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Title: Can someone please identify this grill.
Post by: k.a.m. on August 12, 2015, 02:52:49 PM
A friend of mine found this at a thrift shop and was wondering if it was a kettle and if so how can he date it.
Thank you in advance. :D
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/kamdlm/11796294_1104119496265084_5890362994006097639_n_zpslp36giue.jpg)
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Post by: jimmy_dong on August 12, 2015, 03:04:15 PM
give you $75 and I will send my own label for it. All you have to do is pack it nicely.
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Post by: kendoll on August 12, 2015, 03:09:00 PM
Wow, prepare for plenty of PM's. Hopefully mine is near the top of the queue. :)
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Post by: 1911Ron on August 12, 2015, 03:13:39 PM
I hope your friend picked it up?  If he did a shot of the top vent would be great!  I am going to guess late 50's so we'll see how close i am!  BTW that is a cool Kettle!
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Post by: k.a.m. on August 12, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
I will get with him and see what we can come up with. I am new to this old Kettle stuff but I knew he had found a treasure when I saw it. Thank y'all very much.
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Post by: 1buckie on August 12, 2015, 05:24:39 PM
A friend of mine found this at a thrift shop and was wondering if it was a kettle and if so how can he date it.
Thank you in advance. :D
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/kamdlm/11796294_1104119496265084_5890362994006097639_n_zpslp36giue.jpg)

KAM !!!!!!


That IS the White Buffalo !!!!!

The handle sideways to the vent & the holes in the top side of the bowl handle indicates very old.....the color is not like anything I've seen.....ever....... 8) :o ;D

It's at least 1961.....look at what it says on the lid vent....Weber Bros. Metal Works, or Wood Dale, Ill. & that will tell more.....also, are the little tabs on the vents square or rounded off on the edges?

@Craig   ~~~> LOOK
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Post by: Shafzilla on August 12, 2015, 05:29:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/43evOSy.jpg)
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Post by: Nate on August 12, 2015, 05:36:42 PM
HOLY SCHNIKIES!!!! 
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Post by: LaTuFu on August 12, 2015, 05:55:13 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MD_jHBXf87I/VDdEcYNa27I/AAAAAAAAAcM/atJfgI37FWc/s1600/i%2Bdon%27t%2Bknow%2Bwhat%2Bwe%27re%2Byelling%2Bat.jpg)
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Post by: k.a.m. on August 12, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
I am working with him to get more info Thanks to everyone.
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Post by: einrej on August 12, 2015, 06:30:50 PM
Wow, Wow!
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Post by: SixZeroFour on August 12, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
Very cool!!! and it looks legit! What a sweet find!! 8)
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Post by: Peaspurple on August 12, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Wow wow wow.
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Post by: MaxBobcat on August 12, 2015, 07:04:40 PM
doesn't really looks like a plainsman...no misting that I can really see.  Would love to see some more pics.

Can see the solid triangle at the bottom...prob a WBMW?  Either way super cool and super rare.
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Post by: MaxBobcat on August 12, 2015, 07:06:54 PM
The Ambassador?!

OP's pic looks more white than a "Yellow Ochre" to me, but who knows...

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/plainsman2_zps5afacd57.png)
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Post by: Troy on August 12, 2015, 07:08:17 PM
looks like a white with black swirls ?

I'd hold on to that one for while , value will go up as Awareness grows

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Post by: tb80 on August 12, 2015, 07:18:18 PM
What an amazing find. 


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Post by: Craig on August 12, 2015, 07:20:52 PM
Whoa! This is a rare bird. The rim of the lid appear yellow ochre to my eyes but the rest of it appears white with black squiggles? Like everyone else I can't wait to see more of it. At the moment I am stumped on which one it is. Has to be 1950s era. That's the find of the day! [emoji41]
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Post by: SixZeroFour on August 12, 2015, 07:37:47 PM
I think it could be one of the original "Customs" - White with black speckle :o
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Post by: MrHoss on August 12, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2100jll.jpg)
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Post by: demosthenes9 on August 12, 2015, 07:47:48 PM
The Ambassador?!

OP's pic looks more white than a "Yellow Ochre" to me, but who knows...

(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/slieberman92/plainsman2_zps5afacd57.png)

Did the Ambassador ever have the triangle pan ?
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Post by: Craig on August 12, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
Let's not forget most of the black customs we have seen the squiggly lines have yellowed over the years... Maybe this is the mirror universe/reverse custom. At any rate, this is a sweet grill!
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Post by: 1buckie on August 13, 2015, 07:00:23 AM
I think it could be one of the original "Customs" - White with black speckle :o

Whoa! This is a rare bird. The rim of the lid appear yellow ochre to my eyes but the rest of it appears white with black squiggles? Like everyone else I can't wait to see more of it. At the moment I am stumped on which one it is. Has to be 1950s era. That's the find of the day! [emoji41]

Let's not forget most of the black customs we have seen the squiggly lines have yellowed over the years... Maybe this is the mirror universe/reverse custom. At any rate, this is a sweet grill!

@Craig   @SixZeroFour

If it is, in fact, a "Custom", with squggles, it may be the first 22" one ever seen......looks more like scratches in the finish or a lite bit of rash to me.....
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Post by: SixZeroFour on August 13, 2015, 07:06:05 AM
This is an interesting one for sure! At first I thought scratches as well but when you blow up the photo the lines seem so random with no consistency, and they are also spread out evenly over the section of kettle we can see at least. Could be dog hair ;D ;D

And I'm thinking the yellowish section around the rim could just be built up junk from over the years that shows up a lot more on the white?
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Post by: MaxBobcat on August 13, 2015, 07:07:24 AM
If it is, in fact, a "Custom", with squggles, it may be the first 22" one ever seen......looks more like scratches in the finish or a lite bit of rash to me.....

That would be cool if it was a custom.  I can definitely imagine the guy in the old WBMW factory having some fun and making a white custom.

Here's a 22 custom I found on instagram a few months ago...

(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10413902_674788432570450_1850407029_n.jpg)
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Post by: 1buckie on August 13, 2015, 07:15:52 AM
Ahhh, so it would not be the first, but one of a very rare breed !!!
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Post by: SixZeroFour on August 13, 2015, 07:24:49 AM
Hopefully @Idahawk can chime in - but I believe in his interview with the ex-Weber employee the fellow mentioned that they did multiple variations of the custom including both white and yellow swirls.

@MaxBobcat That's a stunning custom! I wonder who it belongs to?
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Post by: Craig on August 13, 2015, 08:37:18 AM

Ahhh, so it would not be the first, but one of a very rare breed !!!

I've also got a picture of a 22 custom traveler on my timeline poster

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/13/b0b5fe5fdaa18c18a35868799d8c32df.jpg)
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Post by: Tommy B on August 13, 2015, 09:12:07 AM
wow what an awesome find! please keep us posted!
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Post by: MacEggs on August 13, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
Can someone please identify this grill

Faded black …. Just sayin' …   :P ;D ;) ;)
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Post by: Matt_T on August 13, 2015, 10:11:53 AM
It's definitely a dinosaur egg - Nailed it
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Post by: ceaves on August 13, 2015, 10:19:32 AM
Picking this up in a few minutes.  Will post pic of exhaust.

Thanks KAM !
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Post by: Uncle JJ on August 13, 2015, 10:51:38 AM
Amazing find!  Can't wait to see more pix!
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Post by: ceaves on August 13, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
There's not a name or anything on any of the dampers.
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Post by: k.a.m. on August 13, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
I am glad you made it aboard ceaves. :D I appreciate all the help from everyone. I can now resume my normal life of just hanging out and posting. :D
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Post by: vader06 on August 13, 2015, 12:37:07 PM
That is sweet!
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Post by: ceaves on August 13, 2015, 01:28:08 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v969pc2fcqvxioc/AAA1VZqSi5RzjJlac5o-RWHRa?dl=0

There's a few pictures.
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Post by: Hogsy on August 13, 2015, 01:43:19 PM
Oh Yeah!!! What a cool old grill..... Thanks for sharing ceaves and k.a.m.
You lucky SOB 😀
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Post by: harris92 on August 13, 2015, 01:52:08 PM

@ceaves

That's a "custom" Custom kettle.... :)
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Post by: ceaves on August 13, 2015, 01:55:04 PM
Double custom?  Sounds expensive.  :)
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Post by: harris92 on August 13, 2015, 02:09:04 PM
 @ceaves

All kidding aside.  Its a version of the Custom Bar B Q Kettle.  Blank lid vent is very cool.    :)
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Post by: kendoll on August 13, 2015, 02:13:14 PM
Very cool indeed!
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Post by: Troy on August 13, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52ce29b8e4b0012d42034c0b/t/5427dea6e4b0e7d92b6f92a0/1411899046743/)
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Post by: mike.stavlund on August 13, 2015, 03:20:32 PM
#ohmydeargoodness
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Post by: dwnthehatch on August 13, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Wow!!!
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Post by: MartyG on August 13, 2015, 03:40:32 PM
Any chance we can find out who owned this and get the story? Would the shop owner know them? Delicate topic though - you don't want to mention value at all. This one is begging for a full pro photo shoot. Gummi - grab your camera and get over there! @ceaves don't discard anything. Don't even touch it yet. This survivor needs to be recorded properly in it's current state before it gets all glammed up.

OK - I'm done now...
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Post by: Troy on August 13, 2015, 03:51:48 PM
Any chance we can find out who owned this and get the story? Would the shop owner know them? Delicate topic though - you don't want to mention value at all. This one is begging for a full pro photo shoot. Gummi - grab your camera and get over there! @ceaves don't discard anything. Don't even touch it yet. This survivor needs to be recorded properly in it's current state before it gets all glammed up.

OK - I'm done now...

THIS

I wouldn't even entertain offers until this thing is documented and publicized.
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Post by: Craig on August 13, 2015, 04:12:48 PM
That's a unique find for sure! This is the second blank lid vent we've seen? (The sky blue 18 being the other). A white custom with black squigglies. The sockets are later than 1956 since the have the familiar "feet" to them as opposed to the early "plain cylinder" shaped welded sockets. The rounded corner utility shelf (after 1956 but before 1961) but with the older red wheels it appears. They changed to white wheels by 1957-58ish. This isn't your run of the mill Chicago or Wood Dale kettle (I can't believe I just said that! [emoji50] ) Like Harris said its a "custom custom" [emoji2] Lets get as many high quality photos of this grill as possible for the gallery. Inside and out. Head to toe. Hopefully we can get some backstory on this one.
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Post by: ceaves on August 14, 2015, 06:53:30 AM
I will try to find out what I can from the person I bought it from.

I'll get my daughters good camera and take lots of pictures of the grill in better lighting.
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Post by: MartyG on August 14, 2015, 08:10:34 AM
Don't forget to photograph the underbelly of the pan/triangle. We need to see how it is attached to the front leg. Try to minimize the background distractions. Here's a suggestion for the types of shots:

Front view from straight on. Position the lid with the vent facing the front leg. Keep the lid seam as horizontal as possible.
Same view of both sides and back.
Top view of lid from directly above. You can set the lid alone on a neutral backdrop or even the lawn.
Bottom view of the bowl from directly above.
Detail shots of the following:
   Grates
   Dampers
   Lid hook
   Wheels
   Triangle pan
   Handles
 Overall beauty shots. Check the gallery to see some good examples. Sunset photos are especially nice and the light at that time of day is great.
Last but not least, take a pic of you with the grill. Always nice to see a happy Weber fan, and Weber itself may post it on their page!

Enjoy! I know we will!
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Post by: GregS on August 14, 2015, 09:50:01 AM
(http://cafrino.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/cashpile.jpg)

is that your inbox yet? 
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Post by: Idahawk on August 15, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
HK talked about this color and called them "experiments". He mentioned one grill that a fellow employee took home so I'm speculating this is another.


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Post by: charred on August 15, 2015, 06:06:46 PM
holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  that is a museum piece.

awesome and congrats.

what town is this? I really wish everyone would put a location under their name!
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Post by: ceaves on August 16, 2015, 11:37:00 AM
I asked the lady I bought it from, she said she had bought it at an auction somewhere so she couldn't help with any history.

I am interested in selling this grill.  I will work on getting more pictures and post them as soon as I can.

I'm in Iowa Park, TX
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Post by: Idahawk on August 16, 2015, 01:36:05 PM

I asked the lady I bought it from, she said she had bought it at an auction somewhere so she couldn't help with any history.

I am interested in selling this grill.  I will work on getting more pictures and post them as soon as I can.

I'm in Iowa Park, TX

Pm sent .....I'm sure I'm in a long line but Im way cooler than any of the other guys.....so pick me :)


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Post by: chefn58 on August 16, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Who has the deepest pockets ladies and gentlemen!!


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Post by: tb80 on August 16, 2015, 04:13:28 PM
I hope that whomever or wherever this ends up, it is preserved. Amazing kettle.


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Post by: Craig on August 16, 2015, 06:47:01 PM
My pockets aren't deep enough but my love is an endless abyss....
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Post by: charred on August 16, 2015, 07:07:46 PM
how about a 97 tracker?  8)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l255/vigbert/Tracker%20at%20Bud%20Kings%20_zpsjak7odw1.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/vigbert/media/Tracker%20at%20Bud%20Kings%20_zpsjak7odw1.jpg.html)
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Post by: SixZeroFour on August 16, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
^^ lol - isn't there a 1 custom per person limit ?? 😉😄👍
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Post by: charred on August 16, 2015, 07:54:42 PM
but this is a custom custom!  ::)
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Post by: ClubChapin on August 16, 2015, 08:50:31 PM
I'd like to see Harris get this.

This could really liven up his collection.  Seems like he's been really striking out latlely.  ;)
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Post by: ceaves on August 18, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
Hey guys.  Just wanted to post on there that the White Kettle has found a new home.

I appreciate all the input and history on this grill.

I'm sure you'll be seeing it down the road soon.

Thought everyone would get a kick out of this screenshot of how I came across the grill.  The new owner has seen it, so I feel it's ok to post it.

(http://www.vinyl-designs.com/imgs/White_Kettle.png)
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Post by: MartyG on August 18, 2015, 03:54:12 PM
I'd like to see Harris get this.

This could really liven up his collection.  Seems like he's been really striking out latlely.  ;)

You mean there's at least two more white customs to be had?  :o
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Post by: ClubChapin on August 18, 2015, 05:53:17 PM
You mean there's at least two more white customs to be had?  :o


Lol.  Exactly.
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Post by: SmokenJoe on August 18, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Fifty plus years in the Texas Sun could effect ANY original color.  Has the same vent placement & dome shape.  But one-piece utility tray, I believe.

Nevertheless, what an incredible 'find' for any WKC member to 'see'.   K.A.M., tell your friend C-O-N-G-R-A-T-U-L-A-T-I-O-N-S from all of the WKC members and thank you for sharing.
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Post by: Uncle JJ on August 19, 2015, 07:26:21 AM
Congrats to the new owner!  Wish it was me.
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Post by: Tommy B on August 21, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Who owns it? Can't believe you paid $10 for it!