBoldtz on November 22, 2017, 02:48:33 AM

Is it possible that the porcelain coverage issues of the Limited Edition red has been present in previous years of colored kettles? Is it possible that due to social media and this Forum these issues have been thrust to the forefront and buyers have become more critical in inspecting them?  Case in point, @Craig had put his kettle together and only after reading about issues inside the leg sockets did he take it apart and inspect it, finding the black porcelain inside instead of red.  Is it also possible that all these years kettles have been produced with occasional bare metal in the leg sockets and grate straps? This could explain why some kettles have leg sockets that fall off due to rust and grate straps that totally rust out on some.

Looking at my kettles today, I found many that had partial colored porcelain coverage on the handles and inside the leg sockets. When not the body color of the kettle, there was still mostly black porcelain, but some had a lot of rust inside the sockets. 

Every one of my 18" MBH's  have missing color coverage on the bowl handles.  As you can see, they are not chipped but have black porcelain covering the inside and edges of the handles.

 18" red MBH    bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05256.md.jpg)

18" lime MBH   bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05254.md.jpg)

18"yellow MBH  bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05260.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05265.md.jpg)

As you can see below, it appears in both of these 90 era kettles that only the sides of the handle straps are covered with the body color.  The top of the straps are black porcelain.

1991 N Code     lid handle                                                                                                                bowl handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05251.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05252.md.jpg)


1995 EO Code   lid handle
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC05250.md.jpg)

Also, the majority of my kettles have some interesting beauty marks as I call them, in the porcelain.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/DSC01106.md.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/21/IMG_5870.jpg)

I am not downplaying the concerns anyone has in regards to their purchases of these new kettles. You have the right to be discriminate as a consumer. I just feel that Weber is getting beat up over this Limited Edition kettle and these issues may have been around for a very long time.  We just may not have noticed them.

I agree, there are legitimate issues that I have seen but I think many of this things like thin coverage at the straps have been around for years.  Good post.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 22, 2017, 04:58:31 AM
I agree @Cellar2ful we are 1000% more tuned in with the Internet and social media. Good point.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Kneab on November 22, 2017, 05:14:39 AM
I don't have one of these kettles. But if I did, I would be okay with black porcelain inside the leg sockets, thin spots where  the black shows through on handles, red overspray inside, all the normal things we are used to seeing. I would not be alright with bare Steel underneath my grate straps,  or showing through inside my leg sockets. The way the rain runs down the sides of the bowl the leg sockets will rust faster if they're not protected properly. In a few years the shiny aluminum legs will also be rust covered. I also would not accept a bowl or lid with big chunks of porcelain missing either. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on November 22, 2017, 05:53:31 AM
Well, I got ANOTHER call from Weber last night.  They have reversed their decision to replace my bowl.  The lady told me that based on my pictures, it was acceptable.  I asked her specifically to tell me that bare metal is ok.  She replied "bare metal is ok, and there is a warranty"  I asked her if they would be able to replace my  bowl with the same LE color in 8 years.  She laughed and said she doubts it.

I'm blown away.  Weber CS has always been outstanding.  I get it that this is a huge fuck up.  I am a Quality Manager for a metal manufacturing company.  I absolutely get it, but I also know this is not how you handle something like this.  I would fire anyone under me if they responded to a customer like this about poor coatings and I would expect to be fired if I did it.

I have been really excited for this grill but now I can't decide if I keep it and paint the bare spots or just return it and move on.  I know I can fix the issue in less than 30 minutes and it will likely never been seen by anyone.  I also know I am seeing red and I don't just mean the grill.  I worry that I will always think about that last hone call and hate the thing.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 22, 2017, 06:44:14 AM
........She replied "bare metal is ok, and there is a warranty"  I asked her if they would be able to replace my  bowl with the same LE color in 8 years.  She laughed and said she doubts it.

I also know I am seeing red and I don't just mean the grill.  I worry that I will always think about that last hone call and hate the thing.

Bingo. Stop worrying and unload the load.

Black porcelain where there should be colored in a spot you will never see under normal use.....is fine.

Bare metal asking for rust is not. Nor is missing or super wonky porcelain in a highly visible area.

I looked at 4 Smoke MT's last year that had this crazy pattern on the outside of the bowls where all the handle strap welds were. So that is 8 spots where you had round wonky spots bigger than a silver dollar on each bowl......and it took me to notice?  Wrong. The outside of the bowl on a Smoke is smooth and those round spots that were so different they stuck out like a sore thumb. There had to be a number of people on that line at Weber who chose to think this was fine.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 22, 2017, 06:51:08 AM
Well, I got ANOTHER call from Weber last night.  They have reversed their decision to replace my bowl.  The lady told me that based on my pictures, it was acceptable.  I asked her specifically to tell me that bare metal is ok.  She replied "bare metal is ok, and there is a warranty"  I asked her if they would be able to replace my  bowl with the same LE color in 8 years.  She laughed and said she doubts it.

I'm blown away.  Weber CS has always been outstanding.  I get it that this is a huge fuck up.  I am a Quality Manager for a metal manufacturing company.  I absolutely get it, but I also know this is not how you handle something like this.  I would fire anyone under me if they responded to a customer like this about poor coatings and I would expect to be fired if I did it.

I have been really excited for this grill but now I can't decide if I keep it and paint the bare spots or just return it and move on.  I know I can fix the issue in less than 30 minutes and it will likely never been seen by anyone.  I also know I am seeing red and I don't just mean the grill.  I worry that I will always think about that last hone call and hate the thing.

When you get a color that is only made for a year they will not keep tons of them around for claims for a decade.  I had a claim on a sage after 6 years and was told they were gone and was given the choice between green or black. 

Just return your grill and maybe go buy one in person and do some inspecting first.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 22, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
Just return it. You'll feel better.

Or ask to speak to a supervisor, as was already suggested. Squeaky wheel gets the grease etc.

And later, when the email comes, asking for feedback on how the service was, be simple but direct with comments, not emotional.

Something like,

"I was specifically told that bare, unprotected metal was acceptable. Based on my long experience as a Weber owner, and also based on some anecdotal evidence shared by other long time Weber owners, I know I was lied to."

Remember, their legal "out" is the rust-through aspect. Even a completely unpainted, rusty grill won't rust through for years. It's the short term appearance they've apparently decided is the first casualty of a marketing fiasco happening.

But yeah, orange peel, some overspray, some missing color under handles or sockets, NOT a problem.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 56MPG on November 22, 2017, 10:59:46 AM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 22, 2017, 11:13:21 AM

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Lol - you got skillz, I love it.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: JEBIV on November 22, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
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spot on Marty LOL
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 22, 2017, 12:34:02 PM
There are two different issues here - both of which could have been squashed immediately by a proper CS response from Weber back in the beginning. Unfortunately that didn't happen and now they have a shit storm on their hands. One is people inspecting the grill with a microscope and finding "problems" like slight overspray etc. because they got spooked by social media... the other folks, and the bulk of many of the posts I have seen are completely legitimate.

If you guys received a kettle with bare metal in the leg sockets you're telling me you would just keep it and deal with it?? Common now... and if you do good luck getting a replacement red bowl in a few years under the "warranty". Enjoy your two toned black and red "limited" edition kettle.

Anyone giving Weber a pass on this either does not have a grill with legitimate issues, or doesn't have one of the grills at all.



Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 56MPG on November 22, 2017, 01:40:15 PM
How the Hell did they miss the sign?
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: BBQ Jack on November 22, 2017, 02:06:47 PM
If Weber were smart they would shut down production of this kettle and recall the ones that were shipped to the stores. This would limit the complaints and it would truly become an LE model.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: SixZeroFour on November 22, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
Hopefully they have started boxing up some more disaster relief Blue Wave SJ’s!  ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: joejenks on November 23, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
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If they just listed it as a red with black speckles, they would have been fine.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Shoestringshop on November 23, 2017, 01:55:07 PM
Lmao!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: CatskillSmoker on November 23, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
Hopefully they have started boxing up some more disaster relief Blue Wave SJ’s!  ;D

I'm hoping they box up some slate blues and crimsons.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on November 23, 2017, 07:13:31 PM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

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apparently, they see black where the others see bare metal.  i am not sure this is willful ignorance on Weber's part.  perhaps the CSR truly sees black.  remember the dress some people saw as black and blue, while others saw it as white and gold?  perhaps this is part of the discrepancy between responses?
Read their response again ..  they said there should be bare metal in the sockets... That's apparently normal to them .. I have to start looking at my newer colored kettles now...



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So, I got a call from Weber yesterday and was basically told the exact same thing that they wrote in the FB message. Weber considers everything I see on my new LE grill as normal, including the bare metal. 

Not sure how to proceed, I took a peek under my 3 Perfomers ... The red is an EE, the Cooper an AH, and the blue is a 2015 they sent me as a replacement for an AU.  They're better than the reds, but the coverage isn't perfect.  I see some bare metal, but no rust.  I guess this is just something I haven't noticed before .. I may just keep the damn thing.

I did however notice a nice size piece of porcelain at the burner pass though on my Copper thats rusting...  I wonder if they'll cover that?



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 24, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Brought one home last night still haven't in boxes it yet.

I also picked up the red handled spatula and tongs for the heck of it


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 24, 2017, 11:22:48 AM
That looks like a good one to be picky about, @Jet300.  I would send it back, if it was mine.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the rep via email, but earlier in the day I reached out to Weber via FB messenger. Got a reply this morning. I'm floored on this one ... Really really disappointed in Weber on this one. This thing should have been perfect, not a poor facsimile.of the original....

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apparently, they see black where the others see bare metal.  i am not sure this is willful ignorance on Weber's part.  perhaps the CSR truly sees black.  remember the dress some people saw as black and blue, while others saw it as white and gold?  perhaps this is part of the discrepancy between responses?
Read their response again ..  they said there should be bare metal in the sockets... That's apparently normal to them .. I have to start looking at my newer colored kettles now...



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So, I got a call from Weber yesterday and was basically told the exact same thing that they wrote in the FB message. Weber considers everything I see on my new LE grill as normal, including the bare metal. 

Not sure how to proceed, I took a peek under my 3 Perfomers ... The red is an EE, the Cooper an AH, and the blue is a 2015 they sent me as a replacement for an AU.  They're better than the reds, but the coverage isn't perfect.  I see some bare metal, but no rust.  I guess this is just something I haven't noticed before .. I may just keep the damn thing.

I did however notice a nice size piece of porcelain at the burner pass though on my Copper thats rusting...  I wonder if they'll cover that?



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Get another copper bowl now and hold onto it...when it gets bad, you'll have your replacement on hand.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on November 24, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
So I just took mine out of the box for inspection and it's a keeper not perfect but nothing to get excited about

I found one small speck of black on the lid and I mean tiny one on the bowl underside. I can tell the color on the underside is a bit thin but it's under and it's covered. Leg sockets are better than most and I may or may not add a little touch up just to be safe but this thing likely won't get assembled for 15 years

And for what it's worth mine is stamped B1


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bodhi on November 24, 2017, 04:55:59 PM
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If they just listed it as a red with black speckles, they would have been fine.

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I believe if you look close enough at an older red kettle you will see they also have black speckles. I understand they add a little "Lamp Black" to keep the red from being too bright or just achieve the exact shade they are looking for.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 24, 2017, 05:56:59 PM
Curious if the current colored kettles in Europe and Australia are manufactured any better than these LE Reds? I have a feeling that they are very similar in quality and aren't nearly scrutinized as much. Which may be why we/USA gets primarily black kettles. They hide production mishaps a lot easier.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 24, 2017, 07:29:10 PM
Curious if the current colored kettles in Europe and Australia are manufactured any better than these LE Reds? I have a feeling that they are very similar in quality and aren't nearly scrutinized as much. Which may be why we/USA gets primarily black kettles. They hide production mishaps a lot easier.

I am very picky with exterior porcelain finish on all my new bought Canadian LE kettles. Without getting into all the details on warranted items, or returned to bought store for exchange with another one..... I would say all of them I have now are in perfect condition.  I could take some pics of affected areas on my new bought Canadian LE MT Spring Green, Smoke, and Ivory if anyone is interested for comparision.

All I am saying is that certain things are not normal. I would give my Red LE bowl 2 out 10 as inside bowl has tape marks, red oversprays all over, runs, and most concerning ground off bare metal at all grate straps with rust showing. Even inside leg sockets should be at least covered in black porcelain not bare metal.

Not overly picky with this Red LE. All I want is a bowl with full coverage at grate straps. Am I asking too much?

I am still waiting to find out if Weber will replace my Red LE bowl or not.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 24, 2017, 08:05:54 PM
@greenweb if your experience is typical that is even more frustrating for the LE reds. If they have the ability and aren’t utilizing it, not cool.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 25, 2017, 03:01:08 AM

Curious if the current colored kettles in Europe and Australia are manufactured any better than these LE Reds? I have a feeling that they are very similar in quality and aren't nearly scrutinized as much. Which may be why we/USA gets primarily black kettles. They hide production mishaps a lot easier.

I am very picky with exterior porcelain finish on all my new bought Canadian LE kettles. Without getting into all the details on warranted items, or returned to bought store for exchange with another one..... I would say all of them I have now are in perfect condition.  I could take some pics of affected areas on my new bought Canadian LE MT Spring Green, Smoke, and Ivory if anyone is interested for comparision.

All I am saying is that certain things are not normal. I would give my Red LE bowl 2 out 10 as inside bowl has tape marks, red oversprays all over, runs, and most concerning ground off bare metal at all grate straps with rust showing. Even inside leg sockets should be at least covered in black porcelain not bare metal.

Not overly picky with this Red LE. All I want is a bowl with full coverage at grate straps. Am I asking too much?

I am still waiting to find out if Weber will replace my Red LE bowl or not.

Greenweb, your Canadian limited edition are made here, right?  So you probably have the best perspective of anyone in regards to quality differences between those and the new red.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 25, 2017, 03:02:13 AM
@greenweb if your experience is typical that is even more frustrating for the LE reds. If they have the ability and aren’t utilizing it, not cool.


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I did get a call which I missed few days ago and a e-mail also asking what other no. to contact me at. I did call back few times but no luck getting hold of the CSR I was dealing with.  Wondering why the CSR could not email or text me what they decided to do.  Either we will send you a replacement, or not. or we need more info or pics to confirm. ???
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 25, 2017, 03:53:43 AM

Curious if the current colored kettles in Europe and Australia are manufactured any better than these LE Reds? I have a feeling that they are very similar in quality and aren't nearly scrutinized as much. Which may be why we/USA gets primarily black kettles. They hide production mishaps a lot easier.

I am very picky with exterior porcelain finish on all my new bought Canadian LE kettles. Without getting into all the details on warranted items, or returned to bought store for exchange with another one..... I would say all of them I have now are in perfect condition.  I could take some pics of affected areas on my new bought Canadian LE MT Spring Green, Smoke, and Ivory if anyone is interested for comparision.

All I am saying is that certain things are not normal. I would give my Red LE bowl 2 out 10 as inside bowl has tape marks, red oversprays all over, runs, and most concerning ground off bare metal at all grate straps with rust showing. Even inside leg sockets should be at least covered in black porcelain not bare metal.

Not overly picky with this Red LE. All I want is a bowl with full coverage at grate straps. Am I asking too much?

I am still waiting to find out if Weber will replace my Red LE bowl or not.

Greenweb, your Canadian limited edition are made here, right?  So you probably have the best perspective of anyone in regards to quality differences between those and the new red.


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Correct! Made in USA.  I could only speak for myself in my situation as I have seen other members with perfectly fine Red.  I could honestly say that,all the issues that came up on this thread were not present on any of my made in USA Canadian LE MT.  Mind you, I did have few issues but nothing like this. But, to be fair to Red LE..... all my exterior finish issues on MTs due to me being real picky were not present on the Red LE.  ;D ;D

Lot more Red LE sold so naturally lot more issues come up. Plus, first time getting lid and a bowl sprayed overseas so maybe they screwed up on early batches. What I don't get is where is the quality control.



Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 25, 2017, 04:07:01 AM
It’s just my opinion, but I think it’s very difficult to just suddenly offshore manufacturing of a product that has been refined over decades in the original manufacturing location. It’s really a shame that these Canadian / euro colors were not made available in the states imo.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 25, 2017, 06:27:50 AM
Well maybe this mess will encourage them to bring the jobs back here where they belong in the first place.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigredmf on November 25, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
Would still like to know what components on standard black 22" kettles are Made in USA


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MacEggs on November 25, 2017, 07:10:44 AM
Would still like to know what components on standard black 22" kettles are Made in USA

My very first Weber kettle was purchased new at Lowe's in 2011.  It was a black OTS.  The box stated the following:

"Made in the USA, incorporating globally sourced component parts".

Not sure how much has changed since then …


Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 25, 2017, 11:19:09 AM
I emailed Weber.  Hopefully they will help us figure this out once and for all.

"Hello, I own several weber kettles and they are great.  I am curious to know which charcoal grills are still made here.  I'm only curious about the bowl and lids, not the other components.  I know the red is made in asia apparently, but I would like to know which grills are made here so I can support our local workers with my next purchase.

Thank, Sean."
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 25, 2017, 11:21:56 AM
It just occurred to me that they might not know where "here" is from my email.  I will assume that they will assume correctly lol
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on November 25, 2017, 11:52:08 AM

Well, some of you asked for it. Others might not be so happy.  Might be the first discounted LE red. Posted on Weber Kettle Fans Facebook page. Home Depot in Bartlett Illinois.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/25/23905695_1780474325318994_6712468147970958021_n.md.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 25, 2017, 11:56:28 AM

Well, some of you asked for it. Others might not be so happy.  Might be the first discounted LE red. Posted on Weber Kettle Fans Facebook page. Home Depot in Bartlett Illinois.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/25/23905695_1780474325318994_6712468147970958021_n.md.jpg)

Now people are really going to get pissed
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 25, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
I’ll need to see it in person to make a decision. I still think my K redhead is a better value.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pbe gummi bear on November 25, 2017, 12:21:45 PM

Well, some of you asked for it. Others might not be so happy.  Might be the first discounted LE red. Posted on Weber Kettle Fans Facebook page. Home Depot in Bartlett Illinois.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/25/23905695_1780474325318994_6712468147970958021_n.md.jpg)

I’d be in for $100!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 25, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
That kinda sucks to see, for those of us who paid up.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Foster Dahlet on November 25, 2017, 01:46:16 PM

Well, some of you asked for it. Others might not be so happy.  Might be the first discounted LE red. Posted on Weber Kettle Fans Facebook page. Home Depot in Bartlett Illinois.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/25/23905695_1780474325318994_6712468147970958021_n.md.jpg)

on sale already?  wow.  my guess is this is the local store's decision, not a national one.  yes?  no?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MacEggs on November 25, 2017, 01:57:15 PM
on sale already?  wow.  my guess is this is the local store's decision, not a national one.  yes?  no?

It's a Grey Saturday sale …  :P :'(


EDIT:  Ooops, sorry …. Gray Saturday sale ….  :-\ :o

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on November 25, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
We are on our way to HD for our tree and some new lights. If I find them I’ll report.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Ted B on November 25, 2017, 02:37:08 PM
My wife just picked one up using the picture. They would only give her one. Grandville, Michigan store. 49418.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: 56MPG on November 25, 2017, 02:44:32 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 25, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/25/19875511_1552565024775019_5796556261693113796_n.jpg)

Ooooooohhhh we should all stock up so as to cash in when the price goes up.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 25, 2017, 03:02:09 PM
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GregS on November 25, 2017, 03:06:18 PM
picked up mine today, had to add it to the modern MT collection.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 25, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
picked up mine today, had to add it to the modern MT collection.

Congrats! I know you will get one.  ;D ;D ;D



This is all of us who bought one already at a full pop. 

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/11/25/1345952278527.gif)



Members who got one at a half price sale.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Ted B on November 25, 2017, 03:24:51 PM
According to the Home Depot we went to it was a mistake but they would honor it anyway. Took a bit of wrangling. I would be interested to hear if anyone else was able to make it work. They called the Illinois store and they had changed the price back.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 25, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
Weber's comment to us who already bought one at a full price.


Full gif - https://memeguy.com/photo/162049/mrw-someone-gets-pissed-off-at-me-in-an-online-game

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on November 25, 2017, 06:11:07 PM
I'd happily drop a Benjamin for one.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 25, 2017, 06:23:14 PM
It's fitting that the only model to have such a star-crossed introduction had a dealer who screwed up the price. How, or why, would you do that, when *nothing* from Weber goes on sale, let alone half off?

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 25, 2017, 06:29:28 PM
I'd happily drop a Benjamin for one.

So would the rest of us that dropped 2.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 25, 2017, 06:53:00 PM
I would have bought the whole stack at that price!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on November 25, 2017, 06:56:24 PM
So, my news is that the whole red kettle is made offshore.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LiquidOcelot on November 25, 2017, 09:15:17 PM
Seeing it at 100 is one of those moments where you see it , you look at the sku to see if it's a fluke , and then try to not have that " oh fuck yea I just got over " grin on your face
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Craig on November 26, 2017, 05:44:14 AM
This HOT Topic has been temporarily set as a sticky. =)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 27, 2017, 07:29:31 AM
I received a response from weber on what grills are assembled (made?) here and abroad.  Pretty much what everyone already knew I think. 

"Hi Sean,

Thanks for being a long time Weber fan!  I'd be happy to help you with this.  Weber grills are designed and engineered in the USA using globally sourced parts. We assemble all but the Spirit, LE REd Kettle and Genesis II (not including the Genesis II LX) series of Weber grills in our USA-based factories. Our accessories are designed and engineered in the USA, and many of them are sourced and manufactured outside the USA.

If I can help with anything else please let me know.

Thanks and grill on!
Sean"
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 27, 2017, 02:59:32 PM
Finally had a chance to lay eyes in this grill at Lowe’s. Not bad looking. Didn’t see any obvious defects. The one touch was getting hung up on rough area of porcelain on the one touch. Overall looked decent.

First time I’ve tried out the newer style ash bucket. What a mother effer. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks I guess.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on November 27, 2017, 06:10:16 PM
"The one touch was getting hung up on rough area of porcelain on the one touch"

And more than one photo shared here shows missing red porcelain from underneath the One Touch's washer.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on November 27, 2017, 06:14:42 PM

"The one touch was getting hung up on rough area of porcelain on the one touch"

And more than one photo shared here shows missing red porcelain from underneath the One Touch's washer.

Sorry, the sweeps seemed like they were getting caught on rough edges of the one touch slots in the bowl. At least that’s what it looked like. I had fondled the display longer than what a customer should and I was getting looks. I had to cut my in store investigation short so I’m not positive what was happening.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 29, 2017, 03:42:45 PM
Finally, it looks like Weber will do the right thing and replace my bowl. It is on the way and should get it tomorrow.

I have been told that the main reason for the replacement is not because of the bare metal under and at the top of the grate straps with rust showing, thin coating inside with tape marks with red over spray, or bare metal inside leg sockets, but mainly because of one big run that interferes with the operation of the ash sweeper.  I have one big run and smaller run inside. Whatever!

My advice to anyone interested in getting one is to deal directly at the store for a replacement and not go thru. Weber CS. 

These are beautiful one time kettles. Don't be put off by all the issues on the board. Just make sure to open and inspect carefully at the store and one you are satisfied with.  Case closed for me. My Red will be little diff. than others. Will show it off on the weekend.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 29, 2017, 04:35:34 PM
It's fitting that the only model to have such a star-crossed introduction had a dealer who screwed up the price. How, or why, would you do that, when *nothing* from Weber goes on sale, let alone half off?

True! Not even sure if Weber dealers are suppose to advertise discounted price, let alone 1/2 off on just released Limited Edition.

I don't really care if others pick them up for 1/2 off or not. Just having fun with gifs.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lemans on November 29, 2017, 05:09:23 PM
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40$ from CLcode EE


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on November 29, 2017, 05:49:05 PM

40$ from CLcode EE


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Nice first Gen Master Touch Lemans. Why is it on this thread? Early Edition Red????   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on November 29, 2017, 06:07:49 PM
Besides the different thermo and the missing black accents, that's what my new one will look like.  The wheels are on the way.  I need to find an older handle strap for the lid and pick out some sweet Zav handles.  Any help with the strap would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MrHoss on November 29, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
I had fondled the display longer than what a customer should and I was getting looks.

Yeah. It happens.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on November 30, 2017, 07:45:05 AM
Besides the different thermo and the missing black accents, that's what my new one will look like.  The wheels are on the way.  I need to find an older handle strap for the lid and pick out some sweet Zav handles.  Any help with the strap would be appreciated.

Order a pair of fireplace handles off ereplacements.com and you got your strap.  @Grillagin
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cwestsmokin on November 30, 2017, 08:03:28 AM
Doesn’t look like ereplacements has the fireplace handles anymore . Craig
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bbqspott on December 03, 2017, 01:04:05 PM
I picked up one of these grills at Lowes today. They are on an unadvertised sale for $179.00, which was a nice surprise. I added a couple strands of Christmas lights, so I could use the $40 off $200 coupon, and ended up paying $146 and change for the grill. I couldn't be happier with the customer service. They let me inspect the grill before I made the purchase, and I guess I got lucky. The first box opened was perfect. After what I've read in this post, I almost didn't bother with this grill, but I'm glad I did. I love the color!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Madpap on December 04, 2017, 07:28:07 AM
I looked at two displays at lowes yesterday. Both were very nice. No issues I could see.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Malo83 on December 04, 2017, 09:56:55 AM
I picked up one of these grills at Lowes today. They are on an unadvertised sale for $179.00, which was a nice surprise. I added a couple strands of Christmas lights, so I could use the $40 off $200 coupon, and ended up paying $146 and change for the grill. I couldn't be happier with the customer service. They let me inspect the grill before I made the purchase, and I guess I got lucky. The first box opened was perfect. After what I've read in this post, I almost didn't bother with this grill, but I'm glad I did. I love the color!
Yup $179. here also, gonna pick one up this weekend.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: tmartin on December 05, 2017, 07:04:46 AM
The Lowes I usually go to doesn't have them but one on the north side of town has about a dozen.  I was up in that area this morning and stopped in, can't really afford one just curious to see one in person.  After looking for awhile I spotted them stacked on the high shelf, mostly covered with a tarp.  I asked the employee working the grill section if they had one on display and he said "yes, there's one, the only difference is the color".  Seeing him point to a black grill didn't bother me so much, I can understand that mistake.  The fact that he pointed to a Jumbo Joe was a bigger issue...

He also mentioned that they haven't sold a single red one, I can't imagine why.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 05, 2017, 07:15:22 AM
... He also mentioned that they haven't sold a single red one, I can't imagine why.   

LOL Merchandising 101

Show the damn product, don't assume the customer can imagine what it looks like.

Hell, even the special order green and copper ones often get at least a picture on display.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on December 06, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
The modding has begun.  I'll have to cut a bit off the support leg, but I prefer this look.  I bought a brand new set of lower leg stuff off CL from new member @Jed.cook, whom I encouraged to join here while texting back and forth.  Next step, ditching the taco for an old school handle.  Then, sending Zav more money, and maybe some custom wood to use.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jed.cook on December 07, 2017, 08:57:03 AM
Nice Legs! :)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on December 07, 2017, 02:52:09 PM
Nice Legs! :)

Thanks!  I get that a lot.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: blksabbath on December 07, 2017, 03:12:41 PM
Much better with white-walls.  At least I think so.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on December 07, 2017, 03:34:45 PM
The modding has begun.  I'll have to cut a bit off the support leg, but I prefer this look.  I bought a brand new set of lower leg stuff off CL from new member @Jed.cook, whom I encouraged to join here while texting back and forth.  Next step, ditching the taco for an old school handle.  Then, sending Zav more money, and maybe some custom wood to use.

I kind of like the new wheels.  I like that they aren't hard plastic and don't make so much noise when moving the grill.  The old wheels to look good on it though, and with this grill being a little higher, having to trim a little off of the front leg isn't going to make shorter than the old grills, so that is kind of cool!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cigarman20 on December 07, 2017, 03:39:51 PM
Rub- amen!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on December 08, 2017, 12:30:03 AM
Grillagin, good luck with your handle strap.   I had 8in. wheels with uncle al white walls in mind so you do not have to cut legs. At any rate, it looks good so far. I do like to see what you do with the handle strap.

Here is mine with black and red theme. Keeping mine more original.

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Title: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mcgolden on December 08, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
I used a set of old style 8” wheels to get a different look without having to modify the legs



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bob BQ on December 09, 2017, 07:40:21 AM

The modding has begun.  I'll have to cut a bit off the support leg

8" wheels with the Weber white walls are readily available all over the internet, and, oddly enough, are usually less expensive than the 6" wheels....


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on December 09, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
I like the look of the smaller wheels, and for $30, I also get a shiny triangle and legs for the cabin Cado. It's wheels still look good.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: varekai on December 09, 2017, 03:50:35 PM
@Grillagin , has the handle strap showed up yet?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on December 09, 2017, 05:43:47 PM
Not yet, but I have been at the cabin since Thursday.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: nitis on December 13, 2017, 10:47:16 AM
So the neighbor brought home a new in box one this weekend from the same ace I got mine. Well this is the one I passed on thank goodness because the box looked hammered

I'm pretty sure both the lid and bowl are tweaked as the lid won't  sit flat on the patio floor and one of my lids wouldn't go on his bowl

This isn't really on Weber so much as whoever transported it.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: mcgolden on December 15, 2017, 06:50:34 PM
My first burn-in so I’ll be ready to cook this weekend. I hope I get the chance.



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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on December 15, 2017, 06:57:45 PM
Nice set-up!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: VAis4BBQers on December 21, 2017, 09:54:55 AM
Warrenton, VA home depot has dropped prices. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/d4f9750a0413e3ba6fc065c9bb6bb40a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on December 21, 2017, 02:23:45 PM
Are they trying to move the bad ones that were part of the first run?   If it's from a lack of sales maybe they need to tell the stores to get them out and show them off. 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Cellar2ful on December 22, 2017, 01:21:31 PM

Stopped at a Ace Hardware and Orchard Supply today. Both had stacks of LE kettles and both locations had one assembled on display.   Both display models had no porcelain issues that I could see and thankfully were put together correctly .  I wasn't going to pull the legs off to check the leg sockets.  One had a heavy orange peel finish on the lid, the other had none.  They seem to be everywhere now, but no $149 markdowns in my area.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jaynik on December 23, 2017, 02:59:16 AM
Any nice color change on these or something endearing that would make one a good investment for a dedicated pizza setup?  Given that they're not up to standards for many, perhaps they'd be suitable for a task like pizza oven which gives a kettle a bit of a beating.  There's less risk (IMHO) to use a questionable quality (but pretty) grill for a pizza oven.  Still looks cooler than a standard black one, but not a big deal if it gets damaged.  For those of you who have one already, what do you think?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: toolhead on December 23, 2017, 04:58:42 AM
the qc on this line is a mess.

for those that dont have issues...its a great model/kettle


there something going on with the robo painting
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on December 23, 2017, 11:40:41 AM
Any nice color change on these or something endearing that would make one a good investment for a dedicated pizza setup?  Given that they're not up to standards for many, perhaps they'd be suitable for a task like pizza oven which gives a kettle a bit of a beating.  There's less risk (IMHO) to use a questionable quality (but pretty) grill for a pizza oven.  Still looks cooler than a standard black one, but not a big deal if it gets damaged.  For those of you who have one already, what do you think?

I got a good one, and have no intention to add a pizza attachment.  Though it will work, I don't want my new red cracking up.  I found a $5 1986 black 22 on CL to use as a beater. Not as pretty, but it will work fine with wood.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on December 25, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
Got one for Xmas! :)

Back a few months ago when Weber posted it on FB, I either “liked” it or shared the post with no comment. I knew my sister would see that and let my dad know. I figured if I got it that’s be cool but if not, also cool.

And then this forum blew up with the defective ones.

So here I’m visiting for Xmas. Walked past the box for a week before noticing the plastic sheet covering it didn’t cover Topper on a visible corner.

So after all the presents were unwrapped, everyone was told to go out to the garage and I was asked to “clear out the trash by the wall.”

**********

I opened it and it’s lovely. It has what appears to be “the usual” (for this model) too-thin paint on leading edges (front handle, some leg socket tabs) but zero defects in or out. Lid and bowl rims are great, grate straps are perfect.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 25, 2017, 04:36:56 PM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 26, 2017, 11:46:59 AM
Sometimes you just have to go shopping. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171226/bde78f83572f8942ee9f70e1c2969d88.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on December 26, 2017, 12:20:11 PM
Congrat's Darko!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 26, 2017, 12:30:53 PM
I had them open the box at the store so I could check it for any defects. All was good. Good coverage by the grate straps, good coverage by the leg sockets, good overall coverage with some nice orange peel... so it came home.  This store had it in their flyer last Thursday showing a price of $279.00 which they said was 20 bucks off the regular price of 299. I went today and they had 4 boxes, so I said to the sales person, 279 is normally the regular price on these. He said he would go check... came back a few moments later and said, OK you can have it for 249. I said sold!!!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Rub on December 26, 2017, 02:44:38 PM
Congrats!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: fedex on December 26, 2017, 08:09:12 PM
Sometimes you just have to go shopping. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171226/bde78f83572f8942ee9f70e1c2969d88.jpg)

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LOL!!! That a boy @Darko .  Your box looks great.  Mine was a bit beat up but an absolutely perfect kettle inside.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on December 27, 2017, 12:20:50 AM
Congrats to @Darko and others that got them.  I still have to pick mine up.  The one and only I've seen- @noreaster brought down the dock.  They're gorgeous.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on December 28, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
An emergency this morning sent me to Home Depot. My first time seeing it in person.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: johnny 2 shack on December 28, 2017, 10:54:38 AM
the longer i look at these the better they look .
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: bigssa on December 28, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
I happened to be at HD yesterday and saw it in person for the first time as well. They certainly look good and considering how slowly they have been selling, I am going to wait it out and see if the price drops any more. I know it is unlikely, but I don’t know that anybody would have predicted the quality issues and the 25% drop in price a few months after it was released.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: kettlebb on December 28, 2017, 11:21:12 AM
If I get one I’m taking the ash assembly off and getting an ash pan and clips for it. I like the peel on the one I saw today.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bertl on December 28, 2017, 11:44:36 AM
I got one too, could'nt say no to myself ;-))(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171228/4b513350b89efdad871f1f1ff3fb806e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RottiGuy on December 28, 2017, 01:20:07 PM
I like that little blue in the back ground better!!!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on December 28, 2017, 02:24:15 PM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5178.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5181.jpg)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: GrillGuyMosier on December 28, 2017, 02:28:03 PM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5178.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5181.jpg)
Love the handle on the red!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 31, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
Yes! I definitely like it!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 31, 2017, 06:41:11 PM
Teaser(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/0021ce0de00e43addb2b962eef73c2c4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/8499085151b9c7c54b218eb227bc5a79.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/b11b7b1c4915f24e147fd97d36c5de6c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/de1aab221eac2a47c37cf6b79403d43d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 31, 2017, 06:46:52 PM
All done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/f1b6803a31187c57508f60b521559c30.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/c4695f16d81b062cda1b351f1e46d6b6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/6ed4f5199dbc8846547188098ff9716c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: shamlax79 on December 31, 2017, 06:49:07 PM
Why are these considered premiums and not a mastertouch? They have the lid bale like the mastertouch instead of two handles like premiums.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 31, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
I like the fact that Weber used that 2 letter code.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on December 31, 2017, 06:51:15 PM
Why are these considered premiums and not a mastertouch? They have the lid bale like the mastertouch instead of two handles like premiums.


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Because they dont have the Gourmet grate, the charcoal baskets or the extra upper rack.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bertl on January 01, 2018, 02:21:25 AM
I like that little blue in the back ground better!!!
Me too @RottiGuy but as a collector i could'nt pass the Limited

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: VAis4BBQers on January 01, 2018, 08:02:36 AM
Got mine for Christmas a little late with the pic. Breaking it in tonight with the wok and some Mongolian beef stir fry. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/db34ae8c9ae42851997e10e50fd32044.jpg)

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bbqspott on January 01, 2018, 12:06:43 PM
I noticed today that ACE doesn’t have these on their website anymore. Could this be the beginning of the end to these grill already?
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jeffrackmo on January 02, 2018, 04:22:31 AM
My local Lowes has them.  I counted about 20 of them.  One was up for display.  I purchased one online and shipped to store.  With all of the hoopla, i didn't pick it up and requested a refund.  I know... I am a bit gun shy when I have read all of the Negatives and shortcomings.  Even in person, I "Fondled" the grill and I still have my reservations.  I am sure its my OCD kicking in... I may go back and get one eventually.

J
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: captjoe06 on January 09, 2018, 03:52:51 PM
Today At Home Depot
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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on January 10, 2018, 07:28:48 AM
I wonder if they are just going to stay at $149.  I can't see them going back up but maybe in the spring...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lowbrass on January 10, 2018, 07:59:07 AM
I wonder if they are just going to stay at $149.  I can't see them going back up but maybe in the spring...

According to the tag, they will stay that price until at least 3/20/18.  I guess that will be when we see if they go back up in price for the "grilling season" or if everyone on the fence gets one because they went down even more.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Chillin82 on January 12, 2018, 06:27:46 PM
Hello Gentlemen, just wanted to say that thanks to this forum an more importantly this post I bought my first kettle today and an LE model and even better than that I got it for the 149 price ! Thanks to reading this post I was aware of the defects coming from Weber in this model an I chose to open up the last 3 the local Home Depot had and picked the one I like the most. I honestly couldn’t be happier with it looks great !  I honestly don’t even know if I’ll be able to cook on this beauty lol
Title: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lightning on January 13, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
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I had a stowaway in the back of my car the other day!

Well, it wasn't so much of a stowaway since I bought it and put it there.  The trip to get it turned into an adventure, though.  Since I had the day off, I set the GPS app to avoid highways and avoid tolls and take a backroads drive since it's always nice to get away from the highways and see where it takes me through the countryside.  The weather was warm and wet when I set out from home but the temperature fell below freezing while I on my way and my car started hunting all over the road because of black ice.  I cut my speed.  That prompted a lot of tailgating and flashing high beams and horn honking.  At least for part of the trip, I was following a pickup being driven very slowly.

Google Maps changed my routing to "save five minutes" at one point and I inched around a bend and saw a multi vehicle crash involving a transport truck that had jackknifed and had several smashed cars up against it.  I did a three point turn to head back where I came from and someone else had spun out at the other end of the curve I had just driven through, apparently while I was turning around, and was partially blocking the road.  I applied the brakes and the car kept on going, sliding on ice.  Thankfully nothing was approaching in the other direction and the steering was still responsive and accurate so I was able to steer around this wreck, then back into the correct lane and finally come to a stop at the next intersection where I could jog up to the next parallel road and take the original routing.  On the jog, someone decided to tailgate and then cut across a double line into the oncoming traffic lane and pass illegally.  They then caught up to the next car and did the same thing again.  After a while, I hit salted roads and the temperature rose so there was no ice and the precipitation was rain instead of freezing rain and snow.  Everyone then slowed down, go figure, when the road surface improved.

Eventually I made it to the shop in one piece and got my barbecue!

I took the main highways home after that ordeal...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on January 13, 2018, 06:38:25 PM
Congrats! Sounds like a bit of an effort.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: crowderjd on January 13, 2018, 06:53:41 PM
Today At Home Depot
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My son was at a birthday today, so I went out on a quest to finally see one of these in person during the two hours I had to kill until the party was over...visited the only ACE on the west side of Vegas, 2 HDs, and two Lowes, and NONE of them even carry the Limited Edition red...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RickyD on January 13, 2018, 06:54:01 PM
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£149.50 in the Uk today

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Lightning on January 13, 2018, 07:29:27 PM
Congrats! Sounds like a bit of an effort.

It was something else.  By the time things got really bad, I was so far along I figured I might as well go through with it since there wasn't any point turning back by then.


£149.50 in the Uk today

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Enjoy!  Peterborough?  Another East Coast Mainline customer, I see!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on January 13, 2018, 07:56:00 PM
That does sound like an adventure @Lightning. We have had our fair share of slick roads lately as well. Luckily I haven’t had to go far when it has been real bad.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: hawgheaven on January 14, 2018, 05:37:33 AM
Yikes! Quite a ride I'd say! Anything for a Weber acquisition tho... 8)

It amazes me the way people drive in bad weather around here where I live. SLOW DOWN!!! They think it's no different than driving on dry pavement. Good Lord...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LivingTheKetlle on February 01, 2018, 02:40:20 AM

Check this "Promo" grill they are selling in Europe... Guess they are doing some limited editions everywhere.. I like the foot.

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This is in the main catalogue in Belgium


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LivingTheKetlle on February 01, 2018, 02:43:56 AM
This limited edition Master Touch was Weber's Winter griller promo all over Europe during the last months.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on February 04, 2018, 12:24:05 PM
This limited edition Master Touch was Weber's Winter griller promo all over Europe during the last months.


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I would love to get my hands on that 18" Limited Edition from Europe...
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: LivingTheKetlle on February 04, 2018, 12:30:44 PM
Its a 22'


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Tionoel on February 04, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
I guess I’m one of the few people that has zero attraction to this limited edition grill. My biggest dislike it’s the color...it just don’t sit right. Anyways I went today to Lowe’s and they had a bunch of them at $149.00...Two of them were already built...one was perfect, the other the lid was not sitting flush with the bowl...crazy cause both the lid and bowl looked perfectly round....
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Malo83 on February 05, 2018, 12:20:57 PM
Just got back from Lowes and they are on sale for $130.00 gonna give it another week I might have to use my Lowes gift card on one.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: cliffyboy75 on February 17, 2018, 09:01:39 AM
Hi, first post on this forum but just wanted to let people know about my experiences with the LE red kettle.  Ordered min from a department store in the UK who I had previously purchased a 2013 Spirit from and had no problems whatsoever.

The delivery process was problematic and the BBQ arrived in a courier box that was bashed up to say the least.  Fearing the worst I unpacked the box to find that the Weber packaging inside was intact and everything inside as it should be.  Immediately though,I noticed that on the bottom triangle the hook at the front of it that connects the front leg was bent at a right angle.  Now, it's been about 7 years since I bought a OTP so i couldn't remember exactly but i new that it wasn't right.

Anyway, I unboxed the rest of the parts and my immediate feeling that it wasn't as well made and robust as my OTP.  the top of the legs were rough and required some serious wiggling to get them into the supports.  Contacted my seller who dealt with Weber direct and I received a replacement triangle 3 days later - no issues there.

Went to assemble the BBQ today and then noticed that there was a large chip just above the rim of the lid.  Now i know it wasn't me as the BBQ has not been outside and the only place that the lid has been apart from the box was on my carpet.  Again, have e-mailed my seller and await a response.

Now, as I say I am new to the forum, but as an avid Weber fan I am not impressed with the LE red kettle and am only satisfied that I didn't pay full price and only bought it as I needed new char baskets, cooking great and charcoal grate.  Turns out a new BBQ was marginally more expensive!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jet300 on March 08, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Its a 22'


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Couldn't tell for sure. But, I found a link.  It's definitely an 18.5"

https://www.stigter-tuinmeubelen.nl/en/shop/barbecues/weber-kettle-plus-47cm-black/
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: i_rivera90 on March 09, 2018, 05:47:08 PM
Went to my local Home Depot for an Edger attachment, browsed the grill aisle to see if i find the GBS grates discounted (no luck), and when i'm swinging around near the patio furniture I notice the LE Red sitting next to this patio set up out of the box. I thought maybe it was just for display since it matched the cushions. Went to touch it and look at it and noticed it had a price tag and was for sale.... I was VERY tempted to pick this up!! 

(https://preview.ibb.co/eu1Jq7/IMG_4434.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fZLpxn)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Bubblehead on March 10, 2018, 04:52:52 AM
I would've grabbed it for that price!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: CatskillSmoker on March 10, 2018, 05:23:56 AM
Sounds like it's time to boycott future Weber products.
An American company that offers the rest of the world more products then here in the US.
I personally wasn't into the LE before it ever came out, MADE IN CHINA.
That was the first flag that went up. Now they are 99.00.
They've only been available for 5 months. Must be a quality product to drop the price in half so fast.
There should be a LOT of phone calls flooding CS in regards to this.
Remember, A Union is only as strong as the members hold its leaders accountable.
Giving loyalty to a company that doesn't show loyalty, I don't understand.
Don't drink the KoolAid
Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RRRanger99 on March 10, 2018, 07:20:42 AM
....And to think, many paid the full $199 price for the LE Red well in advance before and during the hype!.... It's now down to $149 at most Lowe's and Home Depot's, and as low as $99 to $89 in some, across the U.S.

Weber U.S. doesn't honor "America First!" and Euro Weber retailers won't ship to the U.S., in return making this mighty country of ours a dead zone when it comes to the Weber products we want.

One thing the WKC has good going for us grillers and collectors alike, is/are agents and friends(making new friends, and still growing) stateside and all over world to complete a task at hand, whatever Weber won't do for us.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Josh G on March 10, 2018, 08:46:00 AM
We have all bought things just to see them go on sale.  It is frustrating, but in the beginning it was not Weber taking orders and charging freight to ship them to people.  Weber did not do a great job with this one, but the problem was also with certain vendors making them seem like there would only be a few available.   
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jon Tofte on March 10, 2018, 12:13:35 PM
I know many, including me, have already commented, but the main problem here is that the production quality control on this “limited edition” was not properly planned or executed. I don’t like that it was outsourced to China, but there are, in fact, high quality products made there. (Think iPhone[emoji57].) If you have seen ones in the store like the LE red kettles that I have observed , I believe you would have to agree that these were made on the cheap with inadequate supervision from Weber. I am sure that some have purchased blemish-free examples of this grill, but I suspect even those have a dull orange peal finish. Then there are the ones like I saw on display at Home Depot with entire chunks of missing porcelain[emoji21]! No wonder they are having to give them away so cheap now...

I have elected to go the vintage red route and am working with another WKC member in Florida to arrange a purchase. I am really grateful for his generosity in coming up with a way to even deliver it!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Larry The BBQ Guy on March 10, 2018, 12:20:42 PM
Perfect timing. Tax refund time.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Darko on March 10, 2018, 06:18:36 PM
You folks  miss the point.

Weber could not manufacture the red LE in the US because of certain environmental laws regarding cadmium.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jon Tofte on March 11, 2018, 04:12:35 AM
Yes, I have heard that about the red color. But they could have exercised more control over the quality of the manufacturing in China, the way that Apple and some others do. Instead, it seems that they used a lower quality manufacturer with poor quality control.


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: RRRanger99 on March 11, 2018, 07:19:59 AM
There are several porcelain enamel refinishing service companies across the U.S. that restores and refinishes antique kitchen stoves, wood burning stoves/fireplaces, vintage era 1-piece kitchen sink counters, even bbq grills, etc.

offered in many shades of red porcelain. If you want to go that route, it will cost you $$$$$$$! Made in U.S.A.!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: hawgheaven on March 11, 2018, 09:56:53 AM
I've looked at them in the various stores. Nope. Don't want one. They look and feel cheap 2me. And now you can get them for $99? What does that tell you?

I work in the electronics industry, designing printed circuit boards. My designs get sent out to various vendors. The company I work for decided, for cost reasons, to move mfg of my hard work to China. Sorry to say, quality of the final product has gone to SHIT. That being said, no offense China, butt dayum. Wake up! Pay attention!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: jeffrackmo on March 12, 2018, 04:58:11 AM
I picked up a LE Red on a great private deal.  85 bucks.  Right out of the box, there as chip and dent in the rim of the LID.  Now mind you this was RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX!!.  I exchanged it at HD for a new undamaged kettle.  ON assembly, I too found that the legs were very hard to fit properly.  Also noticed that the quality that we kettle fans are used too was not really there.  Great deal yes!!  RED LE for under 100 bucks YES!!  Quality of of over all product??? Not really...

Weber, you sort of missed the Mark here...  Back to Quality.  Remember Ford back in the mid 70's????  Well lets get back to Quality as JOB 1!!

Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: hawgheaven on March 12, 2018, 06:45:20 AM
My guess is, good thing it's a Limited Edition... :)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on March 16, 2018, 03:35:06 PM
My lid handle mod came out pretty well.  @greenweb inspired me and gave me some helpful advice. @varekai sent me the donor handle strap.  Last but not least, the Koa Zav handles came from my secret Santa.  Thanks to all of you guys!

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on March 16, 2018, 03:54:09 PM
My lid handle mod came out pretty well.  @greenweb inspired me and gave me some helpful advice. @varekai sent me the donor handle strap.  Last but not least, the Koa Zav handles came from my secret Santa.  Thanks to all of you guys!

Looks fantastic! Great job!
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Brain_STL on March 21, 2018, 07:12:46 PM
Just picked up my new LE!


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on March 22, 2018, 08:04:29 AM
Has anyone had an issue with the lid on the LE Kettle?  On mine you can easily slide the lid off the kettle by pushing the handle over without lifting it.  To make a long story short I made several calls to Weber and it has been a long process.  I had to take a video and send pictures to Weber so they could review them.
They called me two days later and told me they are sending me a new lid and they do not want the old lid back.
So I get the new lid a couple days ago and it doe the same exact thing.  I went ahead and sent more pictures and another video to Weber again.  Now I am waiting again to see what they are going to say.
I do regret buying this grill.................... 
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Firemunkee on March 22, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
Someone in my area just bought a bunch on clearance somewhere and put them up NIB on Craigslist for $125. I wonder how low of. Price he got them.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: HoosierKettle on March 22, 2018, 09:24:00 AM

Has anyone had an issue with the lid on the LE Kettle?  On mine you can easily slide the lid off the kettle by pushing the handle over without lifting it.  To make a long story short I made several calls to Weber and it has been a long process.  I had to take a video and send pictures to Weber so they could review them.
They called me two days later and told me they are sending me a new lid and they do not want the old lid back.
So I get the new lid a couple days ago and it doe the same exact thing.  I went ahead and sent more pictures and another video to Weber again.  Now I am waiting again to see what they are going to say.
I do regret buying this grill....................

This is probably a dumb question but did you try the lid on another kettle to make sure it’s not a problem with the LE bowl?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Jules V. on March 22, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
Has anyone had an issue with the lid on the LE Kettle?  On mine you can easily slide the lid off the kettle by pushing the handle over without lifting it.
The bowl is probably warped and out of round.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on March 22, 2018, 11:05:09 AM

Has anyone had an issue with the lid on the LE Kettle?  On mine you can easily slide the lid off the kettle by pushing the handle over without lifting it.  To make a long story short I made several calls to Weber and it has been a long process.  I had to take a video and send pictures to Weber so they could review them.
They called me two days later and told me they are sending me a new lid and they do not want the old lid back.
So I get the new lid a couple days ago and it doe the same exact thing.  I went ahead and sent more pictures and another video to Weber again.  Now I am waiting again to see what they are going to say.
I do regret buying this grill....................

This is probably a dumb question but did you try the lid on another kettle to make sure it’s not a problem with the LE bowl?


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Yes I did try that....same result.  I put another lid on the LE bowl and it slid a little bit but not as bad with the LE lid.  Both the lid and bowl are uneven enough to make it imperfect.  I told the Weber CSR that in the beginning but they said it was the lid only.  I have been very nice so far but I am losing my patience with Weber.  This has taken over two weeks to settle this issue.  I am dealing.  Things will work out.   ::)
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Grillagin on March 25, 2018, 10:40:37 PM
Roti and mods.  This works for me.

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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: Troy1620 on March 26, 2018, 05:03:25 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5178.jpg)

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5181.jpg)
How did you take the taco off?


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Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: PotsieWeber on March 26, 2018, 11:33:58 AM
How bad are these things?  I saw someone locally already selling both the lid & bowl locally.  They are asking $50 OBO, which I think is too much for my project.  see http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/member-sales-trades/seeking-rusted-out-kettle-2-messed-up-lids-chicago-area/.

It it's around a while, I might make them a lower offer because I wouldn't feel guilty cutting one of these made in China ones & I kind of would like a colored one but don't know if I'll luck into finding something super roached old one that I wouldn't feel guilty cutting into.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: sodaking27 on May 03, 2018, 06:50:06 AM
Went to HD to pickup some furnace filters. Walking into the store I see 3 of the red kettles setting out front. Marked down to 79.00 Did a good going over and saw the typical thin coating on the handles etc.  Do I really need this?? No. But for that price, I couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: vader06 on May 03, 2018, 07:49:24 AM
I have some issues with mine but it is a damn good cooker.  I am curious how long it will last because of the sub par quality so I am going to use the crap out of it.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: greenweb on May 03, 2018, 04:22:10 PM

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/12/28/IMG_5181.jpg)
How did you take the taco off?


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Different handle strap similar to  how Grillagin has on his LE.  Unless you are asking how to take the taco off the original handle strap.... just pull out.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dogman on May 20, 2019, 11:07:20 AM
Today At Home Depot
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Hah, this is available here for only $390 equivalent in local currency :(
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pancho2017 on May 20, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
I love mine, it was my first Weber been going on a year since I've had it. Only issue I had was so porcelain chipped off the lid around the holes where the handle goes in. Weber sent me a new lid.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dogman on May 20, 2019, 12:19:30 PM
I was just about to order one of these but I read the earlier posts about the cadmium glaze...sounds kinda scary.
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: pancho2017 on May 20, 2019, 12:51:00 PM
Ah a little cadmium glaze in the diet won't hurt ya, it'll put hair on your chest make you strong like Superman 😁
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: dogman on May 20, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
Red cad glaze all in my diet
Doggone grill's on sale you buy it
Acting funny, but I don't know why
Must be because the glaze on fire

Bright red haze all around
Red cape is blowin' up and down
Am I grate or in fricasee?
Whatever it is, that grill put a spell on me
Title: Re: Limited Edition Red 22 Kettle: News, Views & Reviews
Post by: chazv580 on July 01, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
hello to everyone, i just signed up here, so my very first post, i am pretty pumped i have found 2 of the red LE's at one store, a local ACE. and i have bought one, and seriously considering going back Friday to get the other and stash away. Pd 149.99 which i think is a pretty awesome deal, i was told by weber these are from 2017, Is this the one and only year? That red is so brilliant and bright, i love it, i will get it together this weekend.