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Started by LiquidOcelot, November 04, 2017, 10:09:26 PM

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MDurso

Heh... yeah, that's right.  Jay did the Wok thing and all that. 

The original WSM, and a feature I maintained, was the ability to move the charcoal grate up to the lower cook grate position and then grill on the upper grate.  It was in the original manual from the Erich Schlosser release and they felt it was important to have that on the 14/18/22 when I designed, updated them.  If they changed it since 2008, well possibly.

I have grilled on a 14 and 18 WSM with favorable results.  I mean after all, it is just heat.

As for the specifics and someone looking for a magic number (5" away with such and such charcoal with the sun at 18degrees during a full moon) well.. Have at it.

Thank you for the clarification A-T-S!  I appreciate it.
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nolch01

I remember seeing a post on this site for one of the original WSM instruction manuals showing different cooking set ups.   I cannot find the thread.

Direct grilling was one of the set up options along with steaming.


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nolch01

Found it.  I wonder if these set ups work in the current versions of the WSM?

1981 WSM cookbook http://weberkettleclub.com/forums/index.php?topic=32855


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HoosierKettle

My apologies for knocking a creative mod. I just couldn't wrap my head around trying to find a way not to use a kettle.


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LiquidOcelot

Quote from: HoosierKettle on November 07, 2017, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: LiquidOcelot on November 06, 2017, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on November 05, 2017, 11:46:11 AM
If he's happy, that's great. I think it's ridiculous. A kettle is inexpensive. I would have bought a brand new kettle rather than buy all that gadgetry and been money ahead.


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I watched a few of his videos and was like damn he has close to 700 or so invested into this. He may be an old retired guy who has money and is bored out of his mind

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of being able to grill on the wsm and the ability to use grilling accessories, but I don't see it as a practical solution or money saving solution. Let's examine. Ash removal and clean up would be more difficult, if you have room for a 22 wsm and own one you probably already have a kettle, the sns was designed to turn a kettle into a smoker (wrap your head around that for a second ), a nice one touch black kettle can be had for $20, I doubt very seriously it will perform as well as a kettle and you would be heating the large body of a wsm in an uneven way which may be bad in the long run, a wsm does not perform well in the rain as it's design funnels water to the inside. A kettle can be used in the rain without issue. A kettle will perform better in cold weather as there is less metal to heat up, I could go on and on and on but this mod does not replace a kettle imo.


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Agreed. I think he likes it more as a hot and fast setup with direct heat. But yea there's way to much surface area to get hot in order to do any normal kettle style cooking. Unless he took the mid section off and used it as a quick grill that way. All of his idea were pretty cool but would never do personally cuz , well, we all have an abundance of different cookers ha ha . I'd rather spend the few bucks on a Cajun bandit stacker and turn a kettle into a "WSM" than the other way around

HoosierKettle


Quote from: LiquidOcelot on November 07, 2017, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on November 07, 2017, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: LiquidOcelot on November 06, 2017, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: HoosierKettle on November 05, 2017, 11:46:11 AM
If he's happy, that's great. I think it's ridiculous. A kettle is inexpensive. I would have bought a brand new kettle rather than buy all that gadgetry and been money ahead.


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I watched a few of his videos and was like damn he has close to 700 or so invested into this. He may be an old retired guy who has money and is bored out of his mind

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of being able to grill on the wsm and the ability to use grilling accessories, but I don't see it as a practical solution or money saving solution. Let's examine. Ash removal and clean up would be more difficult, if you have room for a 22 wsm and own one you probably already have a kettle, the sns was designed to turn a kettle into a smoker (wrap your head around that for a second ), a nice one touch black kettle can be had for $20, I doubt very seriously it will perform as well as a kettle and you would be heating the large body of a wsm in an uneven way which may be bad in the long run, a wsm does not perform well in the rain as it's design funnels water to the inside. A kettle can be used in the rain without issue. A kettle will perform better in cold weather as there is less metal to heat up, I could go on and on and on but this mod does not replace a kettle imo.


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Agreed. I think he likes it more as a hot and fast setup with direct heat. But yea there's way to much surface area to get hot in order to do any normal kettle style cooking. Unless he took the mid section off and used it as a quick grill that way. All of his idea were pretty cool but would never do personally cuz , well, we all have an abundance of different cookers ha ha . I'd rather spend the few bucks on a Cajun bandit stacker and turn a kettle into a "WSM" than the other way around

Do you have a rotisserie?  I've considered modifying it to become a stacker but haven't done it yet.


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HoosierKettle

If I could only own one, it would be a 26 kettle.


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JEBIV

Quote from: HoosierKettle on November 07, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
If I could only own one, it would be a 26 kettle.


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Me too, I have 3
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Bubblehead

"I'd rather spend the few bucks on a Cajun bandit stacker and turn a kettle into a "WSM" than the other way around"

^^
THIS!!!  All day Long...

Big Dawg

Quote from: addicted-to-smoke on November 05, 2017, 08:04:35 AM

And that's assuming the performance is the same as a kettle's, which isn't a given, because lid heights would be different. I'd probably have to spend that $7 on the "charcoal" grate a few times over, each summer.


Quote from: Big Dawg on November 05, 2017, 12:10:19 PM
If wasn't in the middle of this I'd check the size of the charcoal grate on the 26er.  I looks like it'd be pretty close.


Just to follow up, the charcoal grate on my 26er is 21¾".  So you might be able to squeeze it in there, but it would be a tight fit.





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Shoestringshop

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JEBIV

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Bubblehead

I've seen that double kettle on another forum.  I likes.

Shoestringshop

Quote from: Bubblehead on November 11, 2017, 04:04:11 AM
I've seen that double kettle on another forum.  I likes.

I've seen it in back yard👍 Ever since I finished it.
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