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Title: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on October 06, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
I was lucky enough to find a Weber Seville Cart.   I am going to have it powder coated.   What color options were there?

I am thinking satin black, but I believe it started our White.    PLEASE HELP.

Would a new color be sacrilege? 

Or, If I own it I can do whatever color I want to preserve it for another 60 years?

( posted pictures on BBQ Brethren, but I lost that picture)


Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Harbormaster on October 06, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
This is a pic of Beef's Seville.
He reached out to me at the Brethren and I'm afraid I was not terribly helpful. I was only to find pics of this vintage Seville in white. (The Seville is probably the Weber product I am the least knowledgeable of.)
Hopefully someone will chime in.

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q616/ksteers1/Mobile%20Uploads/0d27af6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: pbe gummi bear on October 06, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
Hey, great score! It sounds like you want to keep this one for a long time and preserve it properly so there is nothing wrong with painting it black. It's just paint, anyway. Another bonus is that black is usually cheaper at the powdercoaters. It might also be cool to have the leaves and vines be accented to make it fancier. Please document and share your process!

Are the wheel treads rubber or metal?
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: zavod44 on October 06, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
Nice score, I believe that's the third one we know of like that.  I believe all the carts were white. I don't believe the grill is the original grill.  It looks to be installed from a regular grill.  Even having the cart is cool. Gummy why do you think the wheels are metal, I think they all had rubber wheels....Mine are white rubber....

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Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: pbe gummi bear on October 06, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
Nice score, I believe that's the third one we know of like that.  I believe all the carts were white. I don't believe the grill is the original grill.  It looks to be installed from a regular grill.  Even having the cart is cool. Gummy why do you think the wheels are metal, I think they all had rubber wheels....Mine are white rubber....

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I thought they could have been iron as well. Just a random q
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: zavod44 on October 07, 2013, 04:35:36 AM
I thought you had some inside info....

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Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on October 07, 2013, 06:55:09 AM
Thanks for the input.  Yes, it is only paint, so I think I will go with a satin black, and replace the front wheels with black rubber wheels, and dye the rear rubber tires black also.   I will document it, and intend to save the wheels in the event it goes back to white one day.

I had to warm the rear wheels in an oven for an hours, and the rubber tires then slipped right off the rim.   

I will likely slice them and use construction adhesive to re-attach. 

 Sandblasting is in the near future.!

BTW, I purchased the cart without a Kettle.  I now use a chain 'hammock' to suspend a kettle in it.   it works pretty well!
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Heyjude on October 07, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
Could you not have a black cart with white wheels? Why would you need to cut the old ones to reattach? Personally, I like the original look of these carts.
But its your grill and you should do what you like.  8)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Jeff on October 08, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
This is a vintage Weber cart that is really rare...you should keep it original. 
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: G$ on October 08, 2013, 08:11:30 PM
I hope you go with white.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: pbe gummi bear on October 08, 2013, 08:26:22 PM
Hey Beef, I hope you can save the white rubber. If you choose to paint it black, that's cool but maybe you could find new treads to preserve the stock rubber. as Jeff said, it's quite rare and it would be a shame to do irreversible things to it.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on October 09, 2013, 07:09:30 PM
Thanks everyone for being cordial and tactful, as you weighed in here.

I will go with White.  Anybody want to throw out WHAT white?  Bone?  Eggshell?  Seriously.

Yes, dying the rubber tires would be irreversible, and a poor idea.

I guess I didnt realize how rare this cart truly is.  When I looked at google images, only two or three pictures came up, and one of them was mine  :-O

I get it now 8)    I have seen the error of my thinking . . .
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: pbe gummi bear on October 09, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Thanks everyone for being cordial and tactful, as you weighed in here.

I will go with White.  Anybody want to throw out WHAT white?  Bone?  Eggshell?  Seriously.

Yes, dying the rubber tires would be irreversible, and a poor idea.

I guess I didnt realize how rare this cart truly is.  When I looked at google images, only two or three pictures came up, and one of them was mine  :-O

I get it now 8)    I have seen the error of my thinking . . .

That's great, Beef. Now you got us even more excited. My vote is for BMW Alpine White!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vQIfL5M3SSc/S6HpEwYO2ZI/AAAAAAAAA_0/AnFcunX9RoM/s1600/_MG_0568resized.jpg)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on October 09, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
Thanks Gummi.  I will mention BMW Alpine White to the lady at the powder coating place, and watch her eyes roll!

Gloss or Satin?  Everyone is welcome to weigh in on this thing.  I want it to be as close to original as possible. 

I live an hour or so north of where Weber is located, which may explain why I found the cart.  I am guessing they didnt sell many in 67 and probably most were local distribution.  just my hunch.

Kevin
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: pbe gummi bear on October 09, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
I don't know what's original so I can't help you there. Where are you located? I grew up in Mundelein. I used to use J&J in Zion for powder coating car parts. They were pretty good imo.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on October 09, 2013, 07:43:15 PM

I live north of Milwaukee, Wi.  I cant give details for obiviouseville reasons   8)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Duke on October 09, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
I can't wait to see the finished cart Kevin. I like the picture in you avatar as well. Please show us a little more of that Big Boy.  :D
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Heyjude on October 09, 2013, 08:01:09 PM
I'm pretty sure there is only one white  8)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Hogsy on October 09, 2013, 09:41:35 PM
I'd be going satin,as far as which white I'd use white white :)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Jocool on October 10, 2013, 12:34:35 AM
I'd airbrush some dragons down the side and add a ground effects kit.

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Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Jeff on October 10, 2013, 03:47:06 AM
Brian has that same cart as yours.  He should check the finish on his.  I bet its at least a semi gloss, maybe gloss.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: zavod44 on October 10, 2013, 04:13:42 AM
I'll see if I can find someplace that had the original finish.  It's 45 years old at this point, not sure how much of the original luster is left?  I'm willing to bet alpine white is metallic, thus not original.  Wouldn't powder coating this be expensive? 

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Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: pbe gummi bear on October 10, 2013, 07:09:00 AM
I'll see if I can find someplace that had the original finish.  It's 45 years old at this point, not sure how much of the original luster is left?  I'm willing to bet alpine white is metallic, thus not original.  Wouldn't powder coating this be expensive? 

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Alpine white is non metallic but I digress.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: zavod44 on October 10, 2013, 07:25:16 AM
Interesting, I'm surprised...

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Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Golly on October 10, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
appliance white to match the wifes toys (washer/dryer) :P
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: dazzo on October 10, 2013, 07:24:22 PM
Thanks Gummi.  I will mention BMW Alpine White to the lady at the powder coating place, and watch her eyes roll!


Maybe these guys can paint it for you...

(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b505/dazzo16/posts/random/image_zps916a4c55.jpg)

As seem on an Alpine White BMW.  ;D




Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: GC8 on October 10, 2013, 08:04:25 PM
Thanks everyone for being cordial and tactful, as you weighed in here.

I will go with White.  Anybody want to throw out WHAT white?  Bone?  Eggshell?  Seriously.

Yes, dying the rubber tires would be irreversible, and a poor idea.

I guess I didnt realize how rare this cart truly is.  When I looked at google images, only two or three pictures came up, and one of them was mine  :-O

I get it now 8)    I have seen the error of my thinking . . .

That's great, Beef. Now you got us even more excited. My vote is for BMW Alpine White!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vQIfL5M3SSc/S6HpEwYO2ZI/AAAAAAAAA_0/AnFcunX9RoM/s1600/_MG_0568resized.jpg)

Well, since we're talking whites...my vote is Subaru Satin White Pearl  8)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/surfmanbry/IMG_2702.jpg)
Title: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Thin Blue Smoke on October 10, 2013, 08:15:13 PM
I vote for some of that fancy white BBQ spray paint from Home Depot!  :)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on November 01, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
Hey guys, just got my Seville back from the powder coater.  a bit more expensive that I was expecting, but it looks great.  I hope to post pics tomorrow when it is light out.   
Stay tuned.

Oh, and it took an hour to sandblast the blasted thing, which made me really overrun my budget. 
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Jeff on November 01, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
Can't wait to see how it turned out beef!
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: MINIgrillin on November 01, 2013, 07:57:50 PM
Can't wait for pics! What did you do with tires?
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Beef on November 03, 2013, 04:54:58 PM

Just  back from the powdercoater.

White looks great! 
Rubber wheels came off easily after heating in the over to 170 degrees.  Now to heat them again and slip them back on.  However MINIgrillin on this forum showed me where I can still buy replacement brandy new tires http://www.djpatio.com/woodard.htm  , and I may do  that after the wife gets over my spending :D

Wheels will get done later this week.




(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q616/ksteers1/IMG01256-20131103-1519_zps87b02abc.jpg)

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q616/ksteers1/IMG01257-20131103-1519_zps4c27c36b.jpg)


Sandblasting cost me about $75
Powdercoating it cost me just over $100.

I am doing this for me, and now I never have to worry about it being out in the wisconsin weather.  Should last for another 45 years.!!

Thanks for looking. 8)
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: tattooedant on November 03, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
looks great!
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: MINIgrillin on November 03, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
That looks friggin awesome. I decided to make mine black.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Jocool on November 03, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
That looks fucking awesome!

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Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: G$ on November 04, 2013, 04:42:52 AM
That is remarkable.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: Jeff on November 05, 2013, 03:23:17 AM
They did beautiful work.  Well worth it!
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: MINIgrillin on November 09, 2013, 12:49:30 PM
action pic?
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: OGlenn on November 09, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
That's one beautiful piece of furniture!  With the white tires, she is going to look even sweeter!  Well worth the $.
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: gunner on November 09, 2013, 04:34:32 PM
HOLY
S**T!!!
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: MINIgrillin on November 10, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
bump for awesome!
Title: Re: Weber Seville Cart help needed
Post by: wyd on November 11, 2013, 07:41:24 AM
That is just plain Weber Kettle Porn right their. ;D