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Ranch Kettle and 1, 2 or 3 Vortex?

Started by Robert, August 11, 2018, 06:50:41 PM

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Robert

Lets say you wanted to cook a bunch (20) of chicken breast on a Ranch Kettle.  If you were to use a Vortex, how many would you use? Let's say you chose to use three, would you put them together in the middle or space the out?  Would two be enough?  Has anyone ever tried this? 

Thanks,

Robert

Jon

I wouldn't Vortex chicken breast. The point of the Vortex is a high heat convection cook that works great for wings and thighs and drums. The window for doneness on breasts is very narrow, so it would be more difficult not to overshoot on the temp. Breasts are better served by a normal two-zone cook.

And who has three Vortexes? (Vortexi?)

Robert

OK then, perhaps not a good idea for breast.  But, work with me here, in theory what do you think would be the ideal set up for a Ranch for cooking chicken parts or Cornish hen halves etc?  I do have access to three Vortex between myself and two sons.  I haven't tried the layout myself yet just to judge by space.  Just trying to tap into the collective brain trust here.

Thanks,

Robert

Lemans

So the idea of a vortex is to create a stream of heat that emanates from the top it hits the dome of the lid and then falls down around the sides  as radiant heat.. where is the vent on a ranch? Directly on top. So one vortex in the center would not work. Multiple vortex's would get the grill so hot it would be impossible to control the temperature.  Just use a snake around the Kettle and the meat in the center. Depending how thick and how high it is was determine temp. Been there done that


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Quote from: Jon on August 11, 2018, 11:08:05 PM
I wouldn't Vortex chicken breast. The point of the Vortex is a high heat convection cook that works great for wings and thighs and drums. The window for doneness on breasts is very narrow, so it would be more difficult not to overshoot on the temp. Breasts are better served by a normal two-zone cook.

And who has three Vortexes? (Vortexi?)

Vortex works fine on breasts that have been brined...On a 22 incher anyway...
I got nothing on a ranch...But it seems to me that three V's spaced around the grill would work...Just probably don't fill em full up...

Robert

Quote from: SMOKE FREAK on August 14, 2018, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Jon on August 11, 2018, 11:08:05 PM
I wouldn't Vortex chicken breast. The point of the Vortex is a high heat convection cook that works great for wings and thighs and drums. The window for doneness on breasts is very narrow, so it would be more difficult not to overshoot on the temp. Breasts are better served by a normal two-zone cook.

And who has three Vortexes? (Vortexi?)

Vortex works fine on breasts that have been brined...On a 22 incher anyway...
I got nothing on a ranch...But it seems to me that three V's spaced around the grill would work...Just probably don't fill em full up...

I know that I can get 8 whole boneless, skin on breast on a 26 inch grate as I compete in KCBS competitions using an 85 gallon barrel for chicken.  We do brine them and cook at 275.  Takes about 45-50 minutes to hit 160 degrees.  I have two barrels so could cook 16 at one time, but need to cook 20.  But I have the Ranch calling my name saying "psst, hey buddy over here". 

Thanks,

Robert

MikeRocksTheRed

I'd say two should give you the temp you need.  I'd personally just bank the coals on one side.   


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Quote from: Robert on August 15, 2018, 03:22:38 AM
Quote from: SMOKE FREAK on August 14, 2018, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Jon on August 11, 2018, 11:08:05 PM
I wouldn't Vortex chicken breast. The point of the Vortex is a high heat convection cook that works great for wings and thighs and drums. The window for doneness on breasts is very narrow, so it would be more difficult not to overshoot on the temp. Breasts are better served by a normal two-zone cook.

And who has three Vortexes? (Vortexi?)

Vortex works fine on breasts that have been brined...On a 22 incher anyway...
I got nothing on a ranch...But it seems to me that three V's spaced around the grill would work...Just probably don't fill em full up...

I know that I can get 8 whole boneless, skin on breast on a 26 inch grate as I compete in KCBS competitions using an 85 gallon barrel for chicken.  We do brine them and cook at 275.  Takes about 45-50 minutes to hit 160 degrees.  I have two barrels so could cook 16 at one time, but need to cook 20.  But I have the Ranch calling my name saying "psst, hey buddy over here". 

Thanks,

Robert

Just did my first KCBS a few weeks ago and did two butts and my brisket on my RK using the Slow n Sear Ranch Kettle Edition.  I could have definitely fit a third butt.  A lot of the people in the comp came by to eyeball my RK up close.  You see a WSM at comps on a regular basis but not Ranch Kettles!   





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Jon

After thinking a bit, instead of devices, just lay out a couple chimneys of charcoal one briquette deep on one side. Place the chicken at the appropriate temp away from the coals. The charcoal isn't hottest in a Vortex - it's hottest old style, just laid out on the charcoal grate because of the air flow.

I would do a test cook. Breasts are way different from wings on the Vortex.

And an aside - Mike, you rule. Nice work there.