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Title: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on June 27, 2017, 08:30:12 AM
Is there an existing thread with Summit Charcoal Mods? I know, crazy right?

How about a Summit Charcoal Owners / Users thread?

Or can this be the start........muaaaaahahahahahahahahaha-  :o
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: YardBurner on June 27, 2017, 10:52:57 AM
Tips like using a pile of money to start the fir....
Oh, wait.  You don't have any more of that.

Or like my wife says,
"You bought a new grill?
Now what are you gonna use to buy the meat?"
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on June 27, 2017, 01:47:52 PM
Tips like using a pile of money to start the fir....
Oh, wait.  You don't have any more of that.

Or like my wife says,
"You bought a new grill?
Now what are you gonna use to buy the meat?"

Not quite what I had in mind.... but... pretty damn funny! Touche  ;D
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Troy on June 27, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
@SixZeroFour @ramsfan are a couple of summit owners. Have you guys started modding or identifying tips?

I haven't taken the plunge yet, waiting for them to make it in Red.

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: fedex on June 27, 2017, 03:11:11 PM
Mods? Yes, the $80.00 cover. I did make an elevated grate (18") and I may put a paper towel roller on mine.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Troy on June 27, 2017, 03:15:42 PM
Mods? Yes, the $80.00 cover. I did make an elevated grate (18") and I may put a paper towel roller on mine.

I've always wanted to do one of those 'box of shop towels' dispenser mods
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: YardBurner on June 27, 2017, 06:13:43 PM
Pay me no mind, I'm just a wee bit jealous.

Best thing about spending that much on a charcoal
grill is that it's NOT an effin' EGG.
(Still jealous though) :o

Bet you'll never develop a crack in a Summit!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: SixZeroFour on June 27, 2017, 07:00:45 PM
Nothing major in terms of mods but here is my setup:

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/06/27/summitmods01.jpg)
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/06/27/summitmods02.jpg)

I've added a second tool hook, the "Grill Out Handle Light", My trusty old chain and Weber bottle opener (from the pearl! 8) ) and the Thermoworks Smoke.

Also got rid of the not so robust regulator and plumbed it to a 5lb tank that rides along on the triangle. Some might recognize this same fix from Weber Q-Series grills running a full sized tank... works like a charm.
 
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/06/27/summitmods03.jpg)

I would also like to nominate the Weber Charcoal Rake and Napoleon Stainless Steel Grid Scraper as two MUST HAVE accessories to go along with the SCG. Each is worth its weight in gold. 
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: MrHoss on June 27, 2017, 07:03:47 PM
^^^BADASS. Holy crap.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Troy on June 28, 2017, 12:45:05 AM
^^^BADASS. Holy crap.

Yep, this thread just got real.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: mcgolden on June 28, 2017, 06:00:12 AM
Craycorts...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/05c7cff69f81030bb040b679bbde20b0.jpg)
If that counts as a mod.


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on June 28, 2017, 06:11:00 AM
I've added an extra tool rack and Performer timer. Converted to full size propane tank and CI grates. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/a1c2b6cbc207cfd6ae06330ba7e80f67.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/d20dbb5523361fd90d58094259c68f03.jpg)


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Cellar2ful on June 28, 2017, 11:57:58 AM

I've had one of Jason's lollipops. They are the bomb.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/06/24/DSC03889.md.jpg)
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: dazzo on June 28, 2017, 12:20:38 PM
Wait a minute, @JordanW brought a Performer to the meet-up, but not the Summit!

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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on June 28, 2017, 01:37:52 PM
@dazzo  I had to load up by myself. The Performer was all I could handle... Next year! Or better yet, next time!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: CharliefromLI on June 28, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
Just ordered my summit yesterday and this thread magically starts the same day [emoji848]

Very interesting [emoji12]


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: vader06 on June 29, 2017, 03:06:27 AM
The Summit is a very nice grill but it is out of my league for the time being.  I remember spending $600 on my gasser 13 years ago and I thought that was a lot of money back then and still do. 


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Mkrause on June 29, 2017, 05:40:29 AM
I've added an extra tool rack and Performer timer. Converted to full size propane tank and CI grates. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/a1c2b6cbc207cfd6ae06330ba7e80f67.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/d20dbb5523361fd90d58094259c68f03.jpg)


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Is there i thread about whatever you're cooking there? I'm drooling over here.

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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Josh G on June 29, 2017, 06:27:26 AM
@JordanW   We are going to need a recipe for those pops!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: CharliefromLI on June 30, 2017, 03:42:27 AM
Is it bad I've only had mine for 36 hours and I've already got the mod itch???

I am
Thinking I need to come up with some tool storage/organization options as this is a common problem for me. Every time I cook my patio looks like a tornado hit Sanford and son.

The Summit has a ton of storage space, I will have to do some measurements.


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on June 30, 2017, 06:56:50 AM
@Mkrause  @Josh G    http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/bbq-food-pics/lollipops-and-poppers/

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Josh G on July 01, 2017, 05:14:47 AM
Thanks Jordan!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: shizogriller on October 05, 2017, 07:22:49 AM
Nobody bothers the gas ignition when putting charcoal on the highest level?  If I do, I use a chimney starter.  A mod would be better... ;-)  Another thing that worries me are the scratched surface where the charcoal bin is placed.  I am looking for some king of foil to protect it from getting scratched.

@JordanW: where did you buy your digital performer timer?  Or did you already have it before buying the SCG?
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: CharliefromLI on October 05, 2017, 07:37:26 AM

Nobody bothers the gas ignition when putting charcoal on the highest level?  If I do, I use a chimney starter.  A mod would be better... ;-)  Another thing that worries me are the scratched surface where the charcoal bin is placed.  I am looking for some king of foil to protect it from getting scratched.

@JordanW: where did you buy your digital performer timer?  Or did you already have it before buying the SCG?

The upper position for using gas assist does lose some effectiveness IMO. One solution I saw was some people getting a second coal grate and keeping one in the low position at all times and using the higher one as needed. Using this you would light your coals on the lower grate and once lit, place the higher grate in place and dump coals. YMMV.
Personally if Im cooking “up top” I’m using lump in the baskets which lights a bit quicker so I will use the GA burner and a stick torch: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/91d7f2e511c0809130634f4d2128867a.jpg)

The combo has lump going in a few minutes. I even use a fan to stoke the coals if I’m doing a quick week night cook after work.

As for the bin scratches. Grab some felt furniture pads that prevent floor scratches. That should help if it’s an issue for you.


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on October 05, 2017, 07:43:09 AM
 @shizogriller I had one extra from a Performer that I used to own.

Also, I very RARELY use the upper charcoal grate position... The gas assist really doesn't work when you do. IMO
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: shizogriller on October 05, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
@CharliefromLI yesterday evening I searched online for a solution for the bin scratches.  I found that scratchproof wrapping foil could be the solution to get rid of the scratches.  It is normally used to wrap cars or car parts.  It is weather proof and can be found in different colours (matte black, glossy black, red, ...).  It must be applied using a heat gun and can be removed without leaving glue marks.  I will probably order some and try it out.  If I do so, I will keep this topic informed about my progress. 

@JordanW currently I am using a red Thermoworks Timestick that currently suits my needs, it is a perfect device apart from the fact that the key presses do not always work flawlessly.  I probably won't by the weber timer, but nevertheless - for those interested - I found the digital performer timer (article ref 65055) and its housing (article ref. 85682) online at ereplacementparts.com. 

Btw, the current mods on my SCGC are:
- a 2nd weber style tool holder
- the black grill handle light (type 7516, similar to the grey ones on my s670)
- red wheel covers
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: cumminfourya on October 06, 2017, 05:47:42 AM
Oh know we need to see the red wheel covers @shizogriller
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: shizogriller on October 06, 2017, 05:51:11 AM
see below...  I'm very happy with my pimped rims...  ;)

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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on October 06, 2017, 06:17:52 AM
Swanky!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: shizogriller on October 06, 2017, 06:48:39 AM
for those interested: the wheel inserts are a part of the newer 47cm / 18.5" kettle plus they have released here in Europe (part nb 66789 - wheel kit insert, 8", red).  I do not know whether this model is also being sold in the US.  It is a simple matter of plug-and-play to install these...  I ordered the 'rims' via Weber itself and had to wait almost 3 months to receive them.  So probably these are being produced in the US.  IMO it definitely was worth the 'upgrade'!
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Josh G on October 06, 2017, 07:25:30 AM
How is the lid with the cables on your thermometer?  I saw Matt running his smoke inside.  No crimping? @SixZeroFour
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 06, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
@Josh G Totally fine - the lid gasket just seals over it like a pillow [emoji106]
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: cumminfourya on October 06, 2017, 09:23:29 AM
I really like the red wheels. Gonna have to figure something out for mine. Maybe plasti dip?


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on October 06, 2017, 09:57:18 AM
No 18.5" Euro Kettle model here, but someone wanting to duplicate the wheel's look might be able to do so by using paint intended for plastic.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 06, 2017, 11:51:12 AM
(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2017/09/04/NPS01.md.jpg) (http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/image/WOu)

I forgot to post this one up here!... more an accessory than a mod, but its an awesome pizza rig!

More details here:
The quest for a Summit Charcoal Pizza Oven (http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-grill-modifications-customs/the-quest-for-a-summit-charcoal-pizza-oven-(loads-of-pics)/msg324892)
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on October 06, 2017, 11:59:55 AM
I'm waiting to see who is going to be the first person to take a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center and remove the kettle from the ring support assembly and drop in a standard Weber 26.75 bowl and lid creating the worlds first true Weber 26.75 Performer? This is the ultimate mod that everyone (especially me) is waiting to see.

I absolutely guarantee someone is going to do this eventually, just a question of who will be there first?
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 06, 2017, 12:30:54 PM
@ramsfan The 26.75'" would likely hang in the ring, but I think the cost of the cart would be the biggest issue to tackle in a 26r performer build. An Aristocrat Performer would be pretty badass thou! 8)
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on October 06, 2017, 07:31:37 PM
@ramsfan The 26.75'" would likely hang in the ring, but I think the cost of the cart would be the biggest issue to tackle in a 26r performer build. An Aristocrat Performer would be pretty badass thou! 8)

Yes, I believe you are correct. The most likely scenario I see is someone who owns both of these pieces already and decides to do a little experimenting. The caveat being that a hole would need to be drilled into the bowl of the 26er to make way for the burner tube.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: CharliefromLI on October 07, 2017, 03:00:11 AM

I'm waiting to see who is going to be the first person to take a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center and remove the kettle from the ring support assembly and drop in a standard Weber 26.75 bowl and lid creating the worlds first true Weber 26.75 Performer? This is the ultimate mod that everyone (especially me) is waiting to see.

I absolutely guarantee someone is going to do this eventually, just a question of who will be there first?

That would be like dropping a big block into a tesla. The big block is awesome, but by Tesla is a different beast based on engineering.

Removing the insulated bowl and cooker  from the Summit completely nullifies what make its unique. You can have a very similar cart custom fabricated for your 26” for less money then the Summit.


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on October 07, 2017, 03:23:27 PM

I'm waiting to see who is going to be the first person to take a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center and remove the kettle from the ring support assembly and drop in a standard Weber 26.75 bowl and lid creating the worlds first true Weber 26.75 Performer? This is the ultimate mod that everyone (especially me) is waiting to see.

I absolutely guarantee someone is going to do this eventually, just a question of who will be there first?

That would be like dropping a big block into a tesla. The big block is awesome, but by Tesla is a different beast based on engineering.

Removing the insulated bowl and cooker  from the Summit completely nullifies what make its unique. You can have a very similar cart custom fabricated for your 26” for less money then the Summit.


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Trust me, money ain't got nothing to do with it. I have seen thousands spent on a single grill in this place. Somebody will eventually create this mod. Probably in a few years when old SCGC's are popping up on CL for less than $500? There is absolutely nothing "unique" or special about a Weber SCGC. It's just another cooker like the hundreds that came before it and the thousands that will come after it.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: CharliefromLI on October 07, 2017, 03:28:00 PM


I'm waiting to see who is going to be the first person to take a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center and remove the kettle from the ring support assembly and drop in a standard Weber 26.75 bowl and lid creating the worlds first true Weber 26.75 Performer? This is the ultimate mod that everyone (especially me) is waiting to see.

I absolutely guarantee someone is going to do this eventually, just a question of who will be there first?

That would be like dropping a big block into a tesla. The big block is awesome, but by Tesla is a different beast based on engineering.

Removing the insulated bowl and cooker  from the Summit completely nullifies what make its unique. You can have a very similar cart custom fabricated for your 26” for less money then the Summit.


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Trust me, money ain't got nothing to do with it. I have seen thousands spent on a single grill in this place. Somebody will eventually create this mod. Probably in a few years when old SCGC's are popping up on CL for less than $500? There is absolutely nothing "unique" or special about a Weber SCGC. It's just another cooker like the hundreds that came before it and the thousands that will come after it.

We shall see.


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on October 07, 2017, 06:06:13 PM
What I keep expecting to see is a mini-Ranch with gas added. Forget about making it a "Performer" with table. The frame necessary to hang some sort of gas valve/ignition is already there in the RK's square tubing, just drill the burner tube's hole and get creative mounting the rest.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: 1ROW on October 08, 2017, 03:11:35 AM

I'm waiting to see who is going to be the first person to take a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center and remove the kettle from the ring support assembly and drop in a standard Weber 26.75 bowl and lid creating the worlds first true Weber 26.75 Performer? This is the ultimate mod that everyone (especially me) is waiting to see.

I absolutely guarantee someone is going to do this eventually, just a question of who will be there first?

That would be like dropping a big block into a tesla. The big block is awesome, but by Tesla is a different beast based on engineering.

Removing the insulated bowl and cooker  from the Summit completely nullifies what make its unique. You can have a very similar cart custom fabricated for your 26” for less money then the Summit.


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Trust me, money ain't got nothing to do with it. I have seen thousands spent on a single grill in this place. Somebody will eventually create this mod. Probably in a few years when old SCGC's are popping up on CL for less than $500? There is absolutely nothing "unique" or special about a Weber SCGC. It's just another cooker like the hundreds that came before it and the thousands that will come after it.

All kettles are unique and special.  :)
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Spen1818 on November 18, 2017, 06:45:59 AM

What I keep expecting to see is a mini-Ranch with gas added. Forget about making it a "Performer" with table. The frame necessary to hang some sort of gas valve/ignition is already there in the RK's square tubing, just drill the burner tube's hole and get creative mounting the rest.

I have a mini ranch 26....but I had a gas assist performer and barely used the ignition.  Weber cubes are cheap and easy


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Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: fedex on November 18, 2017, 09:11:31 AM

Trust me, money ain't got nothing to do with it. I have seen thousands spent on a single grill in this place. Somebody will eventually create this mod. Probably in a few years when old SCGC's are popping up on CL for less than $500? There is absolutely nothing "unique" or special about a Weber SCGC. It's just another cooker like the hundreds that came before it and the thousands that will come after it.
[/quote]

Wrong.

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on November 23, 2017, 11:47:33 AM
Newest SCGC club member here....

As far as mods go, all I have done is to add twin Weber grill lights and the CyberQ Cloud that was on my WSM. I really want that stainless stacker rack and already have a couple of the Weber Stainless rib racks from my WSM/kettle. I have to be honest, it really does not need many mods. It is a fairly complete solution as-is, which is one of the reasons to pony up for it in the first place. No need to have a kettle+wsm and no need to add upgrades like a hinge, door, or a SnS. All that adds up.

At first, i wanted to upgrade the wheels so i left it apart and ran over to the hardware store looking for something that would be an upgrade. Nothing worthwhile found so i kept the stock wheels. The stock wheels, BTW, are fine because they are dual density and are held on by better clips. The "rim" portion of the wheel seems to be a lightweight, sturdy plastic while the "tire" portion of the wheel seems to be a heavier rubber or other poly. The axle shaft also has small holes in it and uses cotter pins rather than those smash on retainer rings on other models. Bottom line is it would be hard to find a wheel that is an actual "upgrade' or makes it more "serviceable." Going to pneumatic tires might make for smoother transportation of the grill but i think it would at the same time make the stationary grill less stable when cooking.

I prefer the stainless OEM grates to any cast iron upgrade or those aluminum fin thingies. That said, i could even see a straight up stainless grate (sans the GBS center) as a livable option/upgrade to the stock cooking grate).

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on December 17, 2017, 01:03:11 PM
As the newest SCGC owner, i would like to report in with my current mods.

1) GasOne GS-3900P. This is a dual fuel (butane/propane) portable stove. It comes with a black carrying case and I keep it just behind the charcoal bucket. I got this to keep sauces warm and to make port wine reductions for steaks or just garlic and/or onions that have been sauteed in butter.  Totally wish there was one built into the SS counter top.

2) Twin Weber 7516 LED lights. Instead of doing one light in the middle of the handle, I wend with dual. I grab the handle in the middle anyway and the dual illumination (not to mention multi-angle) is great. One issue seems to be to get them to shut off correctly with their level sensors. With the curved angle of the handle, the lights are at a little different angle when the lid is open as compared to a horizontal bar on a gas grill.

3) I just solved an interesting issue today. Mr. Justin Maniac (AKA BabyBackManiac) mentioned a "flippy flippy" issue with Kamado style grills and lumped in the Weber Summit Charcoal in his Kamado Joe Big Joe New Features video. He did not mention this in any of his Weber-specific videos that I can remember seeing. Anyway, I came up with a solution to the problem. I did not think it was a huge issue in the first place but I was able to solve it as follows (video to follow on my channel in support of this).

First, I removed the e-clip and pin that holds the stainless adjusting wheel to the chrome plated base plate. Be VERY careful not to loose that little e-clip unless you have a replacement at hand but even that is no big deal.

Then, while I was at the big orange box taking care of some "honey dos" and "round tuits" I picked up a fifty five cent sack of #6 (0.032") fiber washers. Three in a pack.

Using a single washer, I was able to refit the flip lid to the base, while squishing a fiber washer between the base and the lid. Had to gently tap the other side in place with a long punch and a small hammer. Not for the faint of heart. Tedious. Losing the e-clip is easy to do and sucks but the pin stays in place without it in case you need to do a cook and get a replacement clip later.

4) BBQ Guru CyberQ Cloud with magnetic base/mount.

5) GBS accessories (left over from my Performer)

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on December 17, 2017, 02:45:34 PM

Trust me, money ain't got nothing to do with it. I have seen thousands spent on a single grill in this place. Somebody will eventually create this mod. Probably in a few years when old SCGC's are popping up on CL for less than $500? There is absolutely nothing "unique" or special about a Weber SCGC. It's just another cooker like the hundreds that came before it and the thousands that will come after it.

Wrong.
[/quote]

No, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on December 17, 2017, 03:44:51 PM
I'm waiting to see who is going to be the first person to take a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill Center and remove the kettle from the ring support assembly and drop in a standard Weber 26.75 bowl and lid creating the worlds first true Weber 26.75 Performer? This is the ultimate mod that everyone (especially me) is waiting to see.

I absolutely guarantee someone is going to do this eventually, just a question of who will be there first?

Why would this be a good idea? Is anyone else really waiting to see this? Will you be the first? Inquiring mind wants to know. I'm a performer kinda guy with a Performer Deluxe (gas assist) and a Summit Charcoal Grilling Center. I lusted over the 26 and still do. A 26" Performer would be the bomb. No question. A 26" kettle on a SCGC cart would also be awesome - again no question. The question is, why in the heck would you yank off the insulated kettle with an indirect plate option (as you seem to imply) instead of rescuing the thing? You would be at a net loss on the indirect grilling space and at a loss by going uninsulated. Sounds like a downgrade, even for a 26 lover.  If you can find "cart only" then you've got a good point.  Even if you could find one @$500, why would you downgrade it versus rescue it?
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on December 17, 2017, 04:02:08 PM


Trust me, money ain't got nothing to do with it. I have seen thousands spent on a single grill in this place. Somebody will eventually create this mod. Probably in a few years when old SCGC's are popping up on CL for less than $500? There is absolutely nothing "unique" or special about a Weber SCGC. It's just another cooker like the hundreds that came before it and the thousands that will come after it.

Wrong.
[/quote]
No, I don't think so.

That's okay. A lot of other people thing you are wrong though. I'm one.

I am confident that you'll get your hammered $500 Summit without a warranty one day.You might even be able to piece one together before then with someone else's warranty parts. Might take a while, though, not to mention cost more than $500 for a bunch of defective parts.

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on December 17, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
I don't know why this particular subject seems to get so many people here excited, defensive, and worked up? I'm not saying someone should go out and destroy a perfectly good SCGC just to create a 26 Performer? I certainly wouldn't do that. I wouldn't expect anyone else to do this either.

All I'm saying is that some time in the future, (most likely years from now?) the lid and/or bowl of an SCGC is going to become separated from its cart for whatever reason? (most likely due to damage of some sort after the warranty runs out most likely?). Someone is bound to look at that empty cart missing it's lid and bowl and wonder what could possibly be used to salvage and save this? The only logical answer would be to use a 26 as a cheap substitute? I mean, who would want to go to all the added expense to replace it with another Summit bowl and lid when a 26'er can be had for a fraction of the cost?

The Performer has been around for nearly 28 years now. How many of these have we seen chopped, broken, disassembled, rebuilt, repurposed, reconfigured, etc. through the years? Why is it so impossible to think the same fate couldn't possibly happen to an SCGC years from now? I mean, what makes an SCGC any different from a Performer or any other product that Weber has produced over the years? No difference that I can see? (This was my point in an earlier comment) Eventually, this mod will happen. Someone is bound to try it eventually? It will happen.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on December 18, 2017, 08:07:48 AM
I don't know why this particular subject seems to get so many people here excited, defensive, and worked up? I'm not saying someone should go out and destroy a perfectly good SCGC just to create a 26 Performer? I certainly wouldn't do that. I wouldn't expect anyone else to do this either.

All I'm saying is that some time in the future, (most likely years from now?) the lid and/or bowl of an SCGC is going to become separated from its cart for whatever reason? (most likely due to damage of some sort after the warranty runs out most likely?). Someone is bound to look at that empty cart missing it's lid and bowl and wonder what could possibly be used to salvage and save this? The only logical answer would be to use a 26 as a cheap substitute? I mean, who would want to go to all the added expense to replace it with another Summit bowl and lid when a 26'er can be had for a fraction of the cost?

The Performer has been around for nearly 28 years now. How many of these have we seen chopped, broken, disassembled, rebuilt, repurposed, reconfigured, etc. through the years? Why is it so impossible to think the same fate couldn't possibly happen to an SCGC years from now? I mean, what makes an SCGC any different from a Performer or any other product that Weber has produced over the years? No difference that I can see? (This was my point in an earlier comment) Eventually, this mod will happen. Someone is bound to try it eventually? It will happen.


I am not worked up but it would seem that you are because you keep talking about how you're going to get one for under $500 and how these grills are nothing special and you won't let it go. This is a thread on modifications to the SCGC and I am hoping to read more about that. The SCGC cart would be an upgrade to a 26 but not the other way around.

And yes, you did say in the quoted text above that you would get one for under $500 and then you suggested pulling the lid and bowl to replace it with a 26. Now you seem to be back tracking.

Yes, you will eventually be able to find just the cart but that is not what you said at first.  The other thing that you do not seem to acknowledge is that there will always be a ton of Performers out in the wild as compared to SCGCs. Performers that are badly beat or that have unusable or missing bowls and lids do pop up on craigs list and facebook groups from time to time. When the SCGC finally works its way into that used market, they will likely be fewer and farther between. Yes, there will eventually be a cart without the insulated lid or bowl. Between now and then, you can probably do just fine building your own cart for the 26 like others have done.

Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on December 18, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
I don't know why this particular subject seems to get so many people here excited, defensive, and worked up? I'm not saying someone should go out and destroy a perfectly good SCGC just to create a 26 Performer? I certainly wouldn't do that. I wouldn't expect anyone else to do this either.

All I'm saying is that some time in the future, (most likely years from now?) the lid and/or bowl of an SCGC is going to become separated from its cart for whatever reason? (most likely due to damage of some sort after the warranty runs out most likely?). Someone is bound to look at that empty cart missing it's lid and bowl and wonder what could possibly be used to salvage and save this? The only logical answer would be to use a 26 as a cheap substitute? I mean, who would want to go to all the added expense to replace it with another Summit bowl and lid when a 26'er can be had for a fraction of the cost?

The Performer has been around for nearly 28 years now. How many of these have we seen chopped, broken, disassembled, rebuilt, repurposed, reconfigured, etc. through the years? Why is it so impossible to think the same fate couldn't possibly happen to an SCGC years from now? I mean, what makes an SCGC any different from a Performer or any other product that Weber has produced over the years? No difference that I can see? (This was my point in an earlier comment) Eventually, this mod will happen. Someone is bound to try it eventually? It will happen.


I am not worked up but it would seem that you are because you keep talking about how you're going to get one for under $500 and how these grills are nothing special and you won't let it go. This is a thread on modifications to the SCGC and I am hoping to read more about that. The SCGC cart would be an upgrade to a 26 but not the other way around.

And yes, you did say in the quoted text above that you would get one for under $500 and then you suggested pulling the lid and bowl to replace it with a 26. Now you seem to be back tracking.

Yes, you will eventually be able to find just the cart but that is not what you said at first.  The other thing that you do not seem to acknowledge is that there will always be a ton of Performers out in the wild as compared to SCGCs. Performers that are badly beat or that have unusable or missing bowls and lids do pop up on craigs list and facebook groups from time to time. When the SCGC finally works its way into that used market, they will likely be fewer and farther between. Yes, there will eventually be a cart without the insulated lid or bowl. Between now and then, you can probably do just fine building your own cart for the 26 like others have done.

WTF? Is your daytime job being a prosecuting attorney or something? Jesus Christ man! All I said is that someday down the road we will most likely see someone create this mod. It would be cool to see what that looks like. - SIMPLE! All of a sudden this thread is turning into some sort a GOTCHA exercise? I'm just trying to express a simple idea here and suddenly I'm having my words analyzed and taken apart?

I'm sure you understood the basic idea of what I was trying to say. There is no need to expand on it any further. It serves no purpose whatsoever.
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: Josh G on December 18, 2017, 11:55:51 AM
Does the 26 even fit in the cart?  I thought the SCGC was 24".  Or is that inside diameter and outside bowl is equal to the 26er.  If you can find a cart and the bowl and lid are shot I would love to see it continue its life with a 26. 
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: ramsfan on December 18, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
Does the 26 even fit in the cart?  I thought the SCGC was 24".  Or is that inside diameter and outside bowl is equal to the 26er.  If you can find a cart and the bowl and lid are shot I would love to see it continue its life with a 26.

I'm thinking that a 26 bowl would settle down into the round cradle of an SCGC cart probably slightly higher than the bowl of a Summit Kettle due to the larger diameter? The nice benefit of this is that it would allow for the additional room needed for the lid bale, plus the lid bale could be oriented towards the rear or the left side, whichever you prefer? If Weber ever decided to offer a 26.75" Performer, it seems to me they could easily use the same cart platform from an SCGC?
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: JordanW on December 18, 2017, 02:16:54 PM
I created a monster... "Summit Charcoal Mods" title...... thread turned into crap. O well-

What should I change the title too?
Title: Re: Summit Charcoal Mods
Post by: GoAnywhereJeep on December 18, 2017, 03:48:44 PM
I created a monster... "Summit Charcoal Mods" title...... thread turned into crap. O well-

What should I change the title too?

I was hoping for a mod thread here too and was hoping to contribute as well. Not sure what value Mr. ramsfan is trying to bring here but what do I know. Apparently I struck a nerve. Sorry man (Mr. ramsfan). I'm flattered, though, that quoting you qualifies me to be a prosecutor.

OP: Perhaps start a thread in the mods forum? I'll participate and play nicely in the sand box. It would be great to welcome Mr. ramsfan to the thread as soon as he gets his $300 SCGC or $200 26GC.