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Grill Talk => WSM: Weber Smokey Mountain => Topic started by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 11:31:06 AM

Title: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 11:31:06 AM
This is the inside of my WSM. The spots are greenish mold. It always has a Weber cover on it. Luckily I had the foresight not to store the cook grates in it (an additional problem with my kettles.)

I've got a full chimney's worth of charcoal going full blast in there now. I'll see what happens.


(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/02/01/IMG_6012.jpg)
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 12:22:25 PM
... and it basically had no effect. Maybe another day I'll load up the 18 kettle and put this middle section it for a bit.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: LightningBoldtz on February 01, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
Is that a result of leaving the vents closed up on it?
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: 1911Ron on February 01, 2016, 12:32:21 PM
Interesting, I will be checking back to learn of any new progress.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: firedude5015 on February 01, 2016, 12:42:18 PM
Happened to an old smoker I had. left it under a cover, vents closed for a couple months. I took it to the carwash and washed it with some bleach cleaner and rinsed it real good.
must have killed the mold cause it didn't kill me lol I guess we use our kettles enough to prevent that.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 01:00:50 PM
Is that a result of leaving the vents closed up on it?

Oh, is that what causes it? I close mine up, but I suppose I should be treating them like a "toilet seat," leave it up/open to help prevent it?
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 01:01:38 PM
Happened to an old smoker I had. left it under a cover, vents closed for a couple months. I took it to the carwash and washed it with some bleach cleaner and rinsed it real good.
must have killed the mold cause it didn't kill me lol I guess we use our kettles enough to prevent that.

I'll have to try that, thanks.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: crowderjd on February 01, 2016, 01:10:07 PM
Wow.  I have never seen this.  I took a look on the inside of mine over the weekend (haven't used it in a while) but it looked good.  Do you think it is just from all the moisture in the southeast?
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: LightningBoldtz on February 01, 2016, 01:33:52 PM
Check this article out

http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/mold_in_your_smoker.html
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on February 01, 2016, 02:13:04 PM
I think it would be easiest to just hit it with some easy off, let it sit a bit, then scrap with razor blades.  But since I don't have a WSM I'm not really sure if the weber kettle cleaning technique applies to the mid section of the WSM or not....is that the same porcelain/ceramic as kettles?
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 02:33:48 PM
Yeah Mike it's the same.

Check this article out

http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/mold_in_your_smoker.html

I will, thanks again.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: LightningBoldtz on February 01, 2016, 02:35:39 PM
I think it would be easiest to just hit it with some easy off, let it sit a bit, then scrap with razor blades.  But since I don't have a WSM I'm not really sure if the weber kettle cleaning technique applies to the mid section of the WSM or not....is that the same porcelain/ceramic as kettles?

Referring to Easy-off - I try to avoid that stuff at all costs,  it is extremely bad to you personally and the environment.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 01, 2016, 04:13:48 PM
Hmm, the Amazing Ribs article says don't use a cover unless you have a WSM. Well ... yes, and if I don't cover my machines water gets in. No thanks. So yes I'll use my covers. Also, I like my handles to not age in the sun and rain. And my paint not to fade!

Of course, if I could always store everything inside it wouldn't be a problem. I can get it clean eventually but don't understand yet how to prevent it besides opening vents up (with cover on) and removing the door, IF that'll work.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: WNC on February 01, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
I've had a similar problem with mine. I had it stored under the house where no sun hit it, vents open, no cover, occasional mold.

After having to clean it a couple of times, I started moving it to a spot where it wouldn't get rained on, but did get hit with the afternoon sun. No more mold issues!

We've moved, so it now lives in the basement, vents open, no cover and it's not molded since.

I think having it get some sun and heat up goes a long way in keeping the mold out. I also leave the water pan out to promote more air flow.

When I did have to clean it, I'd scrape off the mold and clean it with whatever household cleaner we use on our counters, and then burn a good fire.
Title: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: kettlecook on February 01, 2016, 05:25:16 PM
Turning the middle section upside down will keep the water out, covered or not. We have a good bit of humidity here in middle TN and I've never had mold with the cover on. As already posted, keep the bottom vents open. One more thing: don't forget about the water pan after a cook.

Regarding your grates, keep em clean but not too clean. If you do keep em too clean then keep some veggie oil on em. Even the best cared for grate will eventually probably rust, especially if you cook with a lot of high heat. So last time my Performer grate rusted I went with the same kind that my big kettle has, STAINLESS. And I'm glad I did since I'm now torching it really good when using my Kettlepizza.


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Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: Harleysmoker on February 01, 2016, 06:09:57 PM
I would take a bleach/water solution and spray the inside of the center section, let in sit for 15 minutes or so, then scrub with a plastic brush. Rinse well and light a hot fire and let it burn out.

I keep mine in the garage with the vents all closed and the cover on it here in Florida. Also the next day after every cook I empty the used charcoal, save it, and take a 4" paint brush and sweep all the ash dust off of the charcoal grate and the inside of the bottom bowl. Charcoal ash draws moisture in the WSM and a kettle. Leave it in there too long, you get rust, mold, ash sweep froze up and an environment for mold. Trust me here in SW Florida mold grows like crazy, steady work pressure cleaning pool decks, sidewalks, drive ways etc. for mold.

2 years, I never have seen any mold in mine.

I heard the Weber covers are not rain proof, to fix that, put a black garbage bag over it, then put the Weber cover over that to prevent rain leaking in
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: MikeRocksTheRed on February 02, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
I think it would be easiest to just hit it with some easy off, let it sit a bit, then scrap with razor blades.  But since I don't have a WSM I'm not really sure if the weber kettle cleaning technique applies to the mid section of the WSM or not....is that the same porcelain/ceramic as kettles?

Referring to Easy-off - I try to avoid that stuff at all costs,  it is extremely bad to you personally and the environment.

Isn't everything!  LOL.  I get it though.  I just figure if it is safe for use in your house (and maybe I need to read the can to see if I still think this) in your oven it can't be that bad.  The Ace Hardware by me actually has a version meant for cleaning grills that I'm thinking might be better for the environment since it would be used almost exclusively outdoors.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: toolhead on February 04, 2016, 04:54:02 PM
@kettlecook  what make /model ss grates did you buy
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: kettlecook on February 04, 2016, 07:10:44 PM

@kettlecook  what make /model ss grates did you buy

I just ordered it from Weber.


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Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: Big Dawg on February 05, 2016, 12:55:01 PM
When this happens to one of mine, I spritz it with a little greased lightning, let that soak in a while and hit with the power washer. 

This is part of my cleaning ritual getting ready for the competition season.





BD
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: SmokenJoe on February 06, 2016, 10:39:56 PM
Eugene knows something about "mold", think it has to do with all the rain.   My WSM 18 is out on the deck w/ the top vent closed and the bottom vents open.  Always has the basic Weber cover on.  Usually dump the ashes as soon as I can and remove the water pan.   Haven't had to deal with mold yet ??                                  SJ
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: kettlecook on February 07, 2016, 03:03:18 PM

Eugene knows something about "mold", think it has to do with all the rain.   My WSM 18 is out on the deck w/ the top vent closed and the bottom vents open.  Always has the basic Weber cover on.  Usually dump the ashes as soon as I can and remove the water pan.   Haven't had to deal with mold yet ??                                  SJ

FYI, unless you've seemed the seals, it's odd if your cover doesn't leak. But as long as your top vent is tight, turning the middle section upside down will do the trick. A buddy of mine keeps his under a covered patio all the time but got mold pretty bad because he forgot about dumping the water pan after a cook. Nasty.


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Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: Metal Mike on February 11, 2016, 05:26:49 AM
Looks like a good excuse to bust out the Lighter Fluid...

Burn lots of Fats/Oil, then use LF burn to "dry" the resulting cresote & just peel it away...
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 11, 2016, 02:26:02 PM
Brief update:

Taking each section and tilting at the ground I poured a little bleach and gave a light scrub with a brush. Seemed to mostly do the trick. I let it dry and then applied lighter fluid, which I couldn't get to light.

I do have access to some cut firewood but no reasonable way to light it, so I assembled the smoker, loaded it up with a huge pile of sacrificial Kingsford and proceeded to pour a whole bunch of the lighter fluid on the charcoal. Figured I might as well use it up since I never "cook" with it anyway. Waited a short while for it to soak in. I probably wasted 10 matches on it ... damn stuff would not light.

BTW I'm using some "alternative" lighter fluid, no petrochemicals. Same price as the regular kind so I thought I'd try it. Maybe it's not as volatle.

Meanwhile, I'm watching one or two coals meekly smoke and then, the POOL of lighter fluid at the bottom of the thing slowly catches. Now I have a decent fire underneath the charcoal --- nice.

I go to retrieve the lid which still has a small pool of lighter fluid in it and put the lid on. Yep, I mostly extinguished the fire by flooding it. Forget all those scary YouTube videos of people pouring lighter fluid on a lit fire ... no such drama here.

Something's happening, don't know if it's helping in any way. It's been smoking like this for 2 hours now.

(http://pics.weberkettleclub.com/images/2016/02/11/IMG_6073.jpg)
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: swamprb on February 11, 2016, 03:11:19 PM
Weed burner

KISS

just sayin'
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on February 11, 2016, 03:28:50 PM
Don't think I haven't been eyeballin' those things.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: Metal Mike on February 24, 2016, 11:36:04 AM
""alternative" lighter fluid"

Rubbing Alcohol ?
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on March 09, 2016, 06:18:03 AM
""alternative" lighter fluid"

Rubbing Alcohol ?

No, it's sold as lighter fluid but it's not petroleum-based. I think this might be it: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Smarter-Starter-Fluid-32-oz-Natural-Charcoal-Lighter-Fluid-SSF32/204509933

"made from agriculturally derived ingredients"

Like maybe cow shit? Worked about as well.
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: Travis on March 16, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
I'm glad I read this post. I went out and check my uds, and had a couple of fuzzies starting in there. I had all the vents closed which I never do m, but it is stored in the garage so I probably did to sit a damn box on top or something like that. Nothing bad like in the picture but I'm running a load of lump through it now wide open, high heat to burn it out. I always smoke a couple butts in April for my daughters birthday so I'm glad I ran across this now and not later. How did yours turn out and what did you do??
Title: Re: As expected, I should've cleaned it yesterday, to use today :(
Post by: addicted-to-smoke on March 17, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
I've since been storing mine with vents open but I do keep the cover on it. Used it 2 days ago after having been covered up for a month and there wasn't anything inside. I did however keep the cover lifted a little, exposing the bowl vents. I know some moisture still gets trapped, there was some between cover and WSM despite not having rained for a week. But I don't want to leave it uncovered.