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Grill Talk => Weber Grill Forum (Grills, Accessories) => Topic started by: ClubChapin on September 23, 2014, 08:24:56 PM

Title: What is this?
Post by: ClubChapin on September 23, 2014, 08:24:56 PM
This came my way last weekend.

I presume it is medium old.  It seems to be from before the date code stamp.  '70's?

Wood Handle lid, Metal handle bowl.

It's not in grate shape (bowl).

I will use it until I get a new to me SS performer to replace it.

I was excited to find it.

I do not have Weberitis.

I do not have Weberitis.

I do not have Weberitis.

Thanks, Pete

Sorry about the low quality of pics.

(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/resized_2014-09-20115236_zps7efc4e3d.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/resized_2014-09-20115252_zps419110aa.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/resized_2014-09-21171258_zps7484f104.jpg)
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/resized_2014-09-21171248_zps8a091c4e.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: 1buckie on September 23, 2014, 08:43:11 PM
Pretty rough on the bottom, but fuzzier rabbits have been pulled out of more rumpled hats..... 8)

If you get a full on good top vent shot, the date can be zeroed in.....might be early - mid 70's............

High heat JB Weld has been used to fix punched thru holes before, but I can't remember exactly who did it?
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: pbe gummi bear on September 23, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
nice score. You can probably get a decent cooker out of it by replacing the bottom vents. With all those leaks it may be hard to get super fine temp control but I bet you'd be able to smoke with it.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: MacEggs on September 24, 2014, 07:08:39 AM
High heat JB Weld has been used to fix punched thru holes before, but I can't remember exactly who did it?

I believe it was @tattooedant in this / these threads. (the first 3 are linked in the following thread)

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/yellow-painted-green-restore-part-4-final/
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: GregS on September 24, 2014, 07:21:51 AM
jeebuz it looks like they used it for target practice with a 22 cal at 100 yards.

"just prop ole' bessie up 'gainst that rock o'er there and let's see what cha got kid."

i kid but dayum. 

great score none the less, bring her back to life she's not dead yet!  it's just going to take some loving. 
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: ClubChapin on October 26, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
jeebuz it looks like they used it for target practice with a 22 cal at 100 yards.

Fortunately, this isn't the case.  She has lived her life on a salt water beach.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: ClubChapin on October 26, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
If you get a full on good top vent shot, the date can be zeroed in.....might be early - mid 70's............

Here's a vent shot.
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/Chapin_Place/Weber/resized_2014-10-25174010_zps4797e6c8.jpg)

Do "PAT. 3538906" and "ARLINGTON HEIGHTS" offer a clue?

Seems like the PAT. and metal bowl handles makes it 1970 - 1981.

Anything else to look at to narrow it down?

Color?  Wheels? etc.?

Thanks, Pete
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 26, 2014, 07:09:44 PM
Good guess Pete, prob around a 77' ;)
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Craig on October 26, 2014, 07:15:47 PM
1978
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: GregS on October 26, 2014, 07:25:54 PM
She has lived her life on a salt water beach.
rub it in now go ahead.   >:(

 ;)
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: ClubChapin on October 28, 2014, 07:33:43 AM
1978

Is this a guess, or are you able to narrow it down that precisely? 

1978 works for me.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: glrasmussen on October 28, 2014, 07:36:19 AM
1978 is when they first went with raised letter vent. 76/77 is etched Weber.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: ClubChapin on October 28, 2014, 07:39:07 AM
Ah ha.

that really narrows it down.  This is then 1978 - 1981?

Thanks, Pete
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: glrasmussen on October 28, 2014, 07:41:00 AM
1978 Pete, 79 and above have a letter stamp 79=A.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: glrasmussen on October 28, 2014, 07:44:15 AM
Here is a great tool to have thanks to @MartyG

http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/weber-kettles-accessories/wkc-vent-guide/msg48470/#msg48470
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: SixZeroFour on October 28, 2014, 07:46:18 AM
I thought I read somewhere that there were also some "crossover" raised letter vents confirmed in 77... ?!? I could also be completely making that up ;) My mind works in strange ways... esp in the am.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: ClubChapin on October 28, 2014, 07:49:15 AM
Very cool, thanks.  We should add this to the Age Guide page.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Craig on October 28, 2014, 08:07:55 AM
1978

Is this a guess, or are you able to narrow it down that precisely? 

1978 works for me.

We are calling it an educated guess. Using the process of elimination. Yes in 1979 the Letter A appeared on the kettles with this exact vent style. I have a Chocolate 22 with this same vent style. No date code.

Breakdown of the estimation:

1974 Kettles still had the BAR-B-Q-KETTLE vent and small bowl tabbed daisy vents and the old style all plastic wheels and thin whitewalls. The series of changes and transitions happened in this order, 1. The daisy vents were changed to the large dual tabs. (Presumably 1975 but not confirmed) 2. The wheels were changed to the modern "WEBER" whitewalls (Possibly in 1976, again not confirmed). 3. The lid vent was changed from BAR-B-Q-KETTLE to the "engraved" or "etched" version of the WEBER logo that has the elongated 'b' to accommodate the vent rivet. This lid vent still has the small turn tab. Presumably 1976 but not confirmed the vent may have changed to engraved in 1977) -There's not an abundance of kettles with this vent style out there. The last change (#4) before adding the date codes was to the lid vent updated to the modern style with the raised WEBER logo, wide turn tab and "MADE IN U.S.A" added below the PAT # 3538906. There have been examples of Lime Green and Yellow kettles with this vent style. Lime and yellow were factually available in 1977.  There are no known dark blue or dark green MBH's with the "engraved" Weber logo or the raised logo with no date code. Those colors were introduced in 1979. Lime and Yellow were gone in 1979. That is how I narrow it down to 1978 or Autumn 1977-Summer 1978 (1978 model year)

Just like the earliest A codes were most likely made in 4th quarter 1978 in time for the '79 catalog. T-79.

EDIT: @dazzo  has helped me to quadrilliontuple check my research.... (see strikethrough's_
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: dazzo on October 28, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
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There are no known dark blue or dark green MBH's with the "engraved" Weber logo or the raised logo with no date code.


You mean like this?...

(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b505/dazzo16/posts/MBH%20Green/image_zps3e38626f.jpg)

(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b505/dazzo16/posts/MBH%20Green/image_zps3ad9a107.jpg)

(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b505/dazzo16/posts/MBH%20Green/image_zpsdb2c967e.jpg)


Based on clues, I always thought this Green was a '78. Just like my original Old Grey (faded black).




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Title: What is this?
Post by: Craig on October 28, 2014, 09:02:21 AM
Whoa! I always thought yours was an A code. I had never seen your vent up close..... I stand corrected @dazzo   :-[ :-[


one more trip back to the drawing board......   :-[

This is the part where @Troy comes in and says... "oh no! @Craig is gonna shit bricks!" or something


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 >:( >:( @Craig
Title: What is this?
Post by: Craig on October 28, 2014, 09:06:52 AM
I can say that we have yet to find an example of an undated blue....... now maybe one will turn up... ::)   :-[  ;D


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